From insider Daniel Richtman.
>The original script by Jeff Loveness featured the Council of Kangs attacking Earth-616, and the protagonists of the Multiverse Saga (Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Captain America, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man, Scarlet Witch, Shang-Chi, Hulk, She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Photon, Moon Knight and Daredevil) assembling to stop them. Thor would not have been included.
>Loveness’ draft actually didn’t include the Multiverse much. It started with the Kangs attacking and conquering Earth in a matter of hours, with the survivors joining forces to assault their fortress before their continued presence causes an universe-ending incursion. Spider-Man and Doctor Strange were the main characters like Captain America and Iron Man were in the Infinity Saga.
>Loveness was fired because Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania flopped, not because Marvel is moving away from Kang. Michael Waldron is writing a new script which features the Multiverse more heavily and has a stronger connection with Avengers: Secret Wars, which Waldron is also writing. Kang will still be the main villain, played by a new actor.
Good grief that guy is fricking ugly.
Well, if it's any consolation, he's not gonna be in the movie anymore
New actor is apparently the guy from Tenet
Woulda been kinda funny if it was Robert Pattinson NGL
I think being Batman would make it a conflict of interest.
>the Tenet guy
>playing some sort of supervillain
...are they casting based on meme logic about what the actor's last role was? Because I cannot see that guy as a supervillain, at all.
Frick I would've accepted them retconning the High Evolutionary into a Kang variant on vacation and using him instead, his performance was great.
They are actually moronic. There's no other explanation.
>Denzel's Son as the new Kang
Missed opportunity to play the Black Panther.
seen tenet MC acting worst the only reason dude in industry because hes denzel washington son
I really don't get what they were going for his character in Quantumania. It felt like they wanted to have their cake and eat it by having this "irredeemable ambitious villain" but also giving him this weird platonic pining for Janet as well as an allusion to him thinking he's the only one who can save the multiverse. For someone who talks big about crushing Avengers like ants and conquering worlds, he sure seems broken up over some random woman turning on him.
It's like Jonathan Majors was given stage directions to act like Thanos (because people liked Thanos) with Janet as his Gamora every couple of lines.
He was basically just Thanos again "ambitious and powerful cosmic villain who has a kinder side when it comes to certain personal relationships but is ultimately irredeemable"
I do feel they were TRYING to distinguish him from Thanos a little by making him seem more ambition-driven at the start, but yeah they did Kang a disservice by being too cowardly or uncreative go move outside their comfort zone.
People like to politicise these movies but my biggest complaint about the latter phases is that they're clearly being written more by marketing teams than actual creatives.
It feels like MCU is too afraid of making villains who are TOO inhuman so they try to humanize them in some ways often to the character's detriment.
It seems like only James Gunn is willing to go out and make villains who are just scary and scummy.
Unfortunately the design-by-committee way the MCU is run seems to have taught them absolutely nothing about what James Gunn did right, and just that they needed someone even "whackier" (Taika) to helm their movies.
You are missing absolutely nothing of value, and even if you want to catch up on any of the movies that come after Endgame I suggest you do so only after a few pints. Makes them easier to enjoy.
>For someone who talks big about crushing Avengers like ants and conquering worlds, he sure seems broken up over some random woman turning on him.
So you have no idea who Ravonna is?
I don't give a shit about the comics for the purposes of discussing the MCU. Guess what, Hela isn't Odin's daughter and Dormammu is generally depicted as a fiery headed elemental guy and not a fricking universe-eater who makes Galactus look underwhelming by comparison until he pulls out the Ultimate Nullifier. The movie had ever opportunity to establish what was need-to-know about Kang, and didn't bother with his love life so until proven otherwise it's nonexistent. In the context of Quantumania, I'm saying it makes zero sense. And in the context of the wider MCU, as far as we know Ravonna Renslayer has never been Kang's squeeze.
Don't buy it. Loki is "merely" doing the work of the Loom as far as we know, and Incursions by non-Kangs were apparently a problem even back when the Loom was working properly and the Kangs were safely retconned out of existence.
>Michael Waldron is writing a new script which features the Multiverse more heavily
Didn't black panther die in real life and in the movie? Sounds like bullshit and who the frick is proton
>in real life and in the movie?
