The real embarrassing part was right at the beginning when he went to that college professor and asked him and he proceeded to give what looked to be a very detailed and thorough answer, so they just edited out the audio of him talking and just played music over it because it would kind of ruin their movie if he just went to an expert and got an academic answer in under 5 minutes
>Matt Walsh left out the entire basic argument about how sex isn’t gender
That only makes the transgender fiction more ridiculous though
Sex as gender is the only tenable view which is why its the one we've always used
Trannies don't believe in sex either; this is a rhetorically dishonest maneuver.
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The mind-body problem ruined centuries of humanity. It's impossible for you to be a rational materialist and also a liberal.
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Yes, it's ridiculous and dishonest. Transexuals acknowledge sex as this real thing, so that they can "become" that gender.
Yeah no shit sex is a real thing, no one denies that
>No it isn’t at all lol it’s a very simple concept
Not really. If woman isn't based on sex then its just a social convention that is a collection of sexist tropes about females. At which point the term has no real content and its meaningless. If a woman can include every feature of a man the word has no use.
that's the whole idea. to make the things that matter to us, love, family, meaningless. to push impressionable people into destruction by perverting their desire to play fair and get along. I just watched a guy who was trying to get the most low level pussy trick himself into fricking the grossest, least-passing troony to impress them and then both him and the troony break down when they realized what they'd done to each other. they want us all so confused that we collapse our natural way of life because the most obvious rules that govern our communities have been turned upside down.
I just watched a guy who was trying to get the most low level pussy trick himself into fricking the grossest, least-passing troony to impress them and then both him and the troony break down >I just watched
for what fricking purpose?
4 months ago
Anonymous
why do I come here and watch chinks get sucked into industrial lathes or cartel killers make dudes wear their best friends skinned off faces
4 months ago
Anonymous
you dont though. that was like a decade ago. now you'll get banned for sharing a funny video that isn't even gore but some troony janny perceives it as such
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'll give you pickings are slim tonight but
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4 months ago
Anonymous
gif is pretty based aside from the Black person trooncords running free. Remarkably similar to the troony discord that made this thread when you think about it.
Thats all true but the cultural right is largely to blame for leaving no wiggle room for people to live out the idiosyncratic parts of life which has empowered the left
We couldn't have gotten to the point where a dude wearing nail polish feels like he has to cut his dick off without all the conservatards screeching about how nail polish makes you a woman
4 months ago
Anonymous
people are miserable because our civilization has reached the point in its life cycle where most people are useless and the media fed everyone an easy (and false) explanation for why they feel that way. used to be add, then clinical depression, then autism, now it's transgenderism. eventually the disastrous side effects of people believing them will become widely accepted and they'll have to come up with another scapegoat disorder.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Lmfao yeah sure thing buddy. You cutting your dick off is the fault of the people laughing at your nail polish.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The opposite is true, you fricking idiot. The problem is there is no actual right wing. Current "conservatives" are just democrats from the 1990s. Wearing nail polish does make you a gay, and you should be thrown in a gas chamber. The only solution to the current problem is fascism. Degenerate subhumans like you need to be rounded up and put in concentration camps. The world is overpopulated as it is, we have no use for you undesirables.
4 months ago
Anonymous
anti-social and argumentative, with no manual labour skills and a long history of lazyness, you will be sitting right next to the trannies in the fascist gas chamber, chud
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You aren’t a “real” conservative unless you openly advocate and perform genocide
>if I pretend to be a moron I win
lmao >statistically significent
it doesn't need to be significant. We're arguing about definitions. Your definition does not hold up.
>Nothing is real bro it's all a social construct
Trannies aren't women because I know what a woman is, and trannies aren't women. >Works Cited:
Me and everyone else in this thread who disagrees with you, because it's all a social construct :^)
This "social construct" argument has always been rhetorically dishonest bullshit. You're framing a moral debate as an epistomological one because you're an intellectually dishonest cynic who mistakes subversion for intelligence.
female with disability. a defect female if you will, something went wrong during pregnancy
[...] >gender is not the same as sex
yes it is >They’re always happier after being allowed to live as a woman instead of repressing it
good for them, i genuinely want people to be happy. i'll call a trans person "she" if they ask me to out of politeness and kindness, but that's not what we're talking about here. it *is* pretend
See, you people even admit it. You don't believe in any of this gender ideology. It's just a convenient self-serving way to signal your compliance with social etiquite.
>See, you people even admit it. You don't believe in any of this gender ideology
what do you mean "you people"? i repeatedly stated that i don't believe in transgenderism
>Sex as gender
pretty sure gender is about social norms though. sex is innate stuff, but gender is murky. the whole color pink used to be a boy's color type stuff.
Ok, then all trans, queers and pronoun-people should invent other words for their gender expression and not use biological defined ones like male and female.
what about that?
I don't think gender dysphoria simply happens without any underlying cause, which I suspect might be a trauma or a pre-existing mental condition (autism?).
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah the trauma is called having to deal with life as a man. Cutting your dick off is the easy way out
4 months ago
Anonymous
you're a real scientist, autism also has underlying causes, all illnesses do.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>autism also has underlying causes
which is? Wasn't aware that is already well investigated.
4 months ago
Anonymous
nta but aren't some causes things like the mother being too old or microplastics?
4 months ago
Anonymous
afaik these causes were suggested but not confirmed at all
Trans"women" call themselves "female." The whole "gender is different from sex" argument was always a trojan horse to trick people into accepting subversion of human biology.
Gender shouldn't even be a term. There's sex, and secondary sexual characteristics. Anything else like how one dresses is just societal, and has no basis in biology. There are things, certain behaviors, like being more maternal or liking to tinker with machines, which are aptterns shown to be more prevelent in one sex or the other. This can either be linked to their brain structure/hormones or societal pressure, or a little of both, but "gender" as a term in of itself is just rhetorical propaganda and needs to not be used or taught. It's just the perfect weasel word for scewing definitions and fricking up basic conversation. If a kid is acting outside the norm it's hormonal or structural imbalances. They're not the opposite "gender". This is how it SHOULD be viewed, but israelites and trannies poisoned the well.
>"gender" as a term in of itself is just rhetorical propaganda and needs to not be used or taught.
that's what I considered too, that no one should bother with a bajillion "genders" and should just have nothing. then I wondered about how messy that is. it's not very useful for most people conflate sex and gender, and it's very taxing to continually generate new more provocative genders. I'm really not sure what some of that stuff is meant to convey, it's just garbled.
Trannies don't believe in sex either; this is a rhetorically dishonest maneuver.
its not made up. children are why society gives women special status. if youre not making children you are a man. if youre having sex with someone who isnt making children you are gay
All definitions are made up you donut
>We're all meat puppets synthesizing protein chains bound by causality >actually everything is socially constructed and humans have like souls and shit
The mind-body problem ruined centuries of humanity. It's impossible for you to be a rational materialist and also a liberal.
>Matt Walsh left out the entire basic argument about how sex isn’t gender
That only makes the transgender fiction more ridiculous though
Sex as gender is the only tenable view which is why its the one we've always used
Yes, it's ridiculous and dishonest. Transexuals acknowledge sex as this real thing, so that they can "become" that gender.
Yeah I don't have any problem with transsexuals personally if they're really willing to commit that hard. I figure in 100 or so years the tech will get us to the point where being cis or trans or whatever will be like getting GMO free or gluten free women. Some guys will care some guys won't. The technology now is bad, but the principle is sound.
lol not only that but even in biology sex isnt as cut and dry as male or female. Theres tons of different chromosomal expressions of human sex alone, not to even mention all the crazy shit that animals can do with their sex.
nobody bad a problem with terms like mankind and postman and congressman until people started trying to say women dont need to have children to be valid.
we need to go back. back to common sense. back to nature. women are for making babies and deserve special status for doing so.
4 months ago
Anonymous
okay, moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you wouldnt talk to me like that if i were a woman with a juicy fertile c**t
4 months ago
Anonymous
the adults are talking. Go back to your juicebox.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>back to nature
yeah, I should be allowed to kill all children that arent mine. because thats what lions do and nature is the moral benchmark we should aim for
4 months ago
Anonymous
it's normal for lions, dipshit
you sure won't see any off them getting their dicks surgically inverted and using dialators
Thats bullshit.
The only gradient variant is SR-Y, when an XX persion got a hinch of a Y chromosome, in particular the SR-Y part. Then, you are on a 6 stage spectrum with 1 being female and 6 being male. you dont have a vegana at 2 and are infertile all between. It's called a disability.
All other chromosome variants, doesn't matter if XXY, XXXY or XXXXXY is always a man.
There is only male and female.
If you want a definition, its the potential ability to prduce eggcells during your lifetime. Everything else is either way a man or a disability.
>if I pretend to be a moron I win
lmao >statistically significent
it doesn't need to be significant. We're arguing about definitions. Your definition does not hold up.
It's a woman with disability.
Now we have to dig deeper. Why is she born without ovaries? was it an accident during cell division in embryonal state? Then the potential, as I wrote, is/was there. Does it have chromosomial causes? Then it depends why, but most certainly it would be not a female, but a strongly diabled person.
All potential humans start as female. By your logic men don't exist. >humans have two legs, are people with one leg not human?
if your defining humans as having two legs then they aren't.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>All potential humans start as female. By your logic men don't exist.
Your logic is deeply flawed. With your "argumentation", you could also state all humans start as unicellular lifeforms and are therefore macrobes, not humans.
4 months ago
Anonymous
thats your argument exactly though.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No it is absolutely not.
I repeat: A woman is a human with the potential ability to produce eggcells during her lifetime.
Extrapolating your argument from this definition is called functional analphabetism.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>if I just refuse to answer basic questions about my argument I win
lmao okay
4 months ago
Anonymous
you didn't read the potential part nor did you understand it and now you are on the run. grow up.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you failed to answer even the most basic of questions about your definition because it doesn't hold up to even the slightest logical scrutiny.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I think everyone can read that you are projecting. The funny part is we are not in a in-person debate where whatever was just said isn't recorded. your level of denial is hilarious.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
4 months ago
Anonymous
template fallacies. you are copy catting. I could code all your argumentation bc heard that often enough and I am not even a coder, lol.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>still hasn't answered the question
yawn
4 months ago
Anonymous
I did, you just have been too occupied having a tantrum, lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
you really didn't though, you just said the question was unimportant.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I recommend scrolling up and read again, because you clearly didn't.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not true, you start as one-cell XX or XY, in case of no disabilties. That already predefines your sex. Later XX developes ovaries and XY testicles. Arguing, that before any visible sexual organs, all fetuses are femaile is nonsense.
4 months ago
Anonymous
all zygotes start with two x chromosomes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>zygotes
Lol no, it has only 23 chromosomes and that "lifeform" is not able to replicate or survive, hence is by common definition not even alife.
4 months ago
Anonymous
now you're arguing that cells aren't alive lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
a virus isn't alive either. the definition is surviveability and reproduction.
The zygote alone is not alive, further combination with the sperm DNA changes that and by that time you have eityher way XX, XY or a disability.
