I think the reason Cinemaphile hates it is because of the over the top praise on sites such as reddit. It's not a bad show itself but I think Cinemaphile's negativity towards it is less actual hatred and more feeling it is overhyped.
I watched four seasons and I found it quite boring.
It slowly goes further up its own ass the longer it's on, imo it peaks about season 3, starts getting to be a parody of itself about halfway into season 4, and then never really recovers.
Personally I never feel like it really crashes into unwatchable shit, but after a certain point it becomes apparent they can only really write a handful of plot beats and just recycle them over and over again.
you know, to make this trope work they could make religious figures be on par or superior to the MC.
do you imagine rick fighting buddha? because if we read about what he could then it's more than likely that buddha could kill rick and humble him.
or bojack getting his shit together because jesus actually helped him.
doesn't mean they have to become religious afterwards but instead getting a different perspective, only then does atheism would work in shows.
Most people on Cinemaphile are American and seventy percent of Americans are Christian. Whereas only 6% of them are atheists. Cinemaphile is edgy. But it's a long way from counter culture.
Sometimes I wonder what the average age of this site was when it all started, any original gay that was 18 in it's first year would be 38 years old now.
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Whenever we have "post the ____ that came out on your birthday" threads, there are always a LOT of dudes born in the late 80s.
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I'm 37 and came here when I was in college in like 2004/2005. The Christianity thing is definitely new and so is calling this site "conservative" but I'm sure someone who wasn't born until after 9/11 will tell me I'm wrong because they started posting here when they were 9 and they heard about it being edgy.
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I'm much more of a newbie starting in 2011 but I definitely noticed a serious culture shift in the site around the 2015/2016 mark. I think it was the combo of Gamergate and the elections bringing a ton of newbies in and phones becoming much more ubiquitous
The "other guy" having ridiculous beliefs doesn't mean the opposite stance is suddenly noble and speaks the highest truths. Though most of the criticism for redditors here seems to be the shallow kind (they look dysgenic and behave like cucks)
Cinemaphile was my main board in 2015 and I can very much confirm it was filled with Christposters who would endlessly debate Thomism and other random stuff
Most people alive are either religious or believers of some kind, and Christianity is the most prevalent religion in the world and specially the west, so of course it's more likely that a good percentage of posters here are Christians
If you were a millennial Christian ten years ago you couldn't go anywhere online without atheist circlejerking high jacking any discussion. Luckily, most Atheists back then got filtered and hated Cinemaphile.
I wouldn't say they're Christians, they've just realized that the atheist fantasy of a world that's turned/turning its back on religion isn't the le scientist utopia they thought it was gonna be
Even assuming that was true, I'd expect serious adherents to a faith to be born into it, converted early, or to have had some sort of life-changing experience.
Picking one(1) religion out of many for structure seems more like a fashion statement
Converts are always the most obnoxious people in a faith. Usually someone in their late 20s/early 30s trying to fill a hole in their life and now they're overcompensating
A lot of people who fall into extremist philosophy and are publicly religious are just culturally religious. It falls into their tribe so they rep it true or not. This isn't exactly groundbreaking or super niche knowledge. A lot of very Islamophobic/antisemites in Europe rep crosses because they think the crusade aesthetic looks cool.
Oh it's all "belive the science" until it's time to acknowledge the fact certain religions are more violent than others in current times, and no I don't care about century old grudges, Muslims are and issue right now but we are not supposed to acknowledge that
Crusader stuff is a great aesthetic objectively, hell most aesthetics tied to Christianity are great, have you seen Gothic cathedral? You'd have to be a brainlet to deny they look cool just to spite religion
Because the world is led by a leftist point of view, Cinemaphileners, being the contrarians they are, have to pretend that they’re overzealous Christians who abhor homosexuality, transgenderism, or anything that the other end of the political spectrum likes. Which is ironic, considering that they’re contradicting scriptures from the Bible.
It's just contrarianism that flared up as rightwing ideas are hard to push on their own and need elements of senority to support what would be widely unpopular on its own.
Pretending being religious (let alone a Christian) is the "contrarian" thing to do when most people in the world do im fact have religious beliefs is so funny, really being an atheist angry because mommy and daddy made you get up early on Sundays is a lot more contrarian minded
Contrarians who think they're being counterculture despite Christianity largely being the norm in the US outside of super online spaces on Reddit and Twitter.
