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what did big guy mean by this?
He was being very philosophical
Batman was developing a belly
>Batman eliminated organized crime in a span of 2-3 years
Realism my ass
>Between 1990 and 1999, homicide dropped 73 percent, burglary 66 percent, assault 40 percent, robbery 67 percent, and vehicle hoists 73 percent.
For all their shitty antics you can't deny the efficiency. Too many shows and movies focus on the mob aspect I want to see more about how the FBI completely dismantled and fricked the mob raw.
They just gave the feds more power to arrest with a smaller probable cause, while also offering criminals the choice between snitching or getting extremely heavy sentences, so they could destroy criminal organizations very easily. The trouble is that giving police this much power in an up-and-coming matriarchy like 90s America handed the tools of state directly to histrionic man-hating Black person-loving prostitutes. when men were legally prevented from hitting women, worthwhile society died.
Was the primary tactic used having a single operator go into the field dressed as a bat to do ninjutsu on the criminals?
>all the crooks die, kill each other, or leave with millions of dollars in stolen money.
>get elected after 50 years of civil war and strife bring the entire territory to the brink of collapse.
>things improve somewhat.
>OMG HE LITERALLY SAVED US.
Get a fricking brain, moron.
Bruce Wayne was investing massive amounts of money into social programs in Gotham (and funding tough-on-crime politicians like Harvey Dent) while Batman was using military-grade technology to destroy organized crime.
>The entire Robin character
This was the worst part of the entire movie.
>I knew you were Batman because you looked sad when you talked to me about losing parents
>Even though Bruce Wayne lost his parents, and this is public knowledge
>I have no reason to think this makes you Batman unless somebody handed me a copy of a Batman movie script
It's the equivalent of meeting Elon Musk and saying "I can see in your eyes that your father owned an emerald mine in southwestern Africa, therefore you must secretly be a vigilante".
Actually Harvey Dent dying lead to the city passing vague, undefined laws that gave the police extra powers allowing them to completely dismantle organized crime.
Um, actschually, Joker and Dent killed all of the major bosses in a few months.
You could end organised crime pretty quickly if you could break into mob houses with super ninja skills backed by billions of dollars.
Yeah basically. That was the reason why we couldn't arrest Al Capone. He was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt but the department didn't have any solid evidence against him.
So why not just circumvent the slow justice system and just kick his ass instead.
>2-3 years
Could have sworn an official source said the gap between Batman Begins and The Dark knight was 5.
Dialogue in TDK confirms Batman's been around for about a year at most.
That's bizarre since Gordon's son is significantly older and there wouldn't have been enough time for Rachel and Dent to date to the point where they're contemplating marriage.
Not to mention, certain photos and videos dated 2005 and 2008 appear in their respective films
The Joker in large part eliminated them.
I can do the Bane voice. I'm pretty good at it. It's become quite the hit around my apartment
It's odd. Sometimes it's hilarious. Other times it fits quite well.
I can do bane voice as well. I remember goofing around with my friends with that, but we need to do some post processing in audition thoughbeit
>Piss has cost you your strength!
Me when I'm fapping but I also have to pee
I read the comic before the movie was out. Bane was more like a luchador and he had a ponytail. He was closer in appearance to Vega from Street Fighter II. Tom Hardy was just a beefed up manlet and it didn't work at all for me.
Nolan tries shooting it to make him look bigger but the second he is next to Bale the illusion breaks. He's no Peter Jackson when it comes to trick photography that's for sure.
The Scene where he breaks batman's back compared to the comics was so underwhelming. I'd have to rewatch the movie, but batman was going in the red, the buildup in the comics was better. We never got to see Azrael. Bane was supposed to be a guy like Jack Reacher, basically. Huge, well read, and quick on the draw. Tom Hardy couldn't fill that part. It was better than the Clooney version, where they turned Bane into a roided up moron who couldn't string two sentences together. He was like a hulk with brain damage there, kek.
Bane is hard. Because you need someone that can act. Which most WWE size guys can’t. Batista been campaigning to be Bane. Frick him
There aren’t many big guys in the acting world that sound smart or can convincingly pull off “intelligent psychopath”.
