>hate Superman clones
I don't like flying bricks like Superman because they're too unrealistic for me, but I have no problem with reality warpers and magicians. I just cannot wrap my head around a random physical race having a body that somehow allows it to break all laws of physics. Meanwhile reality warpers are basically magic so I just chalk it up to them being connected to some "higher plane", and I can buy it. It's magic, it explains it. But when you try to make a literal race have near god levels of powers and excuse it as "uhm, ackthualhy the sun powers their cells" then I cannot buy it. It's moronic magic, not cool magic.
>hate gods mingling with abstracts
I cannot accept the existence of Pagan gods in the Marvel/DC universes, especially when they're palling around with Abstracts. I just cannot buy into it. If the Pagan gods were real the whole time, where did they go and allowed monotheistic religions to take root? If we Earthers have them, where are the gods of all those alien races? How do they fit into the whole Abrahamic model these two mostly use? Where do demons, alternate reality deities LARPing as demons, actual angels, and so on, fit with it all? It's too much of a mess.
>hate shared universes
I prefer smaller verses. Like how early Ultimate was much more grounded and everything was connected and could be traced back to the SSS. It made the universe feel far more cohesive. I hate the approach where everything coexists. How can I be invested in a tech espionage story when I know some random schmuck can read two scrolls and do the exact same thing with magic?
>hate the vast majority of X-Gene powers
I can buy energy-based powers being the "next step of human evolution". I can buy some low level mutations like Logan's healing factor. But the moment they go into Mystique's shapeshifting, Destiny's pre-cog, Blob, Pyro, and so, I check out. It's too much. The whole X-Gene "lore" is even more moronic than literal magic, and far more contradictory.
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>still waiting for an answer
This
Because Captain Marvel aka Billy Baston was flying and DC seethed and sued.
I don't like teams, with very few exceptions. X-Men, Avengers, Ultimates, Defenders, Titans, Justice Leagues and Societies, Doom Patrol, Legion of Superheroes, and any "families" can go frick off. If it's a team book, it's probably a bad book.
Billy Batson's Marvel Family gave him people to riff on the bad guys and banter with.
If I'm going to get invested in a team I prefer small teams of three to six members.
Shared universes are only a problem when plot threads are strewn haphazardly across it. Ideally a shared universe should be made to feel bigger for having been home to many stories, not made to feel crowded and cluttered by stories that step on each other's toes.
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These don't seem like unreasonable pet peeves. If only the writers could be as autistic.
>hate Superman clones
i agree on the metaphysics shit, they need to set a power ceiling
Jack Kirby tried that with Darkseid but then DC decided to shit it up and make him the universal satan of all things
>>hate Superman clones
>I don't like flying bricks like Superman because they're too unrealistic for me, but I have no problem with reality warpers and magicians. I just cannot wrap my head around a random physical race having a body that somehow allows it to break all laws of physics. Meanwhile reality warpers are basically magic so I just chalk it up to them being connected to some "higher plane", and I can buy it. It's magic, it explains it. But when you try to make a literal race have near god levels of powers and excuse it as "uhm, ackthualhy the sun powers their cells" then I cannot buy it. It's moronic magic, not cool magic.
This is Fliecher's fault. Original Superman made sense cause he was just jumping around like John Carter of Earth. the Fleischer animations gave him flight cause it was too hard to animate jumping. Not sure why comics just went along like a bunch of chumps
jumping looks goofy
I like jumping.
Started with the Radio show (Feb 1940, compared to Sept 1941). Anyway, Flying is cool. Superman is cool, thus Superman can fly.
If you read into it more than that, you're doing entirely it entirely too much.
People who only read licenseshit comics are genuinely some of the dumbest fricking people I've ever seen and are fundamentally useless for comics in general
It saddens me how huge of a fanbase those stupid giving Transformers comics used to have.
Hahaha frick you
>hate gods mingling with abstracts
distinguishing the two is very stupid
I hate when white character where full white outfits or black characters where full black outfits. It needs to be switched around.
I agree with all of those except shared universes which understand but still overall like.
Thought I might give my own take on each of these from my own little story I’m making.