4 months ago
Anonymous
cells are alive. I don't even know how you can dumb enough to believe they aren't. Also, you are so inept at logic you are inadvertently arguing that there is a third gender since "disability" fits neither definition for the other two genders.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No, that is not the definition of life.
Life is replicating and can survive, which is why some form of organism are questiuonable to fulfill that definition and is still a debate within academia. A famous example are fungi. Because something is organit (protein chains) it doesn't mean it's a live. Your steak on your plate is certainly not alife. A virus is not alive yet it reproduces. etc.
Simply being echauffeured because your believes get challenged and display a low set of knowledge isnt getting you the claps
4 months ago
Anonymous
>cells can be dead so that means all cells are dead
4 months ago
Anonymous
cells are dead if they can't preplicate, correct.
if a cell can preclicate, its alife.
if it can't it's not.
Got it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
do you think zygotes don't replicate? How do they become a fetus if not through mitosis
4 months ago
Anonymous
it's not a zygote by this point. zygotes are a short stage of a cell in development, not the final product. If the rest of the sperm DNA wouldn't combine, for hwatever reason, it will not become any life form.
You dont have zygotes flying around in nature and working at Amazon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
so since they dont work at Amazon they arent alive?
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes!! lol. I wonder how people like you make it through highschool with a degree and all teeth intact.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Virus are alive, just because they don't fit an arbitraty definition doesn't make them not exist
4 months ago
Anonymous
look, life is a definition in biology.
you mistake life with existing. a stone exists too.
a virus is a broken off DNA fragment. that happens more often than people know. some tiny fraction of that happenings are DNA fragments that can actually dock on a cell and get it to replicate that fragment. sometimes this replication kills the cell. by biological standards, since a virus is not able to reprocude by itself, it is not a set of >life<
4 months ago
Anonymous
>since a virus is not able to reprocude by itself, it is not a set of >life<
Call it anti-life for all I care
The definition being "only if it reproduces ITSELF, it's life!" is arbitrary, and you cannot deny this.
There's no "biological" reason as to why a living organism can't replicate and reproduce using others, there's only a subjective reason
If there were 200 different organisms that does that, you'll be forced to include them too, currently viruses are just an inconvenient example just to broaden the definition and encompass them too
4 months ago
Anonymous
sure, totally agreed. it is arbitrary, but with a reason, because its practical.
Back then, when DNA was discovered and viruses understood, fungi replication as well, the definition became a bit wonky. if you include virus though, it would be even more wonky because it now encompasses more questionable stuff. so its still up for debate.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Stop propogating this nonsense. You don't suddenly change a chromosomal pairing later. You start off XX or XY for the vast majority, assuming development has gone smoothly. "Everyone starts off female" refers to external appendages and organs that haven't formed yet.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>what is chromosomal inactivation
this is basic biology, you morons have no idea what you're even talking about lol
human yes, a capable sprinter no.
no ovaries because of chromosomial causes? Human yes, female? questionable.
4 months ago
Anonymous
female with disability. a defect female if you will, something went wrong during pregnancy
It’s not pretend, gender is not the same as sex. They’re always happier after being allowed to live as a woman instead of repressing it
>gender is not the same as sex
yes it is >They’re always happier after being allowed to live as a woman instead of repressing it
good for them, i genuinely want people to be happy. i'll call a trans person "she" if they ask me to out of politeness and kindness, but that's not what we're talking about here. it *is* pretend
4 months ago
Anonymous
It is though. Check the dictionary
4 months ago
Anonymous
which part did you reply to? learn to quote please
Trying to work XXY or other genetically defective people into male or female is a waste of time. They are edge cases. They are 0.001% of the population. You don't change your definitions for machine errors like that.
other anon already said it. XXY is a male.
XXXY too, etc.
One Y is enough to trigger male development. The additional Xs don't matter in thsi case, except for other associated disabilities.
Thats a simplification though. There are many species that reproduce in ways we would generally not consider to follow the male/female binary. Snails, for example, can literally become pregnant and also impregnate.
would you consider someone with both sets of genitalia male or female?
4 months ago
Anonymous
no one has both sets of genitalia, it will be on a 6 stage scale with everything between will not be both and will not be able to have kids.
If you want to read more:
-Klinefelter Syndrome
-Swyer Syndrome
4 months ago
Anonymous
we're talking about snails. Snails have both sets of genitalia. Are they male or female?
4 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn't matter.
We're talking about women, not snails.
Just because you can point to a snail or a tree that have both sex organs/cells, that doesn't affect the argument about human women.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The question was about the non-binary thing, not if they are male or female. snails are still on the binary paradigm.
4 months ago
Anonymous
If they have a Y chromosome, they're male. Any other abnormality is a woman with a defect. This is the answer anti trooners should give.
No going to scour the troonyposting to see if anyone said it, but the answer is any adult lacking a Y chromosome. That's it. That includes all the weird chromosomal abnormalites and shit out there, infertiles, etc. if they have a Y, they're a guy. Simple as.
Anyone without a Y is a woman, regardless of how they want to present themselves.
shit's weird, everyone knows sex is a binary male & female. they're counterparts that interplay with one another. I mean shit, even the terminology: male, and fe male, come on.
now if you want to play with gender, dressing up as the opposite sex, have at it. it's all gay.
The only two contexts in which gender does not mean sex are in grammar (where some words are masculine or feminine even if they refer to things that don't have sexes) and in some older feminist theory (where "gender" is shorthand for the social expectations and socialization process that you're supposedly subjected to by reason of your sex). It most certainly isn't some disembodied essence separate from your physical body.
>Gender >Generation >Genitalia
It's almost like our contemporary use of the word gender is recent newspeak to serve the whims of a deranged, ideologically driven section of our population hell bent on spreading their suicidal inclinations throughout the West.
troony shit is purely born of our decadent decline, it's a natural response of our dying culture that's instinctually seeking its own demise.
Trannies don't accept the "basic argument about how sex isn’t gender" either or else they wouldn't have a problem when people point out that they're just men pretending to be women.
>sex isn’t gender
That's the point. Gender is pseudo-scientific bullshit. It doesn't exist. The only reason it was accepted is because American christcucks like Walsh are too puritan to use the word "sex", so everyone just assumed gender was just a synonym instead of a batshit insane concept made up by some pedo.
Okay so I have a question. What is that? After they turn your sack into a "vegana", you have to put something in your "vegana" otherwise it is going to heal and seal up?
Obviously I understand that I just assumed that when the surgery is done it's like somewhat of an actual pussy. I thought the surgery is more advanced.
So if you are a trans you have to get someone to frick your wound everyday or put like a dildo or something up it? Hahaha that's actually fricking funny
Yes
You cannot actually "have" a vegana it's basically an open thing that the body tries to seal up to preserve the biological structure.
You can't make a hole in the middle of your stomach to have a cool open window that you pass your arm through.
For you it may be aesthetic and may want to produce that and keep it that way, but for your cells is literally "WTF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE WE NEED TO FIX THIS" and you will never stop that from happening
watch watched a bizarre sex stream where there were two couples playing a sex version of monopoly, one couple a fat ugly white girl and a HIDEOUS mtf dude and normal white dude and his ftm "boyfriend" and they gradually got drunker and drunker until they started fooling around with each other which especially the fat girl didn't seem comfortable with and the normal dude kept wanting to frick her but didn't have the balls to make the move so after a couple of hours of it not happening he finally fricked her troony BOYFRIEND instead and came up the dudes ass and the troony immediately realized he'd just gotten fricked by a dude for the first time and broke down and it everything got very awkward and he locked himself in the bathroom and man was that some crazy shit to watch the last day of the year
looking for something to whack off to, ended up watching a bizarre social disaster by accident lmao
right now the ftm just said reddit was too aggressive for her
a woman is an adult female human who is capable of naturally producing children or has already naturally produced children
if it cant create children or wasted the opportunity it is not a woman
there are no exceptions
its not made up. children are why society gives women special status. if youre not making children you are a man. if youre having sex with someone who isnt making children you are gay
non scientist here and i could've told you that. the part that really intrigues me is when scientists cite other work that is obviously flawed and pound it into their model or work so it relies so heavily on it, yet one glance at the underlying work would have someone asking what the hell is this.
science is far more about getting your name on a few papers and getting yourself in the media than it is actually studying stuff (unless its for a big corporation, then you'll agree 100% of the time with the person sponsoring your research)
Unironically and sadly ironically Science worked much better when all the scientists believed in God, and believed that it was a holy duty to honestly attempt to understand the nature of his reality and learn his natural laws.
The Enlightenment spread both Rationalism and the Scientific Method and condoned freedom of conscience to be Atheistic. Now it's all finally falling apart.
>Unironically and sadly ironically Science worked much better when all the scientists believed in God
i've made this point a bunch of times when talking with people. all the best scientists were religious and trying to figure out how their god works. its only in the last 100, maybe a bit longer, years that science has become not only detached from religion but antagonistic toward it
Science is real, it’s just not some magical book of answers leftists seem to think it is recently.
It’s simply a process of figuring something out, it doesn’t necessarily mean the results are correct but by following the scientific process you’re closer to a replicatable answer than before, and if you can replicate your experiment and thought process it means your on the road to the right answer.
the recent British documentary was better, definitely a lot less glitzy however (just talking heads and it STILL looks like it was made in Windows Movie Maker).
get an actual documentary filmmaker to handle this one.
and they are ignored, rejected, and ridiculed when they go out in public. trannies got what they asked for and are being poor sports because they dont like it (also very much like real women)
Any kind of Y in your chain? male.
Every single time.
XXXY ... male
Also note, trisomy or any kind of polysomy is a disability, not a feature. Most of the times, these people are infertile, have a below average IQ and have some other disabilities. It's not meant to happen.
i feel bad for trans people and empathize with them, i really do. but pretending they're something they're not just because you want to spare their feelings is madness. it's what you do with children who believe in santa
I dont check everyones genitals and chromosomes before starting a conversation.
They just tell me their name and I call them that. this has solved all troony issues in my life instantly
but that's not what we're talking about here at all. we're talking about biology, not social norms
im not gonna start harassing people who ask me to call them "she"
you don't find it weird that not playing someone elses pretend game can end your career a bit disturbing? and this is from the crowd that calls themselves tolerant
you honestly think its normal for there to be "consequences" for not calling a dude a woman?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>if I'm a disrespectful butthole people wont like me, life is so unfair!
4 months ago
Anonymous
>i look like man, sound like a man, walk like a man, but if you call don't call me shirley i'll have you canceled
you're just being dishonest at best. no one actually believes this dribble.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are an evil sack of shit. Kys.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't bother "debating" with this type of person. They're sadists that enjoy enforcing social norms because it makes them feel smart and powerful.
every troony argument is about social norms. the biological argument is just a gotcha for one side or the other. literally every troony knows that they will never be biological women, but thats not even what they want in the first place.
its about presenting and being read as another gender, not literally changing chromosomes
that's just one part of ut, we have seen TONS of bullshit pseudoscience over the years where they represent defects and disabilities as proof that sex isn't binary. you're seeing it in this very thread
the problem is trannies arent only demanding to be accepted as women. they are demanding to be accepted as attractive women. 99% are not even passable as unattractive women. they dont want acceptance they want society to enable their mental illness.
