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Never heard of it
they remade smurfs but real?
Yes and a sequel called The Way of Puddle
>bots don't know what I'm getting at
Wrong ! Netty is the best looking male Navi, but he isn’t stupid
'etty in the 'log
What does the cummerbund do
male omaticaya wear it to show that they're adult men.
Interestingly Jake and Netty remove theirs when they integrate into the Metkayina because they've not done the reef clan rites of passage yet
kinooooooo…..
For me, it's Lo'ak.
It lets you frick blue tummies.
Fascinating. How old do they have to be to recieve the cummberbund?
Look gay AF, like he's wearing a top below his nipples
It bunds his cummer, what does it look like?
Sexo..........
NEEETTTTTTYYYYY WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DIE :‘~~*~~*~~*
I want him back bros
The wrong son died.
Lo'ak is cool. Jake just disliked him subconsciously because Lo'ak is so much like him that it was unpleasant to recognize those traits in him he doesn't like in himself. Made even worse that Lo'ak looks almost exactly like Jake's avatar, instead of a "perfect wonderboy" that his older son was.
Read The High Ground. It's an alternate take on Way of Water and he survives the events of that story.
Currently reading the original screenplay for little differences brehs. It seems that Max was not originally a pajeet(?)
>Read The High Ground
I did, as they released. The problem is that they suck, but you're right Netty does survive
Who wrote these are they kino?
I recently went through them. There's a few nice parts but they're not great honestly. Adapt or Die is easily the worst of the bunch. I liked Tsu'tey's path the best because it coincides with the first movie and it gives reasonable explanations for Tsu'tey's actions beyond mere love triangle/cuckoldry.
Each book has a group of 3-5 nobodies working together to do story, art + lettering. The best art overall is in the first half of High Ground V. 3, it's much more expressionistic than the rest.
I’m an avatargay. Would I enjoy them or would these tickle my autism by contradicting the lore in the movie and shit.
Adapt or Die, Tsu'tey's Path and Next Shadow can all be accomodated to the films and don't contradict anything in any meaningful way. High Ground is an alternate script idea for the second movie but it has MANY of the same story beats as WoW, just permuted to different times and with slightly different settings in some cases.
The back cover blurbs for High Ground advertise it as happening right before the events of Way of Water, but this simply doesn't make any sense, precisely because it's a draft version of the film.
All of them are noncanon trash don't bother. Unless Tsu'tey is your blorbo or something.
thank God I have no clue what you mean
The people that say that are basically signalling their fear of the movie’s message
Did you photoshop his knife handle into a dick?
I had to open my copy of the movie and can confim that its real. They put dicks in Avatar ha.
it's subliminal messaging, normalgays love gobbling this stuff up
I've never seen any of the Avatar movies; are they worth seeing if I can't watch them in 3d?
I'm an avatar nut but the 3D is in fact the most important thing. Once I watched the sequel in 3D four times I hung it up, I knew there's no point in seeing it in 2D in the theater (learned that the hard way first time around, screenings numbers six and seven were the 2D ones).
>captcha: KYS2GS
hey that's not nice
I don't think they're horrible movies, but it's 3d in theaters or there's no point
Avatar is so stupid lol just bomb them from low orbit, you don't even need explosives like literally just fly up rocks and toss them
They have pr to take care about, you fricking idiot. An orbital strike on a native population who hunt with bows and arrows will cause a giant scandal back on Earth and RDA is a private company that has to maintain a good image to the public and to investors.
Who's going to tell Earth? RDA controls the information flow.
1. Leaks
2. The board has to authorize something like this and there's no way they will do it, they can't just genocide the natives.
Total comm blackout = no leaks.
This is so stupid it's not even worth replying to
And yet here you are. Heaven is vast and the Emperor far away.
just engineer a massive terrorist attack and you can do with them whatever you want to
na'vi live in tiny clusters centered around their hometrees/villages. They don't have big cities you can bomb from orbit and good luck convincing the corporate bosses that spending decades nuking the planet from orbit is the best strategy
you obviously only nuke the parts where they're in the way, and whatever rabble assembles at the impact site afterwards
>a bunch of treehuggers will cry about it for a week
whoopeedoopee, guess what, it means nothing if it's profitable
Like bombs are expensive. Just nuke the fricks and have your construction crews wear HAV suits.
It's the rarest material in the galaxy required for human expansion and defense. You now know aliens exist in the galaxy, so you better be prepared when you run into aliens more advanced than you are. You're letting the fate of your entire species be determined by a few hard headed moronic natives that refuse to negotiate and refuse to learn.
You get to be the idiot that has to explain to your own species why they are completely unprepared for whatever horrors are out there in space because you didn't want to harm some worthless species.
