the funny thing is it isnt fatigue
they have no clue what sells. which is the ICONIC heroes. its what the basedboys played with as kids, its what the thirdworlders look up to, its the toys boys can play with without being a giant gay
iron man, thor, spider-man
nobody wants fanfic mexican character
nobody wants minor snarky quipping hero
they want the big guns
that's why spiderman always sells
that's why bamtan always sells
ARGHRGHRGHRJGH
>literally just a team of minor snarky quipping heroes.
Cooper and Pratt carried that those movies. They were well written, it's not a formula good choices have to be made
The thing is, even guardians had stood the test of time. They seem to think you can just make a big expensive movie and people will latch on to the protagonist. It's not like that. All of the big MCU names had survived when there was a new hero coming out every week. They were refined over decades.
You can't just say "here's an ugly Muslim spic" and get the same results.
Wut? Guardians of the Galaxy were a dead franchise IN the Marvel Comics twice. First time they came back in 1990 and were a very very modest title for 3-4 years and then the group was literally DEAD until they brought it back in 2007 virtually completely unrelated to the previous series.
Lighting in a bottle, and incredibly difficult to replicate. It would be like making the New Warriors a household name and billion dollar brand by the end of the decade.
GotG was a success because it debuted when the MCU was at its cultural peak. There was that sense of ‘you have to watch everything to get the most of the Avengers’. That’s why things like GotG and Antman succeeded, they were carried by the popularity of Captain America and Iron Man and the like. And that’s the difference between GotG and the Eternals. By the time the Eternals movie came out, the hype for the MCU mostly died down. Eternals was no longer a must watch like GotG was. Even worse, they fricked up the structure of the MCU, the big Avengers movie that tied everything together, that made shit like Eternals and Shang-chi worth watching, they pretty much delayed that shit for so long that these characters and plot points no longer became interesting.
Guardians felt like Marvel's version of Deadpool. a goofy quipperino movie works set in a universe of generally serious movies with actual consequences and stakes. if every movie becomes a comedy it gets stale. i have no shame in saying i enjoyed the first few years of xmen and marvel but it got old pretty quickly.
And those characters where played by big names. All these new random heroes are played by literal first timer no-names that have 0 star power and nobody gives a frick about them.
Iron Man and Thor were by no means "big guns" pre-MCU. The movies made people care. So they pushed their luck to absurd end with shit like Rocket Racoon and somehow it kept working. Not hard to think that they could make people care about The Eternals or Shang Chi or whatever, given their track record. And honestly, if the movies were any good, massing it could have worked.
>The Eternals or Shang Chi
Nobody would ever care about those fricking characters no matter how "kino" the films could have been. I have nothing against non-whites, but in capeshit, they just don't draw.
Wolverine is the only one that can't get a girlfriend, so naturally he has to be moved universes into the main MCU universe where nobody gets laid in a straight manner.
I hate the fact that they bought these male focused franchises, Star wars and Marvel, just to turn them into more generic feminist girl power crap for little girls and ugly femcels.
Bad movie fatigue + increased prices on everything = less money to hw israelites
the funny thing is it isnt fatigue
they have no clue what sells. which is the ICONIC heroes. its what the basedboys played with as kids, its what the thirdworlders look up to, its the toys boys can play with without being a giant gay
iron man, thor, spider-man
nobody wants fanfic mexican character
nobody wants minor snarky quipping hero
they want the big guns
that's why spiderman always sells
that's why bamtan always sells
ARGHRGHRGHRJGH
>iconic heroes
Both iron man and captain america was on the fricking c-team before the mcu made them big. It was the consistency of the mcu that made it what it was, now it’s all gone to shit and bringing back characters won’t change that unless they start producing good quality content again
>22 in 2027 >18 in 2023
I hate zoomers so much, Cinemaphile sisters.
Their entire life will be shitty inshallah
WHAT THE FRICK ARE THEY WAITING FOR? They bought Fox in 2017!
They need the contracts of the actors to run out so they can fill the roles with hispanics and Black folk to kill another franchise
Face it. People want to see White men as the heroes.
People want good stories with good actors and none of the new disney shit as any of them
the main problem is that this is supposed to be content for boys / young men and they are targeting the cool wine aunts for some reason, just like Star Wars.
>Both iron man and captain america was on the fricking c-team before the mcu made them big
Not a comic gay. What even was Marvel's A-team before the MCU? Just Spiderman and Wolverine?
Pretty much yeah, the xmen were also huge for a long time and team up stories like the avengers sold well but iron man and captain america were never big names in the comic world (or I guess cap was a big deal around ww2)
Stuff like the guardians of the galaxy were a really niche thing before the mcu
I remember growing up somewhere without a comic store and the only comics I could find locally were sometimes spider man and sometimes batman or superman and nothing else. I didn’t know any of these characters even existed before the mcu came around
Because nu-marvel is failing miserably... they want to bring back the OGs to actually make some money again.