Define harassment. What if my daughter comes to me crying because some degenerate 6'2'' senior in a dress pulled his dick out in the girls bathroom but the school says it's perfectly fine so I end up beating the snot out of the kid and getting away with it because my lawyer's a fancy Manhattan turbojew? Is that harassment? Because to me it felt like righteous self-defense.
theres a female i work with. shes about 40, decent looking, would but not really my type. anyway the other day she tells me she is voluntarily childfree. up until this point i had considered her a woman and valued her insight. now shes no different than a 40 year old man who hasnt figured out he wasted his life chasing random pussy so i dont talk to her anymore. shes no more a woman than i am.
>Trannies still seethe in these threads years later
Lmao.
Definition.
(1) Adult human female. Ex: That woman is pregnant with a child.
(2) A generalized category for any or all female humans. Ex: Women's rights for equality before the law.
Unless you were born with two XX chromosomes, a vegana, and a uterus, you are not a woman, and can never become one.
Don't try the separation between sex and gender trick. It doesn't work. When you are imitating/adopting the "woman gender" what is it that you are imitating? You want people to believe that you are a true human female (XX), not just a male (XY) that is wearing women's clothes and makeup. Admit it. The Gender/Sex distinction is a canard, intended to pawn off disinterested normies who have no desire to ask more than a single question and receive a plausible answer and then getting as far away from this mental illness as they can. Anyone who looks deeper realizes it is a false answer and circular logic. That means all trannies are knowingly lying to themselves and others or completely moronic to have bought their own lie.
>Don't try the separation between sex and gender trick. It doesn't work.
It actually does work when you consider sex as material and gender as metaphysical. Doing that alone uncovers a lot of imbeciles. For example: the dumbass materialists who think experience can be found in the material, i.e. wearing X makes me "feel" like Y; or the super dumbass argument about brains and how trannies supposedly have "female"-like brains, thus have some innate "feeling" of them.
Nevermind the other issue of self-reference as a point of intuiting another's experience and then propping that up through material aesthetic.
Anyway, this whole discussion is dumb because you'll always find some overlap of definitions that could include X or Y and Wittgenstein already went over this decades ago. People talk disingenuously in here but if you invoke a word an image immediately pops into their head of that thing that doesn't need formal elucidation.
Nature vs nurture. We have biological hardware and it makes sense to want to promote man and woman for our natural evolutionary socio-cultural neural mechanisms and reproduction. At some level there is an existential question about what our essence truly is, but in a world where god is dead people are stuck picking up the pieces of meaning and existence for themselves. >self reference for others
Exactly there is no communal world view anymore all we can do is say “well here is what I think and I know I’m potentially wrong and others think different.” It’s the existential impasse of our time to wrestle with essence over experience. Trannies are fricking stupidly mentally ill either way
No going to scour the troonyposting to see if anyone said it, but the answer is any adult lacking a Y chromosome. That's it. That includes all the weird chromosomal abnormalites and shit out there, infertiles, etc. if they have a Y, they're a guy. Simple as.
Furries are a hidden niche in the internet or secluded in cons. They are degenerates that want to be alone.
Feminazis are a big rally with flashing colors and loud mouths. You can spot them from a mile, and leave them alone.
troonys are a coverted movement that is promoted by subterfuge in kid's media and gaslighting in normal media passing it as something "normal" and you are required to accept them.
Seriously, why are leftist so dead set on dying on this hill of trannies? Its obviously that they are NOT real women, but just mentally ill men to various degrees who either wear womens clothing or get cosmetic surgeries in a pathetic attempt to appear like a woman.
Im starting to get the impression that leftist just like ugly, macbre, and weird things and want that shoved on people for some reason.
leftism is about perpetual victimhood because they don't want to do any actual work or stand for something. they just want to signal to others that they do, hence the twitter facebook flags and stuff. even when everyone (pretends) to agree with them they'll still find something wrong with it
Progressives are hypersocialized and will just go along with whatever as long as it lets them feel intellectually or morally superior to "white trash", "chuds", etc, etc.
>leftism is about perpetual victimhood
this coming from thew guy who thinks its tyranny to be respectful of other peoples identities lmao
That's right, keep sneering homosexual. Want to guess why queer acceptance is dropping? It's your own anti-social behavior.
low angle shot to put focus on his beard that hides his weak chin and jaw because his hairline and hairstyle is atrocious
bruh look at this dude
look at the top of his head
>gender is murky
No it isn’t, troony. You aren’t a woman.
isn't all this trans stuff some kind of sexual orientation though? I don't know how everyone likes to argue them all and what not. I just know common sense wise it's probably a bad idea to mutilate your body in some ways I've heard about. I think the best way to combat all the zaniness is to probably give gays a mile. Let them have free reign in their gayness I reckon. Dress like a girl, buttfrick one another, but I fully recommend to not dissect your genitalia.
Those that have trannies on their mind 24/7. Can't have a conversation about anything these days cause morons come out of the woodwork to spout their regurgitated nonsense about such a small percentage of people
Since everyone is full ears about the topic, lets learn something new:
XXX-females.
Triple X syndrome, also called trisomy X or 47,XXX, where one X chromosome is too much lead to extra genetic material while developing females.
Now comes the interesting part:
In average, they are taller, more widened eye distance and are considered more beatiful. Also, in average, they are 10 IQ points below XX females.
>autism also has underlying causes,
1:1000
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/triple-x-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20350977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisomy_X
This is literally the exact equivalent to leftoids and the term nazi. People talk more about things they don't like politically than things they do like politically. Go figure.
I don't get this take.
I wouldn't call troony porn 'pro-troony' in the same way I wouldn't call BLACKED porn 'pro-black'.
The fact that you can't distinguish between the commercial and deeply inauthentic sexual objectification of a particular demographic and that demographic having rights or equal political standing tells me that you will never be a woman, because you don't know what one is. Instead, you're busy trying to become the girlfriend you never had.
Many such cases!
And yet you have no rebuttal. Curious!
It reminds me of when troons do the "ACKtually Hitler was gay and Nazis were crossdressers according to new studies by Professor Historyberg".
So, what's your point? Being a gay crossdresser is bad when Nazis do it but good when you do it? It's absolutely incoherent and thoughtless. The only conclusion is that you're giving a programmed NPC response rather than trying to advance discussion intellectually.
>I wouldn't call BLACKED porn 'pro-black'.
because you're behind the curve. it's a porn about black men fricking white women. it's as pro black as any piece of media could possibly be. it endorses mixing races like no other.
The one behind the curve is you. You're equivocating anti-white and pro-black. The real answer is that BLACKED porn is overtly anti-white and covertly anti-black.
If you have to ask yourself who this is in service of, look no further than the israeli pornographer who produced it.
>I wouldn't call BLACKED porn 'pro-black'.
because you're behind the curve. it's a porn about black men fricking white women. it's as pro black as any piece of media could possibly be. it endorses mixing races like no other.
Not a troon, but their logic here is that you shouldn't be "defined" by your biology. Say, just because you're a man you aren't banned from wearing dresses. Sure, you shouldn't, but that only makes you a man wearing dresses, not a woman.
You're at least 10 years behind on troony propaganda. At this point their ideology is "When I put on the skirt I AM a girl!" and they literally think that a boy who wants to wear a dress must be trans because there's no such thing as just being a transvestite in their minds. Trannies today have a 1950s notion of gender roles; they see a boy wear nail polish and declare he is literally a girl in a boy's body because it's not possible in their minds for a boy to just like nail polish but also still be a boy and even be straight.
The real solution is telling boys that they can wear a dress if they like and that it doesn't make them any less of a boy because boyhood is a fact of their biology. Then you just let it run its course and 99% of the time they grow out of it soon enough. The problem is telling them that wearing a dress makes them less masculine or more girly, that's what ends up fricking them up and turning them into trannies later in life. Ever noticed how troony origin stories always go like this: >I just always felt like I was a girl, for as long as I can even remember. I always played with dolls and wanted to dress in girl clothes.
My theory on this is that when they were very very young they were told by adults, "No, you can't do that, it's a GIRL thing that ONLY GIRLS do!" and then their stupid little kid brain translated that into "I can't help that I like these girl things, and if only girls like them then I must be a girl." If they hadn't been browbeaten into the whole "that's only for girls" thing they probably wouldn't have become trannies and would just be dudes with effeminate interests (assuming they didn't just grow out of it).
Body dysmorphia is commonly associated with troony origin stories, go figure they have a silver bullet solution to why they hate themselves.
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And body dysmorphia, I believe, comes from being told at a young age that they need to stop doing girl/boy things and be more of a boy/girl. It implants this sense of wrongness about themselves that develops into massive body image issues later on.
9/10 if your son says he wants to be girl, asking him what he thinks a girl is or does gets you answers about being able to do certain things that boys seemingly aren't allowed to.
I've had the same thing but with a family friend's daughter. Says she wants to be a boy because they get to play sports and she's told she can't join the boy's five-a-side team.
The easiest fix is to let her onto a girls team somewhere rather than tell her she's a boy.
Yes, exactly. I remember hearing a story about a 5 year old who told his dad that he's gay. Instead of freaking out, the dad asked why and the boy said, "Because I love you but you're a boy." The dad just explained that's not what gay means and the boy just carried on as normal.
Then just let them express themselves how they want and if they’re trans they’ll be trans and if they’re not they won’t be. Just be a normal supportive parent that’s all anyone asks
If you let them express themselves they won't become trans, that's the point.
9/10 if your son says he wants to be girl, asking him what he thinks a girl is or does gets you answers about being able to do certain things that boys seemingly aren't allowed to.
I've had the same thing but with a family friend's daughter. Says she wants to be a boy because they get to play sports and she's told she can't join the boy's five-a-side team.
The easiest fix is to let her onto a girls team somewhere rather than tell her she's a boy.
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Then just let them express themselves how they want and if they’re trans they’ll be trans and if they’re not they won’t be. Just be a normal supportive parent that’s all anyone asks
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Yeah. that's kinda what I was getting at. Sure you might end up with a gay kid but at least that kid isn't going to be taking puberty blockers because of stupid reasons.
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Some kids will have dysphoria and the best way to treat that is with hormones and helping them be more comfortable with their bodies. I was undecided too until you realise 99% of them say exactly that so what are you gonna do just tell them you know them better than they do?
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Kids during puberty need to go through that puberty so their organs, especially their heart, mature to be the right size. No blockers, no HRT.
The consequences of not being able to complete their puberty means that eventually their body just gives up trying to make it happen. Their heart does not grow, their brain does not develop, their bones are brittle - they are stuck in arrested development and it should be considered horrible malpriactice to give any young child blockers.
If you are a young boy who wants to eventually have vaginoplasty, the best thing is to let your penis develop so you don't have to use part of your colon to make the hole instead.
And that's not even me going into how there's so many reasons dysphoria, even gender dysphoria, can develop. Trauma, sexual abuse, autism, schizophrenia, bipolar, and narcissism have been found in transgender patients. How much of that contributes to the negative feelings they have about their sex characterisitcs?