You're using technology today created by conquers that were unafraid to do what they had to do to get the resources to further civilization. Mankind turned into a bunch of fricking b***hes.
Yes, yes, you're very smart, and james cameron is very dumb for not making the movie do what you say. They totally should destroy this pristine paradise and the only other habitable planet they've found which they now want to colonize, but are going to destroy instead. Is that what you wanted to hear? Now frick off.
No, james cameron is fine. You're the fricking idiot for eating this garbage up. The main character refers to his own people as " The Sky People" for frick's sake.
Science and progress. That's all that matters. Not your homosexual shit.
>3 billion dollar blockbuster needs footnote to explain to readers what it is, barely a decade after it came out
wow, thats grim
Even Harry Potter got a footnote in that book. It doesn't mean shit
>I got Avatar 3 here! Director's Cut, $20! Come and get it!
I loved all the characters in this movie.
The zoomer niglets with broccoli hair were a bit forced.
This, I couldn't take the one with the zoomer hair seriously. I was expecting him at one point to say something like "that's cringe, fr fr" or some other stupid shit.
That's how they all talked
I agree but that guy wasn’t really a character did he even have a speaking role?
Idk, but I can forgive Jimbo for this insignificant crap as long as he keeps destroying capeshit. Way of Water felt like a breath of fresh air, ironically. I was beginning to think that the original scifi times were completely over and we only had more mcu to suffer from.
😀
>the mighty Loak, faced the killer Tulkun and lived to tell about it
lol
It almost makes me angry how shit the writing was, Netty is dead because he had shit parents that let his kids go on crazy adventures while they were being hunted
>Lo'ak is going to be the narrator in Avatar 3
Is he our new central protagonist? Looks like another time jump is in order.
Really? I already thought there wasn’t quite enough Gagezuuli in 2 already. Not that I didn’t like Lo’ak.
Jim has confirmed it already. He also compared his movies to Godfather in terms of how it is a multi-generational saga about the Sullies
Whatever I trust him.
KIINOOOOOOOOO
I know, it is honestly silly to still doubt James Cameron in 2024. But I guarantee there will still be people doubting him during the final 6 months before the premiere.
Dude. I don’t really have anything to say other than imagine how sick Avatar 3 is gonna be, it’s gonna be absolutely fricking wild. Cannot wait.
There's supposed to be a big time skip in Avatar 4, that's why he filmed a chunk of 4 alongside 2 and 3, that's presumably before the timeskip.
I'm kind of expecting Jake to not survive either 3 or 4.
I only watched it for hot boys. The rest of the film was a snoozefest. Cameron is a horny hack.
Preach it brother. I first realized I was gay during a bowel movement one day.
>I shat such a large loaf, I just wish I could shit that loaf again.
>So I tried it.
>It was gross at first, but the stool was so firm it didn’t break apart when I lifted it out of the toilet bowl.
>My ass was empty, but I clenched it as hard as I could as if I was trying to have a bowel movement.
>This opened my ass just wide enough for me to begin to snake the stool back inside.
>It was cold haha! But it warmed up the further up it went.
>I sneezed and my ass cut the stool in half and it plopped back into the toilet water.
>I realized then why it was relatively easy to re-insert the stool, it was the toilet water.
>The water was a rancid greenish brown, but I figured all this was just in my body moments ago, so it was clean enough that I probably wouldn’t get sick if it went back inside me.
>The pinched loaf went in easier than the first half.
>At this point, I REALLY have to poop haha, but I endure.
>The entire length was inside me again, I can feel the heat returning as my body’s energy warms the waterlogged logs.
>I release…
I bought my first dildo and downloaded grindr that day. True story. Avatar sucks.
remember tukposting?
I bet they taste like blueberries
Maybe I should watch these movies after all
Netty doesn't look like that
well nevermind then
Sexy belly button.
I want to suck on his blue nipples
i'm not even gay but i'd 110% suck him off.
> Spider - "I have to get an Avatar"
> Norm - Ok, we'll just grow one in the lab"
I'll be so salty if our Monkey Boy doesn't get an avatar at some point. He was born on Pandora, speaks the language natively and knows no other home. He needs an avatar way more than Norm needs his.
Nope. But Kiri will become human.
Never doubt Jim
Any reason why Eywa won’t upload norm into his Avatar? Or does Norm just wanna stay a person.
I guess in war it’s good to have an avatar because that’s like another life.
I think outcome of the ritual is way too uncertain to just do it on everyone. Remember, we only saw it twice and in one of them Eywa needed Grace for something so she didn't let her consciousness leave and kept her for something that only Eywa knows. We as an audience know that Grace still can be extracted into a body if Eywa allows it, but from everyone else's perspective the chance of successful transfer is 50/50. Way too risky.