Because atheism is cringe and people realized that having a belief system actually improves their quality of life. People who talk shit about christianity but won't breathe a word about the talmud or islam will have you believe it is contrarianism because they want to paint certain groups as irrational to keep you from joining them.
It's just contrarianism that flared up as rightwing ideas are hard to push on their own and need elements of senority to support what would be widely unpopular on its own.
I can't understand what drives people to contrarianism. Hell both shows mentioned in the OP were received favorably here until they became reasonably mainstream on R*ddit
And to flip-flop on cartoons is one thing, but choosing religion and ideology based on what the other guy is against sounds moronic
The "other guy" having ridiculous beliefs doesn't mean the opposite stance is suddenly noble and speaks the highest truths. Though most of the criticism for redditors here seems to be the shallow kind (they look dysgenic and behave like cucks)
I can't understand what drives people to contrarianism. Hell both shows mentioned in the OP were received favorably here until they became reasonably mainstream on R*ddit
And to flip-flop on cartoons is one thing, but choosing religion and ideology based on what the other guy is against sounds moronic
Overhyping a series makestge associated appeal of a piece of media start to shift into being disingenuous. When you look at a braindead site like Reddit praise something as being a work of genius, you're forced to ask if it really is as good as you initial thought, seeing more cracks as the media shifts towards catering towards these braindead morons. It invites the mind to consider the faults in a piece of media that previously wasn't considered as much.
I watched Rick and Morty a few times. I first thought "this is a meh show." As I saw morons praising it, I didn't think "they have better taste than me," I thought "What's wrong with these people? It's a meh show. Why do I not like it as much as they? Oh, right, the comedy sucks and a lot of other media does the shit this show is doing, except better. Huh... maybe this show is worse than "meh.""
>Overhyping a series makestge associated appeal of a piece of media start to shift into being disingenuous
But it's fine as long as it comes from here? This site is full of shallow praise for a lot of things that were initially niche
The majority of people are mindless cattle, so anything that's popular is automatically bad. Especially now since in the past you could easily discern quality by just looking at what the aristocracy and intelligentsia favored. But now everyone is fetishizing the "common man" and as a result you get a culture obsessed with pleasing the lowest common denominator and a class of intellectuals that try to present themselves as commoners and exult the tastes of the common man as high art. We know that commoners, being barely educated and having no time to develop any independent thoughts are incapable of creating or even appreciating high art, so we are stuck in this sad state.
I have more respect for the cringey guy in that Star Wars trailer reaction video than I do people who are so self-conscious about being associated with NPCs/reddit/whatever that they will distance themselves from material they initially enjoyed. This place is full of joyless fricks like Cinemaphile now
Yeah, I remember seeing reading a story on Reddit that immediately goes into atheism and says we already truly know that eternal nothingness is after death.
He doesn't have definite proof of God, but is willing to accept He might exist if it means saving his own ass. Like a last ditch effort to avoid it. They also confirmed some religions in the show are real with that mighty warrior guy who Morty condemns to Hell by not letting Rick kill him and making him doubt it.
I've been using Cinemaphile since '05, we supported gay marriage and child geneder reassigning surgery, this place was a lineral haven before Drumpf ruined it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a larping newbie
>Normalgays simplify the word Materialism to mean wanting stuff >Observable reality has shown that material wealth clearly doesn't lead to lasting happiness >Common usage of the word Materialism embodies Capitalism >People think that Communism is the alternative despite being a Materialist philosophy >Communism has clearly failed >People either cling to a failed ideology or go back to the waggie cope >People can't comprehend happiness outside the Materialist lens >Make cartoons jerking off over how they see the horrible truth >Offer no actual solutions because they think the only alternative to being a redditor is "believing in skydaddy"
I don't think any of the main adult cartoons have particularly interested writers towards Christianity. Simpsons would've been the main one but they've always waivered on "Christian family but realistic to the extent of having some characters not want to wake up for church in the mornings" and "Ugh, Ned, that stupid religious freak" where Homer makes quips and gags that depict himself as not even being Christian anymore. Like I'm pretty sure he's had lines where he says something directly about not caring about the building, the people in it, and the faith it represents. Modern Homer, not old jerkass homer.
Yes, but the whole point of the term flanderization is that they exagerate his religious behavior to be in a more negative light, rather than Homer just taking things personally and wrong.
all those american adult comedy cartoons are atheist, at least the mainstream ones
is bojack an atheist?