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>just let your kid be influenced by anything as long as I tell him good boy
Are you moronic? Do you have no morals or outlook on life? Having a kid doesn’t just mean that I get to have no say in what I think is right or wrong, troony ideology is moronic, gay ideology is moronic and dogmatic. Every family is a ship and someone needs to run it.
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If you have a trans kid they will hate you.
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Trans kids don't exist.
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normal, and supportive?
niggy, it ain't normal to wear dresses when you're male. you gay af fr, lol.
4 months ago
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According to your specific values which no one cares about. Times are changing gramps
Trans kids don't exist.
Yeah they do
4 months ago
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times are 'a changing
that's like, another way to say the world is becoming gayer.
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Abuse victims exist. Trans kids are like vegan dogs. They're only that way because their caretakers failed to raise them properly. Whether that's letting freaks online or at school talk them into it or they do it themselves by saying what a boy can or can't do and vise versa with girls. I child in a vacuum never gave two shits about the context of what.the color pink or playing with dolls or wanting to play sports entails. They just do what they like. >muh dysmorphia
Every child at some point becomes self concious of their body. That's normal. Entertaining tannyism is like entertaining eating disorders. Neither is really fixing the issue.
No, they quite literally don’t. They just respect those people who choose to conform to traditional gender expressions as a means of realising their identity
solution: do not let boys wear dresses, funny that this seems to have been the norm. since forever really.
The world was a shitty backwards place since forever and now people are realising they don’t need to confirm to nonsense social norms just bc they’re there
>No, they quite literally don’t.
Yes, they literally do. If a child has any non-gender-conforming behavior they are told that makes them a troony because trannies don't see gender as an incidental part of a person's biology but instead as a DEFINING TRAIT that must be adhered to perfectly or else you have the wrong defining trait that must be fixed. It's also the same reason that trannies always turn into an absolutely ridiculous caricature of their desired gender (MtFs only wearing dresses and skirts, FtMs always wearing wifebeaters) instead of just behaving like a fricking person.
The real solution is telling boys that they can wear a dress if they like and that it doesn't make them any less of a boy because boyhood is a fact of their biology. Then you just let it run its course and 99% of the time they grow out of it soon enough. The problem is telling them that wearing a dress makes them less masculine or more girly, that's what ends up fricking them up and turning them into trannies later in life. Ever noticed how troony origin stories always go like this: >I just always felt like I was a girl, for as long as I can even remember. I always played with dolls and wanted to dress in girl clothes.
My theory on this is that when they were very very young they were told by adults, "No, you can't do that, it's a GIRL thing that ONLY GIRLS do!" and then their stupid little kid brain translated that into "I can't help that I like these girl things, and if only girls like them then I must be a girl." If they hadn't been browbeaten into the whole "that's only for girls" thing they probably wouldn't have become trannies and would just be dudes with effeminate interests (assuming they didn't just grow out of it).
Gender isn't real. The term was pushed by Money the pedophile. It's only sex and its primary and secondary characteristics. Women with more testosterone act more masculine, but they are still women.
If your body doesn't make you a woman why is it that troons try to simulate breasts, grow long hair, shave and in some extreme cases remove their penis
Why is it that Ellen Page had her breasts removed if breasts should be no issue to her supposedly being a man
In fact, why is "transitioning" even a thing if you can just magic word yourself into the "gender" you think you are
Because it's all lies to trick people into playing along with mental illness designed to subvert culture and rape children mentally, spiritually, and physically.
Because:
Queers, lesbians and bis believe in non-binary.
Gays and trannies are hardcode-binary believers.
One day they will meet on a big rainbow parade and slaughter each other.
There is a subset of gays and dykes and bis that don't want to be associated with the T part of LGBT. They routinely get kicked out of pride events because they won't follow the doctrine, despite being part of the in-group themselves.
The snake is going to eat itself in the end. Ugly men trying to pass as lesbians getting more attention in lesbian spaces than the damn lesbos themselves is some fricking irony.
Oh, I'd fricking love for procedures like that to be completely thrown out as medical malpractice. I fricking hate that these hack doctors make forever patients out of vulnerable people. But if someone is so insisitent on destorying their dick then they should at least finish puberty and have a chance to save themselves.
Besides, something like a good 80% of kids who have these feelings grow out of them by the time theyr'e 18.
Most trans people want to transition around the age of 17-18 and are perfectly healthy. The more cishet gender norms are forced on people the more they’ll feel unhappy in their bodies- most of us prefer the non binary view and just want people to accept themselves but often that means hrt and it’s not the health boogeyman it’s made out to be by anti-trans people
>Most trans people want to transition around the age of 17-18 and are perfectly healthy.
Check their histories. Check their relationship with their close family - they have any.
Also check how many also have neurological disorders such as autism. It's been documented before that there is a non-insignificant number of those affected who have disassociation towards their body, how they relate to others, and their sexuality. Sexual obsessions are also not unusual and I have no doubt that horny young men and women are exceedingly vulnerable to chasing that high they get after play as the opposite sex.
Either way, they aren't mentally healthy at all. You can have someone being trans as well as healthy. They are mutually exclusive since it's supposed to be a medical condition, isn't it?
not really, what is more pushed is not incest, but "incest" since many more people are living in a patchwork family.
On this note, a patchwork family is not ideal and not the best thing for a kdis development. Example? Females start their period way earlier, because they are exposed to a non-related male's pheromones in the household.
How does one think that they are another sex or gender or whatever when masculinity and femininity are both apparently social constructs and not real? Doesn't that just make them a man that likes doing things that are normally attributed to women by society?
How did we go from saying little Tommy is a normal boy for playing with Barbies to saying he actually wishes he was a woman and should mutilate his genitals?
They're insane. It's not the fact the believe 2+2=5, it's that they believe 2+2=5 and at the same time 2+2=7. They lack any logic because they're a bunch of narcissistic delusional schizos.
>How did we go from saying little Tommy is a normal boy for playing with Barbies to saying he actually wishes he was a woman and should mutilate his genitals?
why can’t we accept people for how they are?
Yes I know they aren’t a real biological woman, but who cares if a dude cross dresses & wears make up. If it’s not affecting you personally why do u care?
people hide behind ‘muh freedom of religion’ to deny people services & belittle them. It’s pretty hypocritical of them.
Because it's affirming a mental disorder. I don't have any problems with some nutjob thinking he's Napoleon. I do have a problem with society, and health care professionals, saying it's completely normal.
of course it’s not normal. just like being a real schizo isn’t normal nor should it be normalized. But if u accept that nut job being Napoleon, then u can accept a troony.
Transgenderism & allowing minors to be mutilated (surgically) is not something to be pushed mainstream.
But there are some instances where a human may not feel as if they are in the right body. And if it continues it should be consulted over with medical professions who are unbiased and are not trying to push an agenda. And if that feeling continues then slowly allow the start of transitioning and warn them from the start that if surgery is the end goal that it is something that can’t be undone.
From all the crazies involved into this, surgeons and their helpers should receive a life sentence imho, they are the worst right after manipulating teacher and college professors.
It's genuinely dispicable that they're allowed to go after people like this. Adults is one thing, but preying on children and their parents, who don't want little Timmy to kill himself because he's not allowed to cut off his dick - that's truly evil.
The parents who have this whole Munchhausen by proxy type deal with their kids regarding their gender deserve their own circle of hell too.
No one gave a shit when some freaks put on wigs without affecting anyone else, the problem is precisely them trying to make the society pander according to few freaks in every single situation while simultaneously trying to brainwash your kids into mutilating their genitals.
I literally don't care and never go out of my way to be a dick in public. I see trannies at my job occasionally and avoid "ma'am" or "sir" when addressing them because I don't need the drama. I'm just as civil with people with tourettes and schizophrenia when I happen to see them in public. I vehemently oppose people spreading medical disinfo, not treating these people for what they are, which is mentally ill and in need of treatment. Whether getting them back to normal or letting them live that way is better for them is their decision. However, a lot of therapists and surgeons see a lucrative money making opportunity flipping dicks inside out and pumping people full of chemicals, and all they care about is profit and having permanent clientele (unless they off themselves, but they don't care). That, plus the truly perverse individuals grooming innocent vulnerable people, including kids, is where I draw the line.
100% correct, every word.
And I strongly believe we are in the majority.
Life and let life, but don't bullshit the public, don't frame history and get your hands off of children and mentally vulnerable persons.
Matt Walsh left out the entire basic argument about how sex isn’t gender and couldn’t even answer what a woman was when asked himself. What a loser.
The real embarrassing part was right at the beginning when he went to that college professor and asked him and he proceeded to give what looked to be a very detailed and thorough answer, so they just edited out the audio of him talking and just played music over it because it would kind of ruin their movie if he just went to an expert and got an academic answer in under 5 minutes
No that professor was a fricking idiot and did none of that you troony
You lie just like you lie to yourself Everytime you look back into mirror
Pathetic
>Matt Walsh left out the entire basic argument about how sex isn’t gender
That only makes the transgender fiction more ridiculous though
Sex as gender is the only tenable view which is why its the one we've always used
No it isn’t at all lol it’s a very simple concept
Yeah no shit sex is a real thing, no one denies that
Not by one tard on Cinemaphile though
>No it isn’t at all lol it’s a very simple concept
Not really. If woman isn't based on sex then its just a social convention that is a collection of sexist tropes about females. At which point the term has no real content and its meaningless. If a woman can include every feature of a man the word has no use.
that's the whole idea. to make the things that matter to us, love, family, meaningless. to push impressionable people into destruction by perverting their desire to play fair and get along. I just watched a guy who was trying to get the most low level pussy trick himself into fricking the grossest, least-passing troony to impress them and then both him and the troony break down when they realized what they'd done to each other. they want us all so confused that we collapse our natural way of life because the most obvious rules that govern our communities have been turned upside down.
I just watched a guy who was trying to get the most low level pussy trick himself into fricking the grossest, least-passing troony to impress them and then both him and the troony break down
>I just watched
for what fricking purpose?
why do I come here and watch chinks get sucked into industrial lathes or cartel killers make dudes wear their best friends skinned off faces
you dont though. that was like a decade ago. now you'll get banned for sharing a funny video that isn't even gore but some troony janny perceives it as such
I'll give you pickings are slim tonight but
gif is pretty based aside from the Black person trooncords running free. Remarkably similar to the troony discord that made this thread when you think about it.
Thats all true but the cultural right is largely to blame for leaving no wiggle room for people to live out the idiosyncratic parts of life which has empowered the left
We couldn't have gotten to the point where a dude wearing nail polish feels like he has to cut his dick off without all the conservatards screeching about how nail polish makes you a woman
people are miserable because our civilization has reached the point in its life cycle where most people are useless and the media fed everyone an easy (and false) explanation for why they feel that way. used to be add, then clinical depression, then autism, now it's transgenderism. eventually the disastrous side effects of people believing them will become widely accepted and they'll have to come up with another scapegoat disorder.