One thing that I haven’t heard anyone talk about is how the humans basically invented Eywa in tech like MechaGodzilla. What I’m saying is the same processes that link the avatars to their drivers is the same as whatever links all the animals and plants on pandora together.
because norm have a relationship with a female na'vi that like both blue and white wiener
I thought Norm had some Na'vi kid in the comic calling him "dad"? I don't know if he adopted an orphan or my dude finally got himself an interspecies booty call of his own.
>Never doubt Jim
He'll get an avatar in exchange for betraying the na'vi.
Spider wants to be a Navi figuratively as well as literally. If he betrays them, getting an avatar would be pointless if they disown him over it
A leak reveals that he somehow grows a Navi queue and can start breathing Pandoran air
Eywa going to resort to painful body transformation to get the humans to love her
In theory the RDA should be capable of this seeing as they're already able to produce Na'Vi human hybrid clones.
Why do half-measures when a regular Avatar is superior on Pandora in every way possiible?
Because the RDA is trying to fully colonize Pandora now, and it'd be cheaper to modify actual people than to create full avatars for them all.
It's pretty obvious that they're going to set up atmospheric processors (i.e. THE EXACT SAME THING THAT THEY DID IN ALIENS
Considering that all you need to break up CO2 (the reason humans can't breathe on Pandora) is lots of energy, that would be pretty easy since fusion power seems to be a well understood technology in the setting.
That's the main thing but it isn't the only thing. The atmosphere of Pandora is also rich in Xenon. Learn about Pandoran planetary/(moon?) science!
You can only get away with wasting billions in equipment (and dozens of lives) if you actually get decisive/existential results. Quaritch did not.
That's the main thing but it isn't the only thing. The atmosphere of Pandora is also rich in Xenon. Learn about Pandoran planetary/(moon?) science!
I have. In fact, the most deadly part of the atmosphere is the unusually high concentration of hydrogen sulfide, which is the main reason that humans will choke out within a few breaths. Xenon is an inert noble gas and while not breathable, wouldn't cause nearly as fast a negative reaction if breathed in.
Based researcher ready with a good retort
I just want to say that I love all my avafrens very much. That is the power of Avatar. Oel Ngati Kameie Tsmukan
mawe matsmukhan
NTA but I don’t know what you’re trying to say.
>Why don’t humans eradicate all life on Pandora?
Yeah sure they could but is that in their best interest? The frick are you talking about they’re not trying to wipe out the Navi in war at all costs which they could but why would they that’s moronic. Scorch every forest and ecosystem with bombs and the Navi die out and so do the whales and everything else they’re trying to exhume from pandora. PLUS humanity is trying to live on Pandora as a new home world so they definitely don’t want to nuke and destroy it in any way.
That's weird but after everything that happened in Avatar 2 I think Spider wants to abandon his human self however possible, maybe Neytiri won't try to kill him anymore
Neytiri was really angery in 2.
She was in heat and majake was too busy dicking around with his barracuda bros to give her any.
Also there were a bunch of corpo goylem hunting her family and colonizing her homeland.
MaJake would never deny Neyney sex, especially not after they lost Netty
what was Cameron thinking ?
Straight white male thoughts
Do they even have the technology to create one there? They were created on Earth and grown during the journey to Pandora.
They must because Norm's Avatar dies in the first one and he's got a new one at the start of Way of Water.
Did it die though? It may have just been enough of an injury to break his connection, and they could patch the avatar body up.
Why was the story so shit?
That dude spent a decade doing CGI shit but couldn't find a writer worth anything?
>where’s the twists and flash forwards and subversions and adultery??????? IT’S NOT israeli ENOUGH
it’s a fun adventure movie about these characters going through struggles and overcoming them, why does the story have to be more than that?
I love how people complain all the time that there is nothing but capeshit and remake coming out, then we have a rare genuine new sci-fi adventure IP and people still complain. At least it's way, way better then current day Star Trek/Wars
The only people complaining are literal reddit trannies furious that their demented techno-religion suicide cult is incompatible with the themes and message of Avatar.
Troons can’t even exist without the fires of industry churning and burning 24/7 dumping poison into the ocean manufacturing all the stupid shit they need that shouldn’t even exist like antipsychotics, hormones, dildos, cosmetic dick surgery equipment, etc.
Cinemaphile likes it
normies like it
lefty psychos hate it because it completely contradicts their ideologies
you are shit
The lack of Tuk porn proves that this movie failed
In a non-coomer way why did they give Neytiri such a fat ass in this movie? Mommy bubble butt from all the pregnancies?