>"There is no other side, this is it."
Positive Nihilism: the midwit's philosophy
it isn't wrong though
agree
I hate that Bojack has been boiled down to a reddit show on here because it's actually really funny outside of the "so deep" moments
I think the reason Cinemaphile hates it is because of the over the top praise on sites such as reddit. It's not a bad show itself but I think Cinemaphile's negativity towards it is less actual hatred and more feeling it is overhyped.
I watched four seasons and I found it quite boring.
Why?
I thought the A-stories were fine but the B-stories were almost always a hard fast forward for me.
It slowly goes further up its own ass the longer it's on, imo it peaks about season 3, starts getting to be a parody of itself about halfway into season 4, and then never really recovers.
Personally I never feel like it really crashes into unwatchable shit, but after a certain point it becomes apparent they can only really write a handful of plot beats and just recycle them over and over again.
All its "jokes" are background animation animal puns and tongue twisters.
Which aren't really hilarious as much as just mildly amusing.
As opposed to believing in a magic powerful israelite god in the sky
>as opposed to believing in the truth
filtered out of Salvation many such cases
Nice headcanon
Rick is actually agnostic
Found the redditor
They also push the atheism on people, using "deep words."
It scares me, I know it sounds pathetic, but it scares me.
I hate how they always act like they “know”.
you know, to make this trope work they could make religious figures be on par or superior to the MC.
do you imagine rick fighting buddha? because if we read about what he could then it's more than likely that buddha could kill rick and humble him.
or bojack getting his shit together because jesus actually helped him.
doesn't mean they have to become religious afterwards but instead getting a different perspective, only then does atheism would work in shows.
This fanart is great because Kratos was originally planned to become one of the Three Wise Men
Why are there so many Christians on Cinemaphile?
Being religious is considered subversive and counterculture now, so Cinemaphile pretends they're super into religion.
maybe that could be a good thing, I would love a cartoon about the insane shit on the hindu religion.
we're talking about dbz/invincible type of shit.
Ummm sweaty that is heretical demon larpagan crap only Yahweh is real and true
Most people on Cinemaphile are American and seventy percent of Americans are Christian. Whereas only 6% of them are atheists. Cinemaphile is edgy. But it's a long way from counter culture.
2016 election infiltration from r/the_donald
Get lost leftypol revisionist
The only revisionist here is you my friend. I've come here since 2007 and I can tell you the e christian trad larp didn't start till post 2016.
>Christians didn't exist during the 00's atheist debates
Bait used to be believable
>I've come here since 2006/2007/2008
-t. Every single newbie.
Sometimes I wonder what the average age of this site was when it all started, any original gay that was 18 in it's first year would be 38 years old now.
Whenever we have "post the ____ that came out on your birthday" threads, there are always a LOT of dudes born in the late 80s.
I'm 37 and came here when I was in college in like 2004/2005. The Christianity thing is definitely new and so is calling this site "conservative" but I'm sure someone who wasn't born until after 9/11 will tell me I'm wrong because they started posting here when they were 9 and they heard about it being edgy.
I'm much more of a newbie starting in 2011 but I definitely noticed a serious culture shift in the site around the 2015/2016 mark. I think it was the combo of Gamergate and the elections bringing a ton of newbies in and phones becoming much more ubiquitous
Rule of thumb for these kinds of "I've been here since (X)" posters: Add 10 to the year they give and you'll get the year they started posting.
Holy shit! Anon is from the future!
Based, call out those e-christian larpers.
Samegay damage controlling.
Redditors are pretentious homosexuals.
>Redditors are pretentious homosexuals.
YUP
Based and true, all the seething christcucks replying to you can't cope with reality
atheism is cringe homosexual
>Based and true, all the seething christcucks replying to you can't cope with reality
You're proving his point, Black person
samegay
Cinemaphile was my main board in 2015 and I can very much confirm it was filled with Christposters who would endlessly debate Thomism and other random stuff
>I've come here since 2007
no you havn't
There aren't, it's just that this is not late 00s anymore, most atheists no longer see the point of mocking christians or any other religion
the only anti christian people left are the fedoras and the extreme left
Most people alive are either religious or believers of some kind, and Christianity is the most prevalent religion in the world and specially the west, so of course it's more likely that a good percentage of posters here are Christians
If you were a millennial Christian ten years ago you couldn't go anywhere online without atheist circlejerking high jacking any discussion. Luckily, most Atheists back then got filtered and hated Cinemaphile.