Yes, Black Panther 2 is essentially a very big budget funeral for Chadwick Boseman despite him going on record as saying he'd be fine with the role being recast. He even dies of an unspecified offscreen disease at the start of the movie which apparently advanced Wakandan technology can't cure.
>who the frick is Photon
The MCU's superhero name for Monica Rambeau, who is currently stuck in the X-Men's universe due to falling through a hole in the multiverse caused by a jump point (those hexagonal grids you see warping people around space in the Guardians movies) malfunctioning.
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...in theory that means SHE risks causing an Incursion to the X-Men's universe.
>They morn him twice before that, they shouldnt be shocked, they should be expecting him to come back
>Kangs conquered the multiverse
>But MoM also established people crossing between universes results in an incursion that eventually destroys one or more universe
>Also Wanda is clearly delusional and corrupted by the Darkhold-NOPE, actually she's totally write about every dream you've ever had being a thing that happened in an alternate universe
>So either Kangs have/had tech which lets them get around that (He Who Remains just kind of hangs out at the end of time which...doesn't say a lot) or they're willing to destroy themselves to conquer one planet??
>Presumably No Way Home solved that by sending all the Spider-Man villains home on short notice?
>What about America Chavez?
>How do things like Ghost Rider's spirit of vengeance and Dormammu fit into all of this bullshit?
The more they explain about the multiverse, the more questions are raised.
>people crossing between universes results in an incursion that eventually destroys one or more universe
they could have Loki countering it as an excuse
>Kangs conquer 616 and cause an incursion
would've liked to see that.
>writing a new script which features the Multiverse more heavily and has a stronger connection with Avengers: Secret Wars
I'm guessing an Ultimate universe will be featured which mean cannibal grey hulk, Miller Cap or Miles Morales
>Kang will still be the main villain, played by a new actor.
good, I never thought they should drop Kang just because of Quantumania or the actor misbehaving.
>Ultimate universe
Bold of you to be that optimistic, when we got to see the MCU's version of the Illuminati-and see them unceremoniously killed off in the same movie they were introduced in
and? the illuminati are not invincible.
I was going to complain that many canon members were replaced and nor are they supposed to be THAT incompetent, but you know what? On second thought, the Illuminati ARE so incompetent even in the comics that I don't actually think Captains Carter and Rambeau even change anything about what goofy goober frickups they are.
they're not incompetent, Wanda was just more powerful.
>"Wanda, the being described by Dr. Strange as a multiversal antichrist and who I have just seen on my own security feed demolishing our Ultron drones effortlessly, let me kindly inform you about one of our heaviest hitter's weaknesses"
Black person they were super fricking incompetent, they had absolutely no plan to take her down because of residual trauma from dealing with Dr. Strange making them fixate on him instead.
This, they were morons. Reed Richards thought that reaching out his hand towards her would work.
That and she was posessing the body of their universe's version of Wanda, who they seemed to know as a nice woman and mother so they were hesitant in immediately eliminating her.
the only Marvel shows I've watched were a few seasons of Agents of SHIELD and the first Cloak and Dagger, I am so lost I will never catch up
Just watch the movies. It's still all you need.
the last movie I watched was Endgame and all the time travel stuff really isn't for me
Yeah, unfortunately the new main villain's gimmick is that he's supposedly the best time traveller in the whole multiverse and his variants are going to start a time war with the potential to end all of existence with Incursions so. It only gets worse.
Just watch Daredevil, its the only valuable thing, also ignore the very likely moron who will try to tell you Daredevil is shit after i wrote this
Nta but while Daredevil is fine, I find it really funny that one of the climatic fights involves a fat man trying to outscream a screeching autist.
Daredevil's biggest crime is that it paved way for all the other Netflix shit which was either mediocre (Luke Cage) or straight-up awful (Jessica Jones, Iron Fist). If it existed in a vacuum, I'd enjoy it a lot more.
Another fat mousecuck L
>Moon Knight
That's how you know this leak is fake.
Did they purposely chose a guy that looks identical to George Floyd?
probably
anyways the guy looks like he is about to cry half of the time