Lmfao yeah sure thing buddy. You cutting your dick off is the fault of the people laughing at your nail polish.
The opposite is true, you fricking idiot. The problem is there is no actual right wing. Current "conservatives" are just democrats from the 1990s. Wearing nail polish does make you a gay, and you should be thrown in a gas chamber. The only solution to the current problem is fascism. Degenerate subhumans like you need to be rounded up and put in concentration camps. The world is overpopulated as it is, we have no use for you undesirables.
anti-social and argumentative, with no manual labour skills and a long history of lazyness, you will be sitting right next to the trannies in the fascist gas chamber, chud
>You aren’t a “real” conservative unless you openly advocate and perform genocide
Careful you don’t cut yourself, edgelord
>No-one denies tha-ACK!
https://twitter.com/Docstockk/status/1706715042027086334?s=20
>Nothing is real bro it's all a social construct
Trannies aren't women because I know what a woman is, and trannies aren't women.
>Works Cited:
Me and everyone else in this thread who disagrees with you, because it's all a social construct :^)
This "social construct" argument has always been rhetorically dishonest bullshit. You're framing a moral debate as an epistomological one because you're an intellectually dishonest cynic who mistakes subversion for intelligence.
See, you people even admit it. You don't believe in any of this gender ideology. It's just a convenient self-serving way to signal your compliance with social etiquite.
>See, you people even admit it. You don't believe in any of this gender ideology
what do you mean "you people"? i repeatedly stated that i don't believe in transgenderism
>lol it’s a very simple concept
So are X/Y Chromosomes haha lol 🙂
>Sex as gender
pretty sure gender is about social norms though. sex is innate stuff, but gender is murky. the whole color pink used to be a boy's color type stuff.
>pretty sure gender is about social norms though
Ok, then all trans, queers and pronoun-people should invent other words for their gender expression and not use biological defined ones like male and female.
what about that?
We used to just call them transvestites, but they had to force everyone to push into their LARP even more.
they have dysphoria related to their innate sex though. it's odd to refer to that as 'gender' dysphoria. it's a real mess
I don't think gender dysphoria simply happens without any underlying cause, which I suspect might be a trauma or a pre-existing mental condition (autism?).
Yeah the trauma is called having to deal with life as a man. Cutting your dick off is the easy way out
you're a real scientist, autism also has underlying causes, all illnesses do.
>autism also has underlying causes
which is? Wasn't aware that is already well investigated.
nta but aren't some causes things like the mother being too old or microplastics?
afaik these causes were suggested but not confirmed at all
Trans"women" call themselves "female." The whole "gender is different from sex" argument was always a trojan horse to trick people into accepting subversion of human biology.
>gender is murky
No it isn’t, troony. You aren’t a woman.
Gender shouldn't even be a term. There's sex, and secondary sexual characteristics. Anything else like how one dresses is just societal, and has no basis in biology. There are things, certain behaviors, like being more maternal or liking to tinker with machines, which are aptterns shown to be more prevelent in one sex or the other. This can either be linked to their brain structure/hormones or societal pressure, or a little of both, but "gender" as a term in of itself is just rhetorical propaganda and needs to not be used or taught. It's just the perfect weasel word for scewing definitions and fricking up basic conversation. If a kid is acting outside the norm it's hormonal or structural imbalances. They're not the opposite "gender". This is how it SHOULD be viewed, but israelites and trannies poisoned the well.
>Gender shouldn't even be a term.
it isn't in my language
Lucky you
Well, on spanish there's gendered pronouns for everything so the rethoric is too hard to push, specially the xer xir stuff
>"gender" as a term in of itself is just rhetorical propaganda and needs to not be used or taught.
that's what I considered too, that no one should bother with a bajillion "genders" and should just have nothing. then I wondered about how messy that is. it's not very useful for most people conflate sex and gender, and it's very taxing to continually generate new more provocative genders. I'm really not sure what some of that stuff is meant to convey, it's just garbled.
>Sex isn't gender
Trannies don't believe in sex either; this is a rhetorically dishonest maneuver.
>We're all meat puppets synthesizing protein chains bound by causality
>actually everything is socially constructed and humans have like souls and shit
The mind-body problem ruined centuries of humanity. It's impossible for you to be a rational materialist and also a liberal.
Yes, it's ridiculous and dishonest. Transexuals acknowledge sex as this real thing, so that they can "become" that gender.
Yeah I don't have any problem with transsexuals personally if they're really willing to commit that hard. I figure in 100 or so years the tech will get us to the point where being cis or trans or whatever will be like getting GMO free or gluten free women. Some guys will care some guys won't. The technology now is bad, but the principle is sound.
t. ranny
lol not only that but even in biology sex isnt as cut and dry as male or female. Theres tons of different chromosomal expressions of human sex alone, not to even mention all the crazy shit that animals can do with their sex.
in all cases the male makes the determination. humans consistently determined you need to have a fertile womb to be a woman
so post menopausal females are men?
everyone is a man but those who can or have born children are granted the honor of woman.
stop pretending to be moronic
nobody bad a problem with terms like mankind and postman and congressman until people started trying to say women dont need to have children to be valid.
we need to go back. back to common sense. back to nature. women are for making babies and deserve special status for doing so.
okay, moron.
you wouldnt talk to me like that if i were a woman with a juicy fertile c**t
the adults are talking. Go back to your juicebox.
>back to nature
yeah, I should be allowed to kill all children that arent mine. because thats what lions do and nature is the moral benchmark we should aim for
it's normal for lions, dipshit
you sure won't see any off them getting their dicks surgically inverted and using dialators
lmao nature determined that, not humans. we just came up with the word that described something that was already true
Thats bullshit.
The only gradient variant is SR-Y, when an XX persion got a hinch of a Y chromosome, in particular the SR-Y part. Then, you are on a 6 stage spectrum with 1 being female and 6 being male. you dont have a vegana at 2 and are infertile all between. It's called a disability.
All other chromosome variants, doesn't matter if XXY, XXXY or XXXXXY is always a man.
There is only male and female.
If you want a definition, its the potential ability to prduce eggcells during your lifetime. Everything else is either way a man or a disability.
>the potential ability to produce eggs
so a female born without ovaries isnt a woman?
correct.
its so easy to shoot down these troony gotchas when your willing to invalidate infertile biofems
>if I pretend to be a moron I win
lmao
>statistically significent
it doesn't need to be significant. We're arguing about definitions. Your definition does not hold up.
find a statistically significent sample of woman born without ovaries. Not "non functioning" ovaries, literally not there. I'll wait.
It's a woman with disability.
Now we have to dig deeper. Why is she born without ovaries? was it an accident during cell division in embryonal state? Then the potential, as I wrote, is/was there. Does it have chromosomial causes? Then it depends why, but most certainly it would be not a female, but a strongly diabled person.
All potential humans start as female. By your logic men don't exist.
>humans have two legs, are people with one leg not human?
if your defining humans as having two legs then they aren't.
>All potential humans start as female. By your logic men don't exist.
Your logic is deeply flawed. With your "argumentation", you could also state all humans start as unicellular lifeforms and are therefore macrobes, not humans.
thats your argument exactly though.
No it is absolutely not.
I repeat: A woman is a human with the potential ability to produce eggcells during her lifetime.
Extrapolating your argument from this definition is called functional analphabetism.
>if I just refuse to answer basic questions about my argument I win
lmao okay
you didn't read the potential part nor did you understand it and now you are on the run. grow up.
you failed to answer even the most basic of questions about your definition because it doesn't hold up to even the slightest logical scrutiny.
I think everyone can read that you are projecting. The funny part is we are not in a in-person debate where whatever was just said isn't recorded. your level of denial is hilarious.
I accept your concession.
template fallacies. you are copy catting. I could code all your argumentation bc heard that often enough and I am not even a coder, lol.
>still hasn't answered the question
yawn
I did, you just have been too occupied having a tantrum, lol
you really didn't though, you just said the question was unimportant.
I recommend scrolling up and read again, because you clearly didn't.
Not true, you start as one-cell XX or XY, in case of no disabilties. That already predefines your sex. Later XX developes ovaries and XY testicles. Arguing, that before any visible sexual organs, all fetuses are femaile is nonsense.
all zygotes start with two x chromosomes.
>zygotes
Lol no, it has only 23 chromosomes and that "lifeform" is not able to replicate or survive, hence is by common definition not even alife.
now you're arguing that cells aren't alive lol
a virus isn't alive either. the definition is surviveability and reproduction.
The zygote alone is not alive, further combination with the sperm DNA changes that and by that time you have eityher way XX, XY or a disability.
cells are alive. I don't even know how you can dumb enough to believe they aren't. Also, you are so inept at logic you are inadvertently arguing that there is a third gender since "disability" fits neither definition for the other two genders.
No, that is not the definition of life.
Life is replicating and can survive, which is why some form of organism are questiuonable to fulfill that definition and is still a debate within academia. A famous example are fungi. Because something is organit (protein chains) it doesn't mean it's a live. Your steak on your plate is certainly not alife. A virus is not alive yet it reproduces. etc.
Simply being echauffeured because your believes get challenged and display a low set of knowledge isnt getting you the claps
>cells can be dead so that means all cells are dead
cells are dead if they can't preplicate, correct.
if a cell can preclicate, its alife.
if it can't it's not.
Got it?
do you think zygotes don't replicate? How do they become a fetus if not through mitosis
it's not a zygote by this point. zygotes are a short stage of a cell in development, not the final product. If the rest of the sperm DNA wouldn't combine, for hwatever reason, it will not become any life form.
You dont have zygotes flying around in nature and working at Amazon.
so since they dont work at Amazon they arent alive?
yes!! lol. I wonder how people like you make it through highschool with a degree and all teeth intact.
Virus are alive, just because they don't fit an arbitraty definition doesn't make them not exist
look, life is a definition in biology.
you mistake life with existing. a stone exists too.
a virus is a broken off DNA fragment. that happens more often than people know. some tiny fraction of that happenings are DNA fragments that can actually dock on a cell and get it to replicate that fragment. sometimes this replication kills the cell. by biological standards, since a virus is not able to reprocude by itself, it is not a set of >life<
>since a virus is not able to reprocude by itself, it is not a set of >life<
Call it anti-life for all I care
The definition being "only if it reproduces ITSELF, it's life!" is arbitrary, and you cannot deny this.
There's no "biological" reason as to why a living organism can't replicate and reproduce using others, there's only a subjective reason
If there were 200 different organisms that does that, you'll be forced to include them too, currently viruses are just an inconvenient example just to broaden the definition and encompass them too
sure, totally agreed. it is arbitrary, but with a reason, because its practical.
Back then, when DNA was discovered and viruses understood, fungi replication as well, the definition became a bit wonky. if you include virus though, it would be even more wonky because it now encompasses more questionable stuff. so its still up for debate.
Stop propogating this nonsense. You don't suddenly change a chromosomal pairing later. You start off XX or XY for the vast majority, assuming development has gone smoothly. "Everyone starts off female" refers to external appendages and organs that haven't formed yet.