Exactly. Why Nolan went route or getting someone they can act and try to make him look bigger. Can mock the decision all we want. What was the alternative. Get Kane or The Undertaker to play him?
Well, he *is* wearing a mask. You could get a Big Guy and dub him over.
Eddie Guerrero would've unironically been great back in the day
This is Bane.
Just look at the angles, the shadows and the text. It's just youth sentiment, I guess. The comic made a mark on me.It looked so adult, compared to what I was used to.
>working out the same muscle groups every single day
>dont sleep, all but ensuring your muscles are not being given time to recover
>guaranteed not being fed kcal surplus with proper macros for muscle gain by the prison
>somehow make progress and not just destroy your body
I had a friend who was really into comics and he thought like this too, lived off white rice and fried potatoes and bread and insisted on exclusively training via daily bodyweight isometrics. he made zero strength and/or mass progress in three years
Can’t expect much from nerd writers and artists that never lifted a weight in their life
I'm just proclaiming my love for the comic. I wouldn't actually try to take gym advice from the guy who wrote the comics.
Your friend was not only more based than your gayoot 3x5, 5x5 OR 8-12x3 ass, but he also would be far more prepared for any real world survival scenario with his body prepared to do endless lower intensity movements on a cheap, carb based diet. The second you couldn’t get your protein shakes and your pre workouts you’d fall apart, and begin to lose your vanity muscle, while his tendons would retain their iron wire like quality. I mean, if he needed a log moved he could ask you provided it was still in the first few months post societal collapse, and you’d yet to lose all your condition.
But given, unlike you, he’d have the stamina to saw it up and move away the pieces, and unlike you he wouldn’t need one to two days rest after doing the task in the most stupid and least efficient way possible, wouldn’t he just do it himself and leave you behind? I would.
the fire rises
Give me a single example of what you're talking about. Based on my memory bane never looked small compared to anyone else and nolan did a perfect job making tom look big
lmao
Yup. Can't give me one example.
>Do you feel in charge?
I think Tom had to stand on a soapbox for that. Didn't help with the immersion when he put his toddler sized hands on his shoulder. Don't get me wrong, Tom Hardy is an amazing actor, but just no.
That anon I was replying to assuming you aren't him specially mentioned how when bane is next to bale he looks small. Give me one example of that. Give me a single example of Tom appearing small in any shot in the movie.
That was the point.
I don't care what he had to stand on.
Basically any wide shot where they can't fake his height
I will give Nolan some credit: the way the sewer fight is shot makes Bane look like he towers over Bruce (low angle shots for Bane, normal angle shots for Bruce) and it makes sense thematically for this to change as the movie goes on and Batman becomes more of an equal opponent. So him looking smaller in the final fight is okay I guess.
Bane is supposed to be twice Batman his size and towering over him. Hardy just made it a different character.
Bane as a 7'5 luchador who is also a super scientist and Sherlock level genius is, in fact, stupid as hell
Comic book readers are mental infants
Shut up little man.
lol no he isn't. In knightfall he's equal height. when he juices he gets big
He even punches like the cakeboy he is.
lmao that looks fine
Batman is in a huge batsuit and tom is only 5'9 at most and he still looks fine there
Nolan did a great job
You guys are idiots
Bane is supposed to be massive. The fact that he's shorter and his arms look like they're about the same as Bale's makes him less imposing than he should be. It's not Hardy's fault. If they can make Frodo and Gandalf work in a wide shot, they could've done the same with Bane/Batman. Nolan is just lazy.
compared to the comics yeah he's way less imposing. The comic versions also didn't have a giant metal crab mask that fed him drugs. The movie version is just a normal human with drugs who was also apart of the league of shadows, a ninja group. You can't be a giant wrestler and also be a ninja you fricking dolt
Comparing what they did with the lord of the rings with characters are literally half the height of a human male with what nolan did in making his version of bane is fricking hilarious
You're completely dishonest and just wanna talk shit.
>Comparing what they did with the lord of the rings with characters are literally half the height of a human male with what nolan did in making his version of bane is fricking hilarious
Yeah it should've been even easier considering Bane is bald and has a mask on. Just use a big stunt double for the wide shots and Tom for the close ups. It would probably improve Nolan's shit choreography as well because the stunt double can actually fight.
