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The pacing was terrible
I'm not one of those dedicated "anti fans" this show has, but the latter half of that episode was a fricking mess
Nah it was good.
It really wasn't
I couldn't care less about anything that happened this episode
We already know charlie isn't going to fix things by episode 4, angel for some reason stopped taking drugs at some point off camera even tho he has conically been at the hotel a short time, even tho we saw the chapters starting to feel comfortable with each other two eps ago, even tho we got confirmation by everyone that the slightest effort hasn't been made, even tho angel is still claiming the hotel is a place he uses to stay away from his pimp, he is supposed to be the one example of Charlie doing things right when all we saw was angel do was put himself in danger and reject drugs once and him taking care of nifty was already something he would have done in episode 1
I get they only got 8 episodes but not like this, we already have characters we don't give a shit about because all they ever did was sing one song and now we got more characters.
I thought vagie being an angel was already too stupid to be real and when we got the reveal I couldn't care less, who the frick is vagie, why does this matter? We know charlie is going to sing a sad song and forgive her
Ever heard of a period?
I'm on one
>We already know charlie isn't going to fix things by episode 4
Why, because characters antagonistic to her goals tell her that? This show is written by an illiterate fat white girl zoomer and somehow it's still too smart for you dumb frickers.
Anon... vivzie is 31
Zoomer is a state of mind
The show has been acting since episode 1 like you already watched a 65 episode show with all of these characters getting super attached to them and watching them change and evolve and grow closer.
The thing is the long fandom creates the MIRAGE that that all happened. Meanwhile people new to the show have just barely met any of these people who get almost no screen time each or character or relationship development onscreen.
I agree that pacing is a major issue, but I also think it's hurts certain plotlines more than others. Angel for instance is particularly brutalized by it because I've only known him in-show for 4 episodes by the time Val beats him. Others are less affected because their plots depend less on personal connections like Alastor's frickery and the Heaven stuff.
8 episode crunch is brutal
The series is truly wants people to fetishize it's concept and characters. It's only strung together by the rabid fanbase's autism-fueled headcanons,fanart,fanfics and theories.
Vivzie let's her fans do all the heavy lifting, she just need to provided the shitty DA OCs, a bare-bones basic concept and barebones OCs and the fans do the rest.
It's basically the same shit that happened with Twilight, it was purposefully milquetoast and bland so fans would superimpose their own personalities and stories onto it. Fueled by shipping and the really moronic lore.
Just because someone is popular does not mean it's good. Infact, most of the time being purposefully vapid in terms of writing and execution can be a boon if people attach to the premise enough.
Or wanna frick the characters. The series as a whole doesn't matter, so long as one of the clipable few seconds got a reaction out of you. It's fricking subway-surfer tier tiktok brainrot.
That's cute, you're wrong
Don’t care. I respect this show infinitely more than AI or corporate slop.
I agree. Emily and Charlie having one good catchy line in an otherwise meh song, doesn't make an episode good. The show pretty much makes you fill in the blank about these characters, their motivations and personality, but I don't know shit about any of these people. The main character has rocks for brains. And the worldbuilding feels all over the place. Can't even fully blame it on it being eight episodes because if the show would simply axe some of these songs this wouldn't be an issue.
The single worst thing about the show is its terrible pacing. The voices are (mostly) great, the music is good, the animation is good. The actual plot threads are good, but the show is not giving any of it enough time to breath or giving us a chance to explore.
As it stands the show feels like its aimed at satisfying people who are already mega-fans of Hazbin.
Which means the last two episodes will likely be rushed
>episode 7 will rush the Charlie and Vaggie forgiving each other even if the trauma should still be strong
>it will rush a lot of hell's denizens lending their support to the hotel even though at this stage no one gives a shit about it
>episode 8 will likely resolve the major conflict in one song
>said song will likely somehow convince sera to reverse her stance
i only pray season 2 has more than 8 episodes
I would bang them.
Lesbians probably.
I bet she knows even less about sex than Charlie and that's hilarious.
So is this a mother&daughter relationship or young&older sister?
Sisters
Definitely sisters
It was really good, i'm really into the series now
Instead of making a new thread I'll drop this here.
What if Adam did not eat the fruit of knowledge in this universe. And when he said "I've never done anything wrong in my entire life" it was because he actually DOES believe this. He is actually (technically) the most innocent character in the show because he does not, cannot understand his actions are wrong.