They're Mexicans
believe it or not, Cinemaphile was a conservative website long ago
Cinemaphile used to make fun of Bush and like Obama, but that was before your time
That was everywhere, that's before Obama showed that he was a fake and hypocrite.
As opposed to the 100x worse shit from bush and Trump? kek, moron.
No amount of what aboutism will make me support a Black person that bombs children's hospitals
whataboutisem is GAY!
I never defended Bush and Trump is practically a pacifist compared to Obama
I wouldn't say they're Christians, they've just realized that the atheist fantasy of a world that's turned/turning its back on religion isn't the le scientist utopia they thought it was gonna be
it took you almost two years of the neopuritangay LARP to notice this?
Latinx immigrants are notoriously religious
Atheist rhetoric got old.
I fail to see the mental leap from "wow atheists are annoying" to "I should adopt a religion for myself"
People need philosophical and metaphysical structure in their lives.
Atheism doesn't really offer any.
Even assuming that was true, I'd expect serious adherents to a faith to be born into it, converted early, or to have had some sort of life-changing experience.
Picking one(1) religion out of many for structure seems more like a fashion statement
Just like climate change.
Converts are always the most obnoxious people in a faith. Usually someone in their late 20s/early 30s trying to fill a hole in their life and now they're overcompensating
A lot of people who fall into extremist philosophy and are publicly religious are just culturally religious. It falls into their tribe so they rep it true or not. This isn't exactly groundbreaking or super niche knowledge. A lot of very Islamophobic/antisemites in Europe rep crosses because they think the crusade aesthetic looks cool.
Mudslimes are actually a problem though.
Oh it's all "belive the science" until it's time to acknowledge the fact certain religions are more violent than others in current times, and no I don't care about century old grudges, Muslims are and issue right now but we are not supposed to acknowledge that
>they think the crusade aesthetic looks cool.
that's true, they have great aesthetics
Crusader stuff is a great aesthetic objectively, hell most aesthetics tied to Christianity are great, have you seen Gothic cathedral? You'd have to be a brainlet to deny they look cool just to spite religion
Cinemaphile breeds cultism towards a thing and christcucks are the biggest cult in the west
Because the world is led by a leftist point of view, Cinemaphileners, being the contrarians they are, have to pretend that they’re overzealous Christians who abhor homosexuality, transgenderism, or anything that the other end of the political spectrum likes. Which is ironic, considering that they’re contradicting scriptures from the Bible.
Hello my fellow r/atheism redditor
Pretending being religious (let alone a Christian) is the "contrarian" thing to do when most people in the world do im fact have religious beliefs is so funny, really being an atheist angry because mommy and daddy made you get up early on Sundays is a lot more contrarian minded
Every institution of note is lead by secular atheism ideals. Being atheist is raging with the machine.
>pretend
Cope
Because everywhere is infected with the liberal agenda.
Contrarians who think they're being counterculture despite Christianity largely being the norm in the US outside of super online spaces on Reddit and Twitter.
Because atheism is cringe and people realized that having a belief system actually improves their quality of life. People who talk shit about christianity but won't breathe a word about the talmud or islam will have you believe it is contrarianism because they want to paint certain groups as irrational to keep you from joining them.
yeah because talking shit about christianity doesn't get you labelled racist, arrested, and/or missing a head
So what you're saying is that critics of christianity are gutless shittalkers. Not that I disagree.
>people realized that having a belief system actually improves their quality of life
Proofs?
Society.
Because Christ is King and he loves you
>Atheism
>Immediate Cinemaphile neo-puritan hate and ridicule
It's just contrarianism that flared up as rightwing ideas are hard to push on their own and need elements of senority to support what would be widely unpopular on its own.
I can't understand what drives people to contrarianism. Hell both shows mentioned in the OP were received favorably here until they became reasonably mainstream on R*ddit
And to flip-flop on cartoons is one thing, but choosing religion and ideology based on what the other guy is against sounds moronic
It's not moronic. It's taking a stance that you're against the other guy's beliefs.
The "other guy" having ridiculous beliefs doesn't mean the opposite stance is suddenly noble and speaks the highest truths. Though most of the criticism for redditors here seems to be the shallow kind (they look dysgenic and behave like cucks)
It's called being a tool.
