>Ayo strang, we gotta hold da corners >What if like... we did the package in monsta trucks >Like hard-hittin grave digga shit >Stringer rubs the bridge of his nose and heavily sighs >Sure thing Avon, I'll get right on that. >Stringer continues running the business as usual >See mang, I told you that frickin monsta truck shit be BALLIN >Sure thing Avon.
It is. There's often threads. Also after the show aired there were memes about how incessantly normies would tell others about how they had to watch the wire
Kek guess I'm late to the party because I was aware of it since forever, it was just never the right "time.
Now I'm incessantly telling homies to watch the show after being blown away by S1, two of my friends couldn't make it more than a few episodes in. "Too boring".
Also, man, Tom Waits is fricking killing it with the 2nd intro.
It is talked about very often. But it's not a mainstream sort of discussion the way Breaking Bad would have, so you don't have casual memeing on here, you have Wire threads instead. Like the Sopranos to an extent.
It is talked about very often. But it's not a mainstream sort of discussion the way Breaking Bad would have, so you don't have casual memeing on here, you have Wire threads instead. Like the Sopranos to an extent.
Fair enough, yeah. I don't spend much time on Cinemaphile, just felt like checking if there was a thread up on it here. Gahdamn, they did my homie D dirty.
We do talk about it. In fact Wire threads tend to be some of the best on Cinemaphile since at the risk of sounding like a snooty b***h, it's too dense a show for the most shitposting normie gays to watch, so they don't come into threads except for drive by "uh....Black folk! yeah that'll show em" posts, they'd rather be performatively loud about the latest Disney remake or cape film.
I love Bunny and Cutty's storylines, so 3 is the top for me. 2 would be the top if not for the bumbling antics of Nick and Ziggy. 5 is the worst, but it still wraps up the series pretty well.
Without question. Surprises me that this show isn't talked about much anymore. How come?
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homie u spying on me, I literally watched that scene 2 minutes ago
It tends to not be as popular on Cinemaphile because David Simon takes is an extreme structuralist who believes that individuals are the product of their environment and that the only people with any kind of agency are the people in charge of institutions.
On a website like Cinemaphile, where many people believe more strongly in individualism, that kind of worldview isn't as readily accepted, so people are often quick to point out that 95% of the bad things that happen to the drug dealing youths of Baltimore is entirely their own fault.
I'm currently downloading Homicide: Life on the Street. Are there any other good crime dramas?
There's so many instances where I feel like people just make the wrong decision because it's kind of what's expected of them. I just finished watching the series for the first time, and the stuff with Dukie near the end just feels off, especially since he was basically on the straight and narrow up until he couldn't get a job with Poot at footlocker. I mean, I could just be too naive to believe this, but does shit just turn that bad that quickly for people?
there were two (2) reasons to watch this show
>not the scene where kima is sucking her wife's breasts
First time in a while that a TV showed inspired a beat.
>Are there any other good crime dramas?
unfortunately, nothing that is quite like the wire
also, re: simons older stuff, life on the street and the corner, i'd like to watch them, but i can only find 480p rips... i just can't.
>the stuff with Dukie near the end just feels off, especially since he was basically on the straight and narrow up until he couldn't get a job with Poot at footlocker
i rather thought it was pretty in character. my read on dukie is that hes smart, but autistically so. basically 100% a follower. after the corner didn't work for him, and the footlocker thing didn't work for him and his buddy (forgot name) left to become omar v.2, we just started following the junkie horse guy.
I guess, but going from basically nonverbal to like a normal guy within the span of a school year is what makes me think that there would be some kind of mentorship provided by Prez. Similar thing with Carver and Randy, and the only character that pulls through with that kind of thing is Colvin, and Namond shows incredibly progress almost immediately.
If the point is for it to have a bummer ending then good job.
Carver "realistically" could've just let Randy crash at his place without any paper work and figured out school for him the same way Bubbles did for Sherrod. Absolutely nobody would've given a shit, or like gone after him for it, but they needed 4/5 of them to end up worse off than before
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It was too late, he was already deep in that system and was for years already, he can't just vanish after his guardian is incapacitated, they would notice. Sherrod was just a homeless kid, he wasn't in the foster system.
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>they would notice
They would notice but I sincerely doubt they'd send people after him, he would get filed as a runaway and maybe that would bit the local PD or whatever but even in decent city they don't just hunt down teenage runaways
It would be the same thing if he jumped ship while at the group home, which happens all the time, it's ultimately just a "well whatever" type deal
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They might care a bit more since a foster parent was severely burned (killed? I don't remember) while there were already cops stationed by their house, and with the kid acting as a witness in a murder case.
The whole situation with Randy makes me mad because his entire situation could've been avoided if they didn't press him on that rape thing. He's not a bad kid, and I don't think he ever sold drugs or anything like that.
Call me a gay hippy but I feel like these problems in these ghettos would stop if they didn't immediately prosecute these kids and tag them as future criminals as soon as they walk in the door.
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Randy is basically a young Bodie, in that he's genuinely hard working and honest (like how he alone finishes the job handing out leaflets even though he was paid in advance, cos that's the job he was paid to do, while the rest all bunk off), but he'll be ground down into having to hide in a thuggish, performative exterior, maybe so well hidden he forgets himself what he used to be, but we see the real him for a second when he's being questioned by Bunk in S5 ("That's what ya'll do right? Lie to dumbass Black folk?").
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Right, of course. But he's not a criminal in any real sense when he shows up to class. Like when he wants to borrow Prez's CC he doesn't immediately start selling drugs and instead uses what he learned to get money from nothing in the most legitimate way he could.
Again, I could just be a hippy gay but literally all of these kids with exception of maybe Michael could've been "saved" if anybody outside of the game helped them out. All of that paired with all of the Mayor stuff cutting money from schools so they could make a murderer and it feels very deliberate the way they were written.
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No, but he does live in a group home now, a miserable, soulsucking experience, and with a reputation as a snitch he has to act extra hard to throw off. So he's looking at a future as just another gang thug in the assembly line to the streets. In S4 when things were ok for him, his future ambition had been to run his own store, which he would have been well suited to given his salesmanship and initiative, he was already making some money buying and reselling candy. The point is that choice or chance is taken away from him, he's got no future where he is.
