So what's her gimmick? She's like Green Lantern but pink?
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Atom Eve
So what's her gimmick? She's like Green Lantern but pink?
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Her power is she can do whatever she wants
She’s easily the strongest character
In the series?
She has Wanda tier powers so yeah
So how does Eve fair in either of the big 2?
She'll job horribly like Captain Atom because DC is dogshit
*except against Viltrumites for some gay reason
This is, imo, and for lack of a better term, a "skill issue". Viltrumites are molecularly different than anything else she's manipulated. With practice she likely could.
Why are there so many morons in this thread who can't read?
She cannot affect living creatures with her powers, the only exception to this is that when she's about to die her survival instinct overpowers that restrictions for a moment to let her heal herself. She cannot just learn how to use her powers on Viltrumites, humans, or any other creatures, because she was designed that way.
>She cannot affect living creatures with her powers, the only exception to this is that when she's about to die her survival instinct overpowers that restrictions for a moment to let her heal herself
thats fricking moronic
well, it's canon either way, I didn't write it
The thing is, it implies its not some hard limitation. its just some psycho repressive shit. because here doinging it when she gets offed kinda shows its just. "Ah well we want her to heal herself, but not really mess around with bloodbending shenanigans cause we dont want to deal with it, even though there is no difference between carbon in a pencil and carbon in a bone.
that doesn't make it any less moronic, moron
Designer powers come with designer limits, she was made to be a weapon and you want to make sure your weapon doesn't go full blob that ate everyone.
She had her powers from birth. If they didn’t put those subconscious restrictions in, what happens when she accidentally uses her powers on her own body and kill’s herself because she turned her head to glass in her sleep?
*unless she's dying for some even gayer reason
Kirkman is such a hack. Even if Viltrumites have stronger molecules or whatever, the idea that Eve can't beat one in a fight is absurd. Literally just plot armor.
>the idea that Eve can't beat one in a fight is absurd
Capeshit doesn't run on logic, the foundation is based on narrative. If you're not important then you lose.
How powerful are her energy beams? Doesn't intense heat frick with a Viltrumite? Or was it intense cold? I know Mark fought Thragg over.. the sun and that was fricking with him
She doesn't shoot energy beams, she manipulates matter. Most of the time when she's hitting people with stuff that looks like pink energy or whatever it' her hardening the air into something she can hit them with. Eve is kind of an unimaginative moron about the ways she uses her powers.
Is it Eve or Kirkman? Lol. How would you use those powers?
If you want to stop a bad guy you can manipulate the air inside their respiratory system and digestive tract. Could easily instantly kill them or at least immobilize them. Eve instead hits them with stuff or shoots beams.
>I know Mark fought Thragg over.. the sun and that was fricking with him
In the words of my idol, Adam Sandler: Yeah but who wouldn't that kill?
In some Superman iterations it actually powers him up.
Well Superman is solar-powered, they're not.
I was answering Mr. Sandler's question.
So if I were to hit a Viltrumite with a lightning bolt would that oneshot them or damn near? Cause a lightning bolt is hotter than the sun.
normal real life people have survived being hit with lightning bolts with minor injuries relatively speaking.
Well yeah but if intense heat fricks with them that much
Yes. Just Palpatine em.
I assume it's because of the extended period of time they spent there. also being more durable seems to be a conscious effort for viltrumites, like they can will themselves to be more invulnerable if they can focus. (this is just an observation I have seeing Mark progressively take his bullies hits better as he knows there coming, and Nolan being able to shrug of marks very telegraphed punch). so maybe because they need to focus on killing each other, they're not focusing on being durable.
Interesting.
That's a pretty good way to spice up an otherwise generic set of powers. I like it.
I can't tell which is which
Eve absolutely should not be helpless againts a Viltrumite, at least as far as earth heroes are concerned
Even accounting for her limits she should be able to at least replicate the vibration trick Cecil and Robot will learn from the Depth Dweller, mimic those quantum bombs which killed Omniman in an alternate universe or try to frick with Viltrumite breathing. Maybe she could practice making some advanced never before seen meta materials with extraordinary properties, something that with enough practics she could make really fast and which theoretically could harm a Viltrumire
Really anything Cecil or Robot can do againts a Viltrumite using technology Eve should be able to replicate en masse (as much as her body can handle)
>Eve absolutely should not be helpless againts a Viltrumite, at least as far as earth heroes are concerned
I agree.