>what is chromosomal inactivation
this is basic biology, you morons have no idea what you're even talking about lol
>what are disabilities
humans have two legs, are people with one leg not human?
human yes, a capable sprinter no.
no ovaries because of chromosomial causes? Human yes, female? questionable.
female with disability. a defect female if you will, something went wrong during pregnancy
>gender is not the same as sex
yes it is
>They’re always happier after being allowed to live as a woman instead of repressing it
good for them, i genuinely want people to be happy. i'll call a trans person "she" if they ask me to out of politeness and kindness, but that's not what we're talking about here. it *is* pretend
It is though. Check the dictionary
which part did you reply to? learn to quote please
Trying to work XXY or other genetically defective people into male or female is a waste of time. They are edge cases. They are 0.001% of the population. You don't change your definitions for machine errors like that.
If it has a Y it's a guy. It's that simple. If the twenty people on earth with XXY scream discrimination we don't listen.
other anon already said it. XXY is a male.
XXXY too, etc.
One Y is enough to trigger male development. The additional Xs don't matter in thsi case, except for other associated disabilities.
None of this is true, transvestite. Unironically go commit suicide you subhuman filth.
not an argument.
I'm not some bleeding heart rightoid, but there are two bell curves with sex chromosomes, which indicates that there are indeed two sexes.
Thats a simplification though. There are many species that reproduce in ways we would generally not consider to follow the male/female binary. Snails, for example, can literally become pregnant and also impregnate.
Aha, so snails become a third or fourth sex?
Because they don't. They stay within the binary paradigm
would you consider someone with both sets of genitalia male or female?
no one has both sets of genitalia, it will be on a 6 stage scale with everything between will not be both and will not be able to have kids.
If you want to read more:
-Klinefelter Syndrome
-Swyer Syndrome
we're talking about snails. Snails have both sets of genitalia. Are they male or female?
It doesn't matter.
We're talking about women, not snails.
Just because you can point to a snail or a tree that have both sex organs/cells, that doesn't affect the argument about human women.
The question was about the non-binary thing, not if they are male or female. snails are still on the binary paradigm.
If they have a Y chromosome, they're male. Any other abnormality is a woman with a defect. This is the answer anti trooners should give.
Anyone without a Y is a woman, regardless of how they want to present themselves.
>sex isn’t gender
yes it is
>gender
>a buzzword some Mengele-tier wacko who literally experimented on children made up
Start over.
Yes he did. His answer is "adult human female," you moron.
Trannies can't stop lying, as always.
Based
except sex is gender, and everything else is mental illness or straight up moronation
shit's weird, everyone knows sex is a binary male & female. they're counterparts that interplay with one another. I mean shit, even the terminology: male, and fe male, come on.
now if you want to play with gender, dressing up as the opposite sex, have at it. it's all gay.
>it's all gay
or a fetish.
The only two contexts in which gender does not mean sex are in grammar (where some words are masculine or feminine even if they refer to things that don't have sexes) and in some older feminist theory (where "gender" is shorthand for the social expectations and socialization process that you're supposedly subjected to by reason of your sex). It most certainly isn't some disembodied essence separate from your physical body.
>Gender
>Generation
>Genitalia
It's almost like our contemporary use of the word gender is recent newspeak to serve the whims of a deranged, ideologically driven section of our population hell bent on spreading their suicidal inclinations throughout the West.
troony shit is purely born of our decadent decline, it's a natural response of our dying culture that's instinctually seeking its own demise.
Trannies don't accept the "basic argument about how sex isn’t gender" either or else they wouldn't have a problem when people point out that they're just men pretending to be women.
>sex isn’t gender
That's the point. Gender is pseudo-scientific bullshit. It doesn't exist. The only reason it was accepted is because American christcucks like Walsh are too puritan to use the word "sex", so everyone just assumed gender was just a synonym instead of a batshit insane concept made up by some pedo.
THIS IS A WOMAN, CHUD! HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT ANY CLEARER!?
There are like 4 billion white trash karens in America who look less feminine than her
Manmade horrors beyond your comprehension
Okay so I have a question. What is that? After they turn your sack into a "vegana", you have to put something in your "vegana" otherwise it is going to heal and seal up?
our bodies have a tendency to seal wounds, it has helped us stay alive for a few million years
Obviously I understand that I just assumed that when the surgery is done it's like somewhat of an actual pussy. I thought the surgery is more advanced.
So if you are a trans you have to get someone to frick your wound everyday or put like a dildo or something up it? Hahaha that's actually fricking funny
thats how we get to 41%
and it is hilarious
Didn't it just reach 50?
it's literally a gaping wound that constantly tries to seal, body horror shit. it doesn't even resemble a real pussy
>I thought the surgery is more advanced.
Then you fell for propaganda.
>it's like somewhat of an actual pussy. I thought the surgery is more advanced.
Yes
You cannot actually "have" a vegana it's basically an open thing that the body tries to seal up to preserve the biological structure.
You can't make a hole in the middle of your stomach to have a cool open window that you pass your arm through.
For you it may be aesthetic and may want to produce that and keep it that way, but for your cells is literally "WTF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE WE NEED TO FIX THIS" and you will never stop that from happening
watch watched a bizarre sex stream where there were two couples playing a sex version of monopoly, one couple a fat ugly white girl and a HIDEOUS mtf dude and normal white dude and his ftm "boyfriend" and they gradually got drunker and drunker until they started fooling around with each other which especially the fat girl didn't seem comfortable with and the normal dude kept wanting to frick her but didn't have the balls to make the move so after a couple of hours of it not happening he finally fricked her troony BOYFRIEND instead and came up the dudes ass and the troony immediately realized he'd just gotten fricked by a dude for the first time and broke down and it everything got very awkward and he locked himself in the bathroom and man was that some crazy shit to watch the last day of the year
lmao now the normal guy is freaked out and saying it's because he missed an important phone call while they were fricking, lmao
Where did you even find this shit?
looking for something to whack off to, ended up watching a bizarre social disaster by accident lmao
right now the ftm just said reddit was too aggressive for her
Nobody cares you closet troony. How watch your trans porn and go frick yourself (with your own wiener)
lmao does the dude in the dress remind you of yourself
>does the guy the porn I watch remind you of yourself
Black person what? Go suck troony dick
>gets stunned
>immediate response is to think about sucking troony dick
lol
My life isn't so bad after all
I don't care what anyone says, you cannot convince me that I'm not living in the endtimes.
>I edit my opponent's responses awkwardly and put some snoring sounds over their answers, this means I've won the argument
What's a woman then?
>A woman then
SNNNNNNORRRRRRE!
what was the answer?
Its the sex with the larger gametes that then goes on to bear offspring or lay eggs. Thats a female anyway.
Then a woman is an adult human female.
a woman is an adult female human who is capable of naturally producing children or has already naturally produced children
if it cant create children or wasted the opportunity it is not a woman
there are no exceptions
No one cares about your made-up definition
its not made up. children are why society gives women special status. if youre not making children you are a man. if youre having sex with someone who isnt making children you are gay
All definitions are made up you donut
> made-up
so an infertile biological female is not a woman?
correct.
by way of example, it would be immoral for an infertile female to board the life boats while they are still calling for women and children
It a "broken women"
>Say a bunch of stupid shit
>Surprised when it baffles people who understand said shit
please elaborate, what "stupid shit"?
Scinetist here.
Science isn't real. A lot of it is made up.
non scientist here and i could've told you that. the part that really intrigues me is when scientists cite other work that is obviously flawed and pound it into their model or work so it relies so heavily on it, yet one glance at the underlying work would have someone asking what the hell is this.
science is far more about getting your name on a few papers and getting yourself in the media than it is actually studying stuff (unless its for a big corporation, then you'll agree 100% of the time with the person sponsoring your research)
Unironically and sadly ironically Science worked much better when all the scientists believed in God, and believed that it was a holy duty to honestly attempt to understand the nature of his reality and learn his natural laws.
The Enlightenment spread both Rationalism and the Scientific Method and condoned freedom of conscience to be Atheistic. Now it's all finally falling apart.
>Unironically and sadly ironically Science worked much better when all the scientists believed in God
i've made this point a bunch of times when talking with people. all the best scientists were religious and trying to figure out how their god works. its only in the last 100, maybe a bit longer, years that science has become not only detached from religion but antagonistic toward it
You’re not a good scientist
Science is real, it’s just not some magical book of answers leftists seem to think it is recently.
It’s simply a process of figuring something out, it doesn’t necessarily mean the results are correct but by following the scientific process you’re closer to a replicatable answer than before, and if you can replicate your experiment and thought process it means your on the road to the right answer.
Soft sciences are all bullshit though.
Little Puck gremlins joi is the thing I really needed but never knew I wanted
hopefully you are aware there's a 2nd video with her in a wedding dress, lel
why do they always look like demons
I mean for this one specifically that's kind of the point isn't it
yeah, there is currently freeleech on empornium so I got them both
the recent British documentary was better, definitely a lot less glitzy however (just talking heads and it STILL looks like it was made in Windows Movie Maker).
get an actual documentary filmmaker to handle this one.
A woman an adult human female
BOOM,
now argue about what a "female" is, remembering that a man, no matter how mutilated, cannot become a female.
trannies are aware that they cant become biological women, they just want to be perceived as such by looking the part
and for the most part, they are. they should try talking to some fat ugly women for context
fat ugly women still look like women
and they are ignored, rejected, and ridiculed when they go out in public. trannies got what they asked for and are being poor sports because they dont like it (also very much like real women)
a wifman, a suibset of man (as in homosexual sapiens/humans/mankind)
it's all over now, man, was watching them on stripchat
go ahead and make a china thread, see how long it lasts
The kid in Kindertan Cop is smarter than him.
The chromosome question...
XX .. female
Any kind of Y in your chain? male.
Every single time.
XXXY ... male
Also note, trisomy or any kind of polysomy is a disability, not a feature. Most of the times, these people are infertile, have a below average IQ and have some other disabilities. It's not meant to happen.
i feel bad for trans people and empathize with them, i really do. but pretending they're something they're not just because you want to spare their feelings is madness. it's what you do with children who believe in santa
Totally wrong
yes, playing pretend with them is totally wrong
It’s not pretend, gender is not the same as sex. They’re always happier after being allowed to live as a woman instead of repressing it
I dont check everyones genitals and chromosomes before starting a conversation.
They just tell me their name and I call them that. this has solved all troony issues in my life instantly
Now THIS is based. I don't give a flying frick about trannies. It must be tiring thinking of them 24/7.
but that's not what we're talking about here at all. we're talking about biology, not social norms
im not gonna start harassing people who ask me to call them "she"
>im not gonna start harassing people who ask me to call them "she"
good cause you'll get fired, canceled and harassed for not complying
>why do my actions have consequences???
hahahaha
you don't find it weird that not playing someone elses pretend game can end your career a bit disturbing? and this is from the crowd that calls themselves tolerant
you honestly think its normal for there to be "consequences" for not calling a dude a woman?
>if I'm a disrespectful butthole people wont like me, life is so unfair!
>i look like man, sound like a man, walk like a man, but if you call don't call me shirley i'll have you canceled
you're just being dishonest at best. no one actually believes this dribble.