His heart does not have any malice, he is just as ignorant as it is possible to be. When he does "wrong" things it's like a little kid not understanding why burning ants with a magnifier is wrong. That is why he is in heaven, not hell. It's why the opening of Ep 1 curiously shows Eve eating the fruit but Adam goes unmentioned. That's why when he writes his post-it note he shows he has literally NO IDEA what gets someone into heaven. Adam can understand when other people don't want him to do something, but he is incapable of noticing the evil in his actions. He does not know what evil is, or what "wrong" is.
That could have worked if they didn't show him enjoying killing and being a dick, just accept they are gonna waste his character, i mean he could be a fun villain instead, but we don't have too many scenes with him, and his only good scenes are when he is singing
you can kill and enjoy it and not be evil. a cat that tortures a mouse isn’t evil because the cat has no idea that what it’s doing is wrong. if adam didn’t eat the fruit, he would be innocent
I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
Imagine how different (better) this show could've been if we got this Lucifer
Why drop such a twist on a character who couldn't matter less?
You know vivz treats actual bad guys as disposable just watch helluva boss
You’re taking the show way too seriously. It’s about gay sex and daddy issues and nothing else.
So it's tailor-made for Cinemaphile
Yes
I know that it's about gay sex and daddy issues but it fuels my hatred for gays in a passive sort of way.
the first I heard of this show I absolutely hated the gay spider guy, but after having sat through his episode I really hate how gays manipulate people and actually feel kindof bad for the spider.
That's too clever for Vivzie
Honestly was hoping the twist would be Adam actually would've gone to hell, but the Angels couldn't stand their creation being a failure so they fricked with the rules and brought him to heaven, which inadvertently caused the morals of what allows someone into heaven vs hell to be messed up.
It's a good theory, I'd believe it if Adam didn't apologize after he gloated over Charlie and Vaggie, but an apology is an admission that you were wrong.
He apologises because his boss calls him out on it, not because he actually thinks he did anything wrong. It's like reprimanding a dog.
That's an interesting theory, the problem is that it hinges on Adam not being shown to eat the fruit as a deliberate choice instead of an oversight due to the lack of care put into the religious references.
Not understanding malice or guilt whatsoever describes characters from another series pretty well.
>the "ideal" human free from original sin is a amoral hedonistic sociopath who's incapable of understanding his actions as wrong
nah that's way to clever for vivize. have a bunch of gay depressed demons instead
that’s what innocence is. innocence is not moral rectitude. animals are innocent, you don’t call them evil for playing with their food.
I really hope they dont just kill off Adam and Lute in episode 8, they are by far, the most interesting characters of the show. The whole thing about this show is that everyone can be redeemed, so lets try to actually redeem the show's antagonists.
This is something a Christian might come up with if they were writing the show. The person actually behind the wheel however just wrote Adam in to be a giga Chud that can be bested by the always right and pure self-insert main character, it's as shrimple as that.
Why are you autists taking this show so fricking seriously? It's literally just Family Guy for fat lesbians
Probably because the show had the chance to be great but Viv fricked it up like the hack she is.
You have to headcanon shit since the show is rushed and leaves so many holes to fill.
This, holy shit those youtube channels making "theories" might as well retitle their videos as "fixers" of each episode.
banger theory, vivzie absolutely didn't think about this though.
Emily and Lute for miss Cinemaphile!
Good to see they didn't go the easy way and made everyone in heaven like Adam, but the vaggie stuff had no impact because this show goes really fast, and even if not evil, the heaven people seem incredibly stupid, overall the problem with the show is that it doesn't give enough time to build plots and characters up, so most things just feel melodramatic
I enjoyed the designs for the characters a lot, even the background ones. They are pretty and aesthetic in general. The big anime eyes and pointy chin is a win. The subtle cat/dog snout when the characters look to the sides and the hair overlaping the face reminds me of MLP FiM designs (not a bad thing in this case). I enjoyed the music but a single song per episode would be better. The characters are not as obnoxious as I initially thought (except for Adam). I'm not in love with what I see but almost
I want to frick Emmy
we all do
The /u/ vibes where kind of obvious.
I need more sexo art from them, they've drawn breasts and wiener so it's not out of their range
Were can I fine more of this?
Aval0nx on baraag, they posted some good ones. They're in these threads, and if you're nice they MIGHT draw your request. Hoping they draw some more Charlie x Emily action myself
>They've already drawn Emily x Vaggie x Charlie
Very nice.