Having others that can help fight is always good, this is what weakens everything after Dragon Ball for example.
It forces Mark to be Goku and he has to fight damn near everything and everyone while everyone else is a fricking cheerleader.
Goku and Dragonball were never good.
Vegeta is the only character worth talking about.
Yep.
Yeah, I don't think she should be able to win a 1 v 2 but the idea that Eve couldn't even beat a rogue Invincible is just stupid
Its an edgy superheros comic made in the 2000s for boys. Some hoe godmodding everyone would only be slightly better than the neo feminism of everything else because Eve is a developed/mostly likable character
Can she die by getting hit in the head with a rock?
unclear as that never happened in the comic
She can definitely survive dying of old age, getting imapled through the torso by a guy with arms the size of a tree trunk, and having the bottom half of her skull obliterated by a Viltrumite punch.
What about chopping her head off?
She's basically got Fullmetal Alchemist powers, but turned up to 1000 and with a failsafe built in to stop her from using her powers on living creatures so that she doesn't become an uncontrollable godlike being.
This. Literally came here to post the Fullmetal Alchemist comparison.
I have only seen three fullmetal alchemist moments in my life.
1. Shortie losing his arm and foot to put his brother in a robot?
2. The.. girl dog.
>RAGE
3. Mustang setting a woman on fire.
Her powers aren’t really anything outside the scope of what an alchemist can do in FMA, the only real advantage she has over them is intrinsically having knowledge about molecular chemistry. Everything she does can be done in FMA, even the resurrection and immortality.
>Her powers aren’t really anything outside the scope of what an alchemist can do in FMA
can't she fricking fly?
Kind of, the explanation for how she flies is that she's continuously manipulating the air around herself and basically pushing herself around through it. On a very BASIC level, still something that theoretically is within the realm of possibility for an alchemist from FMA, but in practice completely on a different level from them.
Well, they never really go into detail about how the limitation was placed or how it actually functions (that I can remember), but even if it is a psychological block, the way it's presented in the comic itself, she cannot just overcome it by will. We also don't completely know why she can override it in life-or-death situations, it's theorized by the characters in-story that he natural survival instinct just overrides whatever the limitation is in a way that her creators didn't anticipate being possible, but it's equally likely they might have specifically built that loophole in themselves to protect their investment, Eve literally doesn't know all she can do is guess.
>something that theoretically is within the realm of possibility for an alchemist from FMA
How? Gloves with transmutation circles like Mustang’s where you propel yourself through the air by snaps like flapping wings? I’m calling bs.
The logistics of actually trying to fly around like that would be absolutely moronic, I agree. I'm not saying it's a thing the alchemists could actually do, I'm just saying the core principal of the underlying process she's performing is theoretically something they could recreate on a smaller more useless scale.
I don't agree with the guy saying Eve's powers aren't more OP than what can be done in FMA, I think that guy's kind of dumb.
She doesn't need to please a fickle shadow god or sacrifice human souls to pull off big stuff
>read fickle as tickle
>the god is not a shadow tickle god
damn it
How the hell can fullmetal alchemist powers turn fricking pinecones into unopened, filled bottles of beer like she did in episode 2?
I mean, unless Eve added other ingredients she was working with the matter on hand to make those beers. An FMA alchemist could do that by default.
FMA alchemists can rearrange and move matter, or break down/join molecules. Like turning liquid water into hydrogen and oxygen gas, or turning coal into diamond. How the hell would that translate to turning a wooden pinecone into enough beer to fill a bottle?
based on a few cases like that, it seems like she can also rearrange subatomic particles too, in order to turn atoms of one type into another as needed
is this overpowered and poorly thought out? shouldn't this in theory give her nuclear fission capabilities? yes to both, but for whatever capeshit reason it doesn't; Invincible plays pretty fast and loose with this kind of sci-fi stuff in general
Who says it’s just the pinecone? What about the water from the air? The yeast from the surface of the pinecones, silica from the dirt, etc. Unless Eve is making new ingredients out of thin air / nuclear fission it should just be a matter of writing the correct equation and transmutation circle to rearrange the existing components.