You are an evil sack of shit. Kys.
Don't bother "debating" with this type of person. They're sadists that enjoy enforcing social norms because it makes them feel smart and powerful.
i wouldn't even if that wasn't the case
i didn't say "dictate", i said i'll play along in order to be nice. i 100% oppose enforced speech
i dont play along. but its not just trannies. wont call phd gays doctor either.
the only person who gets to dictate what i call them is a judge in open court.
every troony argument is about social norms. the biological argument is just a gotcha for one side or the other. literally every troony knows that they will never be biological women, but thats not even what they want in the first place.
its about presenting and being read as another gender, not literally changing chromosomes
that's just one part of ut, we have seen TONS of bullshit pseudoscience over the years where they represent defects and disabilities as proof that sex isn't binary. you're seeing it in this very thread
the problem is trannies arent only demanding to be accepted as women. they are demanding to be accepted as attractive women. 99% are not even passable as unattractive women. they dont want acceptance they want society to enable their mental illness.
Define harassment. What if my daughter comes to me crying because some degenerate 6'2'' senior in a dress pulled his dick out in the girls bathroom but the school says it's perfectly fine so I end up beating the snot out of the kid and getting away with it because my lawyer's a fancy Manhattan turbojew? Is that harassment? Because to me it felt like righteous self-defense.
i hope this is a true story and the gay lost some teeth
All I'll say is I had to have extensive reconstructive surgery on my right hand and it still only functions at maybe 70% on a good day.
theres a female i work with. shes about 40, decent looking, would but not really my type. anyway the other day she tells me she is voluntarily childfree. up until this point i had considered her a woman and valued her insight. now shes no different than a 40 year old man who hasnt figured out he wasted his life chasing random pussy so i dont talk to her anymore. shes no more a woman than i am.
>Trannies still seethe in these threads years later
Lmao.
Definition.
(1) Adult human female. Ex: That woman is pregnant with a child.
(2) A generalized category for any or all female humans. Ex: Women's rights for equality before the law.
Unless you were born with two XX chromosomes, a vegana, and a uterus, you are not a woman, and can never become one.
Don't try the separation between sex and gender trick. It doesn't work. When you are imitating/adopting the "woman gender" what is it that you are imitating? You want people to believe that you are a true human female (XX), not just a male (XY) that is wearing women's clothes and makeup. Admit it. The Gender/Sex distinction is a canard, intended to pawn off disinterested normies who have no desire to ask more than a single question and receive a plausible answer and then getting as far away from this mental illness as they can. Anyone who looks deeper realizes it is a false answer and circular logic. That means all trannies are knowingly lying to themselves and others or completely moronic to have bought their own lie.
>Don't try the separation between sex and gender trick. It doesn't work.
It actually does work when you consider sex as material and gender as metaphysical. Doing that alone uncovers a lot of imbeciles. For example: the dumbass materialists who think experience can be found in the material, i.e. wearing X makes me "feel" like Y; or the super dumbass argument about brains and how trannies supposedly have "female"-like brains, thus have some innate "feeling" of them.
Nevermind the other issue of self-reference as a point of intuiting another's experience and then propping that up through material aesthetic.
Anyway, this whole discussion is dumb because you'll always find some overlap of definitions that could include X or Y and Wittgenstein already went over this decades ago. People talk disingenuously in here but if you invoke a word an image immediately pops into their head of that thing that doesn't need formal elucidation.
Nature vs nurture. We have biological hardware and it makes sense to want to promote man and woman for our natural evolutionary socio-cultural neural mechanisms and reproduction. At some level there is an existential question about what our essence truly is, but in a world where god is dead people are stuck picking up the pieces of meaning and existence for themselves.
>self reference for others
Exactly there is no communal world view anymore all we can do is say “well here is what I think and I know I’m potentially wrong and others think different.” It’s the existential impasse of our time to wrestle with essence over experience. Trannies are fricking stupidly mentally ill either way
>twelve million genders
>they all mean anal sex, ancestors cry
No going to scour the troonyposting to see if anyone said it, but the answer is any adult lacking a Y chromosome. That's it. That includes all the weird chromosomal abnormalites and shit out there, infertiles, etc. if they have a Y, they're a guy. Simple as.
what is it about this topic that riles people up so much?
even furries and "feminazis" didn't attract this much furore.
nobody is trying to convince us furries are actually animals
Because we went from "who cares what they do in the bedroom" to "bake the homosexual cake" to "use my pronouns or you're under arrest".
The progressive elite and their sycophant followers are becoming increasingly unhinged with their demands of their subjects.
because it's so obvious and insane
Politicians werent calling it a furry-genocide when people told bronies to frick off.
trannies are the most obsessive and autistic group there is
Furries are a hidden niche in the internet or secluded in cons. They are degenerates that want to be alone.
Feminazis are a big rally with flashing colors and loud mouths. You can spot them from a mile, and leave them alone.
troonys are a coverted movement that is promoted by subterfuge in kid's media and gaslighting in normal media passing it as something "normal" and you are required to accept them.
Seriously, why are leftist so dead set on dying on this hill of trannies? Its obviously that they are NOT real women, but just mentally ill men to various degrees who either wear womens clothing or get cosmetic surgeries in a pathetic attempt to appear like a woman.
Im starting to get the impression that leftist just like ugly, macbre, and weird things and want that shoved on people for some reason.
leftism is about perpetual victimhood because they don't want to do any actual work or stand for something. they just want to signal to others that they do, hence the twitter facebook flags and stuff. even when everyone (pretends) to agree with them they'll still find something wrong with it
>leftism is about perpetual victimhood
this coming from thew guy who thinks its tyranny to be respectful of other peoples identities lmao
>play my game
no
>you have to be respectful to leftoid conspiration theories
Not really.
Progressives are hypersocialized and will just go along with whatever as long as it lets them feel intellectually or morally superior to "white trash", "chuds", etc, etc.
That's right, keep sneering homosexual. Want to guess why queer acceptance is dropping? It's your own anti-social behavior.
>will just go along with whatever
Just like religiously brainwashed rightoids believing in a magical israelite on a stick?
low angle shot to put focus on his beard that hides his weak chin and jaw because his hairline and hairstyle is atrocious
bruh look at this dude
look at the top of his head
https://www.skeptic.com/michael-shermer-show/what-is-a-woman-anyway/
don't know if shermer was featured in the movie but maybe he should have been?
>resorting to a threat totally makes me win the argument and doesn't make me seem insecure at all
lol
is down syndrome another type of sex or gender?
it is a trisomy of chromosome 21. 21 is not the sex chromosome 23
TIL
isn't all this trans stuff some kind of sexual orientation though? I don't know how everyone likes to argue them all and what not. I just know common sense wise it's probably a bad idea to mutilate your body in some ways I've heard about. I think the best way to combat all the zaniness is to probably give gays a mile. Let them have free reign in their gayness I reckon. Dress like a girl, buttfrick one another, but I fully recommend to not dissect your genitalia.
shit's gross yo, stop being a gay
>sex is determined by chromosomes
>therefore chromosomes only determine sex
You're a special kind of moronic, go back to 5th grade.
Okay so let me propose this to you Cinemaphile
Which is worse, trannies, the ever increasing alphabet of sexualities, or pronouns.
Yes
Those that have trannies on their mind 24/7. Can't have a conversation about anything these days cause morons come out of the woodwork to spout their regurgitated nonsense about such a small percentage of people
I agree. Leftoids with the troony savior mentality need to stop injecting them into every discussion when the opportunity arises.
When did Cinemaphile start hating transfolk? Is this a /misc/ psyop?
Since everyone is full ears about the topic, lets learn something new:
XXX-females.
Triple X syndrome, also called trisomy X or 47,XXX, where one X chromosome is too much lead to extra genetic material while developing females.
Now comes the interesting part:
In average, they are taller, more widened eye distance and are considered more beatiful. Also, in average, they are 10 IQ points below XX females.
The ideal woman? lol
>in average
Now show me the statistics on how often they appear in average populations
>autism also has underlying causes,
1:1000
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/triple-x-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20350977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisomy_X
>reactions
haha
This is literally the exact equivalent to leftoids and the term nazi. People talk more about things they don't like politically than things they do like politically. Go figure.
I don't get this take.
I wouldn't call troony porn 'pro-troony' in the same way I wouldn't call BLACKED porn 'pro-black'.
The fact that you can't distinguish between the commercial and deeply inauthentic sexual objectification of a particular demographic and that demographic having rights or equal political standing tells me that you will never be a woman, because you don't know what one is. Instead, you're busy trying to become the girlfriend you never had.
Many such cases!
>anon reaches this hard to give nick Fuentes a rimjob online
Sad
And yet you have no rebuttal. Curious!
It reminds me of when troons do the "ACKtually Hitler was gay and Nazis were crossdressers according to new studies by Professor Historyberg".
So, what's your point? Being a gay crossdresser is bad when Nazis do it but good when you do it? It's absolutely incoherent and thoughtless. The only conclusion is that you're giving a programmed NPC response rather than trying to advance discussion intellectually.
The one behind the curve is you. You're equivocating anti-white and pro-black. The real answer is that BLACKED porn is overtly anti-white and covertly anti-black.
If you have to ask yourself who this is in service of, look no further than the israeli pornographer who produced it.
>You're equivocating anti-white and pro-black.
not at all, I'm acknowledging that a porno concerns itself with race mixing
>I wouldn't call BLACKED porn 'pro-black'.
because you're behind the curve. it's a porn about black men fricking white women. it's as pro black as any piece of media could possibly be. it endorses mixing races like no other.
Question to troons: how would you argue against the "adult human female" definition? It's the only logical one.
Not a troon, but their logic here is that you shouldn't be "defined" by your biology. Say, just because you're a man you aren't banned from wearing dresses. Sure, you shouldn't, but that only makes you a man wearing dresses, not a woman.
You're at least 10 years behind on troony propaganda. At this point their ideology is "When I put on the skirt I AM a girl!" and they literally think that a boy who wants to wear a dress must be trans because there's no such thing as just being a transvestite in their minds. Trannies today have a 1950s notion of gender roles; they see a boy wear nail polish and declare he is literally a girl in a boy's body because it's not possible in their minds for a boy to just like nail polish but also still be a boy and even be straight.
solution: do not let boys wear dresses, funny that this seems to have been the norm. since forever really.
The real solution is telling boys that they can wear a dress if they like and that it doesn't make them any less of a boy because boyhood is a fact of their biology. Then you just let it run its course and 99% of the time they grow out of it soon enough. The problem is telling them that wearing a dress makes them less masculine or more girly, that's what ends up fricking them up and turning them into trannies later in life. Ever noticed how troony origin stories always go like this:
>I just always felt like I was a girl, for as long as I can even remember. I always played with dolls and wanted to dress in girl clothes.
My theory on this is that when they were very very young they were told by adults, "No, you can't do that, it's a GIRL thing that ONLY GIRLS do!" and then their stupid little kid brain translated that into "I can't help that I like these girl things, and if only girls like them then I must be a girl." If they hadn't been browbeaten into the whole "that's only for girls" thing they probably wouldn't have become trannies and would just be dudes with effeminate interests (assuming they didn't just grow out of it).