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It seems like we are agreeing with each other. 🙂
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>Again, I could just be a hippy gay but literally all of these kids with exception of maybe Michael could've been "saved" if anybody outside of the game helped them ou
Of course, there were many opportunities, but they just fell through the cracks of the systems they were embedded in. Like Dukie being automatically "graduated" to high school during the semester because of a rule about student ages, not because he was actually ready, and ending his comfortable tenure with Prez as his teacher prematurely.
Likewise Randy is ultimately mishandled because of small individual actions making the system break down
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the s5 randy was created by police incompetence
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I know that, I'm pointing out he has a lot of qualities in common with Bodie, and will likely have a similar adult life to him.
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mmm, idk, I disagree because I dont think Bodie was "hiding" behind a thuggish persona, I think he just naturally was a rougher person.
S5 "thug" Randy comes off as way more calculated. Seems like a try hard. But idk, we just see like 2 minutes of that version of him.
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bodie hesitated when it came to killing wallace, always found that funny, in the end it was poot who pulled the trigger first, also got out of the game safe and sound
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By him being naturally rougher I dont mean cold blood killer
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i don't think he was rougher than poot, he was just more ambitious and easily manipulated by people like string so he comes off as more of a leader when in the end its poot who had any sense
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Bodie was not so much "hiding" as he had been molded into a hard rough individual, but he's still very performative with his masculinity and roughness, and there's a lot more introspection and hesitation underneath the tough exterior, which moves to the forefront later, but it's noticeable even in S1. I always laugh when he's doing a run up to Philly, and starts losing the Baltimore radio stations on the car radio, getting Prairie Home Companion instead. Cut back to him later on when he's arriving in Philly, and he's still listening to it.
that was just simon shitting on the institutions, i think
prez wanted to help, but the asst principal lady stopped him. carver wanted to help, but child services couldn't. colby was able to just do it himself because he wasn't working, wasn't trying to do it within a given system, he could just do it.
Personally 2 is my favorite season. Also cheese is the funniest character in the whole show. Always shit myself with that comment he has before getting robbed.
Honestly every time I rewatch I seem to enjoy things more. I used to not like S2 too much and the kids stuff in season 4 at first was weird.
Now season 2 may be peak comfy. I actually enjoy what the kids represent and what happens to them. >When Bunk visits randy in season 5 and Randy throws back that promise shit because the police fricked up his life and will most likely become a big player.
If I had to
3>4>2>1>5 yet mind you this changes for me.
>The Greek searching all his pockets on his way to the plane outta dodge, realizing he forgot his beads he always kept on him >Nothing....important...
You just know he was silently seething about losing them for weeks afterwards.
Without question. Surprises me that this show isn't talked about much anymore. How come?
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homie u spying on me, I literally watched that scene 2 minutes ago
since after 2016 80% of the users of this board became moronic chuds its hard too discuss this show because it has too many black characters, that are very charismatic and really well writen, played by actors that did a great job. They can't post about it without being exposed as clowns.
Just finished rewatching, didn't realize Sherrod had a cameo in Season 3 during the "Woof" shooting. Also when Bubs ran into him on the corner cutting school, hadn't noticed before that he was clearly nodding off/high. There's so much little shit that's easy to niss
There's also a recurring character we see buying drugs in a scene in S3, a preppy white girl in an expensive car, we see her again in S4 working as a prostitute, then one more time in S5 at the rehab meetings talking about her struggles with getting and staying clean.
I love his arc in the final season so much, it's completely different from how most other shows would handle it but completely in line with what Waylon told him in Season 1. >Look, forgiveness from other folks is good but ain't nothing but words coming at you from outside. You wanna kick this shit, you got to forgive your own self. Love yourself some, brother. Then drag your sorry ass to some meetings. >Meetings? >What the frick you wanna hear? That you're strong enough to do this by yourself? Getting clean's the easy part. Now comes life.
Is the final season worth it? Everyone seemed like their stories were nearly wrapped up in season 4. McNulty even got a happy ending. I'm afraid to watch season 5 and watch it all go to shit.
Season 5 has some of the best scenes of the whole show, although I wasn't as big on some of the story developments. I would still rate it higher than season 2 though.
>Bubs constantly seeking some sort of punishment for all the years he wasted as a drug addict lowlife, and the guilt over his failure with Sherrod, and however many other fellow addicts who died around him.
The scenes of him being afraid to go get tested for HIV, finally being pushed to do it, but then seeming disappointed when he is negative despite how long he was a street addict. Like if he was, he could point to and accept that to be his punishment, and maybe force some sort of closure from that, but instead he has to soldier on, continuing to await something to reconcile his past misdeeds and failings with his clean life. It's strong stuff. His road to accepting he can carry guilt, but shouldn't let it define his whole life.
>Herc is supposed to be getting a couple of street kids to make a facial composite of a suspect with some computer software, they just start messing with it to make a goofy looking face, then Herc directs them to make his ideal woman for him >Pans up from the computer screen to a disapproving Carver...who looks awfully similar to the woman on the screen.
watched it again and the standout characters are avon, this nog comrade right here
and surprisingly marlo.
marlo was real fun to watch. he wrecked everyone else and didn't have his heart rate go up a single time except here
my favorite little Marlo moment is when him, Chris and Snoop go to Michael's new digs to talk business, Snoop walks in and gives Michael the black handshake greeting, Chris follows and does the same, then Marlo comes in last, and walks straight past Michael. And he was in Marlo's good books at that point. Just no warmth in him at all.
my favorite little Marlo moment is when him, Chris and Snoop go to Michael's new digs to talk business, Snoop walks in and gives Michael the black handshake greeting, Chris follows and does the same, then Marlo comes in last, and walks straight past Michael. And he was in Marlo's good books at that point. Just no warmth in him at all.
I think his ending is the most brilliantly written thing. he literally bleeds through his suit
to be fair, shooting down a homie trying to get his grandma to church on a sunday morning is low as frick jesus christ I come to hate Stringer more and more as the show progresses
Stringer was right in creating the co-op, all he had to do was distance himself from the street action and let Slim,(under Avon) run the corners. Avon would have been happier without Stringer undercutting the territory strategy and Stringer would have had more time for funding operations and making deals with suppliers, either with the Greeks himself, like Marlo did, or finding another syndicate to do business with.