I'm guessing they'll have to pay RDJ like 50 million dollars+ (per movie) to return though
when even normies show super-hero fatigue, then you know it won't work
It might pull ok numbers on the 1st reunion, but that will be just the deathrattle
They will bring RDJ back just to have him tell you how amazing and wonderful Ironheart is for 2 hours in one final attempt for people to finally accept one of these highschool girlboss characters.
The rumor is they inherited FOX contracts that stated they can't make a new X-men movie with new actors until 2025 so they keep using the old ones until then
Sounds moronic but this is hollywood so it's a real possibility. But they already hired new actors for a dozen X-Men between The Last Stand & First Class. What makes this so different?
They fricked it up so bad. Phase 4 should have been centered around the X-men just like in the comics. Once the Avenger's popularity wanned down what brought Marvel back to life was X-Men. But I kinda understand why they are letting the franchise rest since Fox milked the shit out of it and was only able to produce like 2 decent movies in 20 years. X-men right now is still fresh in people's minds and is synonymous with mediocrity.
It really doesn't help that they keep going member fox xmen with Dr Strange and Deadpool instead of cutting it off and getting the fresh start. Imagine being the guy that has to be the next wolverine after fox spent the last 20 years sucking him off like he is the only xman that exists
X-men were different because they were a metaphor for whatever injustice was socially relevant at the time. But that's not the case anymore, the MCU has lots of new heroes who's whole thing is "I'm a minority". They bring in the mutants and it'll just be more of the same, no one will care.
>X-men were different because they were a metaphor for whatever injustice was socially relevant at the time.
No they weren't. Anyone who tells you the guy who runs around the forest naked murdering people with his boneclaws is a metaphor for homosexuality is moronic.
and she hulk and brown marvel girl and iron heart and the chinese frick with the rings and the immortals and basically fricking everything between endgame and now, yeah
reminder that i haven seen any of the new movies or series becuase i refuse to watch them out of order.
i still need to see the last two spiderman movies but they arent on didnee plus , im too cheap to buy premium chan, and cba to pirate that shit.
i cant believe sony and by extention dc won.
The last 5 DC movies combined made less than one Marvel hit. A Marvel bomb is $225 million domestic while Shazam tops out at $58 Million. Literally night and day unless Batman or Le Bad Clown Man are involved.
Why can't the MCU just fricking die already? Endgame has happened, it's over. Why continue this shit?
Why not actually have someone else adapt the comics instead of Kevin homosexual at this point?
nu-Marvel failed because they fell into the same trap that fricked DC and Universal and all the other would-be cinematic universes, they tried to run before they could walk
Yes, the original Avengers (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, etc.) are more iconic and popular than the current randoms, but more than that, their solo movies were ACTUALLY solo movies. Their stories didn't have to serve as introductions for new characters and launchpads for new storylines. Iron Man 3 was about RDJ dealing with PTSD and he got through it all by himself. Thor 2 and 3 were about Thor and Loki working out their differences. Cap 2 and 3 started to bring in new characters or shared the spotlight, but they still managed to be fundamentally about Cap. He was still the most important character in those.
Now look at nu-Avengers.
Holland Spidey is so uncharismatic he had to pad his own movies with Iron Man, Nick Fury, Daredevil, Venom, and Maguire/Garfield.
Captain Marvel barely even features in the trailers for her "sequel" movie, and is upstaged by the zoomer Paki and Monica Rambeau.
Black Panther 2 brought in black womyn Iron Man and Namor.
Dr Strange 2 had to share with Scarlet Witch and """America Chavez""".
Thor 4 had to share with Guardians of the Galaxy.
And so on. Throughout all these nu-Marvel movies you're constantly being hit over the head with the importance of the multiverse. MULTIVERSE MULTIVERSE MULTIVERSE. The early Marvel movies did not beat you over the head with Infinity Stones or Thanos. They let the stories be their own stories for the most part. Feige has forgotten how to do this. So when nu Marvel tries to do actual solo movies/series (Moon Knight, Eternals, Nick Fury's show) they fall flat, because they can no longer stand on their own. Feige has forgotten what made the early Marvel movies a success. He is officially lost in the sauce
the thor franchise apart from the 3rd one are all sharts.
they padded spiderman with tony because marvel didn't want sony getting too powerful.
Iron Man and Thor were by no means "big guns" pre-MCU. The movies made people care. So they pushed their luck to absurd end with shit like Rocket Racoon and somehow it kept working. Not hard to think that they could make people care about The Eternals or Shang Chi or whatever, given their track record. And honestly, if the movies were any good, massing it could have worked.
in universe they were, they weren't 3rd string self inserts and legacy characters turned leaders for DEI.