Thank you anon.
world peace achieved.
who tops? I vote for vaggie and charlie double teaming emily
No, the foot soldier will be fricked by Charlie and Emily since they're royals, Vaggie will learn her place
I need MORE breasts!!! (please)
>AvalonX is a Hazbin fan who is here in Cinemaphile and is even drawing requests
What a fricking timeline we live in.
The best one
he just seems like a drawgay to me, is he notorious for something i'm not aware of?
uh....
oh
I take back anything nice I said about him before
Careful Cinemaphilemarade, It's friday night motherfrickers and he might just might be lurking behind the scenes. WATCHING ( ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ), gotta keep the requests simple and non explicit, I'm still a "personal non grata" around these parts.
dats a cute charlie
if this is avalonx, my request is to draw alastor getting hit with the stone cold stunner
if not, well just in case he's lurking
please don't boost this guy, he's a literal pedophile and a furry, his kind isn't welcome here, best if he just fricks off to /trash/
Good, maybe then he can finish his fricking Cream coomer game after abandoning it for years
You do know that I do not have control over whether that game gets made or not, right? I only came up with the original concept then the others came and took it and rolled with it. I only do the art for it, writing, coding, testing, that's other people's part.
Yes and no, I post non Sanic stuffs on my baraag page, I share stuff with people on Discord, but I don't have a channel or group, I don't have the time for that.
$50K money up front
IT'S AWWWWRIGHT...sorry I couldn't resist...
look if someone pays you $$$ for drawing a cartoon character getting fricked by dad bod bugs bunny, that $$$ goes a long way towards paying a fricking mortgage, kek
>$50k upfront
time to put verbalase to shame
How would a threesome with Fizz, Charlie and Vaggie be like?
Sir Pentious, and make it funny and adorable like he is on the show.
Love your work
I'd love to see that Emily and Charlie action on your baraag if you're ever gracious enough to bless us with that. But for Cinemaphile appropriate...
Could you draw this as Adam please? Or any character that might be more fitting for it
I’m actually hoping they explore Charlie’s relationships with the other Sins, since Viv described them and Lucifer as a circus troupe at one point so assumably they are friends.
They are from Helluva, so sadly that's not gonna happen
Satan, Leviathan, and Belphegor haven't appeared yet so they have a chance. Either way sucks the big honchos right below Lucifer can't appear on the main show.
Aval0n do you take commissions
You're a bloody fricking legend mate.
Requesting pinups of Emmy, both her forms
Also a seat in the confession booth. We never know…
Seconding
Also Cinemaphilenfess anon(s)
Pinups are hard to make...Confession Booth however...I got you senpai...
Beautiful as always.
Would you be willing to make one of one of them getting sandwiched in between the other two? Or is that baraag exclusive?
>I accidentally fricked Ozzies whole factory...
congratulations I'm still laughing. I now headcanon Emily as this version.
very good
>"I'm sorry god, but I think Sera is a lost cause"
>"No, I don't think even hell could contain her"
>You’re right Sera. jerking off and Voyeurism is wrong. I’ll just join them right now!
>You're right big sister, this is all wrong, Im gonna go rape Charlie instead!
What could that kid that Vaggie spared have done to earn a place in hell?
I thought all children were innocent, or is this a Dennis the Menace situation?
He was the Helluva Boss shit.
It's possible it wasn't actually a kid and they just looked young like Nifty
He wasn't baptized. Huge L
I really like Emily and am sad they didn't have the ability to let us spend a little more time with her before the Hell is Forever reprise. It would have hit harder if we were really familiar with this naive, good natured little angel and had a sense of how outraged she really was.
Emily is gonna get 'there is no war in ba sing se'd' and fallen for trying to agitate on the genocide thing. Watch.
I want to frick Sera
>Men bad.
I find this show more annoying and boring with each thread.
>Man bad
Wrong thread moron
If lucifer was yet another butthole dad maybe but the fact that Viv of all people made a likeable dad who loves his daughter makes me think otherwise
I think Viv wants her daddy to push her harder and frick her deeper.
This is a joke right? You guys dont really think daughters want their dads to stick their big wieners inside them against their will right?
Against their will? No. It would be a very mutual and passionate affair. Deep, sensual kisses... sweaty bodies under the sheets, hands exploring... Her hands find his passion for her, and she lines him up... Breathing gets heavy...
God this shit is so bad. I guess people are so fricking desperate for anything new that they'll take anything
One more time, artist telling the world that they're the most annoying motherfrickers ever and that every twitter artist should be curbstomped
>Verification not required
>Go to media tab
This motherfricker is supposedly an art student, animation future is dead, isn't it?