His strategy trying to make Avon's crew distributors wasn't even necessary, he should have set up a smaller elite crew that was there purely to deal with distribution, and leave the violence to Slim.
All this assumes Stringer actually had some leadership and business skills which is debatable.
I don't think Stringer was right at any point of his leadership. Trying to run the streets like a business got them all killed by the guy who stuck to his roots so to speak.
Especially when he was hardly some experienced businessman to begin with. Taking some economics classes at community college and thinking he's a high rolling CEO now.
This is the one of the few shows that the sex/nudity was decreasing over the seasons, not complaining tho, just for "HBO quality tv" it's something rarely to happen.
I was watching this EP with my mom after hyping up the show. We binged all of season 1. Got to season 2 and this episode.
She was genuinely impressed. Said something like "honey, you got some nice ones" admiringly.
>Bunk absolutely tearing Omar a new one over his lack of concern for the wider consequences of his actions, visibly bothering him on a visceral level
He really had that coming a long time. He might be "better" than a gangbanger and have his rules for how he conducts his rip n run business, but he causes plenty of damage in his wake and contributes to the continued breakdown of the community, and really needed to be confronted with that.
>Let me get a pack of Juicy Fruit. >You like one of them half-soul, half-Chinese types from Vietnam and shit?
*Kima just stares at him and departs* >Come again now, Mama-san.
She's a shitty actress. I was in this scene and she got it cut down cause her and some day player playing a cop sucked. I said it was a lot of unusable footage that was definitely getting canned from their scene (Cringe bad acting) anyways they actually canned me after the first season cause I shared my gripes about the inauthenticity of the show VS reality.
The Bunk >Up to this...Spiros Vondopoulos. >Boy, them Greeks and those twisted-ass names. >Hey, lay off the Greeks. They invented civilization. >Yeah? Ass-frickin', too.
When he shows up on detail to Major Crimes in a college tracksuit instead of a his usual suits >Lacrosse? >What? A brother can't run with the stick? Jim Brown was an all-American midfielder at Syracuse. >You putting yourself beside Jim Brown? >I'm just saying... >I thought you were born in pinstripes. >Lieutenant, I was under the impression that when detailed, against his will, to some backwards-ass, no-count, out-in-the-districts, lost-ball-in-tall-grass drug investigation, a veteran police of means and talent can wear whatever the frick he damn well pleases. It's a hell of a thing to take a downtown police and lose him in a cross-town world.
"A O B"? Well, when we're through talking monosyllabically, I'd like you to run these numbers on the Osterman account. There's been a lot of upward movement in their stock position lately and we need to know if we're looking at a buyout here.
she was the perfect representation of a modern career woman >spend prime young years working >no time to focus on finding a good man >constantly getting fricked by various loser men she met through work to fill the void >finally make it into a decent job just as the ovaries are drying up >only man who wants to commit to her is black
they should have included some scenes of her drinking boxed wine alone in her apartment to really seal the deal but it was very well done
I find hilarious that she really think that McNullty would "assume" her or something like that, even his ex-wife knows how stupid and self destructive he was and after a casual frick send him ass back to the shithole room again.
Even though it was all his own fault, and he stepped over everyone in the process, I still feel bad when his dream is crumbling all around him and leaving him a complete fool.
S3 Stringer is sad to see after how careful and cautious he was in S1, it felt like he got dumber all of a sudden but I think it was just that he was better working on a smaller scale like middle management rather than being the CEO, Avon had vision and understood the game a lot better than Stringer.
he didn't get dumber, his mistakes in season 2 caught up with him especially him ordering the death of d'angelo. That was fricking unnecessary especially after brianna assured them he would eat the 20
Even If Avon "understand" Stringer motives, D'Angelo was his family, when the moment come and Avon would choose to save or let Stringer die of course he will choose the second option because of how hurting his sister was. Stringer was stupid thinking that everything was "cool" in the name of the money
>smugly walks into your office and destroys your prosecution >allows you to jail some low level nobody just so you can have some dignity back >smiles israelily and leaves
Hey there, Jim! Tom Carcetti here, remember me? We met at your sister's house, you know, the one that's married to that Republican c**t. I know you don't remember me. I know you don't have any use for fricking politicians, and frankly, I don't give a flying frick about what you think or what your concerns are. But I do care about what your cute little blonde wife thinks about so many things. But, Jim, the reason I'm calling is because I want you to write me out a check for $4,000, the maximum allowed by law. And because we don't trust you to actually mail that check, we're gonna send over a couple of furloughed DPW workers to beat the check outta you!
Carcetti's profanity laden rant in the car after he hears of Royce's giant ad buy always kills me >Bullshit! Weak bullshit, I wouldn't vote for me! FRICK! Frick Royce, frick Tony Gray, frick me! >Middle East, now that's a good name for it, frickin Fallujah. Frickin Royce! 300 thousand like it's frickin water. >What are they crying about today? Fricking shithole of a city, whining bastards b***hing about the trash or the crime or this or that like it's my fricking fault it all went to shit! Motherfrickers.
one of my favorite things about this show is that my 'the wire' folder is directly next to my 'titcows and braphogs' folder. it's one of the best shows of all time for this fact alone.
jimmy went pig hunting that night
the blonde he "saved from bunk" was the best one, and he even said he "really liked her" when asked by bunk next time
Just a reminder that if Stringer wasn't a moron rat. That Avon would have wiped Marlo out in a night and had his corners. Technically the police fricked up because letting marlo live meant more bodies and horrific ones too.
Prove me wrong.
how much milage do you think herc got out of that story walking in on the mayor's blowjob? it's too good not to retell after you get shitcanned and the guy is out of office, right?
he probably even told levy
the ending of season 3 was so kino
stringer put away avon by choosing business over the street (snitching) and avon helped facilitate stringer's death by choosing the street (his word/reputation) over business
kinda tragic. he's an amazing detective, but the work destroys him. he turns his life around and cleans up when he gets some low level patrol gig, but cant help getting back into the action.
