prolly won't miss anything because this one also has no cultural impact as the first one and the short period of time people were discussing it, they just discussed box office, instead of plot, characters or details of the movie itself which is telling me everything i need to know
The prohibition seems to refer to sapient beings. Tulkun are sapient. They probably rationalize it the exact same way that humans do. Ya gotta do what you evolved/adapted to do, hey those krill are tiny and don't even have brains, they must not feel much pain, etc.
Lo'ak's alone time with Payakan is very important. He's the misfit, and so is Payakan. But by establishing a connection with Payakan, Lo'ak still manages to adopt a central Metkayina practice: establishing a special friendship with a Tulkun. It is because he's done this that the other kids stop fighting and start to respect him a bit, even though Payakan is outcast. They understand the practice all the same.
Also, the location name "Three Brothers Rocks", which has real-life analogues, is clearly used in the story to refer to the changing relationships of brotherhood, involving Neteyam, Lo'ak, Spider, and Payakan. At various points in the story one of these three characters absent, while the other three are present.
Not to mention how Payakan got his brothers killed by attacking the sky people, just like Loak gets Neteyem killed by trying to rescue Spider… pottery.
There's a note of cynicism here, but they have a common enemy and they absolutely refuse to give up on each other. Shit happens. Even Li'l Tuk insists on swimming back and getting kidnapped again to try to help the others.
Yeah I think the movie is just pretending a philosophical conundrum for the viewer to think about. Was Payakan in the right by murdering all those sky people? etc.
"avatar" is just another word for zero cultural impact, like "avatar 2"
Let’s see some movies you probably approve of that arent “a video game.” >Moonlight >Shape of Water >Argo >Slumdog Millionaire >12 Years a Slave
Fricking ass blast liquid diarrhea garbage especially compared to fricking Avatar.
I mean I liked both it proves good non-woke movies can still be made in this day and age but I definitely think the first one caught on more in the cultural zeitgeist like thinking back people really did like the first one and talk about it, the second one not at all but I was surprised how much it did at the box office
Should I actually go back and watch Avatar and then watch Avatar 2. I saw the first when I was like 12 and remember the cool visuals but I remember the plot was pathetic. Don't they like convert the human into an alien or some shit?
Unironically way of water is my favorite movie. Only movie I've been able to get completely absorbed in. I just finished the game too but sadly it was pretty mediocre, but it looked beautiful.
way of water is actually amazing. i hated it when it came out but the cgi was so good i kept popping it back on, then found myself getting sucked in and was happy to see the classic james cameron 3rd act awesomeness
I just finished High Ground and took notes, so I've been through all the comics. I love Avatar so very, very much. I have enjoyed the above-average Avatar posting tonight although as another anon pointed out the familiy is probably in for a good bit of suffering in the third movie which won't be fun. The comics point toward this as well.
imagine what cool, futuristic stuff you could make when having this budget and wanting to depict an alien civilization. and now look at what cameron delivered
i watched the last 30 minutes of this movie in a hotel room while i was druk a few weeks ago. looked cool but the story seemed very run-of-the-mill. i'll take it over DC and Marvel slop though.
>no cultural impact >next one makes 3 billion dollars
I’m glad Cameron is spacing them out and really making them an event. And definitely, if all the subsequent movies retain the same level of quality it will be the greatest movie saga ever. They’re not really competing against anyone either.
>film isn't engineered by a team of 500 Disney marketing employees to make every 5 seconds some sort of marvel movie epic gif moment >somehow a bad thing
>pointless plotline where Jake takes the most moronic decisions over and over for 3 hours till he reaches the obvious conclusion >Zendaya character cries like a b***h constantly and despite having some actions sequences, hating her is inevitable >all the kids are boring as frick, the one that dies was a forgettable as frick and only has a cool funeral sequence, the other one is meh, the little girl is disposable >the hippie shaman has some cool scenes during her "trance" but the whole "mysterious parenthood" feels like a slog >the "monkey kid" is stupid as frick, Spider actor is REALLY bad >the water queen is a b***h and the chief has a cool design but is a fricking pipsqueak >instead of putting the whole riff in jeopardy and the Navi defending the water tree in a "bigger than life" scale while delivering a devastating ecological commentary, the story focuses on whales for whatever reason >the whaling crew has "kids show baddies" vibes >some of the cgi looks amazing, but theres also some awful shots
One one of my latter screenings around March 2023, the room was still reasonably filled with a few dozen people from all walks of life. An older black man chuckled "Lima Charlie!" since he understood the military context, but otherwise he stayed quiet and didn't ruin the movie. Real human beings genuinely like it, Cinemaphile can't stand that fact, and it's glorious.