Forgot to add the screenshot
>Hates Viv
>makes tumblr sexyman like viv's
yeah, you better stick with japanese artists.
Their called Ankle biters because their below you.
Success breeds jealousy.
etc
I hate having to be such a Vivzie simp, But why should Vivzie even care if these frick-up's like her?
It's very common
>"Vivzie is bad at Character design / Hazbin's animation is trash"
>Their character designs and attempts at animation are childrens drawing tier
Anyone this person is against must be at least moderatly based.
wow what a virulent anti-semite. I hope he gets booted from his art college
This motherfricker draws like picrelated
You can't make this shit up, look, I accept vivziepop critics but why do all these supposed "artist" that critize her draw like shit?
Jealousy?
Cause some of them are kids on the Internet who hasn't seen any other art style that isn't in front of their screens. Invader Zim and Adventure Time had an iron fist on the Internet as an art style for the longest time
Nono, that's the worrying thing, the person who did the image I posted IS A FRICKING ART STUDENT WHO HAS BEEN LONG ENOUGH ON HIS CAREER TO DO ANIMATION MEETINGS
the future of American animation is black
Ever been to art school? It's always been like this, with college in general. Some people are just gonna be shitty artists, and others learn to improve on it. That's why people make connections. Nothing new, so chill out for a bit the future of animation doesn't depend on college students, it just helps
This guy below is right
In the past these people got filtered out during hiring. But when the early affirmative action for women happened companies realized they could game the system by just stick unproffessional women in HR to get affirmative action bucks. So they let in the morons rather than gatekeeping them.
LMAO they don't, they mass hire, fire who they just hired and do the cycle all over again when a tag is trending for brownie points, why do you think people turned their backs on Netflix in recent years when it was the "hope" for small voices.
>People still haven't realized it.
Those weird kids from Tumblr we all made fun of? That was 10 years ago. They're adults now and they got jobs in the industry.
Not just Tumblr but newgrounds, Cinemaphile, and reddit kids have been in the industry for awhile. Turns out kids grow up and follow their dreams, go figure that some of them are gonna make cringy TV shows about hell or something
kek vivziepop deserves all the hate she gets
One good "frick you" is fine, but when everyone does it over every single surprise moment it loses the charm
>influenced by Seth Rogan comedies
Jesus Christ
>Seth Rogan
It was over before it even begun. She's lucky some of these VAs can sing
Listen man I'm not saying people can't improve but has anyone noticed that like the most vocal haters of popular shit (SU, TOH, now HH/HB) all draw like this? Also yeah Viv is a shitty person but she's the most recent big success story, why wouldn't schools want to invite her.
>Leftist.
>Utterly consumed by petty envy.
>Genocidal and supports a terrorist shithole.
Why are all of these homosexuals so conformist in their moronation?
Weakness corrupts.
You need to understand these people are extremely concerned with considering themselves good people, and indifferent to actually being good people
We can shit on Vizzie for a lot of things, but I will give her credit- she's not fake. A lot of internet famous people -Arin Hanson for example, become fake as shit once their popularity picks up. Like Arin was an edgy newground artist and once Grumps took off and made him rich he cleaned up a ton so that grumps wouldn't get in trouble, then talks shit on newgrounds artists.
Vizze always has been a lolcow. She didn't change into a goodie two shoes when Amazon picked up the show. No instead she stays the same argue with teenagers, swear and make lewd comments about her characters cow.
I'm greatful for that, she's a real b***h.
>she's a real b***h
and a real backstabber too
The soul the original VAs poured into their characters and how they helped raise money for the show shouldn't be overlooked
Not to mention all the extra stuff they did like songs
From what I understand these were fairly little guys at the time
Man it must have sucked to learn Amazon would be picking your show up just to get a notice later you'd be replaced for established industry people.
From what I understand they were simply not even asked to reprise the role
Didn't even get a notice
That's so fricked up
I'm doing some voice work for a project that I am really passionate about and it would break my heart if I got replaced for some big name later down the line
Luckily the people I'm working with are based but it's painful to imagine
You could tell how much those pilot VAs loved the characters
Its amazing how Arins fanbase today is the complete opposite of his fanbase 15 years ago
IF HELL IS FOREVER THEN HEAVEN MUST BE A LIE
IF ANGELS CAN DO WHATEVER BUT
REMAIN IN THE SKY
[6] And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and prostitutemongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
if he was truly an all loving father then he would never stop trying to get them to repent.