>because the stunt double can actually fight.
Tom has won multiple contests for jiu jitsu and one of his trainers said he was a born combatant and that he lives and breathes jiu jitsu
Yeah lets have some big giant guy as a stand in to fight bale. that would have looked good
Have you seen TDKR anon? The choreography is awful and routinely ridiculed here with countless webms. Having two stunt doubles go at it would've been an improvement.
>I'm not talking about extra costs and tom only had stunt doubles when it was literally needed, not for any shots to make him more physically imposing
You have 0 reading comprehension. I was suggesting they make use of a stunt double to make the size difference more impactful. Not that the movie already did that.
You claimed a stunt double who would actually know how to fight. Tom does, stunt doubles don't. using a stunt double wouldn't have worked and there aren't countless webms showing off how bad it looks. Total dishonesty. you're a little homosexual lol
You claimed
>You don't know anything about movies then. Tom already has stunt doubles.
in reply to when I said
>Thinking nolan should do all these camera tricks and get a stunt double while also having tom is beyond dumb
and that was a reply to
>Just use a big stunt double for the wide shots and Tom for the close ups
Nolan didn't use a stunt double for wide shots to make him look more imposing you stupid dishonest piece of shit
You're the one with fricked reading comprehension and you can't keep up.
Yeah you pushed it too far anon
Everyone can see you're a trolling homosexual
Try being more subtle next time
Get fricking SHREKT
and I'll add, the initial claim was that there were apparently shots of bane where he looked way smaller than others.
Show me one single example of that. there isn't.
Bane looked fine throughout the entire motive.
His voice and dialogue was beyond redicluous in the first scene, and almost the entire second half of the movie is bad, but other than that bane was fine.
The sewer fight scene was perfect. People in the theater was totally shocked and demoralized in silence after that scene ended, I remember.
You're a dumbfrick who has no idea what he's talking about. Thinking nolan should do all these camera tricks and get a stunt double while also having tom is beyond dumb. He didn't need his bane to be completely comic accurate. This wasn't comic book bane you dumbfrick. He didn't need to do anything you're talking about
>Thinking nolan should do all these camera tricks and get a stunt double while also having tom is beyond dumb
You don't know anything about movies then. Tom already has stunt doubles. It wouldn't be an extra cost.
And yeah Nolan specifically uses low angle shots to make Bane look bigger and more intimidating in the sewer fight. And he uses a high angle here to make the other actor look smaller:
Ben Mendelsohn is the same height as Tom Hardy and you can see that in the wide shot with both of them.
I'm not talking about extra costs and tom only had stunt doubles when it was literally needed, not for any shots to make him more physically imposing
You are completely dishonest. Get fricked idiot. you're a horrible listener
>manlet
5'9 is the average american male height
>5'9 is the average american male height
True, but bane is supposed to be a big guy, which means he should be bigger than average.
Maybe in mexifornia
Nolan's Bane is really an amalgamation of Bane, Deacon Blackfire and the mutant leader from Dark Knight Returns. That's why he's bald and has a mask that looks like fangs.
Bane isn't even really a big guy in this
Tom Hardy is based and he refused to juice.
shit movie
Superior version
>Bald man with a nuke the movie
>Chose a 5''6 guy for Bane
>Catwoman doesn't even have cats or much of a personality
>The entire Robin character
This movie was so horribly miscast in contrast to TDK
It’s kind of insane how badly he could flub it after the home run that was TDK. Even The Batman was kino. I remember leaving the theater with my friends and all of us trying to cope with what a letdown it was. We spent the evening trying to convince ourselves it wasn’t shit, and closed out the night finally coming to terms with what a stinker it was
I hated it initially but I've grown to like it and appreciate it more as time has gone on. The script needed another draft or two but it's not nearly as bad as people pretend it is.
The Joker was supposed to play an integral part in the next movie but when Ledger died Nolan had no idea how to finish it. He pretty much just made a direct sequel to Batman Begins considering how little of TDK is in this movie
I think Bane's dialogue is quite good and I don't understand why most of the script is dogshit compared to it. He's quite a poet.