Overhyping a series makestge associated appeal of a piece of media start to shift into being disingenuous. When you look at a braindead site like Reddit praise something as being a work of genius, you're forced to ask if it really is as good as you initial thought, seeing more cracks as the media shifts towards catering towards these braindead morons. It invites the mind to consider the faults in a piece of media that previously wasn't considered as much.
I watched Rick and Morty a few times. I first thought "this is a meh show." As I saw morons praising it, I didn't think "they have better taste than me," I thought "What's wrong with these people? It's a meh show. Why do I not like it as much as they? Oh, right, the comedy sucks and a lot of other media does the shit this show is doing, except better. Huh... maybe this show is worse than "meh.""
>makestge
*makes the
Phoneposting
>Overhyping a series makestge associated appeal of a piece of media start to shift into being disingenuous
But it's fine as long as it comes from here? This site is full of shallow praise for a lot of things that were initially niche
>But it's fine as long as it comes from here
Did anyone make that argument you homosexual?
The majority of people are mindless cattle, so anything that's popular is automatically bad. Especially now since in the past you could easily discern quality by just looking at what the aristocracy and intelligentsia favored. But now everyone is fetishizing the "common man" and as a result you get a culture obsessed with pleasing the lowest common denominator and a class of intellectuals that try to present themselves as commoners and exult the tastes of the common man as high art. We know that commoners, being barely educated and having no time to develop any independent thoughts are incapable of creating or even appreciating high art, so we are stuck in this sad state.
you are just pretentious moron
I have more respect for the cringey guy in that Star Wars trailer reaction video than I do people who are so self-conscious about being associated with NPCs/reddit/whatever that they will distance themselves from material they initially enjoyed. This place is full of joyless fricks like Cinemaphile now
Because they constantly push their ideals on people, like Reddit.
Yeah, I remember seeing reading a story on Reddit that immediately goes into atheism and says we already truly know that eternal nothingness is after death.
N-normal *burp* words, Morty!
>Target audience likes the show.
Oh my fish what a shocker. I have to go tell my anonymous co buddies right now!
Rick isn't an atheist though? Is he? Wasn't he praying to God in another reality?
He doesn't have definite proof of God, but is willing to accept He might exist if it means saving his own ass. Like a last ditch effort to avoid it. They also confirmed some religions in the show are real with that mighty warrior guy who Morty condemns to Hell by not letting Rick kill him and making him doubt it.
He said there is no god
none of these characters are real atheists? they're religious atheists. atheists made by religious people.
Atheism is true whether you like/accept it or not.
Go back to gayddit.
Sorry, I don't share your religious beliefs
And yes, atheism is a religious belief whether you like/accept it or not
No
Atheism is dogmatic, it's the belief that there is no higher powers, the non cringey thing would be being an agnostic
nah atheism is cringe homosexual
I've been using Cinemaphile since '05, we supported gay marriage and child geneder reassigning surgery, this place was a lineral haven before Drumpf ruined it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a larping newbie
stop lying, newbie
Trump was leagues better than Obama redditard.
>child geneder reassigning surgery
Kek. Nobody supported that shit until at least 2015.
It's funny how this turned into a reddit thread almost immediately.
Well duh
>Normalgays simplify the word Materialism to mean wanting stuff
>Observable reality has shown that material wealth clearly doesn't lead to lasting happiness
>Common usage of the word Materialism embodies Capitalism
>People think that Communism is the alternative despite being a Materialist philosophy
>Communism has clearly failed
>People either cling to a failed ideology or go back to the waggie cope
>People can't comprehend happiness outside the Materialist lens
>Make cartoons jerking off over how they see the horrible truth
>Offer no actual solutions because they think the only alternative to being a redditor is "believing in skydaddy"
>Islamic
>Immediate Reddit worship
I don't think any of the main adult cartoons have particularly interested writers towards Christianity. Simpsons would've been the main one but they've always waivered on "Christian family but realistic to the extent of having some characters not want to wake up for church in the mornings" and "Ugh, Ned, that stupid religious freak" where Homer makes quips and gags that depict himself as not even being Christian anymore. Like I'm pretty sure he's had lines where he says something directly about not caring about the building, the people in it, and the faith it represents. Modern Homer, not old jerkass homer.
>Ned
He was always depicted as the happiest most fulfilled character in the show. Homer having an irrational hatred for him was a gag
Yes, but the whole point of the term flanderization is that they exagerate his religious behavior to be in a more negative light, rather than Homer just taking things personally and wrong.
pickle rick