Neyney has pretty much the same build in both movies
No she’s plumper and they gave Jake a dad bod.
imaginf naynay squatting on your face
There was a lot of lingering shots of her pooching out her ass in Way of Water. Was really kino because in the first one they were really conservative with the fan service, which is good and makes a more dignified film but in Way of Water it’s still conservative but there’s like 2 or 3 instances of a nice prolonged look at Neytiris enlarged ass. Thank you Jim.
please post some
https://movie-screencaps.com/avatar-the-way-of-water-2022-4k/page/1
here’s one, I just got a migraine from going through all 7,000 frames to get to this
you're right Neyney has a really nice ass in this shot
Wow, definitely more meat on her ass than in the first film
imagine being Jake and getting to prone-bone that every night
>@194651225
You know this was some utter bullshit parrot deal when suddenly EVERYONE starts chirping out the same term they have never leveled at a film before in their life. Sometimes people just want to go see a cool movie at the cinema and go home. They don't need to make it their life. Top Gun was the same.
>Top Gun
iceman has become a fricking meme kys
Top Gun Maverick you fricking idiot. The movie that did gigantic numbers because it was just a good time at the movies.
riding on the coattails of the original as a competent sequel
>Top Gun (1986) gross: $357.3 million
>Top Gun: Maverick (2022) gross: $1.496 billion
Some pretty frickin long coattails bro.
I didn't expect this movie to have such a big fujo following
People shouldn't like them, because... what? They should be lukewarm about enjoying everything? Or better yet they should gawk at some actual media like capeshit
I don't even know why you responded to me. I was mocking the "muh cultural relevance" talking point every moron was suddenly parroting, as if they've ever demanded that for another film other than Avatar 2.
rare abatap 2 Mo'at
*hiss*
luv Tuk
Her reacting to the tip of my penis edging closer and closer
Post Zoe and Sam rehearsing in the jungle please. You know which webm I'm talkiing about
don't have that one
What is it about her that makes everybody cast her in main roles in such prominent, high budget films? She's objectively very pretty, but she's not nearly in the same tier as prime Connelli or Bellucci. She's a good actress that occasionally has streaks of greatness in her acting, but she has no attraction to her name and seem to be leading a quiet family life with no drama by Hollywood standards.
By no attraction to her name I mean that not many people will see "Zoe Saldaña" in a trailer or on a poster and will say: "Holy shit, Zoe Saldaña is in this movie, I have to see it now!"
My only guess is that she must be fantastic to work with on set and probably has drama-free, diva-free attitude and generally is a very chill, easy to work with person. Right attitude can get you very far.
I've heard she's a good worker and does her job well without any drama.
I find her performances mediocre outside of avatar though
She was pretty good in Haven (2006), one of the first movies I saw her in
Damn, it was a 2004 movie even
she loves those white boys
>we're casting an actress for an interra--
>Ms Saldana is already pregnant with the lead actor sir
She also probably is one of the few actresses who is okay with not having her actual face be in every production she's always in heavy costume/CGI
Lots of actors want to show off how well they can act by making sure their face is shown a lot (think why Pedro Pascal hates Mandalorian or the guy who plays John Halo in the Halo show)
An actor/actresses' absolute favorite thing in the whole wide world is to have their face known to the world. Actors love love love close-up shots of their real faces (or having production photos taken of their stage work). This is true for pretty much all actors/actresses. If you have some weird movie involving puppets (Marquis comes to mind) or people wearing full costume obscuring their faces the entire time, it can be a little tricky to find actors/dancers willing to do it who have the other skills needed.
Fortunately, the tech for Avatar is such that it retains essential aspects of a person's real face, so that blunts the problem somewhat. Ed Norton wanted to play a Na'vi, but they only wanted him to play a human character so Norton turned it down.
Harry Dean Stanton was already an old man when Alien was filmed. In the original cut, there's a scene that's just an extreme close-up of Harry's face as he wets his face and just mugs for the camera for like 40 uninterrupted seconds. When he saw the premiere, Harry was super happy about this shot of himself and personally thanked Ridley for including it.
I have no clue what Neytiri actress looks like.
Shouldn't that cat be gagged?
I miss seeing this movie in theaters, I saw it like 9 times.
A rare, clearly unfinished shot.
VERY rare Tsu'tey
QRD?
Loak is the least interesting character and this homie is trying to make that a main character
Sometimes I wonder what abatap is up to and if he liked way of water
Honestly frick him for not ever chiming in. It would be wild if the countdown guy was abatap. Was his trip compromised?
discord thread
Yeah for some reason trannies despise Avatar with a hideous passion so they always show up to try to derail the threads.
wtf all the space ships in the movie were real?