Most of the characters don't really have anything to say. They talk to break the silence. Since the film is trying to be serious these can't just be cheesy one-liners, and there's only so much clunky exposition you can work in, so characters wind up pontificating about nothing in particular. Poignantly vacuous dialogue is a trademark of Nolan films.
you are a pseud, ironically
Sorry I hurt your feelings by criticizing your favorite director.
Pussy has cost you your strength
vegana has defeated youuuuu
never, ever rewatch TDKR. it is a colossal pile of garbo.
Until you master your anger, anger will always be your master.
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They weren't exactly doing Knightfall. In the end it was more like No Man's Land.
We never got to the Azrael arc, which is a pity.
I never read those. I think he was called Jean-something and replaced Batman while he was going through a depression or an ilness. He was from a brotherhood. Azrael took up the cape and was mistaken for Batman for a while. But he was more violent and less forgiving.
It was right after Knightfall, so Bruce was out of commission with a broken back. Jean-Paul Valley was brainwashed by the Order of St Dumas to become Azrael, a heartless assassin, so when he puts on the Bat-cowl his head gets all screwy.
If you win, the number of losers in the world stays the same.
>Thank God my gf taught me morality
>I love being Batman
>Oh shit, my gf won't get back with me until I give up Batman
>Ah, that Dent guy can be Batman, now I can get pussy
>Frick, pussy is dead
>Frick, Dent is dead
>I'm retiring
>Oh damn, new pussy has caused me to un-retire
>Thank God this pussy didn't die
>Now I'm retired again
Wow. What a powerful story.
A tale of ten years, wherein Batman is only Batman for three of them.
Fantastic summary.
This is the one Bane line that completely baffled me on my first watch. I know there’s a lot of talk about how bad the voice for Bane was, and it really was. But all I heard was “Please a garba da ba, dibbity ba gibbity goo”. Absolutely atrocious sound mixing that never should’ve passed the final effort. Only a few minutes later, he delivers the worse line reading in cinematic history, with “but we are initiated bruce, MEMBERS OF THE LEAGUE OF SHADOWS”, in which he delivers the first half of the line like a domestically abusive husband gloating because he found a text on his wife’s phone that he thinks gives him just cause to give her the beating of her life, and the second half like a junkie demanding my phone at knife point so he can flip it for meth money.
And don’t even get me started on “WHERE’S THE TRIGGER! YOU WOULDN’T GIVE IT TO A CITIZEN!” So you know, I have to admit this movie is worse than the previous two, and I can only give it a 7/10.
banes voice during the sewer fight is perfect. you sound like an autist
The sewer fight is hands down the best bit of the film, and it still fizzles. And why yes, my brain is all fricked up. Thank you for noticing.
It doesn't fizzle. It's perfect. Batman is screaming and almost crying because of how much bane is completely demoralizing him physically. It's perfect.
Ok. It does fizzle though.
The best moments of the film are Bruce making the jump out of the pit, and Gordon realizing who Batman really is.
The whole point of stretching it out was to make Batman suffer. He will suffer more if he tries and fails to save Gotham before the bomb goes off.
>It means RISE
yeah nah frick off that shit was gay and so are you
>And don’t even get me started on “WHERE’S THE TRIGGER! YOU WOULDN’T GIVE IT TO A CITIZEN!”
The part I don't understand is that if Bane just wanted to destroy Gotham, and he clearly didn't care if he or any of his followers lived or died, why not just detonate it the second he saw Batman was back? Talia clearly didn't care about living either, so she can't be an excuse.
My friend told me that Bane has never once been defeated in the comics by having Batman cut off his venom wires/tubes. Is that true? It's pretty much a trope at this point that anyone can beat Bane with a scissor by just cutting him off from his supply on venom.
>My friend told me that Bane has never once been defeated in the comics by having Batman cut off his venom wires/tubes. Is that true?
It's how he's beaten in the story he was created for
To be fair, Azrael had already beaten Bane so badly prior to this that cutting him off from Venom was not even necessary.
thats not batman though. thats the homosexual azrael who took over while batmans back was broken
I refuse to believe someone has read every single comic in which Bane is defeated to verify or debunk this claim
Looks cooler than the actual movie
I wish there was a cut with the original voice before they dubbed it