>You can be fricking somr troony ass and be like what the frick
>But never on no Sunday b
Gonna have to make you look like a suicide, B.
>how many times have i told you??
>my name is D, not B!
B'Angelo, stop mouthing off and do what I tell you.
YES, CUBAN B!
>We got rules don't we?
>Ayo strang, we gotta hold da corners
>What if like... we did the package in monsta trucks
>Like hard-hittin grave digga shit
>Stringer rubs the bridge of his nose and heavily sighs
>Sure thing Avon, I'll get right on that.
>Stringer continues running the business as usual
>See mang, I told you that frickin monsta truck shit be BALLIN
>Sure thing Avon.
That's it. That's The Wire.
That's management of all privately-owned mid-sized business and I've seen a few.
>the other gangs do the monster truck strategy and take over all of Stringer's shit
Exactly as I remember.
>it's a Stringer fricks everything up season
Imagine if he was in the Wire
he was, it was the laywer
he broke all the bucks, avon, stringer, marlo, all of them
That's Proposition Joe.
bidness, n chess n shiet
i like that Stringer's business front was called B&B
Bell & Barksdale
I like the fact that the thing which kept him from going straight and being a legit businessman was another Black person.
Stringer was just a b***h ass punk
Avon was 100% correct about him not being smart enough for the suits and also not hard enough for the streets
>not being smart enough for the suits and also not hard enough for the streets
He's literally me.
and if he'd stayed at home on the early 2000s internet and practicing his akido katas in his study, he would still be alive
>just a b***h ass punk
i wouldn't go that far... most of us are neither fish nor fowl too. show some respect
>The tasteful thickness of it
>That subtle off white colouring
LIKE A 30 DEGREE DAY
ayo ive been thinkin
this shit is just like chess yo…
What would you rate the seasons?
I'm in the middle of s3 rn.
So far 1>2>3(from what I've seen)
not too much has happened yet this season
I rate them all better than 99% of other TV shows.
Without question. Surprises me that this show isn't talked about much anymore. How come?
homie u spying on me, I literally watched that scene 2 minutes ago
It is. There's often threads. Also after the show aired there were memes about how incessantly normies would tell others about how they had to watch the wire
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Kek guess I'm late to the party because I was aware of it since forever, it was just never the right "time.
Now I'm incessantly telling homies to watch the show after being blown away by S1, two of my friends couldn't make it more than a few episodes in. "Too boring".
Also, man, Tom Waits is fricking killing it with the 2nd intro.
It's Tom Waits' song. The show starts up pretty slow so many probably give up in after first couple episodes.
It is talked about very often. But it's not a mainstream sort of discussion the way Breaking Bad would have, so you don't have casual memeing on here, you have Wire threads instead. Like the Sopranos to an extent.
There's nothing to shitpost about. It's really good and that's about all there is to say.
Fair enough, yeah. I don't spend much time on Cinemaphile, just felt like checking if there was a thread up on it here. Gahdamn, they did my homie D dirty.
Its one of the few shows to have a significant amount of academic literature written on it, that's plenty talked about.
We do talk about it. In fact Wire threads tend to be some of the best on Cinemaphile since at the risk of sounding like a snooty b***h, it's too dense a show for the most shitposting normie gays to watch, so they don't come into threads except for drive by "uh....Black folk! yeah that'll show em" posts, they'd rather be performatively loud about the latest Disney remake or cape film.
3>2>4>1>>>5
I love Bunny and Cutty's storylines, so 3 is the top for me. 2 would be the top if not for the bumbling antics of Nick and Ziggy. 5 is the worst, but it still wraps up the series pretty well.
4>3>2>5>1
It tends to not be as popular on Cinemaphile because David Simon takes is an extreme structuralist who believes that individuals are the product of their environment and that the only people with any kind of agency are the people in charge of institutions.
On a website like Cinemaphile, where many people believe more strongly in individualism, that kind of worldview isn't as readily accepted, so people are often quick to point out that 95% of the bad things that happen to the drug dealing youths of Baltimore is entirely their own fault.
I'm currently downloading Homicide: Life on the Street. Are there any other good crime dramas?
There's so many instances where I feel like people just make the wrong decision because it's kind of what's expected of them. I just finished watching the series for the first time, and the stuff with Dukie near the end just feels off, especially since he was basically on the straight and narrow up until he couldn't get a job with Poot at footlocker. I mean, I could just be too naive to believe this, but does shit just turn that bad that quickly for people?
>not the scene where kima is sucking her wife's breasts
First time in a while that a TV showed inspired a beat.
Loved Bunk.
>Are there any other good crime dramas?
unfortunately, nothing that is quite like the wire
also, re: simons older stuff, life on the street and the corner, i'd like to watch them, but i can only find 480p rips... i just can't.
>the stuff with Dukie near the end just feels off, especially since he was basically on the straight and narrow up until he couldn't get a job with Poot at footlocker
i rather thought it was pretty in character. my read on dukie is that hes smart, but autistically so. basically 100% a follower. after the corner didn't work for him, and the footlocker thing didn't work for him and his buddy (forgot name) left to become omar v.2, we just started following the junkie horse guy.
I guess, but going from basically nonverbal to like a normal guy within the span of a school year is what makes me think that there would be some kind of mentorship provided by Prez. Similar thing with Carver and Randy, and the only character that pulls through with that kind of thing is Colvin, and Namond shows incredibly progress almost immediately.
If the point is for it to have a bummer ending then good job.
Carver "realistically" could've just let Randy crash at his place without any paper work and figured out school for him the same way Bubbles did for Sherrod. Absolutely nobody would've given a shit, or like gone after him for it, but they needed 4/5 of them to end up worse off than before
It was too late, he was already deep in that system and was for years already, he can't just vanish after his guardian is incapacitated, they would notice. Sherrod was just a homeless kid, he wasn't in the foster system.