haven't watched it
not gonna
prolly won't miss anything because this one also has no cultural impact as the first one and the short period of time people were discussing it, they just discussed box office, instead of plot, characters or details of the movie itself which is telling me everything i need to know
whoa did not read, also male children aren’t women, KYS freak
my wife watched in on TV and I half paid attention, it looks pretty bad.
>also has no cultural impact as the first one
aka "It hasn't been ruined by a bunch of cringey lore obsessed frickwads and soulless merchandising"
Avatar is great crowd pleasing entertainment, technological innovation, and relatively devoid of consooomer fandom bullshit.
Take my treatise on the story beats.
The first one was.
Second one sucked.
They both are HOW did the second one suck?
It's the best movie ever made period. Way better than 2001.
Unironically 2001 fricking blows compared to Avatar. Interstellar is way better. 2001 is a reddit pseudfest. Avatar is a much smarter movie.
Yeah I really don't get the hype for 2001. It's really not that great. For the time it came out it was interesting maybe but it hasn't held up.
2001 wishes it looked 1% as kino as this.
>2001 is a reddit pseudfest
when the avatar films are all said and done, it will be the best saga of all time. Calling it now.
It will be hard to top DBZ but it will be a close second I’m predicting.
>It will be hard to top DBZ but it will be a close second I’m predicting.
Magical masterpieces.
I will always love these movies.
%3D
It’s the adventure series of a bygone era. I can’t wait to go back to Pandora bros,
I can’t wait bros.
So we see these whales sucking down fish in their gaping maws, I thought they don’t kill?
>whale’s gotta eat! lol
fair enough
The prohibition seems to refer to sapient beings. Tulkun are sapient. They probably rationalize it the exact same way that humans do. Ya gotta do what you evolved/adapted to do, hey those krill are tiny and don't even have brains, they must not feel much pain, etc.
Lo'ak's alone time with Payakan is very important. He's the misfit, and so is Payakan. But by establishing a connection with Payakan, Lo'ak still manages to adopt a central Metkayina practice: establishing a special friendship with a Tulkun. It is because he's done this that the other kids stop fighting and start to respect him a bit, even though Payakan is outcast. They understand the practice all the same.
Also, the location name "Three Brothers Rocks", which has real-life analogues, is clearly used in the story to refer to the changing relationships of brotherhood, involving Neteyam, Lo'ak, Spider, and Payakan. At various points in the story one of these three characters absent, while the other three are present.
Not to mention how Payakan got his brothers killed by attacking the sky people, just like Loak gets Neteyem killed by trying to rescue Spider… pottery.
There's a note of cynicism here, but they have a common enemy and they absolutely refuse to give up on each other. Shit happens. Even Li'l Tuk insists on swimming back and getting kidnapped again to try to help the others.
Yeah I think the movie is just pretending a philosophical conundrum for the viewer to think about. Was Payakan in the right by murdering all those sky people? etc.
Thank you, Payakan
it's not a film, nothing was filmed. it is a computer generated video game.
"film" is just another word for "movie" like "flick"
"avatar" is just another word for zero cultural impact, like "avatar 2"
>zero cultural impact
that's like 3 words tho
Let’s see some movies you probably approve of that arent “a video game.”
>Moonlight
>Shape of Water
>Argo
>Slumdog Millionaire
>12 Years a Slave
Fricking ass blast liquid diarrhea garbage especially compared to fricking Avatar.
>he must exult thirdies if he dislikes Avatar
>somehow missed Avatar being the biggest blowjob to thirdies since fricking Dances With Wolves
no clue what this unhinged troonery is supposed to mean, KYS
Are you physically incapable of not sounding moronic?
Wasn’t Oppenheimer shot on film? What a piece of trash that was.