They should have rebooted after endgames. Start stories in a new universe/reality with new actors for the favorite characters. Try a darker tone with some, like bring back the alcoholic angle for the new iron man. Bring in an actual dangerous mandarin as an important villain instead of the joke that is hydra or the bullshit skrulls.
I knew this was gonna happen lol.
You can kill popular characters off and replace them but it's just gonna make people want them more.
Same as the comics.
All the big characters have died (some multiple times) and it's always a big bold passing the torch moment with the writers trying to push some shittier version of that character.
But it never sticks
>Captain America gets his age restored. >Well I had the love of my life, and she died. I guess I'll try having a man in my life now, maybe a black man.
They needed to go straight into xmen the moment they were acquired. It's gonna be a fricking decade by the time they actually get a movie and unless they are actually keeping Hugh Jackman and Picard in the new movies bringing them back for guest appearances is moronic
Bringing old characters won't fix the problems caused by Disney's management. They killed Marvel and killed Star Wars in just a couple of years. They killed 2 of the biggest franchises known to man so fricking fast.
I hope it's like Star Wars where RDJ appears at the last frame of the movie, and he just stands there stunned, not speaking. Then we wait a couple years for him to speak, and he's like, no thanks, I'm not wearing any suits. GOODBYE. Then he runs on a treadmill for an hour and drinks green drink from a Jarvis fridge boob spout.
Reading that the MCU will be 20 years old in 5 years is wild.. Imagine having to watch 20 years worth of film and television just to watch the latest superhero movie
You dont really "have to" anymore. Everything after Endgame is mumbo jumbo. The only thing that is related to each other is the Wanda show and dr strange movie. Nothing else is remotely related iirc, and it shows. Also it takes too long between relevant shit so people just forget or stop caring.
they need to kill the multiverse. morons fricked it up so bad so fast its hard to believe. just use it to explain iron man alive again and world changes with new actors replacing old ones and hope people forgive thea bomination this esg propaganda nonsense has become. and hire a fricking single person that knows how to write.
Is there a news of this kind of marketing where they talk about plans nonstop? It's like outrage media, but it's based on nothing verifiable.
New batman in production.
Heavy reshoots after poor testing.
New director brought in to fix mess.
Project scrapped costing several hundred million.
Reboot planned with female batman.
Director: Our plan the whole time was to serve as a bridge to female batman.
Insider says hidden seen would have been the key to the new universe
You can really just make up anything. Especially if you know the real timetable for what the actual plans are. Why not just make up a bunch of shit before then to get clicks for whatever reason?
>Is there a news of this kind of marketing where they talk about plans nonstop? It's like outrage media, but it's based on nothing verifiable
It works for politicians.
Their only hope is to use Deadpool 3 and soft reboot with new X-men as focal. Can even include homosexual tom hollands spidey to get all the morons on board.
>make things people like and have some amount of soul even if it's slopesque >people resonate >turn up the cultural marxism and start making utter garbage that is not good by any regards >people get tired of your israelitery >>j-just wait! We'll reboot it!! That's it! We'll start over!
This is moronic
Dumb.
Take all weight out of the original story.
Just stop forcing annoying minorities and women everywhere, have characters earn their positions and be flawed.
Use Hulk and Thor more, and don't let the cringe Kiwi touch anything
This news furthers my speculation that Feige & company have been winging the whole time. Too many rumors had come out over the years pointing to them having a very loose plan and lucking into most of their plots.
It’s finally coming back to bite them in the ass and after Secret Wars the era of capeshit might actually be over.
>"[Marvel Studios] is aware of what's happening to their brand," she says. "My understanding, having talked to some people, is that 'Quantumania' really shook them, and I'm sure 'Secret Invasion' shook them further, but 'Quantumania' really shook them because they felt like they had something good. Because they all internally thought, 'Everyone's gonna love this.'"
>"And then they put it out and people didn't. And then they were like, 'Oh no, our internal barometer is not attuned to what people want anymore.' With ‘Quantumania,’ they were like, 'We put out a banger.' And then that's not how a lot of people felt."
because to them movies are some moronic algorithm checklist of all the things a "hit" needs to have
if you just have most of the things the formula calls for in the movie, it must be successful
the lesson these morons will take from this is that the movie didn't have enough sassy gay characters or didn't have a big shocking moment at between 40 to 45 minutes or needs a cute but feisty sidekick, etc.
Every single Disney movie from the past 10 years has felt like a bunch of 35 year olds writing movies for themselves using IPs for children. >Lightyear's bizarre time dilation gay marriage alternate universe versions of the protagonist star trek nonsense in a movie for 5 year olds >Rey being obviously designed by 40 year old women for 40 year old women and not for little/teenaged girls thus having 0 true marketability or likeability >MCU becoming a quip irony obsessed millenial cringefest where any genuine moment is ruined by an immediate display of sarcasm >first animated gay movie based on adventure serials from before anyone under 40 was even born
They need to fire every single writer they have, just a deep clean sweep.