>they would notice
They would notice but I sincerely doubt they'd send people after him, he would get filed as a runaway and maybe that would bit the local PD or whatever but even in decent city they don't just hunt down teenage runaways
It would be the same thing if he jumped ship while at the group home, which happens all the time, it's ultimately just a "well whatever" type deal
They might care a bit more since a foster parent was severely burned (killed? I don't remember) while there were already cops stationed by their house, and with the kid acting as a witness in a murder case.
The whole situation with Randy makes me mad because his entire situation could've been avoided if they didn't press him on that rape thing. He's not a bad kid, and I don't think he ever sold drugs or anything like that.
Call me a gay hippy but I feel like these problems in these ghettos would stop if they didn't immediately prosecute these kids and tag them as future criminals as soon as they walk in the door.
Randy is basically a young Bodie, in that he's genuinely hard working and honest (like how he alone finishes the job handing out leaflets even though he was paid in advance, cos that's the job he was paid to do, while the rest all bunk off), but he'll be ground down into having to hide in a thuggish, performative exterior, maybe so well hidden he forgets himself what he used to be, but we see the real him for a second when he's being questioned by Bunk in S5 ("That's what ya'll do right? Lie to dumbass Black folk?").
Right, of course. But he's not a criminal in any real sense when he shows up to class. Like when he wants to borrow Prez's CC he doesn't immediately start selling drugs and instead uses what he learned to get money from nothing in the most legitimate way he could.
Again, I could just be a hippy gay but literally all of these kids with exception of maybe Michael could've been "saved" if anybody outside of the game helped them out. All of that paired with all of the Mayor stuff cutting money from schools so they could make a murderer and it feels very deliberate the way they were written.
No, but he does live in a group home now, a miserable, soulsucking experience, and with a reputation as a snitch he has to act extra hard to throw off. So he's looking at a future as just another gang thug in the assembly line to the streets. In S4 when things were ok for him, his future ambition had been to run his own store, which he would have been well suited to given his salesmanship and initiative, he was already making some money buying and reselling candy. The point is that choice or chance is taken away from him, he's got no future where he is.
It seems like we are agreeing with each other. 🙂
>Again, I could just be a hippy gay but literally all of these kids with exception of maybe Michael could've been "saved" if anybody outside of the game helped them ou
Of course, there were many opportunities, but they just fell through the cracks of the systems they were embedded in. Like Dukie being automatically "graduated" to high school during the semester because of a rule about student ages, not because he was actually ready, and ending his comfortable tenure with Prez as his teacher prematurely.
Likewise Randy is ultimately mishandled because of small individual actions making the system break down
the s5 randy was created by police incompetence
I know that, I'm pointing out he has a lot of qualities in common with Bodie, and will likely have a similar adult life to him.
mmm, idk, I disagree because I dont think Bodie was "hiding" behind a thuggish persona, I think he just naturally was a rougher person.
S5 "thug" Randy comes off as way more calculated. Seems like a try hard. But idk, we just see like 2 minutes of that version of him.
bodie hesitated when it came to killing wallace, always found that funny, in the end it was poot who pulled the trigger first, also got out of the game safe and sound
By him being naturally rougher I dont mean cold blood killer
i don't think he was rougher than poot, he was just more ambitious and easily manipulated by people like string so he comes off as more of a leader when in the end its poot who had any sense
Bodie was not so much "hiding" as he had been molded into a hard rough individual, but he's still very performative with his masculinity and roughness, and there's a lot more introspection and hesitation underneath the tough exterior, which moves to the forefront later, but it's noticeable even in S1. I always laugh when he's doing a run up to Philly, and starts losing the Baltimore radio stations on the car radio, getting Prairie Home Companion instead. Cut back to him later on when he's arriving in Philly, and he's still listening to it.
that was just simon shitting on the institutions, i think
prez wanted to help, but the asst principal lady stopped him. carver wanted to help, but child services couldn't. colby was able to just do it himself because he wasn't working, wasn't trying to do it within a given system, he could just do it.
>where many people believe more strongly in individualism
4 > 3 > 1 > 5 = 2
4>2>3>1>5
3>2=1>>>4>5
Patrician order coming through.
4>3>2>5>1
2 is slightly better than 1.
3 onwards is a steady downfall. too many characters, too many messages, lost its focus.
4 is peak modern television
Personally 2 is my favorite season. Also cheese is the funniest character in the whole show. Always shit myself with that comment he has before getting robbed.
>this one b***h was pulling guns out of her pussy, it was unseemly, man
homie, I'mma kill you twice!
1>4>3>>>>>>>>>2&5
4 > 3 > 1 > 5 > 2
Last rewatch
4>2>1>>3>5
3 Dropped pretty hard, didn't think 5 was as bad. Still all great.
Honestly every time I rewatch I seem to enjoy things more. I used to not like S2 too much and the kids stuff in season 4 at first was weird.
Now season 2 may be peak comfy. I actually enjoy what the kids represent and what happens to them.
>When Bunk visits randy in season 5 and Randy throws back that promise shit because the police fricked up his life and will most likely become a big player.
If I had to
3>4>2>1>5 yet mind you this changes for me.
>Carver raging in his car after completely failing Randy
1 >> 2 = 3 > 4 >> 5
They were israelites pretending to be Greeks, right?
there is some symbolism during the season that suggests they were egyptians
>The Greek searching all his pockets on his way to the plane outta dodge, realizing he forgot his beads he always kept on him
>Nothing....important...
You just know he was silently seething about losing them for weeks afterwards.
May have been Armenian.
albanians
>he was the man in his time
>he still is
hits hard
since after 2016 80% of the users of this board became moronic chuds its hard too discuss this show because it has too many black characters, that are very charismatic and really well writen, played by actors that did a great job. They can't post about it without being exposed as clowns.
YOU CALL ME A PUNK???
HE CALL ME A WEEB?
I can't really explain why but I think I liked Michael K. Williams' role in Boardwalk Empire more. RIP.
AYO LOCK DAT DOOR
dies because he can't escape out the locked doors in his building site
>it's another Bubs episode
>instant 10/10
>rewatch the series
>tfw every scene with Sherrod
>the scene when Waylon visits him in the hospital and he breaks down
For me, its Dookie
I'm only feeling like a Tinkle rn.