You need the red stone to cheat stuff you don't personally have
She can alter any molecules into whatever she wants. Only limit is it doesn’t work on people.
It was always kind of weird to me that the epilogue didn't have anything about them putting the resources of the empire into trying to figure out a way around her inhibitor, since removing that would basically allow her to solve any problem ever.
That's how you create another nigh unbeatable villain when she inevitable goes insane after 5000 years.
I don't disagree, but a running theme in Kirkman's work seems to be that he unironically believes that total authoritarianism is le good if only we could pick the right people.
Kirkman is not the only one who thinks that.
Yes I'm aware there's more than one moron in the world
I’ve theorized that monarchy could work if it was like a form of child sacrifice. From birth the ruler is taught philosophy, trained to be king, has no personal life and exists solely for the people. If you get a bad egg, kill and replace it with the next in line. Maintain multiple branches of the same families. Etc etc etc.
I've theorized that you're moronic, and that system still relies on there being the oversight of perfectly noble people who have no self-interest.
She was specifically designed to have a mental block that prevents her from using her powers on living beings under normal circumstances, she's only able to do it when she's about to die as an unintended survival instinct.
See
Got ya
>convinces Mark to let her practice on him
>makes his dick bigger
>accidentally
>system still relies on there being the oversight of perfectly noble people who have no self-interest.
I don’t disagree. Honestly part of where it starts to fall apart is when you realize this isn’t that far off the like the Dalai Lama who’s just a CIA puppet (possibly backed by a demonic lake spirit) at this point.
>She was specifically designed to have a mental block
She should rebuild herself without that.
Yeah, that's right
So, Dune. You’re describing Dune.
Wrong
He's describing outward Plato's ideas; The Republic.
Dune didn't invent them
>I’ve theorized that monarchy could work if it was like a form of child sacrifice
classic Cinemaphile
The fact that her powers can do almost anything and she uses them to fly around in a pink skirt making bubbles to fight bank robbers is in fact a central part of her character arc.
What, does she have a "I could really be doing so much fricking more" moment?
Yeah, she literally goes "ya know what, frick this, I'm gonna go help starving kids in Africa or something", then goes to do white girl shit in Africa for a few months, gets bored of that, and starts doing bank robber bubble shit again, but without a skirt now.
She realized that letting them starve is a better option. Good on her.
I was caught off guard by her spontaneously generating a fricking treehouse after doing nothing all season but pink lasers
Her powers are specifically made so she lives as long as mark so he has a love interest
Thousands of years together
What do you think is Mark's favorite age to bang Eve at, since he gets a constant cycle from mid-20s to geriatric? Do you think Eve ever got frustrated with being old and fragile and asked Mark to give her a quick reset so they could go rough again?
Why Eve gets older and then has to reset?
>Do you think Eve ever got frustrated with being old and fragile and asked Mark to give her a quick reset so they could go rough again?
This reads like a very Eve thing to do. There are hundreds of ways she could kill herself and reset on her own, but she'd rather traumatize Mark and ask him to do it.
Think of it like a kinky rp. After a few thousand years you have to be a kinky son of a b***h.
Hell, she probably got frustrated at least once about him being too gentle during when she was physically like 70 and forced him to literally frick her to death so they could get on with it.
Eve is kind of psychotic honestly.
My kind of woman.
I have a problem.
>ack
Does anyone like this gore in comics?
I enjoyed crossed
It was at this moment that Kate realized she chose the wrong member of that couple to have an affair with.
what a shit ugly fridge design
One of the reasons I dropped the show
doesn't wear the leotard and has no curves is a very standard woke boring MCU design, pure garbage
Why does her costume have the female symbol on it?