That dumbass strange world movie that cost them 200 million dollars when it bombed. It looks totally unmarketable to little kids even excluding the gay shit.
>people seem to like Doctor Strange >let's make our Doctor Strange movie all about some new Hispanic pride dyke and the Scarlet Witch going girlboss mode and squeeze in some multiverse schlock to fit our other movies and oh yeah Doctor Strange is along for the ride
perfect
The rumor has been around quite a while. I think it is partly based on Hickman's Secret Wars comic ending which merges all realities into one Marvel universe. A "soft reboot".
Yeah but Infinity War from the comics has nothing to do with Infinity War the movie. Same with Age of Ultron or Secret Invasion. They're just taking the names and a vague hint of the plot and make something even more dogshit.
they have to reboot because their timeline is so utterly fricked up on account of only having access to like 3 characters when they started up.
reboot should start with fantastic 4 and spiderman and not even frick with avengers as main characters. you could just go ff to spiderman to x-men with the rest of the big characters making cameos in movies or having tv shows. their entire franchise is built around the least interesting characters
>2027
In the meantime, they have a plethora of trash coming out that will continue to reinforce that the brand has turned to shit to the average viewer that already has fatigue due to all the trash they have been putting out.
why wait til 2027
marvel fatigue.
the funny thing is it isnt fatigue
they have no clue what sells. which is the ICONIC heroes. its what the basedboys played with as kids, its what the thirdworlders look up to, its the toys boys can play with without being a giant gay
iron man, thor, spider-man
nobody wants fanfic mexican character
nobody wants minor snarky quipping hero
they want the big guns
that's why spiderman always sells
that's why bamtan always sells
ARGHRGHRGHRJGH
Guardians of the Galaxy was a huge success, and that was literally just a team of minor snarky quipping heroes. They've been chasing that ever since.
>literally just a team of minor snarky quipping heroes.
Cooper and Pratt carried that those movies. They were well written, it's not a formula good choices have to be made
Yeah, that's pretty much my point. The other guy saying it's all about how many toys the character sold in the 90s is missing that.
The thing is, even guardians had stood the test of time. They seem to think you can just make a big expensive movie and people will latch on to the protagonist. It's not like that. All of the big MCU names had survived when there was a new hero coming out every week. They were refined over decades.
You can't just say "here's an ugly Muslim spic" and get the same results.
Wut? Guardians of the Galaxy were a dead franchise IN the Marvel Comics twice. First time they came back in 1990 and were a very very modest title for 3-4 years and then the group was literally DEAD until they brought it back in 2007 virtually completely unrelated to the previous series.
Lighting in a bottle, and incredibly difficult to replicate. It would be like making the New Warriors a household name and billion dollar brand by the end of the decade.
GotG was a success because it debuted when the MCU was at its cultural peak. There was that sense of ‘you have to watch everything to get the most of the Avengers’. That’s why things like GotG and Antman succeeded, they were carried by the popularity of Captain America and Iron Man and the like. And that’s the difference between GotG and the Eternals. By the time the Eternals movie came out, the hype for the MCU mostly died down. Eternals was no longer a must watch like GotG was. Even worse, they fricked up the structure of the MCU, the big Avengers movie that tied everything together, that made shit like Eternals and Shang-chi worth watching, they pretty much delayed that shit for so long that these characters and plot points no longer became interesting.
Guardians felt like Marvel's version of Deadpool. a goofy quipperino movie works set in a universe of generally serious movies with actual consequences and stakes. if every movie becomes a comedy it gets stale. i have no shame in saying i enjoyed the first few years of xmen and marvel but it got old pretty quickly.
>Marvel's version of Deadpool
Deadpool is a Marvel character dumbass
And those characters where played by big names. All these new random heroes are played by literal first timer no-names that have 0 star power and nobody gives a frick about them.
Iron Man and Thor were by no means "big guns" pre-MCU. The movies made people care. So they pushed their luck to absurd end with shit like Rocket Racoon and somehow it kept working. Not hard to think that they could make people care about The Eternals or Shang Chi or whatever, given their track record. And honestly, if the movies were any good, massing it could have worked.
they had their image and their audience. not as big as the others but it was there.
>The Eternals or Shang Chi
Nobody would ever care about those fricking characters no matter how "kino" the films could have been. I have nothing against non-whites, but in capeshit, they just don't draw.
>Iron Man and Thor were by no means "big guns" pre-MCU.
They were second tier for normies. Supes, Batman and Spiderman being the only tier one superheroes
the xmen were up there as well
>X-Men
More like Wolverine and Wolverine only.