He's James Cameron, not George Lucas
he made lots of things for real
The guy has pure passion for this craftsmanship. He's a billionaire and could've been just hanging at some private island with mushrooms, weed and women doing nothing for the rest of his life. Instead he keeps working on his passion project he's had since the 90s and refuses to make compromises.
It’s honestly sad that the excellent set design of Avatar is never acknowledged, but instead it’s said it has only ‘nice Graphics‘.
>my POV after speaking for the first time in two hours at the Christmas family gathering
Hi, can you stop being me? Thanks.
I need some advice. Theres a really friendly stray cat outside my apartment that i would take in but i live in a studio and already have a cat. Theres nowhere i could separate them if i brought it in and its getting cold here. The most i could do was put some dry food and water out with a little box with a blanket in it. I feel really shitty about this whole situation is there anything i can do to help this cat in any other way? I just dont want to leave it out there but im hoping the shelter i gave it will keep it warm. I hate this shit its so depressing i just dont know if its sick or if it and my cat will fight if i take it in. I dont have anyone to ask about this this is a serious post
navi are not cats
I enjoy Avatar.
Hey, cool it with the antisemitism.
Hey, cool it with the anti-jewmetic remarks.
budding navi breasts
>
>Siggy is 74
>Jimbo is 69
He better hurry up a bit, before she gets too old to play Kiri or gets sick and dies randomly. I love Siggy, don't get me wrong, but she's getting up there in age and by the time Avatar 5 comes out she'll be pushing 80
I watched 2 on a whim recently and was shocked at how completely fricking dumb the entire movie was.
I genuinely think only the biggest morons enjoy this slop.
How was it dumb? Because it made more money than your gay MCUshit or whatever you watch?
>Make demands while having hostages as leverage
>They ignore your demands and kill your men as you do nothing
>Make demands again while having hostages again
>They once again ignore your demands and you do nothing
>AGAIN you have hostages and demands
>Once again you do nothing as they slaughter your men
lol, how about
>I'm being chased and they will kill everyone to get to me...
>I know, I'll leave my tribe to fend for themselves, and go to another tribe instead!
You are genuinely fricked in the head if you liked this movie.
Well call me Cypress Hill, because I’m Insane in the Membrane.
The whale saved the hostages you shithead, and yeah it did cross my mind that the bad guys might visit their home tribe to find out where he went lmao
It's literally irrelevant. In a world that isn't moronic he would have shot the children dead the instant he captured them for a third time. And the funny thing is he would have been justified. That's how fricked this movie is.
Why would he kill them when he’s still trying to lure the guy.
Straight-up payback for the damage done by that point, which was quite significant.
Because Jake failed to listen to his demands three times in a row.
You take hostages for leverage. If there's no leverage then there's no point for hostages. And if the guy refuses to listen to your demands and then kills your own men, then yeah, the kids deserve to be killed.
And you might be saying... that's moronic. Correct! The movie is moronic.
Jake has already lost a kid by that point, you really think he wouldn't cooperate?
Ok, since we know that Grace's avatar is still available and just remains in stasis in its pod, then we can be pretty confident that we have a Chekov's gun here, right?
I mean, why did they keep it just floating in liquid if nobody is going to use it? Kiri doesn't have a need for it since she doesn't have a human body and there's nobody else who could drive it, since avatars only fit to people who share its genetics like Jake and Tommy.
Would it be crazy to assume that at some point Grace could come back from the "Matrix" and Eywa will finally upload Grace' consciousness into her avatar's body? Not right now, since Eywa obviously needs her for something, but somewhere in the future.
I'm assuming this because if Cameron wanted for Grace to remain dead with no possibility of returning to the physical world, he could simply have the avatar buried along her human body in a beautiful symbolic ritual. Yet he didn't do it. Thoughts?
Grace's consciousness is already inside Kiri. And Kiri likes to keep her around so she can visit her "mother"/old body.
If Kiri had her consciousness then she would've had her memories too, which she doesn't have. She's not Grace, she is Cameron's Neo and she's beginning to believe.
Wrong. Eywa obviously wasn't able to get all of Grace out before she died and into the Avatar in time. She could only get Grace's soul out, then the best she could do was to put it inside Grace's womb as a new child. That's very obvious from the movies.
Grace didn't have superpowers so I would wager she is both a reincarnation of Grace and a physical incarnation of Eywa.
We still see other active Avatars in the first act, just as we see the basketball players and a few other figures in the first movie. But they aren't developed as characters, we focus on the Jake and Ney relationship in that one, with Grace and Norm being the assistants.