Cause she's a woman?
unlike you
Because she's Atom EVE, the symbol is a play on the atomic symbol and the female symbol to play up the biblical female aspect of her name.
She ages normally, but any time she is about to die her powers kick in instinctually and override her restriction, allowing her to fix herself. They discover she's functionally immortal when she's about to die of old age for the first time and she resets herself to her physical prime.
>She ages normally, but any time she is about to die her powers kick in instinctually and override her restriction, allowing her to fix herself. They discover she's functionally immortal when she's about to die of old age for the first time and she resets herself to her physical prime.
She can't learn how to control that and stay at -insert age-?
Also that's pretty cool either way tbqh.
No. She was designed that way so she didn't become an OP abomination. Her restoring herself is only possible for a short moment because there's no point in letting your creation die when it could technically live forever. Eve's limiter is not being able to operate on organic material. If you took that off permanently, if you 'just learned how' then she'd be pretty fricking crazy. After a couple thousand years of experimentation on yourself and your pseudo-clones you'd probably learn how to scale your senses and powers up even further and basically be God.
They knew what they were doing when the limited the frick out of her.
>Anytime she dies
Well that’s not true, she can be killed just fine and only unlocked that power by chance when she was dying of old age.
Except that's explicitly not true moron, she's nearly killed several times in the series and is able to overcome her restriction to save herself every time, with the first time it happened being when Conquest gave her the old Viltrumite handshake.
How does this play into Evil Invincible snapping her neck? Why didn't she fix herself and rip Mark and Nolan apart right there?
she wasn't going to die, so no life saving.
She's a silver age lantern. Back when they could actually permanently affect matter instead of it all just being temporary constructs
her gimmick is she makes my dick hard.
Oh hi Mark
Why does she look like Monster Girl?
Cheaply reusing a model with color change.
What’s wrong with her anatomy?
well there's a vacancy between her legs for one thing
Pedophiles should hang from trees.
She's the Dr. Manhattan of the Invincible universe.
Except she's been brainwashed to not use her powers to her full potential, so she ends up as one of the weakest hero's in the early part of the series.
She's nowhere close to Dr.M, honestly. She has an extremely effective powerset but her scale is limited as frick even without the restriction to non-organic material. Dr. M isn't even fully confined temporally. That said she has more agency than him. He is basically just a natural disaster with self-awareness. The moment you transcend time you get to a level of meta that's no longer helpful. You can observe the past and future but they are immutable. You're just 'reviewing' your actions that you've already made or will make. Why did you make them despite knowing better? Because you already had made them and will make them. Simple as that.
They both manipulate atoms at a molecular level. Obviously Manhattan is fricking OP as all hell, especially considering he cannot be killed and is somewhat omnipotent.
Dr M's cool because he's compelling. I never feel like he can lose, but I don't think that's the point of the character. Its more like a study on how Super Heros can practically be gods due to their power, and so while you can talk to him or interact with him, you aren't really doing so as much as you think you are.
And I like how he's a big blue naked dude.
He's my favorite super hero. I will never forgive them for butchering him in the tv series. Something that did not need to exist.
>Not big.
>Not naked.
My god, its like they missed the point of the character entirely.
Yakub?!
>manipulate atoms at a molecular level
Read that again, carefully
Speaking of Viltrumites, if a Viltrumite has a kid with another species that kid basically becomes 100% Viltrumite right?
In the two cases we've seen, yes, but that's an extremely small sample size to draw a conclusion from.
>uhh I guess I can literally resurrect myself and those around me if I'm in mortal danger because of the stress lol
>dies peacefully as an old woman
>
Frick this book's shitty ending
Rad
>bullshits a way for Eve to be immortal under every circumstance
>completely ignores his mother's death so that we don't have any nuance to the ending
>Mark has learned literally nothing and is using his new empire to enforce his will on every planet he comes across, but now he's a good guy for doing it
Anon, you don't understand. After shitting on Mark for years, the universe must converge and bring only good things to Mark. It is only right and fair.
No, Mark deserved almost everything bad that happened to him because he's a dumbass who thought he knew best. Literally nothing changes in that regard he just starts having more power to throw around so it works out. It's stupid and that ending was unearned.