Body dysmorphia is commonly associated with troony origin stories, go figure they have a silver bullet solution to why they hate themselves.
And body dysmorphia, I believe, comes from being told at a young age that they need to stop doing girl/boy things and be more of a boy/girl. It implants this sense of wrongness about themselves that develops into massive body image issues later on.
Yes, exactly. I remember hearing a story about a 5 year old who told his dad that he's gay. Instead of freaking out, the dad asked why and the boy said, "Because I love you but you're a boy." The dad just explained that's not what gay means and the boy just carried on as normal.
If you let them express themselves they won't become trans, that's the point.
9/10 if your son says he wants to be girl, asking him what he thinks a girl is or does gets you answers about being able to do certain things that boys seemingly aren't allowed to.
I've had the same thing but with a family friend's daughter. Says she wants to be a boy because they get to play sports and she's told she can't join the boy's five-a-side team.
The easiest fix is to let her onto a girls team somewhere rather than tell her she's a boy.
Then just let them express themselves how they want and if they’re trans they’ll be trans and if they’re not they won’t be. Just be a normal supportive parent that’s all anyone asks
Yeah. that's kinda what I was getting at. Sure you might end up with a gay kid but at least that kid isn't going to be taking puberty blockers because of stupid reasons.
Some kids will have dysphoria and the best way to treat that is with hormones and helping them be more comfortable with their bodies. I was undecided too until you realise 99% of them say exactly that so what are you gonna do just tell them you know them better than they do?
Kids during puberty need to go through that puberty so their organs, especially their heart, mature to be the right size. No blockers, no HRT.
The consequences of not being able to complete their puberty means that eventually their body just gives up trying to make it happen. Their heart does not grow, their brain does not develop, their bones are brittle - they are stuck in arrested development and it should be considered horrible malpriactice to give any young child blockers.
If you are a young boy who wants to eventually have vaginoplasty, the best thing is to let your penis develop so you don't have to use part of your colon to make the hole instead.
And that's not even me going into how there's so many reasons dysphoria, even gender dysphoria, can develop. Trauma, sexual abuse, autism, schizophrenia, bipolar, and narcissism have been found in transgender patients. How much of that contributes to the negative feelings they have about their sex characterisitcs?
>just let your kid be influenced by anything as long as I tell him good boy
Are you moronic? Do you have no morals or outlook on life? Having a kid doesn’t just mean that I get to have no say in what I think is right or wrong, troony ideology is moronic, gay ideology is moronic and dogmatic. Every family is a ship and someone needs to run it.
If you have a trans kid they will hate you.
Trans kids don't exist.
normal, and supportive?
niggy, it ain't normal to wear dresses when you're male. you gay af fr, lol.
According to your specific values which no one cares about. Times are changing gramps
Yeah they do
times are 'a changing
that's like, another way to say the world is becoming gayer.
Abuse victims exist. Trans kids are like vegan dogs. They're only that way because their caretakers failed to raise them properly. Whether that's letting freaks online or at school talk them into it or they do it themselves by saying what a boy can or can't do and vise versa with girls. I child in a vacuum never gave two shits about the context of what.the color pink or playing with dolls or wanting to play sports entails. They just do what they like.
>muh dysmorphia
Every child at some point becomes self concious of their body. That's normal. Entertaining tannyism is like entertaining eating disorders. Neither is really fixing the issue.
No, they quite literally don’t. They just respect those people who choose to conform to traditional gender expressions as a means of realising their identity
The world was a shitty backwards place since forever and now people are realising they don’t need to confirm to nonsense social norms just bc they’re there
>No, they quite literally don’t.
Yes, they literally do. If a child has any non-gender-conforming behavior they are told that makes them a troony because trannies don't see gender as an incidental part of a person's biology but instead as a DEFINING TRAIT that must be adhered to perfectly or else you have the wrong defining trait that must be fixed. It's also the same reason that trannies always turn into an absolutely ridiculous caricature of their desired gender (MtFs only wearing dresses and skirts, FtMs always wearing wifebeaters) instead of just behaving like a fricking person.
No they’re not
Not an argument.
Neither was your moronic headcannon
dresses make you gay, niggy. lil queer bait.
Gender isn't real. The term was pushed by Money the pedophile. It's only sex and its primary and secondary characteristics. Women with more testosterone act more masculine, but they are still women.
Personally, if you're asking me, I think billions must die.
If your body doesn't make you a woman why is it that troons try to simulate breasts, grow long hair, shave and in some extreme cases remove their penis
Why is it that Ellen Page had her breasts removed if breasts should be no issue to her supposedly being a man
In fact, why is "transitioning" even a thing if you can just magic word yourself into the "gender" you think you are
Because it's all lies to trick people into playing along with mental illness designed to subvert culture and rape children mentally, spiritually, and physically.
Mentally ill people are not entitled to be rational
>why is "transitioning" even a thing
money and doctors with personality disorders.
Because:
Queers, lesbians and bis believe in non-binary.
Gays and trannies are hardcode-binary believers.
One day they will meet on a big rainbow parade and slaughter each other.
There is a subset of gays and dykes and bis that don't want to be associated with the T part of LGBT. They routinely get kicked out of pride events because they won't follow the doctrine, despite being part of the in-group themselves.
watching lesbians get banned from leddit for complaining about dudes are invading their space was hilarious
The snake is going to eat itself in the end. Ugly men trying to pass as lesbians getting more attention in lesbian spaces than the damn lesbos themselves is some fricking irony.
sure, just be as consistent and sturdy as possible though and the world cannot disintegrate you.
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>ask what is a woman
>300 replies of seething, malding and dilating
point proven
Oh, I'd fricking love for procedures like that to be completely thrown out as medical malpractice. I fricking hate that these hack doctors make forever patients out of vulnerable people. But if someone is so insisitent on destorying their dick then they should at least finish puberty and have a chance to save themselves.
Besides, something like a good 80% of kids who have these feelings grow out of them by the time theyr'e 18.
Most trans people want to transition around the age of 17-18 and are perfectly healthy. The more cishet gender norms are forced on people the more they’ll feel unhappy in their bodies- most of us prefer the non binary view and just want people to accept themselves but often that means hrt and it’s not the health boogeyman it’s made out to be by anti-trans people
>trans people
>healthy
pick one. I'm not even being cruel here. Dysphoria is a mental illness and should be treated carefully.
troony apologists push "cishet" gender norms harder than anyone.
>Most trans people want to transition around the age of 17-18 and are perfectly healthy.
Check their histories. Check their relationship with their close family - they have any.
Also check how many also have neurological disorders such as autism. It's been documented before that there is a non-insignificant number of those affected who have disassociation towards their body, how they relate to others, and their sexuality. Sexual obsessions are also not unusual and I have no doubt that horny young men and women are exceedingly vulnerable to chasing that high they get after play as the opposite sex.
Either way, they aren't mentally healthy at all. You can have someone being trans as well as healthy. They are mutually exclusive since it's supposed to be a medical condition, isn't it?
Social science isn't science. And Walsh is just an annoying christcuck.
>White children were meant to have similarly aged offspring from the same parents
>children
>meant to have offspring
have a nice day, baby-fricker.
incest porn is becoming more normal, get with the times gramps.
not really, what is more pushed is not incest, but "incest" since many more people are living in a patchwork family.
On this note, a patchwork family is not ideal and not the best thing for a kdis development. Example? Females start their period way earlier, because they are exposed to a non-related male's pheromones in the household.
a woman is someone who has the anatomy to give birth. Whether they can or not is up to them…
that said i’m getting confused urges when i see a lady & find out she is trans
who's this bloke?
my wife
Look if you don't know the guy's name just say so, I'm not that invested.
Yeah, the working definition is not far off:
A woman is a human which body has the potential to produce egg-cells during her lifetime.
How does one think that they are another sex or gender or whatever when masculinity and femininity are both apparently social constructs and not real? Doesn't that just make them a man that likes doing things that are normally attributed to women by society?
How did we go from saying little Tommy is a normal boy for playing with Barbies to saying he actually wishes he was a woman and should mutilate his genitals?
They're insane. It's not the fact the believe 2+2=5, it's that they believe 2+2=5 and at the same time 2+2=7. They lack any logic because they're a bunch of narcissistic delusional schizos.
>How did we go from saying little Tommy is a normal boy for playing with Barbies to saying he actually wishes he was a woman and should mutilate his genitals?
this was the most biased and unprofessional "documentary" i have ever watched. this dude is basically the michael moore of the right.
why can’t we accept people for how they are?
Yes I know they aren’t a real biological woman, but who cares if a dude cross dresses & wears make up. If it’s not affecting you personally why do u care?
people hide behind ‘muh freedom of religion’ to deny people services & belittle them. It’s pretty hypocritical of them.
Because it's affirming a mental disorder. I don't have any problems with some nutjob thinking he's Napoleon. I do have a problem with society, and health care professionals, saying it's completely normal.
Not only saying that it's normal but that the guy is Napoleon and everyone should act accordingly.
of course it’s not normal. just like being a real schizo isn’t normal nor should it be normalized. But if u accept that nut job being Napoleon, then u can accept a troony.
Transgenderism & allowing minors to be mutilated (surgically) is not something to be pushed mainstream.
But there are some instances where a human may not feel as if they are in the right body. And if it continues it should be consulted over with medical professions who are unbiased and are not trying to push an agenda. And if that feeling continues then slowly allow the start of transitioning and warn them from the start that if surgery is the end goal that it is something that can’t be undone.
From all the crazies involved into this, surgeons and their helpers should receive a life sentence imho, they are the worst right after manipulating teacher and college professors.
It's genuinely dispicable that they're allowed to go after people like this. Adults is one thing, but preying on children and their parents, who don't want little Timmy to kill himself because he's not allowed to cut off his dick - that's truly evil.
The parents who have this whole Munchhausen by proxy type deal with their kids regarding their gender deserve their own circle of hell too.
No one gave a shit when some freaks put on wigs without affecting anyone else, the problem is precisely them trying to make the society pander according to few freaks in every single situation while simultaneously trying to brainwash your kids into mutilating their genitals.
I literally don't care and never go out of my way to be a dick in public. I see trannies at my job occasionally and avoid "ma'am" or "sir" when addressing them because I don't need the drama. I'm just as civil with people with tourettes and schizophrenia when I happen to see them in public. I vehemently oppose people spreading medical disinfo, not treating these people for what they are, which is mentally ill and in need of treatment. Whether getting them back to normal or letting them live that way is better for them is their decision. However, a lot of therapists and surgeons see a lucrative money making opportunity flipping dicks inside out and pumping people full of chemicals, and all they care about is profit and having permanent clientele (unless they off themselves, but they don't care). That, plus the truly perverse individuals grooming innocent vulnerable people, including kids, is where I draw the line.
100% correct, every word.
And I strongly believe we are in the majority.
Life and let life, but don't bullshit the public, don't frame history and get your hands off of children and mentally vulnerable persons.