>Superman clones
Artificial beings created through alien engines fusing with humans. The engines are designed to make living creatures into essentially mini spacecrafts so that’s why they can fly
>gods mingling with abstracts
Gods run on the same rule set as in American Gods
Also all aliens have their own gods
>shared universes
I’m trying to keep it small with maybe only a couple side stories
>X gene stuff
Agreed here. My mutations are only stuff like claws, healing, some animal traits, and forms of elasticity. All other powers are expressed via psychic powers which are physical representations of the user’s psyche
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>hate Superman clones
All of the Superman clones seem to only work for
>hate gods mingling with abstracts
I hate the "it is real because you believe it to be" mechanic in a lot of fictional settings.
>hate shared universes
I do like a sense of escalation like BTAS to JLU.
>hate the vast majority of X-Gene powers
I have a lot of different problems with it but what I hate the most is "evolved" powers like Shadow Cat's time travel powers.
>All of the Superman clones seem to only work for
You didn't finish your sentence, now I will never know what Superman clones are for.
I kept typing and erasing it that I lost my train of thought and wanted to just bump thread.
All of the Superman clones seem to only work for pointing out how the concept of Superman doesn't really work. Superman can a lot more good in not being Superman. Even if it isn't going full Zod, he could be more useful as a scientist or a benevolent monarch. He doesn't work as an aspirational hero because his heroic nature is not abusing the powers that nobody will ever have. He doesn't work as a plot device because his powers are boring but very practical. He doesn't really work as a metaphor either.
>He doesn't really work as a metaphor either.
>What do you mean there's a nigh century old metaphor of him as an Immigrant Hero and champion of the marginalized? I just said he doesn't work! My unsupported claims trump some 2000+ issues worth of examples to the contrary.
>he could be more useful as a scientist
This is my biggest complaint about Superman. I can buy that he wouldn't go full-authoritarian, but Superman, whose brain is canonically a quantum computer, wasting his intellect to play reporter is what makes me loathe the character. We know that due to the status quo he'd never be able to change anything, but Superman should be spending far more time doing science stuff than playing firefighter.
>He doesn't really work as a metaphor either.
Almost no capes work as any kind of metaphor, because most powerlevels are so broken than any kind of resemblance to the real world crumbles. Take just Iron Man. Stark's tech alone being real, no SSS, no Hulk, no X-Men, just the average StarkTech, would change the world in such a way that nothing would ever be the same. Then you add literal gods, reality warpers, walking nuclear reactors, a race of literal nukes and so on, and it all becomes such a clusterfrick that nothing makes any kind of sense.
I'm more lenient of the latter. It's a metaphorical/abstract problem so you go into
>muh will power/soul power
region which can be whatever you want. Having a bunch of not!humans have cells that can store sunlight and literally race around the universe is far more moronic. If there was a power cap, them being able to fly a bit, be stronger and so on, sure, no problem. But when you make them such physical gods then I check out. Magic and abstracts are all about flow and feel, so I'm more lenient towards them.
>>hate shared universes
Shared universe is cancer that ruined comics so you're based for this
>Shared universe is cancer
Imagine surviving cancer for a hundred years.
Imagine being a crippled brother to a more successful man who doesn't care about you (Manga)
X-Men don't make sense precisely because they share a universe with other metahumans
The X-Men make sense when every Marvel citizen just fricking hates their heroes, it's just multiplied when dealing with mutie shit
>>hate the vast majority of X-Gene powers
shit taste
>I can buy energy-based powers being the next step of human evolution
that's not canon, it's a cope from Erik
>Let's not pretend Image's failed TV pilots are much better.
Say what you want about them but their readership is actually interested in comics outside their enclosed box of familiarity and are more prone to follow talent rather than brands
>>uh, these aliens who look like humans have supah-speshul cells that absorb sun
I don't mind this. The most moronic part is when Superman lifts a book with """infinite""" pages, that's where I stop caring about a character.
>>hate gods mingling with abstracts
>I cannot accept the existence of Pagan gods in the Marvel/DC universes, especially when they're palling around with Abstracts. I just cannot buy into it. If the Pagan gods were real the whole time, where did they go and allowed monotheistic religions to take root? If we Earthers have them, where are the gods of all those alien races? How do they fit into the whole Abrahamic model these two mostly use? Where do demons, alternate reality deities LARPing as demons, actual angels, and so on, fit with it all? It's too much of a mess.
The gods of all those alien races either got killed by Gorr or got no relation to earth.