Wolverine is the only one that can't get a girlfriend, so naturally he has to be moved universes into the main MCU universe where nobody gets laid in a straight manner.
they can make minor literal who heroes work if they actually make the movies good and cast them well and also work with real directors
I hate the fact that they bought these male focused franchises, Star wars and Marvel, just to turn them into more generic feminist girl power crap for little girls and ugly femcels.
>they have no clue what sells
They know, they would just rather try (and fail) at social engineering.
>they have no clue what sells.
no actually they do. Im willing to bet the next avengers gonna take top records again.
>Brie Larson
>She Hulk
>The asian guy
How can it not?
>Im willing to bet the next avengers gonna take top records again.
I will take you on that bet, and I will take your money when you lose that bet.
Gotta rebuild the hype train. Can’t do that in a few months
Because they are moronic
Bad movie fatigue + increased prices on everything = less money to hw israelites
>iconic heroes
Both iron man and captain america was on the fricking c-team before the mcu made them big. It was the consistency of the mcu that made it what it was, now it’s all gone to shit and bringing back characters won’t change that unless they start producing good quality content again
Their entire life will be shitty inshallah
They need the contracts of the actors to run out so they can fill the roles with hispanics and Black folk to kill another franchise
People want good stories with good actors and none of the new disney shit as any of them
the main problem is that this is supposed to be content for boys / young men and they are targeting the cool wine aunts for some reason, just like Star Wars.
Put wine aunts in charge of a franchise and they'll make it exclusively for wine aunts.
>Both iron man and captain america was on the fricking c-team before the mcu made them big
Not a comic gay. What even was Marvel's A-team before the MCU? Just Spiderman and Wolverine?
Pretty much yeah, the xmen were also huge for a long time and team up stories like the avengers sold well but iron man and captain america were never big names in the comic world (or I guess cap was a big deal around ww2)
Stuff like the guardians of the galaxy were a really niche thing before the mcu
I remember growing up somewhere without a comic store and the only comics I could find locally were sometimes spider man and sometimes batman or superman and nothing else. I didn’t know any of these characters even existed before the mcu came around
So they can have time to pump out more goyslop like She hulk season 2 and the marvels
>SOFT REBOOT! MCU CHADS WE ARE FRICKING BACK!
This makes more sense than any Kang shit. It's a failed premise.
"defeating" kang will trigger the soft reboot
There's 6 of those movies now? why?
Because nu-marvel is failing miserably... they want to bring back the OGs to actually make some money again.
I'm guessing they'll have to pay RDJ like 50 million dollars+ (per movie) to return though
RDJ is 58 years old. I don’t think it would be viable to bring him back for a project as long term as the MCU.
>jarvis, invent computer generated actors
Already scorched the Earth. MCU is dead.
when even normies show super-hero fatigue, then you know it won't work
It might pull ok numbers on the 1st reunion, but that will be just the deathrattle
I will watch the next Spider-Man though as long as it doesn't have Nog Morales
That ship has sailed
I miss the guardians of the galaxy they’ll never be together again it hurts 🙁
They will bring RDJ back just to have him tell you how amazing and wonderful Ironheart is for 2 hours in one final attempt for people to finally accept one of these highschool girlboss characters.
ESG money ran out. You’re never gonna see iron heart again lol
>i will be 22 in 2027
should I just kill myself due to old age?
>22 in 2027
>18 in 2023
I hate zoomers so much, Cinemaphile sisters.
WHAT THE FRICK ARE THEY WAITING FOR? They bought Fox in 2017!
The rumor is they inherited FOX contracts that stated they can't make a new X-men movie with new actors until 2025 so they keep using the old ones until then
Sounds moronic but this is hollywood so it's a real possibility. But they already hired new actors for a dozen X-Men between The Last Stand & First Class. What makes this so different?
Again FOX was making those contracts. They inherited those contracts.
They're stuck because they don't know whether to call it x-men or not or of political correctness.
They fricked it up so bad. Phase 4 should have been centered around the X-men just like in the comics. Once the Avenger's popularity wanned down what brought Marvel back to life was X-Men. But I kinda understand why they are letting the franchise rest since Fox milked the shit out of it and was only able to produce like 2 decent movies in 20 years. X-men right now is still fresh in people's minds and is synonymous with mediocrity.
It really doesn't help that they keep going member fox xmen with Dr Strange and Deadpool instead of cutting it off and getting the fresh start. Imagine being the guy that has to be the next wolverine after fox spent the last 20 years sucking him off like he is the only xman that exists
This. And how are you going to find a man that sucks of fox execs as much as hugh jackman
X-men were different because they were a metaphor for whatever injustice was socially relevant at the time. But that's not the case anymore, the MCU has lots of new heroes who's whole thing is "I'm a minority". They bring in the mutants and it'll just be more of the same, no one will care.