One thing I'd like to see in the third movie is development of other AVATAR drivers specifically. The Omatikaya still have to ward off attacks and going back to them for part of the picture (not all of it) would be a good point to develop such characters. There's lots of characters now who are "part human, part Na'vi" in one sense or another. Let's have more of that, because it goes to the central conflict.
like Norm?
Norm is fluent in their language and way of life. I'd say he can consider himself a well integrated migrant at the very least.
I want to see Norm with cute Na'vi girlfriend. And Eywa transfer him into his avatar
Get Norm to hook up with Ikeyni, dude deserves to win at last.
I like how Norm continues to run ops with the horse clan, he cut his teeth on that and he's good at it. Everyone has their part to play in order for an op to work.
Would have been good to show him and Trudy canoodling in the original, would clearly explain why he's relaxed. When Norm is balancing in Jake's chair, it's a clear indication that they've become friends and Jake trusts Norm with a piece of gear that he really needs. It's a big change from that NASTY nerd incel scowl that Norm has on his face at the start of the second act as Jake just waltzes in and gets the glory.
>It's a big change from that NASTY nerd incel scowl that Norm
I know you're not being serious, but still. Norm seething at Jake and his jealousy are very much understandable. I'd be pretty mad if I had to spend who knows how many years researching the planet and its people, learning their language to the point of fluency, learning their customs and getting picked out of who knows how many canditates to spend five years in a cryo sleep just to be upstaged by a former marine who's dumb as a rock (at a first glance) in what seems like a complete accident. Jake doesn't present himself well at first too, showing disinterest in the planet and behaving like a fricking jarhead, this doesn't help his relationship with Grace and Norm at all. When they realize that under this marine facade there is actually a curious and open-minded individual they mellow out a lot.
I am being serious about how he looks in that shot, I'm just using contemporary terms to describe it. Leaving aside all the legit reasons and plot/story motivation, Norm is simply a pissed-off nerd in that moment and he looks it. A moment later Jake alpha flexes on him about the woman taking interest in him. It seems at this point like these guys aren't gonna like each other.
Yes, it does look like an incel jealousy if you don't know what is actually in Norm's head. That's why I hope that Jim releases an actual Director's Cut with all those unfinished scenes included.
Ikeyni is for me.
I would like a backstory that explains why they have breasts but no nipples.
>the film is bad!
>I have random scenes to recite bits of and this character didn't act like an objective automaton at all times and blah blah blah
>the film is good!
>characters didn't need to make obvious decisions, and in fact needed to go out of their way to do the dumbest things possible.
This is just no u, except it's now completely nonsensical because you're still blabbering about your own posts but ascribing it to others.
>I don't understand the points being made so I win
Figures that would be the case for a guy that enjoyed this movie. You unironically sat through 3 hours of this slop and didn't see the holes in every crevice of the writing. You are really really fricking dumb, genuinely.
>just execute valuable hostages bro
Yeah I bet Quaritch took Jake destroying that guy’s whaling boat really personally.
>Quaritch goes on a redo of Jake's journey in the first film
Didn't expect that, right from his first scene he's paralleling Jake's first Avatar test.
dude the expression he makes when he’s like
>Jake Sully did it the hard way?
then hands off the gun to Wainfleet is absolutely kino, this whole movie is facial expression kino
Also loved the scene where he finds his own dead body. Lots of complicated feelings and implications there that I presume will not become clear until we see where he goes in the future films.
I think the blue "Quaritch" crushing the skull of the real Quaritch made it perfectly clear that he won't stay just a copy of a dead man and will find himself on Pandora and will forge his own path.
There’s no way these permanent Avatar beings aren’t gonna join the Navi, right? They can’t even breathe human air, how are they going to have a life and be apart of society outside being tools of war? How much are they getting paid?
They won't and they must realize at somee pont that they are stuck on Pandora for good and it's the only home they'll ever have.
This is true for Spider as well by the way. He's a boy who was born on Pandora, grew up in a Na'vi society, Na'vi language is as much of a mother tongue to his as English if not more so, he's completely unadapted to the cyberpunk society back on Earth we saw in the first movie, our planet is totally alien to him, ironically. He must find a way to get himself an avatar, he doesn't really have a choice if he wants to have a normal life.
Having an avatar requires a lot of logistic bullshit. Spider would have to be uploaded by Eywa or else he might as well just stay a monkey kid.
Norm seems to be doing well. The only thing we need to now is if they can grow an avatar on their base on Pandora with their limited resources. Put the monkey boy in the link machine and he'll do fine.
Imagine having an Avatar. Your human body would just become unhealthy and sedintary.