He waited for their entire lives for them to repent and they refused.
what part of never stop do you not understand?
tbf in dante they actively choose to enter hell. I can’t remember which canto, maybe II, dante asks charon why the souls of the damned willingly board his boat, and he tells them they seek the thing which destroys them. their hell is a continuation of the life they lead in earth in a way. they blame god, their parents etc for creating them rather than themselves as they board the boat. if you’re going by what christians thought, then the damned actively despise god and anything to do with heaven and so they exist in a space without either, they’re not really people though, dante calls them shades, they can’t think of act like normal people. there’s one point where dante pities the two adulterous lovers and says love should be punished, and virgil replies that if they had any genuine love they wouldn’t be in hell, they loved what the other could give them. it’s more complex than you could really do in a cartoon that’s light hearted though- though I will say more people should actually read dante. it’s so much more bizarre and interesting than you think
>viVziEhacK iS NoT bOuNd bY biBliCaL cAnOn, tHe ShOw iS mEreLy iNsPiReD bY jUdEo-ChRiStiAn MyThOs
Ah, NOW I see why it just HAD to be an "actress of color."
It had so much to do with her character and her story.
I honestly would not have noticed the va was black without Viv telling me so in that leak picture
pppsstttt!....H.R. lady speak, 'we need actors and actresses of colour!' is just the polite way of saying you need a Black women gospel singing voice / Black man's low brass voice to fit the character
I'll actually side with this. And I am a /misc/ tier nazi.
She wants a voice actress who is black because blacks have certain voice characteristics. She wants one in her late 30s because that also has voice characteristics. Yes, the voice actress literally has to do with character.
>I'll actually side with this.
Why you onions little maggot, you make me want to vomit.
You can just say she wanted gospel music
wait there's an actual God in this system? I thought it was just angels and nothing above them
I thought the angels just had tans from being in the light all the time.
>Speaker of God
So Metatron is going to show up and flex on some heathens?
Sera and metatron crackship
Emily needs a good father figure n her life
So if shes at the top that probably means theres no Michael in this show which means no Uncle Mikey and Charlie scene
More Jap art of Alastor please.
Those character sheets and leaks are the only thing keeping this story together, because if those didn't exist I'd have no clue what Emily's entire deal even is.
Will Charlie make a deal with Alastor to save the hotel?
Kind of seems like Al might be setting things up that way, aiming to earn her trust as a father figure, just enough to make her drop her guard. Then he'd basically be like the Behelit in Berserk, when Charlie is at her most desparate she goes to him and forms a debt bond.
My dearest b***h, I do sincerely hope Alastor still has a motive of some kind. I'm starting to doubt it, though.
Alistor is all powerfull but at the end of the day he is still locked in hell just as much as the weakest demon.
He is looking for a way to get out, and Charlie is part of that plan, but he has no intrest in redemption, he wants to get out as a demon and frick up shit in heaven and hell.
That at least is my theory.
Can’t he go to the human world like how Blitzo did when he was looking for his sister?
This has been my theory for a while. He's gonna wait till she's cornered then pull out the Deal.
Yah I'm hoping the end of s1 helps establish him as one of the main villains. Think he'd be way more compelling as a character that way
Is this true? Is vivziepop a Zionist? Or is just because she ate at McDonald's and Starbucks and everyone on Twitter is a complete moron
Also I think we should grab the artist that talk like the motherfricker in this post and hit them until they stop being morons
>Verification not required
iirc, Their calling Viv a 'Zionist' recently because she posted a photo of her and some co-workers eating at a McDonalds or having coffee and tea at a Starbucks or smth. She didn't even mention their foreign-policy shit-flinging or israelites or Arabs/Muzzies at all. She just isn't taking part in their 'boycott' against a company for an issue she seemingly dosen't care about.
These people are insane.
Ok EVERYONE, I'm gonna ask directly
>Do you know anybody who is not terminally online that is boycotting?
No and the way they really think they're making a dent and it will matter. Peak virtual signalling
The real irony here is that the Palestinian people have called for those companies to be boycotted for well over a decade now and the only reason it matters now is that Israel and Palestine are back on the front page
>Vivzie with the sigma 'I don't care about that issue, Im happy for you, Or feel sorry for you, Whatever makes you happy i guess'
So basically you're either with us or against us. But they will come crying to the one's who wanted to remain neutral when someone actually against them even affirms their own existence.
>Last week they were calling her anti-semitic for having a character with a crooked nose and money problems.
>Now they are calling her a Zionist.
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, they just want to hate her.