>X-men were different because they were a metaphor for whatever injustice was socially relevant at the time.
No they weren't. Anyone who tells you the guy who runs around the forest naked murdering people with his boneclaws is a metaphor for homosexuality is moronic.
>is moronic.
So comic book writers and marvel execs.
Battleworlds
>NuVengers
>YoungVengers
>OGvengers
>Xmen/Deadpool/FoxVengers
This is getting desperate, capeshit really is dying if Marvel is falling back on its last resort
they need snyder
Feige it's time to make the call. YOUNG AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
i will com for shes
>young
two of those b***hes are in their mid 20s already and can wall at any time
So they pretty much admit that Brie Larson failed at connecting with fans?
Wasn't she or Spider Twink supposed to be the new connecting glue after RDJ? lmao
They tried pushing her as Marvel's new RDJ. Kek.
Wut? No they didn't
and she hulk and brown marvel girl and iron heart and the chinese frick with the rings and the immortals and basically fricking everything between endgame and now, yeah
Face it. People want to see White men as the heroes.
Our heroes shouldn't be men in tights created by israeli authors.
I wonder what internal expectations are for The Marvels?
I wonder if they've essentially written it off by now
reminder that i haven seen any of the new movies or series becuase i refuse to watch them out of order.
i still need to see the last two spiderman movies but they arent on didnee plus , im too cheap to buy premium chan, and cba to pirate that shit.
i cant believe sony and by extention dc won.
The last 5 DC movies combined made less than one Marvel hit. A Marvel bomb is $225 million domestic while Shazam tops out at $58 Million. Literally night and day unless Batman or Le Bad Clown Man are involved.
Reminder nobody gives a frick about you
Good luck.
The movies were hard carried by their cast, and they aren't allowed to cast anyone good without emasculating them
Why can't the MCU just fricking die already? Endgame has happened, it's over. Why continue this shit?
Why not actually have someone else adapt the comics instead of Kevin homosexual at this point?
money? its always money
>AHHH, WHITE PEOPLE PLEASE COME BACK!
No-one cares about capeslop anymore. It's over.
Hate reboot's
nu-Marvel failed because they fell into the same trap that fricked DC and Universal and all the other would-be cinematic universes, they tried to run before they could walk
Yes, the original Avengers (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, etc.) are more iconic and popular than the current randoms, but more than that, their solo movies were ACTUALLY solo movies. Their stories didn't have to serve as introductions for new characters and launchpads for new storylines. Iron Man 3 was about RDJ dealing with PTSD and he got through it all by himself. Thor 2 and 3 were about Thor and Loki working out their differences. Cap 2 and 3 started to bring in new characters or shared the spotlight, but they still managed to be fundamentally about Cap. He was still the most important character in those.
Now look at nu-Avengers.
Holland Spidey is so uncharismatic he had to pad his own movies with Iron Man, Nick Fury, Daredevil, Venom, and Maguire/Garfield.
Captain Marvel barely even features in the trailers for her "sequel" movie, and is upstaged by the zoomer Paki and Monica Rambeau.
Black Panther 2 brought in black womyn Iron Man and Namor.
Dr Strange 2 had to share with Scarlet Witch and """America Chavez""".
Thor 4 had to share with Guardians of the Galaxy.
And so on. Throughout all these nu-Marvel movies you're constantly being hit over the head with the importance of the multiverse. MULTIVERSE MULTIVERSE MULTIVERSE. The early Marvel movies did not beat you over the head with Infinity Stones or Thanos. They let the stories be their own stories for the most part. Feige has forgotten how to do this. So when nu Marvel tries to do actual solo movies/series (Moon Knight, Eternals, Nick Fury's show) they fall flat, because they can no longer stand on their own. Feige has forgotten what made the early Marvel movies a success. He is officially lost in the sauce
the thor franchise apart from the 3rd one are all sharts.
they padded spiderman with tony because marvel didn't want sony getting too powerful.
in universe they were, they weren't 3rd string self inserts and legacy characters turned leaders for DEI.
Sony wanted Iron Man in Spider-Man, that cross promotion was one of the major reasons they agreed to the deal with Disney.
don't u mean he lost the recipe for the secret sauce? wtf does lost in the sauce mean?
They should have rebooted after endgames. Start stories in a new universe/reality with new actors for the favorite characters. Try a darker tone with some, like bring back the alcoholic angle for the new iron man. Bring in an actual dangerous mandarin as an important villain instead of the joke that is hydra or the bullshit skrulls.
Holy shit MCU sucks.
ITT people who didn't get the memo about how capeshit is over and Cinemaphile won
subtle, I like it
Anyone watching Loki? This shit is so bad. It feels like there’s an episode missing between episode 1 and 2.