Just finished rewatching, didn't realize Sherrod had a cameo in Season 3 during the "Woof" shooting. Also when Bubs ran into him on the corner cutting school, hadn't noticed before that he was clearly nodding off/high. There's so much little shit that's easy to niss
There's also a recurring character we see buying drugs in a scene in S3, a preppy white girl in an expensive car, we see her again in S4 working as a prostitute, then one more time in S5 at the rehab meetings talking about her struggles with getting and staying clean.
Lol I remembered all her cameos because she's hot
Wasn't she David Simon's daughter or something?
She’s married to D irl
I love his arc in the final season so much, it's completely different from how most other shows would handle it but completely in line with what Waylon told him in Season 1.
>Look, forgiveness from other folks is good but ain't nothing but words coming at you from outside. You wanna kick this shit, you got to forgive your own self. Love yourself some, brother. Then drag your sorry ass to some meetings.
>Meetings?
>What the frick you wanna hear? That you're strong enough to do this by yourself? Getting clean's the easy part. Now comes life.
Is the final season worth it? Everyone seemed like their stories were nearly wrapped up in season 4. McNulty even got a happy ending. I'm afraid to watch season 5 and watch it all go to shit.
Absolutely. Some people have quibbles and issues with some of the stories, but what is good is incredible. Bubbles' arc alone is worth watching for.
yea, i liked it
and im not gonna spoil it for you, but imo the season 5 ending is the canonical example of what a bittersweet ending should be.
Overall it's the worst season but it's still good.
u gotta do it man
Season 5 has some of the best scenes of the whole show, although I wasn't as big on some of the story developments. I would still rate it higher than season 2 though.
you have to watch it
It's the worst season of one of the best shows, you figure it out
>Steve Earle’s song ending the second season
Gets me every time man
Checked and I know s2 isn’t the best, but damn if it doesnt hit close to home
As someone who lives in an east coast shithole (of the uk) and was a stevedore, it is pretty fricking kino
I FEEL ALRIGHT
I FEEL ALRIGHT TONIGHT
>Bubs sitting down at his sister's table to have dinner
How can such a short scene be so kino
It's all you need to see to know he'll be alright.
>Bubs constantly seeking some sort of punishment for all the years he wasted as a drug addict lowlife, and the guilt over his failure with Sherrod, and however many other fellow addicts who died around him.
The scenes of him being afraid to go get tested for HIV, finally being pushed to do it, but then seeming disappointed when he is negative despite how long he was a street addict. Like if he was, he could point to and accept that to be his punishment, and maybe force some sort of closure from that, but instead he has to soldier on, continuing to await something to reconcile his past misdeeds and failings with his clean life. It's strong stuff. His road to accepting he can carry guilt, but shouldn't let it define his whole life.
Much obliged.
>His name is Head. Dick Head.
Why did Detective Head never reappear and why was Carver hanging around with him instead of his usual partner?
Herc and Carver was a hilarious duo. Shame they abandoned that pairing later on.
>Go ahead and eat the fries, you fat frick
>... You think I'm fat?
That exchange always kills me.
>Herc is supposed to be getting a couple of street kids to make a facial composite of a suspect with some computer software, they just start messing with it to make a goofy looking face, then Herc directs them to make his ideal woman for him
>Pans up from the computer screen to a disapproving Carver...who looks awfully similar to the woman on the screen.
>the name of that woman on the screen? gus triandose
>rewatching the Wire
>remember that Omar, Cedric Daniels, Prop Joe, Valchek and more have all passed irl
>Cedric Daniels
This one is still ridiculous to think about
And several of them in jail for drugs, and one is teaching Ukrainian soldiers.
Crazy world.
>and one is teaching Ukrainian soldiers
Who?
Colicchio (Benjamin Busch)
go frick yourself with a 40 shitbird
?si=3NP3LtYNKpcinW5C&t=73
it's over
Turns out the vax is more dangerous than the streets of Baltimore.
RED TOPS
I hear the WMD is the bomb.
>PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDEMIC
>November in the hood
PLYMOUTH ROCK
WE GOT THAT PLYMOUTH ROCK
SWING STATE GOT DAT SWING STATE
BIG GUY FOR YOU RITE CHEER RITE CHEERE
WMD, GOT THAT WMD
>him and McNulty are the only cops in the series we never see rough up a suspect
Even Landsman gets in on thrashing Bird that one time.
Even Cool Lester Smooth hits that one guy with a bottle unprovoked.
Bird.
>AYYYYY SHAWTY
>Omar smugly hearing Bird get a fresh beating in the interrogation room
>"Bird sure know how to bring it out in people, don't he?"
>how bout you uncuff me and I frick you in all three holes?
Frick you, fat man!
eat my shit first, you down town white prostitute
>Huhuhuhh "frick you, fat man", and I thought we were friends.
That guy attacked two white people for voting for Bernie instead of Hillary.
JIMMY
watched it again and the standout characters are avon, this nog comrade right here
and surprisingly marlo.
marlo was real fun to watch. he wrecked everyone else and didn't have his heart rate go up a single time except here
total psychopath.
my favorite little Marlo moment is when him, Chris and Snoop go to Michael's new digs to talk business, Snoop walks in and gives Michael the black handshake greeting, Chris follows and does the same, then Marlo comes in last, and walks straight past Michael. And he was in Marlo's good books at that point. Just no warmth in him at all.
I think his ending is the most brilliantly written thing. he literally bleeds through his suit
to be fair, shooting down a homie trying to get his grandma to church on a sunday morning is low as frick jesus christ I come to hate Stringer more and more as the show progresses
Scares you, don't he? Scares me, too.
I stopped after S3. was just getting worse and worse.
First season is peak tv though
>missing the uncut kino of s4
sheeeeeeeeeeit
Stringer was right in creating the co-op, all he had to do was distance himself from the street action and let Slim,(under Avon) run the corners. Avon would have been happier without Stringer undercutting the territory strategy and Stringer would have had more time for funding operations and making deals with suppliers, either with the Greeks himself, like Marlo did, or finding another syndicate to do business with.
His strategy trying to make Avon's crew distributors wasn't even necessary, he should have set up a smaller elite crew that was there purely to deal with distribution, and leave the violence to Slim.