You can be both though
There's a whole bunch of people who hate israelites but support israel either to make them all go there, for religious reasons (evangelicals) or because they hate arabs more
lute is not adam's gf she's his PURE daughteru
Nope, they bang on a daily dasis (Viv told me)
Nah, the show's pacing killed any momentum any of these important story beats should have had.
Can't stay at home, can't stay in school
Old folks say, "You poor little fool"
Down the streets I'm the girl next door
I'm the fox you've been waiting for
Hello, daddy, hello, mom
I'm your ch-ch-ch-cherry bomb
Hello world I'm your wild girl
I'm your ch-ch-ch-cherry bomb
its too perfect for her bros.
They cry in the dark
So you can't see their tears
They hide in the light
So you can't see their fears
Forgive and forget
All the while
Love and pain become one and the same
In the eyes of a wounded child
Because hell, hell is for children
And you know that their little lives can become such a mess
Hell, hell is for children
And you shouldn't have to pay for your love
With your bones and your flesh
oh shit boi you making AMV's for the characters?
Nah that pic was snapped by someone in an older thread just playing the episode.
That song was the first thing I thought of when I saw that character. Would be good AMV fodder.
I'm late, Link pls
Viv walked right into this joke and just made Charlastor more popular.
Also Amir might be a Charlastor shipper.
I find it funny that guy with the 50k music video got so infatuated with Charlie in just the pilot alone. Not even the series, the pilot.
I wonder what he thinks of her now, with her being a massive ditz.
Wonder if hes pissed the design changed
>oh no my music video no longer matches the final design! guys, I need 5k again to remake it!
If there was ever an episode that should've been double length it's this one. Absolutely no reason to not spend more time in Heaven.
Why are there Bible-thumping boomers on Cinemaphile?
cuz the last episode inspired people to call out their logical fallacies.
they’re zoomers. most fedora tippers are in their 30s and middle aged by now
Unironically due to 2015-2016 politics shit. They even bragged about using this site and being "hip" in their Trump subreddits.
the whole 2016 thing is such a larp. there was massive reddit Cinemaphile cross contamination way earlier. r/jailbait and r/greatapes were full of people from Cinemaphile. people forget that reddit used to have a load of edgy shit on it. redditors started using the site in 2010 at least.
We have more business here than you because we actually have children who watch cartoons
To be fair there have been christians (actual ones) on Cinemaphile for a long ass time. I remember lots of them in latin threads and the like.
The music is good, but everything else is shallow and unsubtle and extremely rushed.
Alastor walked back on his primary motivation. He apparently started to care for the hotel offscreen. Aint that convenient?
Sinners should rape the Angels.
Calm down Val
That's what Charlie is trying to do.
One thing I wish they kept in is the whole "You will fricking die if you look upon an uncloaked Angel" aspect. Like I'd prefer if the real reason Vaggie went is because anyone else would've turned to ash the second they went through the portal.
THIS ISNT HEAVEN! GOD AND JESUS ARE NOWHERE IN SIGHT! BLASPHEMY!
It's not our blasphemy, it's Viviennes. I hope she gets things straight before the end.
God damn you homosexual Christian morons are a pain. Youre worshipping two different gods as one and you don't even know it. Frick off.
I'm trans btw
>Youre worshipping two different gods as one and you don't even know it.
Which two are you even referring to? Yaweh and Zeus?
El
>like a 3000 year gap between the two faiths
Try again.
nice HRT meltdown, homosexual.
>I, a casual critic of THE MAN, have evidence that would make 2000 years of full-time theologians look REALLY SILLY
>I heard it from this other casual critic friend of mine
WHERE THE FRICK IS THE NEW HELLUVA BOSS EPISODE.
It's never coming out! it got cancelled ha ha ha!
Alastor is going to kill Loona, butcher her and make a Rump roast. Then feed her to hotel guests.
So, is there a mega or something?
You can find every episode on daily motion
When is Michael going to ENTER?
Never, we got only one biblical angel in St. Peter. And after seeing him, I'd kind of rather they stayed away from the others.
Sera made it sound she's following orders too
I'm still waiting on King Solomon
Why would you want him to show up? The lore for how Lucifer has fell and thus the one thing Michael is known for doesn't exist in this universe. What do you want him to show up and do? Sing crappy show tunes?
>Sing crappy show tunes?
Isn't that why every character showed up?