I knew this was gonna happen lol.
You can kill popular characters off and replace them but it's just gonna make people want them more.
Same as the comics.
All the big characters have died (some multiple times) and it's always a big bold passing the torch moment with the writers trying to push some shittier version of that character.
But it never sticks
>the CHARACTERS are coming back
No shit. The real question is who's playing them.
Pls, RDJ, you can do better than dying cape slop. Don't do it, man. Let them rot.
>do better than dying cape slop
His post MCU movies were terrible though.
He’s almost an old man, he would do it just to get his retirement nest egg together.
You fat fricking israelites with your graphic t shirts, insecurities and comic books.
Fricking losers lol
If they reboot it, there is zero chance that they will they be honest with themselves as to why no one wanted this current stuff.
>Captain America gets his age restored.
>Well I had the love of my life, and she died. I guess I'll try having a man in my life now, maybe a black man.
I JUST WANTED THE X-MEN NOT NEW GAY IRONMAN OR CAPTAIN AMERICA
They needed to go straight into xmen the moment they were acquired. It's gonna be a fricking decade by the time they actually get a movie and unless they are actually keeping Hugh Jackman and Picard in the new movies bringing them back for guest appearances is moronic
>They needed to go straight into xmen the moment they were acquired
They couldn't.
Bringing old characters won't fix the problems caused by Disney's management. They killed Marvel and killed Star Wars in just a couple of years. They killed 2 of the biggest franchises known to man so fricking fast.
How long until we get Gwenpool and Squirrel Girl movies?
maybe when they bring these back and the movie still bombs they will accept it is over
I hope it's like Star Wars where RDJ appears at the last frame of the movie, and he just stands there stunned, not speaking. Then we wait a couple years for him to speak, and he's like, no thanks, I'm not wearing any suits. GOODBYE. Then he runs on a treadmill for an hour and drinks green drink from a Jarvis fridge boob spout.
Drop the whole MCU and just focus on X-Men.
Honestly this. Soft reboot the entire shit and start over but with x-men instead.
Reading that the MCU will be 20 years old in 5 years is wild.. Imagine having to watch 20 years worth of film and television just to watch the latest superhero movie
You dont really "have to" anymore. Everything after Endgame is mumbo jumbo. The only thing that is related to each other is the Wanda show and dr strange movie. Nothing else is remotely related iirc, and it shows. Also it takes too long between relevant shit so people just forget or stop caring.
Point the fingers at Disney Plus. Corporate greed really about to kill the biggest cash cow this industry has ever seen
they need to kill the multiverse. morons fricked it up so bad so fast its hard to believe. just use it to explain iron man alive again and world changes with new actors replacing old ones and hope people forgive thea bomination this esg propaganda nonsense has become. and hire a fricking single person that knows how to write.
Capeshit is for girls.
MCU will never be fun like the comics books
NEVER!
It'll be fun, they just need better characters
>Leave capekino to us
MCU could be completely restored if Captain Marvel got a domineering boyfriend that she was subservient to like a natural hetero relationship.
How did a israeli writer for 4 episodes of Rick and Morty and some Kimmel Live shows get to helm Antman3 and one of the Kang Dynasty Avengers movies?
he's written several marvel and dc comics
He's 35 years old
What fricking comics did he write that are relevant.
>We'll bring back the characters you actually liked, so PLEASE watch our slop again! Israel is at war and we can't count on ESG funds anymore!
Is there a news of this kind of marketing where they talk about plans nonstop? It's like outrage media, but it's based on nothing verifiable.
New batman in production.
Heavy reshoots after poor testing.
New director brought in to fix mess.
Project scrapped costing several hundred million.
Reboot planned with female batman.
Director: Our plan the whole time was to serve as a bridge to female batman.
Insider says hidden seen would have been the key to the new universe
You can really just make up anything. Especially if you know the real timetable for what the actual plans are. Why not just make up a bunch of shit before then to get clicks for whatever reason?
>Is there a news of this kind of marketing where they talk about plans nonstop? It's like outrage media, but it's based on nothing verifiable
It works for politicians.
RDJ is like 80 now.
So was Indiana Jones
If Indi can fly a fridge, RDJ can fly a suit.
yeah and the movie he was in at that age sucked ass
Impossible they do not have the time.
Their only hope is to use Deadpool 3 and soft reboot with new X-men as focal. Can even include homosexual tom hollands spidey to get all the morons on board.
>make things people like and have some amount of soul even if it's slopesque
>people resonate
>turn up the cultural marxism and start making utter garbage that is not good by any regards
>people get tired of your israelitery
>>j-just wait! We'll reboot it!! That's it! We'll start over!
This is moronic
Dumb.
Take all weight out of the original story.