All this assumes Stringer actually had some leadership and business skills which is debatable.
>no replies
Does this mean I'm right or is my post so boring it doesn't warrant any (You)s
I don't think Stringer was right at any point of his leadership. Trying to run the streets like a business got them all killed by the guy who stuck to his roots so to speak.
Especially when he was hardly some experienced businessman to begin with. Taking some economics classes at community college and thinking he's a high rolling CEO now.
I mean he got fleeced In literally his first business deal it was pretty clear he was in over his head
Stringer did nothing wrong except not constulting with the israelite lawyer and going full moron about murdering Clay Davis.
Who else /chris&snoop/ here
would
Wouldn't blame ya for it, Chris is a handsome black gentleman.
>You like boys, motherfricker?
>Where's Dre?
>I don't know!
>You believe her?
>Naw
I love when Andre is pleading his case to Marlo, calling Omar a terrorist and expecting him to forgive what he owes. Marlo's response is great:
>Omar ain't no terrorist, he just a homie with a gun. And you ain't no Delta Airlines neither. You just a homie that got your shit took.
Talk that global economy mess somewhere else
>what I want with some off-brand hilltop corner
Marlo was cold as ice
>Snoop baffled by how violently and angrily Chris kills him
It's just business for them usually, killing isn't anything personal.
That’s how you knew Chris was abused as a child
How did they get away with painting that street bum as a serial killer again?
he did do a copycat killing and directly state he'd killed the others with forethought
they didn't?
publicly they did, they confirmed the murder he did and then alluded to him likely being responsible for the others
there were two (2) reasons to watch this show
Really a fine pair.
This is the one of the few shows that the sex/nudity was decreasing over the seasons, not complaining tho, just for "HBO quality tv" it's something rarely to happen.
I was watching this EP with my mom after hyping up the show. We binged all of season 1. Got to season 2 and this episode.
She was genuinely impressed. Said something like "honey, you got some nice ones" admiringly.
>I am a reasonable pontiff, am I not, Bishop Landsman?
Yes, reasonable and pious, your Grace.
Where is Monsignor McNulty? I have to hear word of his sins from the office of his eminence
He is...out on the parish, your Grace. Last rites call...
He is taking confession from his parishioners.
>What the frick did you do?
>I am a reasonable Caesar, am I not, Legate Landsman?
Reasonable and patrician, imperator.
>rumors of an Oblivion remake
>no rumors of a New Vegas remake with a restored Legion main path
>mfw we’ll never see the original caesar and joshua graham from fallout van buren
>getting banned from towns or attacked on sight for having the Burned Man in your party
It would be kino and you know it
You are reasonable, your grace, reasonable and ecumenical.
I like all the gay easter eggs about him in the show. Not in your nose but subtle.
But what of fine Prop Joe?
A REAL HUMAN BEAN
NO DON'T DO IT
I don't WANT you there NIck, OK?
Just rewatched the scene and realized I misremembered the quote. John Halo pales in comparison to the actor that plays Frank
It's not FAIR
>FRAAAAAAAANNKKK THE GREEK KNOWS YOU TALKED TO THE COPS FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNKKK
>me futilely reaching toward the TV to pull him back
We used to make shit in this country.
Build shit.
>23 year old man in 2002
You know what the most dangerous thing in America is, right? homie with a library card.
where do you guys get the sideways caps?
>someone dumb enough that Herc can mock him
I legitimately can't tell if he was trying to make a joke or not.
He was. The kid didn't get it and thought he was asking an actual question.
>Bunk absolutely tearing Omar a new one over his lack of concern for the wider consequences of his actions, visibly bothering him on a visceral level
He really had that coming a long time. He might be "better" than a gangbanger and have his rules for how he conducts his rip n run business, but he causes plenty of damage in his wake and contributes to the continued breakdown of the community, and really needed to be confronted with that.
Amazing scene. One of Bunk's top scenes in the show for sure.
>Omar still seething days later
Got em bad
>He might be "better" than a gangbanger
No "might" about it... remove the quotes around "better" too
Guys.
What the FRICK was her problem?
Nothing? While she picks up some bad habits from McNulty she was generally well adjusted and competent as far as police go.
Literally too sexy.
>Let me get a pack of Juicy Fruit.
>You like one of them half-soul, half-Chinese types from Vietnam and shit?
*Kima just stares at him and departs*
>Come again now, Mama-san.
She's a shitty actress. I was in this scene and she got it cut down cause her and some day player playing a cop sucked. I said it was a lot of unusable footage that was definitely getting canned from their scene (Cringe bad acting) anyways they actually canned me after the first season cause I shared my gripes about the inauthenticity of the show VS reality.
>most authentic cop show by a mile
>this walking dildo complains about it
>they actually canned me after the first season cause I shared my gripes about the inauthenticity of the show VS reality.
Sure they did, anon.
on the off-chance your story is legit, they shit canned you because you're a faceless extra thinking anybody gives a frick about your input
>Damn, boy. Your mama's what homies call a dragon lady.
>She don't blink.
>Yeah, gimme some insight, though.
>To what?
>Why you is...what you is.
Who is the most quotable?
Landsman
>The brash tweedy impertinence of Detective Freamon
Landsman had an amazing vocab. Rarely see that in those guys irl
>you want it to be one way
The Bunk
>Up to this...Spiros Vondopoulos.
>Boy, them Greeks and those twisted-ass names.
>Hey, lay off the Greeks. They invented civilization.
>Yeah? Ass-frickin', too.
When he shows up on detail to Major Crimes in a college tracksuit instead of a his usual suits
>Lacrosse?
>What? A brother can't run with the stick? Jim Brown was an all-American midfielder at Syracuse.
>You putting yourself beside Jim Brown?
>I'm just saying...
>I thought you were born in pinstripes.
>Lieutenant, I was under the impression that when detailed, against his will, to some backwards-ass, no-count, out-in-the-districts, lost-ball-in-tall-grass drug investigation, a veteran police of means and talent can wear whatever the frick he damn well pleases. It's a hell of a thing to take a downtown police and lose him in a cross-town world.
gotta be bunk or prop joe
There's nothing more endlessly repeatable than
>What the frick did I do?