Michael and Lucifer being angsty brother or some shit probably
children its literally all children
>We are coming for your hotel first
Jokes on Adam, theres like no one there
Lucifer's song sounded a bit like Genie's song from Aladdin
He gave a lot of Genie vibes in the song, too. The multiple clones, the different outfits (restaurant scene as an example), summoning stuff to offer to Charlie to show off. He had big Genie vibes in it and I loved it.
I can’t wait for Sara to be proven right when the illusionary walls between heaven and hell completely destabilize letting in the cosmic horrors that existed before creation. Way to end all of reality, Charlie.
it looks like it's not just the Twitter fans into this, but the normies could be as well
does anyone know normies irl that watch this show? what do they think of it? does the pacing or other common complaints bother them at all?
If you look up some of the songs that got released onto Youtube just a few hours ago, they have like 500k - 1 million plus views already. I don't know anybody that watches it IRL, but I'd imagine that it's mostly popular with teenage girls and that demographic has a large overlap with Twitter.
He moronic
I want Alastor to hold me cheek in his hand the same way he held Charlie's during that song...
Well this was a waste of perfectly good trips.
How powerful do you guys think Gabriel (a) is?
Leave the overlords, 7 deadly sins, charlie and lucifer to me
Maskless Adam when?
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
Asked this question in the other thread, but didn't realise it had already hit bump limit and was gonna slide off soon.
Do you guys think that Charlie was/is 'in on the joke' in regards to Alastor saying all the shit he did about them 'having a great bond' and him 'thinking of her like a daughter', And knew he was just saying it to agitate Lucifer? Or is she deluded into thinking Alastor is actually being serious?
She jumps to Alastor's defence when he's tearing up and Voreing people in front of the Hotel because 'even he cares more then you do dad!' or whatever she exactly said.
she is delusional it is clear she doesn't understand underhanded behavior and is naive as shit.
sheltered nepo baby
I want Viv to actually be brave enough to have Alastor be the villain he was made out to be, And for him to shatter Charlie's heart by revealing all that stuff he said and the music numbers and fixing the Hotel for her was just 80d chess move to frick her over or smth.
I am 90% sure that is what will happen and Alastor will have his redemption arc after that catastrophe.
If Valentino doesn't get a redemption arc then neither should Alistor. Both are equally trash.
Those are how these demon peoples feet canonically look? eww....
They've got matching hoovsies, Their perfect!
Will Alastor take his new wife, Charlie, to Earth and honeymoon in New Orleans
She moans when Al strokes her cheek.
This episode was so fire and the punchline in reprisal is something a lot of people like myself have felt.
I guess im an oldgay, its just...crazy to me the speed of which fanart gets drawn these days. Like, artists are drawing three seconds after the episode is done and the really skilled ones are posting art within 1/2 hours to catch that clout.
Like, does anyone remember when it took longer?
terminally online neet culture my dude.
autism in full effect
I remember experiencing this feeling back when Undertale came out. Watching the fandom build up in an instant and start creating memes and art abnormally fast, as if it was being pumped out by a machine. Like so much of it was made to exist simply because people felt it was obliged to exist sort of stuff. Fandoms nowadays are nothing like the old ones, even as early as 2010 with the brony fandom things were different. The internet has changed, evolve or die old man.
you mean a trite platitude people like you have been repeating for 20 years
are we wrong though?
Christianity has been doing its shit for 2000 my homie why you harping on us?
because I guess I just don’t know how else you construct a fair afterlife. if you dislike god, or whatever moral system god stands for and represents, surely heaven is just going to be hell for you. an eternity constantly in the presence of god without sin, if you are convinced that god is either incorrect or antagonistic to you, is just going to be hell. assuming souls cannot be destroyed, I don’t see any other way than offering a space where god is absent, or morality is absent, or accountability, or whatever part of the truth of reality offended you. if you’re going to say people have free will, then the logical conclusion of that is that they’re free to reject god infinitely, and live without him. if that ends up being an awful space of competing egos and chaos, well, there’s nothing there you didn’t take with you
>construct
I mean I don't need to construct shit my guy. If religious shit isn't real it isn't real.
If the morality doesn't make sense for a perfectly loving father to torture his children eternally it doesn't make sense I don't need to make anything work.
not really responding in any way to what I said. the reality is that if there are objective moral laws, you overcome your ego to conform to them, or you exist in a space absent of them. that is fair, and if free will exists in the hereafter, it is necessary. if you hate whatever god is, being with him would be torture. if you want to live without god, and it ends up sucking, well that’s what you asked for, it’s simply a spiritual continuation of how you conducted your earthly life. people who can’t take responsibility for their actions or cannot accept that they could be wrong, ie, cohere to a higher power, are free to live forever without it. that is fair to me
sir that is a god primarily focused on Justice and not love.