Na'vi Quarirch becoming a different person and some identity challenged blade runner hobo would be lame as frick, the people want
quaritch
>character growth is BAD, especially over the course of four movies!
complet identity change plot would be a cheap out not development
the sexy, manipulative and evil ash clan clan leader will convince him that the recoms have no place in RDAs future and he will turn to the outcast ash clan instead
He's already a different person if you didn't notice. He's a Na'vi physically and experiences Pandora in a way the real Quaritch could never do. Just because he has some of his dna and his memories doesn't mean he's the same man, because he's clearly not, which has been said literally in the movie. Imo, Quaritch, Kiri, Lo'ak and Spider are the most fascinating characters because there are multiple ways they could develop with their unique backgrounds and reducing recom "Quaritch" to just a copy of the dead original would be a waste.
This is just me theorizing but after they said the whale goo gives immortality, I kind of think Eywa gives immortality too.
i.e. that actually is Quaritch, his soul is in that body, it’s not just copy, same with Kiri (it’s Grace). Maybe not but I kind of think that’s where this is going and that will be a whole to-do.
With important differences. The whole first movie is Jake's boyish leaps and bounds into manhood, quickly and conveniently passing the various rites of passage which his background has prepared him for. He goes from a cripple whose life has no purpose or meaning (halfway through, his low point in the film) to a ten-foot tall able-bodied warrior chief who flies dragons, has something worth caring about, has friends and gets the cute girl. Avatar is strucutrally designed as the ultimate male wish fulfillment fantasy (free of all physical constraints), just as Titanic is structurally designed as the ultimate female wish fulfillment fantasy (total freedom from all social sanction and social constraints, ability to get chad dick and brag about it years later).
Jake says "I really hope this tree-hugging crap isn't on the final (test)". Later, he EMBRACES THE GROUND around the tree that he prays to and gives Eywa a heads-up. This one action ensures his victory; absent this, he would not have won. HE PASSES HIS FINAL TEST: becoming a tree-hugger.
Jake starts out as a "boy", reacting with boyish glee at everything. Touching all the plants, ignoring the med techs and just running around. His initial reaction to his new body is joy and delight. Quaritch's first reaction is anger and violence (although this is triggered by the sight of other recom bodies). Quaritch manages to get an "evil-colored" dark ikran at the same spot that Jake did, and even starts learning some Na'vi, but the parallels stop around there as Quaritch hangs with humans instead of ever appreciating the world for which he is designed.
Quaritch also compares slightly with the Michael Biehn SEAL character from The Abyss: the latter snaps, but both have implacable (and reasonable) hatred for the aliens.
>hangs with humans instead of ever appreciating the world for which he is designed.
For now
This, Cameron made it very obvious that he has some serious character development in store for "Quaritch". He doesn't really have a choice too, he can't go back to Earth which means that he has to learn how Pandora and Na'vi work, whether he likes it or not.
Could Tarzan frick up an avatar or nah?
Book Tarzan is a fricking beast who can kill a gorilla 1vs1 with just a knife.
Disney Tarzan put that silverback leader in a half Nelson.
>half Nelson
Of course, it's a reference to the original books, Tarzan loves this move.
but could he box with an avatar or would he get BTFO?
he’s pretty fricking fast idk
I saw the first film twice and I don't remember anything apart from the robots and their pilots being attacked by animals.
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"ending credits", derp.
That's hot
How does he fare on Pandora?
Idk. A Navi is way bigger than a predator but predators have all their gear and shit.
And they may not be there to hunt Na'vi anyway, there are a lot of possible hunts on that moon.
with gear he could probably survive for a while. killing most of the Pandoran wildlife wouldn't be hard. same with surviving the elements. against regular civilian n'avi (children, weavers, cooks, artists, mothers etc) with gear I'd say he could probably take out 10-15 with moderate-easy difficulty if done with stealth and not around any camp or hometree.
but keep in mind that one human soldier out of his element in the middle of the jungle was able to outsmart a predator in the first movie.
I think the predator would get beaten with moderate difficulty against any well trained or veteran navi warrior on home turf. despite the advanced gear the home field advantage is huge for the na'vi. he could defeat one thanator but a pack would just overpower him even with the gear. fauna/target size and knowledge of the moon plays a bit role in determining how well he would do.
plus the big thing about predators is their cloaking, na'vi have heightened senses and unless the predator was able to mask his smell or subtle tracks in some other way the cloaking is kinda moot.
my take might be ass or biased since this is a blue thread, but I think I've been logical.
We need an Avatar vs Predator goofy kino
Predator is just Avatar but actually cool.
i need kiri gf so bad bros
For me, it's Tsireya. I never felt much for any navi until her.