The comic goes to shit after the first time Mark leaves Earth for an extended period of time
I know. I was being sarcastic. The ending would have been better to me if Mark had actually learned that.
Personally I look forward to seeing the Dinosaurus arc adapted for these exact reasons.
The thing that bothers me the most is that he puts Immortal in charge of Earth even though he KNOWS that he'll eventually go crazy and frick everything up. He literally knows for a fact that it will happen and he does it anyway, and the ending completely ignores this
>He literally knows for a fact that it will happen and he does it anyway, and the ending completely ignores this
Mark "If I touch it that'll become my problem" Grayson. tbh that's likely the lesson he learned from everything.
No, he THINKS that he's avoiding that bad end by leaving jar brain Rudy there to help him so he doesn't go insane, because Mark doesn't know that jar brain Rudy was the thing that caused him to go insane in the original timeline via manipulation. Mark is dumb, but not for the reason you think.
Mark's a dumbass for thinking that would help at all.
At least he has drip tho.
Correct, but he did still try to do what he thought was something different that might help.
Honestly the idea that Immortal wouldn't have turned into a depot eventually if only evil bad Rudy brain man wasn't there is also moronic, but Kirkman's ideas about society and politics and shit are also moronic so that makes sense.
It almost feels like he forgot about it though, because unless I missed it there isn't even a thought bubble with Mark hoping that Immortal will turn out okay with Robot's help.
The way he decides to jar his brain and then instructs Immortal to use him to make things better makes it pretty clear that he thinks doing this will help with that. No he doesn't outright say "hey if you try to do this on your own you're gonna go crazy" but he's very clearly thinking about it himself.
I dunno, feels like a stretch. Like none of this feels to me like Mark has considered that Immortal will go insane
It seems pretty obvious to me, but if I remember correctly it was also confirmed via word of god when someone asked Kirkman about it once.
I like Immortal's costume.
It's not bad, but it definitely just feels a bit like a way more busy less good version of Mark's to me.
Fair enough
>>Mark has learned literally nothing and is using his new empire to enforce his will on every planet he comes across, but now he's a good guy for doing it
see
I don't like characters with the power level of Atom Eve. Its weird that she's easily the most OP capshit character, but the writers just go "Nuh-uh!" and so she loses.
Literally, the writers go "she lost because she did, homosexual, what are you gonna do about it".
Literally every character goes through that though. I mean I guess you're specifically talking characters whose abilities should put them up their very high on the totem poll but more or less every character who stomps will eventually have a scene, a moment, etc where the plot demands they get hurt. That they lose.
>Literally every character goes through that though.
Yeah, but when it happens to your superman types, its because the dudes were stronger than him. When you think about it, Superman isn't THAT OP at all, you just have to hit him hard and that's why villains like Doomsday is a problem.
With Eve, why couldn't she shred Doomsday by turning the ground he walks on into any variety of death trap? Why is she shooting pink fricking lasers?
I know Superman loses when the plot demands he does, but it reaches a level of absurdity when you have that happen to an OP character.
I'm happy Eve got a game though.
>why couldn't she shred Doomsday by turning the ground he walks on into any variety of death trap? Why is she shooting pink fricking lasers?
This won't even work. And 2nd, Doomsday is an adaptation weapon. He'll just keep coming back immune to whatever you did to him before.
she can turn the ground underneath him into jello then when he sinks into it turn it into a mineral strong enough to hold him long enough for a viltrumite to throw him into the sun. she can also make this material functional at absolute zero if needed or made of pure atomic reaction to nuke him if needed. doomsday is an adaptation weapon, but he needs to have a chance to adapt first.
He'll come back and be immune to all that and then you'll have to come up with another moronic ass plan.
>I'm happy Eve got a game though.
Agreed.
Also you can bypass punching Superman really hard and using kryptonite if you bypass his durability with some magical weapon.
LOL we got a newbie here, welcome to the story of capeshit loser.
>welcome to the story of capeshit loser.
Batman losing in a fight is more reasonable than Eve losing in a fight. That's the difference.