I've seen the first one a couple times but it's pretty forgettable, no wonder they had zero cultural impact
One of the few times I ever walked out a theater....and that was with me movie hopping lol
Terrible movie. Cameron must've hired those Jason Goes to Hell writers for his dialogue.
Dialogue is the best part. Maybe Joss Whedon movies are more your speed.
>Dialogue is the best part.
Okay so you're baiting.
Which bits of dialogue didn’t you like? I do not understand.
Did we watch the same movie?
I mean I liked both it proves good non-woke movies can still be made in this day and age but I definitely think the first one caught on more in the cultural zeitgeist like thinking back people really did like the first one and talk about it, the second one not at all but I was surprised how much it did at the box office
Should I actually go back and watch Avatar and then watch Avatar 2. I saw the first when I was like 12 and remember the cool visuals but I remember the plot was pathetic. Don't they like convert the human into an alien or some shit?
Yes? What kind of dumb question is that. What was the last thing you watched out of curiosity?
Unironically way of water is my favorite movie. Only movie I've been able to get completely absorbed in. I just finished the game too but sadly it was pretty mediocre, but it looked beautiful.
way of water is actually amazing. i hated it when it came out but the cgi was so good i kept popping it back on, then found myself getting sucked in and was happy to see the classic james cameron 3rd act awesomeness
both films are mid
carried by the visuals
I just finished High Ground and took notes, so I've been through all the comics. I love Avatar so very, very much. I have enjoyed the above-average Avatar posting tonight although as another anon pointed out the familiy is probably in for a good bit of suffering in the third movie which won't be fun. The comics point toward this as well.
When will they make me an Avatar of a Tulkun so I can swim with the other whales?
imagine what cool, futuristic stuff you could make when having this budget and wanting to depict an alien civilization. and now look at what cameron delivered
i watched the last 30 minutes of this movie in a hotel room while i was druk a few weeks ago. looked cool but the story seemed very run-of-the-mill. i'll take it over DC and Marvel slop though.
It was fricking amazing.
I didn't care for the Sea Dragon or the new helicopters at first but they've grown on me.
I liked the crabmechs and subs
>no cultural impact
>next one makes 3 billion dollars
I’m glad Cameron is spacing them out and really making them an event. And definitely, if all the subsequent movies retain the same level of quality it will be the greatest movie saga ever. They’re not really competing against anyone either.
>still not a single famous moment that even people who never watched the movies are aware of
the cameroongays' cope is real
>film isn't engineered by a team of 500 Disney marketing employees to make every 5 seconds some sort of marvel movie epic gif moment
>somehow a bad thing
Yes someday Jake Sully will be the most well known and beloved protagonist of all time
>pointless plotline where Jake takes the most moronic decisions over and over for 3 hours till he reaches the obvious conclusion
>Zendaya character cries like a b***h constantly and despite having some actions sequences, hating her is inevitable
>all the kids are boring as frick, the one that dies was a forgettable as frick and only has a cool funeral sequence, the other one is meh, the little girl is disposable
>the hippie shaman has some cool scenes during her "trance" but the whole "mysterious parenthood" feels like a slog
>the "monkey kid" is stupid as frick, Spider actor is REALLY bad
>the water queen is a b***h and the chief has a cool design but is a fricking pipsqueak
>instead of putting the whole riff in jeopardy and the Navi defending the water tree in a "bigger than life" scale while delivering a devastating ecological commentary, the story focuses on whales for whatever reason
>the whaling crew has "kids show baddies" vibes
>some of the cgi looks amazing, but theres also some awful shots
This is one of the most artificially hyped IPs ever
One one of my latter screenings around March 2023, the room was still reasonably filled with a few dozen people from all walks of life. An older black man chuckled "Lima Charlie!" since he understood the military context, but otherwise he stayed quiet and didn't ruin the movie. Real human beings genuinely like it, Cinemaphile can't stand that fact, and it's glorious.
Heh, I think you posted this on one of the gennies. Nice to see you again, Avafren
inspiring?
it's trite and boring as frick
WHO THOUGHT MONKEY BOY WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR FRICKS SAKE
They're nice looking but I really think that's it, the praise these movies get on here is really confusing to me
watching this turned me into into an environmentalist but i'm lazy so i'll just continue to shitpost instead of mail bombing
if you are a homosexual liberal maybe