He had some trouble back home it was sad to see how my buddy ray ray had fallen into ptsd and drugs
Nice dolphin, homie.
>GOT THAT PANDEMIC
how did they know bros
"A O B"? Well, when we're through talking monosyllabically, I'd like you to run these numbers on the Osterman account. There's been a lot of upward movement in their stock position lately and we need to know if we're looking at a buyout here.
Oh, and get me a cup of coffee.
Frick you, tax man!
Enjoyed S1 and S2. Gave up midway thru S3.
good choice
how many fricks wwould you throw into her, Cinemaphile
It's funny seeing her breasts in the wire, then seeing her in later shows usually as a grandma.
I guess you could call those breasts
I can’t tell if she was genius casting or the worst on the entire show.
she was the perfect representation of a modern career woman
>spend prime young years working
>no time to focus on finding a good man
>constantly getting fricked by various loser men she met through work to fill the void
>finally make it into a decent job just as the ovaries are drying up
>only man who wants to commit to her is black
they should have included some scenes of her drinking boxed wine alone in her apartment to really seal the deal but it was very well done
I did like that she looked a little walled. A lesser show would have cast some fox.
the more her jowls drooped, the more black men approached her
I find hilarious that she really think that McNullty would "assume" her or something like that, even his ex-wife knows how stupid and self destructive he was and after a casual frick send him ass back to the shithole room again.
>Her finishing reading the typed affidavits by the detail
>"You all cannot spell for shit"
Coal burner
People underrate s2 because it’s so jarring the first time you watch it. Upon rewatch you realize it belongs in the upper tier.
>has a huge penis
>still acts like an incel
Why?
>huge penis
don't matter when you're under 6 feet
omegle didn't exist yet so he couldn't find his niche
>MORE LIKE NICKY?!
Even though it was all his own fault, and he stepped over everyone in the process, I still feel bad when his dream is crumbling all around him and leaving him a complete fool.
The way his israelite lawyer literally laughs in his face always hurt
S3 Stringer is sad to see after how careful and cautious he was in S1, it felt like he got dumber all of a sudden but I think it was just that he was better working on a smaller scale like middle management rather than being the CEO, Avon had vision and understood the game a lot better than Stringer.
The war with Marlo was still handled piss poorly.
he didn't get dumber, his mistakes in season 2 caught up with him especially him ordering the death of d'angelo. That was fricking unnecessary especially after brianna assured them he would eat the 20
Even If Avon "understand" Stringer motives, D'Angelo was his family, when the moment come and Avon would choose to save or let Stringer die of course he will choose the second option because of how hurting his sister was. Stringer was stupid thinking that everything was "cool" in the name of the money
Yes, A?
What do you do?
>smugly walks into your office and destroys your prosecution
>allows you to jail some low level nobody just so you can have some dignity back
>smiles israelily and leaves
Go munch your gribenes you twat.
>Objection, your honor. The prosecution just called me a twat for no reason
>Sustained. Prosecution will refrain from pointing out Mr. Levy is a twat.
David Simon's response to being called anti semetic for this character is very funny.
What was his response
Hey there, Jim! Tom Carcetti here, remember me? We met at your sister's house, you know, the one that's married to that Republican c**t. I know you don't remember me. I know you don't have any use for fricking politicians, and frankly, I don't give a flying frick about what you think or what your concerns are. But I do care about what your cute little blonde wife thinks about so many things. But, Jim, the reason I'm calling is because I want you to write me out a check for $4,000, the maximum allowed by law. And because we don't trust you to actually mail that check, we're gonna send over a couple of furloughed DPW workers to beat the check outta you!
jim's sister is based
why didn't we meet her?
Carcetti's profanity laden rant in the car after he hears of Royce's giant ad buy always kills me
>Bullshit! Weak bullshit, I wouldn't vote for me! FRICK! Frick Royce, frick Tony Gray, frick me!
>Middle East, now that's a good name for it, frickin Fallujah. Frickin Royce! 300 thousand like it's frickin water.
>What are they crying about today? Fricking shithole of a city, whining bastards b***hing about the trash or the crime or this or that like it's my fricking fault it all went to shit! Motherfrickers.
one of my favorite things about this show is that my 'the wire' folder is directly next to my 'titcows and braphogs' folder. it's one of the best shows of all time for this fact alone.
jimmy went pig hunting that night
the blonde he "saved from bunk" was the best one, and he even said he "really liked her" when asked by bunk next time
Just a reminder that if Stringer wasn't a moron rat. That Avon would have wiped Marlo out in a night and had his corners. Technically the police fricked up because letting marlo live meant more bodies and horrific ones too.
Prove me wrong.
how much milage do you think herc got out of that story walking in on the mayor's blowjob? it's too good not to retell after you get shitcanned and the guy is out of office, right?
he probably even told levy
>Herc nervously walking back down the hall and glancing up at the portraits of previous mayors
the ending of season 3 was so kino
stringer put away avon by choosing business over the street (snitching) and avon helped facilitate stringer's death by choosing the street (his word/reputation) over business
That's what I said, double.
>best season opening: S5
>best ending montage: S3
we're all in agreement, right?
yeah, probably
Im halfway s5 and think its boring AF but only few episodes left.
you must be an 80 iq moron, we don't need your opinion
No i aint no Black person.
This whole show is plain dumb, but thats probally cause its based in the US and employee's are afraid of their "boss"
so your criticism is the show is dumb and that's because of authoritarianism, yea sure, is the world also flat according to you?
Just a fine life.
>WHAT I TELL YOU ABOUT PLAYING DEM FRICKING AWAY GAMES?
Avon had Stringer figured out
>they saw your ghetto ass coming from miles away
Avon was streets ahead
*drinks*
kinda tragic. he's an amazing detective, but the work destroys him. he turns his life around and cleans up when he gets some low level patrol gig, but cant help getting back into the action.
I shan't forgive him for fricking up what he had with Beadie
think he made soup with her panties?
He seemed to be mending it by the end
Kino show
Lotta Banes.
>mfw dukie
most gangster one on the whole show
AYO LOCK THAT THREAD
>awwwe shucks b i see you shinin an sheet