It is not oftentimes I agree with a redditor, but this one is spot on. It's indeed somewhat bizarre how Avatar became sort of a mainstream counter culture to MCU and Capeshit in general. These movies ooze sincerity and cleary are a passion project of one of a kind filmmaker.
the whole mcu and dc movies are a bad take on what avatar and in a way the blockbuster genre was about, they they could capitalize by basically making fan service cinema but it doesnt work like that, at least not for a long time
I've seen a lot of the MCU, there's sparks of earnestness here and there but it's too often smothered in worries about seeming not funny or ironic enough. The only property that's consistently earnest there, ironically is one that's heavy on the funny emphasis, the GOTG films, I can tell the filmmaker is genuinely passionate about the material and at least has the skill to get it on screen successfully. Some of the stuff they did with Captain America was surprisingly earnest and straight, like he was indeed an old fashioned boy scout good guy, they played much of his man out of time story seriously (Whedon's take on him was fairly rubbish but luckily he only handled him in two films) and they even ended their big finale film on him getting a happy ending.
Other than than it's pretty barebones in terms of earnest passion, just sort of calculated boardroom products, to say nothing of the DCEU.
I think the most honest film in the MCU was the first Iron Man. Not surprising though, since it it became before MCU was an actual thing. GOTG work as a standalone series, the problem is when everyone in the MCU starts acting like Tony Stark or Starlord, everyone talks in those dumb quips, that get tired really quickly.
Probably the coolest thing in fiction when Quaritch absolutely manhandles this thing with his mobile suit.
it was pretty bad ass
yeah that expression is what I was thinking off and he snarls as he twists the knife
made me shout KIINOOOOO
He really sold all his action scenes, either from being stoic or just putting effort in. I love his pissed off/disgusted look back at the crashed ship after he barely escapes in his mech.
perfect male physique
Currently reading the original screenplay for the first time with youtube ambience playing at low volume.
link me up bro
Here's what I'm rocking:
http://roteirodecinema.com.br/scripts/reader/files/AVATAR_JamesCameron.pdf
plus
youtube seems to be generating other pleasant repetitions of basic themes that run for hours but that's the one I have going atm. The thing loops after a few minutes and now I'm self-conscious of it.
While reading the screenplay I finally see the "moron" word that was subbed out (dude don't use that, you'll lose money or something). Also the extra stuff in the deleted scenes (the drink ritual which suggests Dune). The dance sequence with Ney, never shown in the original, also suggests the critical dance sequence in Titanic. Both dance sequences happen about 60% of the way in.
same, link please
Did you read the 2015 script for ATWOW yet? It's pretty kino also alot of characters' personalities were removed in the movie
The cloning of a Bengal tiger, referred to in the extended opening scenes, foreshadows to the growth of Avatars themselves. In other words,
NA'VI
ARE
CATS
NANC
I heard you're cats
>everyone in air filter masks
Guess he can't afford one either.
I just got to the meme part that isn't fully in the film, neat. Here comes act three.
Neytiri such a tricky girl
Avatar 2 didn't have the magic of the first film. It felt like "Heres another wacky adventure in the avatar world!", like a bad animated series or something.
Oh, that was good. I am happy that there was a good Avatar thread tonight. I think I will watch both movies together soon.
Tonowario
>muh cultural relebance
What a bullshit term. Suddenly every dipshit breaking it out in unison in November 2022. I wonder if they ever said it for another film before that?
No other film before that has had such a massive disparity between profit and cultural impact
The problem is the characters who could honestly name the main villain in these movies if they’re not fans?
Uh huh. Funny how you all apparently had the identical thought, all at the same time.
Avatar 2 made me want to have four children if I ever get married
Is Avatar 3 this year?
It is, brother
December 25th
I thought it was delayed or something.
It was. Dec 19, 2025
ITT: two stinky nerds talking to each other because they dont have any friends irl and worship false cuck father figure james cameron
Imagine cumming all over that blue tummy
Is that a fact?
I only like some of the human vehicles
I gotta be honest Cinemaphile
Despite it being a movie entirely about half-naked aliens, the movie had almost no sex appeal.
Idk. The Na'vi are too lanky or something. They also don't have breasts or dick bulges.
It's like watching a bunch of 9ft tall anorexics.
I don't really blame James Cameron for this, it seems like he's trying, and it's likely the ratings board censors that demand there be zero eroticism, but come on...
They made a 3 hour long movie about people in loincloths boring to look at.
Walker needed more screentime
Neytiri needed to give her more arrows
rare Lo'ak hiss
Very feminine. Do you think Neteyam made Loak his little sissy ?
>Very feminine
he looks exactly like Jake in that shot
No he doesn’t, he even sounds like a girl. Jake never looked and sounded like that
Spider did.
>Lo'ak's bulge
That’s Neteyam
NANC
New Avatar 3 character revealed
The Rock wishes he could be in Avatar