Batman got his ass kicked by Harley Quinn. Fricking idiot, it's capeshit there's nothing realistic about it. Full grown ass men asking for logic in a dumbass cartoon.
>Batman got his ass kicked by Harley Quinn.
That's more reasonable than Eve losing to anything. At the end of the day, Batman's a normal person who lost a fight. I don't understand why you're acting so obtuse about it, namegay. We're talking about a situation like if Harley Quinn beat Jesus Christ in a fist fight. And not once did I ask for "logic", I just said it was fricking stupid.
Batman is a peak human who has been trained by the best in the world. There are no situations where he should be outmaneuvered by a fricking girl dressed as a Jester. It's like a level 10 going against a level 100. It shouldn't have happened.
>Batman is a peak human who has been trained by the best in the world. There are no situations where he should be outmaneuvered by a fricking girl dressed as a Jester.
That's a moment where I can say "well, its a comic". Because, as far as we're concerned, a normal human lost to a normal human. For most people, all of those nuances go out of the window as soon as you remember Batman would die to getting hit in the back of the head the wrong way.
If you really can't see the difference between Batman losing and Atom Eve losing, I don't think you're ready to have this conversation.
>a normal human lost to a normal human
Batman isn't a normal human. What the frick are you not getting?
Listen bro, if you're going to ignore the bulk of my response and then talk to me like you're confused, I'm just going to ignore you.
>I'm just going to ignore you.
This sounds like cope because you don't know shit about DC characters.
But she’s cRaZy!! It’s cringe as hell, sure, but it’s also the Joker’s excuse.
Batman lost to a little girl named Cassandra Cain too.
>otherwise normal thread
>unnecessary polygon link
have a nice day
I leave to go outside for 20 mins and come back to a namegay shitting up the thread, as usual.
SHUT THE FRICK UP b***h.
Invinciblegays acting like OP ass characters all don't have the same problem of being inconsistent as frick.
Just so you know I didn't read your reply and I've filtered you. Seethe into the void namegay.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Atom_Eve_(Image_Comics)
Considering the Immortal is also Abe Lincoln and he was already tyrannical in the 1860s.. oh fugg.
What happens if you chop Eve's head off?
So no one is going to answer that one? So Eve can die by easily chopping her head off good to know.
I'm sure that knowledge will come in handy for you one day
I kind of wish there was some explanation as to WHY viltrumites are so much stronger than otner aliens. Even something as simple as Viltrum being an extremely hostile environment and life their just evolved tp be over the top would be fine.
Can a single namegay keep a zombie thread going in perpetuity or would it eventually get cleaned up? Asking for a friend.
Namegays ruin threads.
I'm glad I ruined your day.
There goes my idea of a female Mark Invincible fanfic and Eve using her abilities to give FemMark a penis for breeding purposes.
>your vegana is an illusion
>you are a divine masculine
>you already have a spirit penis
>divine masculine
just made me think of Heinrich Agrippa's divine feminine
…are you the same anon who’s been talking about the archons and hermetics on here today or is Cinemaphile more interesting than I’d thought?
No I am not that anon but I am behind the occult Cinemaphile thread and I sit on /x/ a lot.
Gotcha. Honestly, I should do more board hopping. Some of the occult Cinemaphile posts I’ve seen were surprisingly on point.
When one board gets a little too 'much' its time to swap for an hour.
Or a week, it depends.
>he keeps replying to me even though I've filtered him
topkek
Even when filtered, I still manage to piss you off.
Cope, seethe, and pee b***h.
We all know you're still looking at my post. You can't help it.
>here's what I think of your plot armor
Do you think you could live for thousands of years
MUH hoe
MUH feminism
Wonder if Wasp x Sasha's lovechild will die the same way in the comics or current year allows her to live long enough to die to cannibal evil Mark instead.
Why is there a cannibal Mark
Kirkman is an edgelord who likes shocking shit seems like the only answer
Answer me.
Speaking of evil Marks they are odd
They talk in that casual high school teenager way while brutally killing people
Particle manipulation ANY particle shes basically God