Just stop forcing annoying minorities and women everywhere, have characters earn their positions and be flawed.
Use Hulk and Thor more, and don't let the cringe Kiwi touch anything
Please leave Cap and Iron Man alone, they got a decent ending
So they finally realized that the multiverse shit was a horrible idea
a reboot was necessary regardless. it's the only way to get new people to start watching.
I got your soft reboot, right here.
This news furthers my speculation that Feige & company have been winging the whole time. Too many rumors had come out over the years pointing to them having a very loose plan and lucking into most of their plots.
It’s finally coming back to bite them in the ass and after Secret Wars the era of capeshit might actually be over.
Lmao just like my comic books
But seriously they need to fire Feige. His run is done men fire this homie
They need to get out of Disney.
>"[Marvel Studios] is aware of what's happening to their brand," she says. "My understanding, having talked to some people, is that 'Quantumania' really shook them, and I'm sure 'Secret Invasion' shook them further, but 'Quantumania' really shook them because they felt like they had something good. Because they all internally thought, 'Everyone's gonna love this.'"
>"And then they put it out and people didn't. And then they were like, 'Oh no, our internal barometer is not attuned to what people want anymore.' With ‘Quantumania,’ they were like, 'We put out a banger.' And then that's not how a lot of people felt."
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There’s no way they thought Ant Man 3 was a good movie
This is what's so shocking.
How did a room full of people watch that film and even think it was acceptable, nevermind good?
because to them movies are some moronic algorithm checklist of all the things a "hit" needs to have
if you just have most of the things the formula calls for in the movie, it must be successful
the lesson these morons will take from this is that the movie didn't have enough sassy gay characters or didn't have a big shocking moment at between 40 to 45 minutes or needs a cute but feisty sidekick, etc.
you underestimate just how truly delusional and out of touch these "people" are
It really wasn't much different than most of their movies. More cringy millennial humor but that's about it.
Every single Disney movie from the past 10 years has felt like a bunch of 35 year olds writing movies for themselves using IPs for children.
>Lightyear's bizarre time dilation gay marriage alternate universe versions of the protagonist star trek nonsense in a movie for 5 year olds
>Rey being obviously designed by 40 year old women for 40 year old women and not for little/teenaged girls thus having 0 true marketability or likeability
>MCU becoming a quip irony obsessed millenial cringefest where any genuine moment is ruined by an immediate display of sarcasm
>first animated gay movie based on adventure serials from before anyone under 40 was even born
They need to fire every single writer they have, just a deep clean sweep.
animated gay movie based on adventure serials from before anyone under 40 was even born
What are you talking about?
That dumbass strange world movie that cost them 200 million dollars when it bombed. It looks totally unmarketable to little kids even excluding the gay shit.
>people seem to like Doctor Strange
>let's make our Doctor Strange movie all about some new Hispanic pride dyke and the Scarlet Witch going girlboss mode and squeeze in some multiverse schlock to fit our other movies and oh yeah Doctor Strange is along for the ride
perfect
>Scarlet Witch going girlboss mode
She just wanted her kids back
They've given up then.
>MCU
>more repeat shit
>people are tired of it
it's so tiresome move the frick on jesus christ it ended with endgame.
>Rumors
By whom? The same guy who said cartoontrannie timetravel would retcon the Star Wars sequels?
The rumor has been around quite a while. I think it is partly based on Hickman's Secret Wars comic ending which merges all realities into one Marvel universe. A "soft reboot".
Didn't DC do that in the 80's?
Didn't they do that every 10 years? COIE, Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, New 52, Final Crisis, Rebirth...
Yeah but Infinity War from the comics has nothing to do with Infinity War the movie. Same with Age of Ultron or Secret Invasion. They're just taking the names and a vague hint of the plot and make something even more dogshit.
why do they bother killing them off in the first place if they are just going to come back to life?
Because it made manchildren cry a few years back
they have to reboot because their timeline is so utterly fricked up on account of only having access to like 3 characters when they started up.
reboot should start with fantastic 4 and spiderman and not even frick with avengers as main characters. you could just go ff to spiderman to x-men with the rest of the big characters making cameos in movies or having tv shows. their entire franchise is built around the least interesting characters
they think that just rebooting will attract people with this woke MSHEU
If they rebooted it the right way, I'd watch
brie should leave the mcu and make a cooking show
She is MY autistic wife NOT yours! Find your own!
>2027
In the meantime, they have a plethora of trash coming out that will continue to reinforce that the brand has turned to shit to the average viewer that already has fatigue due to all the trash they have been putting out.
They will sell Marvel before 2027.
>They will sell Marvel before 2027.
Imagine being this dumb.
No you.
by 2027 we'll be living in crudely made huts and making stew out of each other, so it's a moot point.
I see it happening before the mouse gives up any IPs.