At what precise moment did Game of Thrones become unsalvageable?
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season 1
Season 5 around the time they introduced the Sparrows and killed Barristan since those are some of the first instances of original content and everything not directly adapted from the books turned out to be shit
Nvm I looked it up and the Sparrows were in the books, it's been literally a decade since I read them so I forgot. Killing Ser Barristan is definitely the first major thing I remember that didn't happen in the books.
He is almost certainly going to die in the books too though
No he won't.
Because the books won't be finished.
TWOW probably will and that’s likely when he’ll die
Probably the Red Wedding. Apparently this was the motive for D&D creating the series in the first place, but their execution of it was utter shit.
>Cat, Edmure, and Blackfish all at the Twins
Who the frick's ruling Riverrun?
>Robb takes Talisa to the wedding
Way to further insult the lord that you betrayed
>"The Lannisters send their regards"
Why not Jaime? Why change this line needlessly?
>No Greatjon, no Smalljon, no Dacey Mormont
So, basically just a bunch of redshirts get killed in the background that I don't care about
>All the cartoony drive-by throat cuts
>Why not Jaime? Why change this line needlessly?
Because Jaime is le good guy now and this line would've confused the dumbfrick normalgay audience
>Because Jaime is le good guy now
Also Jaime: "To be honest I've never really cared much for them, innocent or otherwise"
Said the man who sacrificed his entire honor and reputation to save the commonfolk.
But there is an earlier scene btw Jaime and Roose Bolton where he speaks this same line.
It never was unsalvageable, the cast was too good for that. It was sabotaged.
>the cast was too good for that
They killed off the characters of all the best actors and were left with the worst actors for the finale.
Worst actor in GoT would be the best actor in most other shows.
Who is the worst actor in GoT?
I don't even know, I suppose maybe the bad poosi chick, but even that was mostly because of lazy writing.
Shae.
Emilia Clarke
Die
Pedro Pascal and Jacob Anderson. I just hate Pascal for no particular reason but Anderson is seriously terrible, I cant take him serious at all.
And yet they were never cast in any other show...
i would say late s3 is when i started to see major signs of quality drop
1~4: already plenty of bad choices that will slowly erode the story, good performances and the novelty factor cloud most people's judgement
5-6: anybody who might still have an ounce of brainpower will realize there's no saving the show
7: only the densest of morons get to the end of this season and think they aren't in for a colossal shitshow
8: this is the deepest darkest point, where people who could sniff coal and sneeze diamonds have the audacity to be blindsided by everything completely falling apart and start mocking the people who still enjoy the ride
As for those who enjoyed even the finale, they have my blessing. I could never respect their opinion on media, but I'm happy for them.
>it was always bad ACKSHUALLY
Why do channels always say this?
It had been dropping in quality for a while but the Jaime/Bronn vs Sand Snakes fight was where it tipped over into the kind of bad that erases the audience's accumulated goodwill
Not making Tyrion a villain and botching the Dorne arc
>Cersei blows up the Pope and half of Westeros nobility and as a reward becomes queen for some reason.
There is no level on which this makes any sense.
It was cool THOUGH
STANNIS
STANNIS
STANNIS
When they cut the plot about Brienne learning about the broken men from Septon Meribald
Ahem, let me read exactly where:
>"The morning had dawned clear and cold, with a crispness that hinted at the end of summer."
When it stopped being an adaptation of a gritty dark fantasy novel.
Season 1 was basically 1:1 for the book (with a couple added scenes that even GRRM agreed were fine) so it was good. Season 2 was the same for the second novel.
Seasons 3 & 4 together adapted A Storm of Swords (book 3) which is basically the quintessential ASoIaF. Everything about the series and the adaptation was explored to its fullest here, they could've stopped the show after season 4 and still had something amazing (same goes for the novels) even though they gutted a lot of the more weird/supernatural plotlines in the show, it still retained that gritty dialogue-heavy atmospheric epic kino.
Everything after that was downhill. Season 5 wasn't really building up to anything anymore, and you could feel the tone shift from grimdark to something more mass-appealing.
Anyone who didn't notice the failings of season 5 noticed it in either 6, 7, or 8. Most full normalgays only realized the show was downhill when season 8 came since they were transfixed by the ride and the hype.
I don’t know about the show but I gave up on the books part way through the 4th (?) one when there was a line like “the ship rocked like a fat man trying to shit.”
That was the last straw, it was getting tedious before that.
That aligns with the timeline of when the show started getting shit too.
Better ending than the books.
I never finished season 5.
How was it?
Season 5 was shit, you stopped watching at the right time