It's a moronic premise. You cannot expect me to take space dogfights seriously when the literal gods of thunder/sea/death/etc are just sitting in the background. Earth alone has tons of Pantheons, but nobody else does. Then you have Skyfathers hanging out with Abstracts. It's moronic. Ancient Astronauts like the Eternals should be the go-to where they inspired the myths, and if you go with some magic stories you can have a few "gods" existing as the collective idea of those deities. One thunder god, one god of wisdom and so on, existing as meta narratives. Thor fighting alongside guys called Captain America and Iron Man is moronic and I've always hated it.
Depends on where you're taking it. If this is a Cinemaphile
>muh heckin slashers are heckin valid but A24 and their slowburn chillers keep bullying me
thing, then I disagree. Slashers are for literal vile morons. Things like Crossed or Snyder's "quilt of bodies" in Death Of The Family are peak edgecore, which I find disgusting. But I will agree that blood and gore aren't inherently bad, neither are
>ebin allegory for real issues presented as a heckin monster
deep or interesting, as it's overplayed to the max.
The problem is that it's hard to make comics scary as they're just drawings, whereas movies and games control the atmosphere in more immersive ways.
Thanks, I guess.
I wrote down a couple as cliffnotes. Even shared some here when Cinemaphile wasn't infested by tumblrtards and cartoongays, and you could get some actual comic discussion going. The ones I developed the most were
>an Iron Man centric AU with just Tony, SHIELD, etc, the FF as just scientists, and Doom as Tony's nemesis, with the title going into the far future (cyberpunk heavy)
>a huge sprawling Space Opera centered on the X-Men (Celestials, etc included), which is the closest to answering my OP complaints
>a more restrained version of the above focusing on the magic characters
Fortunately I don't like either slashers nor muh allegory shit.
For me horror has always been about evoking dread rather than "dude gore lmao" (though I agree gore is not inherently bad) or jerking off to how smart I am for figuring out the (not really) deep metaphors the work has to offer, it's more about emotion rather than plot or anything else, so I guess it could be really subjective. I think Ben Templesmith's artstyle does a good job at conveying the feeling when it comes to horror, I just wish he got paired with better writers to really make it shine.
Snyder just stole the idea from Jeepers Creepers but then again he's not the only one. I think Von Trier's The House Jack Built realized a similar idea the best anyway, even if the movie was just okay and overhyped because "IT'S SO SHOCKING OMG" advertising. At least it did look somewhat creepy to me unlike most times edgy creators try to pull it off.
>"horror" by technicality
I absolutely hate all the "horror isn't supposed to be scary, shitlord" morons who overtook the genre and decided that any edgy theme is horror
>gore/murder = horror
>monsters/killers = horror
Just frick off.
It makes it extremely difficult to seek out actually good stuff and word of mouth is worthless because most people are brainless morons with shit taste and sensitivity of a 5 year old.
Very rarely a comic actually tries to be scary,
This doesn't just extends to comics by the way, this is a cinema problem as well.
Whoa.
I’m not going to try and fix you or correct you op. It seems like you have an interesting idea. Have you thought of creating a comic or novel ever short stories on websites you can write on about your ideas? I’m intrigued on seeing what you some up with
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>Lots of things?
>doesn't list them
The only homosexual here is you.
Why would I list them you colossal homosexual? I like eclairs, want me to list that too? Want me to make a list of every genre and mixture and title and everything I "like"? I'm fluid in what I like because I give almost everything a chance, hence there being no point in me discussing that in this thread. If I want I'll make another thread about one of the things I like. It's what I dislike that is set in stone and is the point of the thread. If you bothered to read all my replies, you'd get a sense of my "likes", but no, you've got to be a Black person, ruining the thread while not even contributing.
Oh yeah, no arguments there from me. As for THTJB, I'm torn on it. It's not a boring movie, it's not far up its own arse, and it does make you wonder where the whole thing will go, but it ultimately doesn't say much for how long it is. And it was far less "shocking" than advertised. Not that dead kids and houses made of corpses are everyday stuff, but walking in you expect something more. I liked that it wasn't a gorefest though, when it could've easily veered into that territory.
>Reforming villains through retcon
If you want to make them heroes that's fine but don't try to erase their bullshit. Have the character own up to and live with their past.
>Black Bolt being turned into the scream guy
The man has a frick ton of abilities that are way more interesting and 90% of the time he is just Ultra banshee and also a jobber.
>Heroes turning down help from other heroes.
I can't think of many times were it actually made sense.
>C-lister and below is useless so the A-lister that the can shine.
The struggle of being a fan of a less popular character. Comics have fellating the same motherfrickers for the last forty years and the only time they ease up is fellate legacy clones of those same characters.