I don’t really agree. If you force someone who hates you and what you are to exist with you forever, that isn’t love. Love is a two way street and both parties have to be active in that. Someone telling you they love you, and you not wanting their love, and them then spiritually kidnapping you and forcing you to bear witness to their love forever is not really loving. It’s a platitude, but if you love someone, set them free. They have to want to help themselves before your help can be accepted, if you love someone, you respect their autonomy as a dignified being imbibed with their own freedom to destroy themselves if they really don’t want your love. That’s what a relationship is, it’s mutual. If the system were based on justice, people would pray to god for that, but they don’t. They ask for mercy, but that’s the rub, you have to ask. I still hold my position that letting someone walk down into oblivion because they do not love god is the most loving act possible, and the greatest degree of respect for their being possible. To do anything else would be coercive and patronising
If he was a perfectly loving father he would stop at nothing to prevent their pain and change them.
Eternal suffering is either him giving up or enjoying the suffering.
either way it is evil
That’s what i’m saying though. Past a certain point, what do you do? If someone has decided they want nothing to do with you, that whatever values of goodness they cannot or will not align with, that they will not accept responsibility for their actions or be moved beyond the limit of their own ego in love for others, what recourse do you have for salvation except stripping them of their identity, free will and autonomy? It’s like a junkie, you cannot in most cases force them to be better, they have to want it. You see them destroying themselves and you can only support and love them and hope they reciprocate and come back to you for help. That’s what i’m saying. It would be eternal suffering for that person to be in heaven, because it’s a forced, coercive state of being with an entity whose values and existence they hate. That would be hellish. Equally, liquifying someone’s mind and personality to force them to love you sounds evil. In my mind, the only recourse is to simply give them the choice to exist without you. If they won’t see the error of their ways, if they don’t want a relationship with you, fine. Their afterlife will be a continuation of the emptiness and selfishness of their worldly one, they get nothing they didn’t take with them. There’s a choice between overcoming what you are and gaining the infinity antecedent to that choice, or existing in whatever the space of your own ego can offer. If you’re forced to do anything else, I don’t deem that as fair. I agree that god would probably never stop loving that person, but the question becomes if at a certain point they become incapable of changing and reciprocating that. That’s ultimately what I would see hell as, stagnancy. There would be infinite minds to commune with in heaven, deeper and deeper revelations about reality beyond what you thought possible. People who worship themselves don’t want that though, they don’t want to be contradicted.
He is the Lord, the almighty ruler, master, and creator of the universe.
If his will does not break to most stubborn of sinners or angels to accept perfect love then he is not God.
Or are they stronger than him? Is their will greater?
If you say break, you’re implying force. I think if god has to force people to love him the entire system undermines itself. What was the point? You’re creating people with free will, to determine themselves infinitely, but ultimately you just say, nope, there was only really one option all along. You may as well make people without free will at that point. If you’re sharing your existence with little beings you make, in your image, that is with your own imagination, freedom, and dignity in a miniature imitated form, you contradict all three of those things by deciding to take them away because their choices end up hurting them. The natural result of free will in my opinion is hell, there has to be an avenue for people who never repent, and who do not want a relationship with god. Him forcing that relationship upon them seems to be a violation of making them free in the first place
you took 'break' which is commonly used to denote people giving in and switched it to refer to God forcing himself.
you twisted the argument.
No i’m not saying that, sorry if it was unclear. I mean god forcing people. I think love is incoherent with forcing people to do anything.
and I meant people giving in of their own will not god forcing them in
here is the end of it all
He is this great and all powerful god and father
The only acceptable morality from a parent is unconditional love
His glory and status demand absolute success from all things he does.
But there are children of his eternally suffering.
Therefore he is a failure, and his glory is false.
He can't look upon sin, and can't force people to obey Him without revoking free will. You have to willingly choose to live righteously, rather than living in sin.
There is no excuse for the great Lord of hosts.
If the sinners cannot be loved and bask in his glory then has he not failed?
"Turn, O Lord, deliver my life;
save me for the sake of your steadfast love.
5For in death there is no remembrance of you;
in Sheol who will give you praise?"
Does the lord not deserve the praise of those in sheol?
Is he too weak to redeem those sinners? Can he make no plan?
Are the creatures more powerful than the creator? and can subdue his will with their own?
I don’t know what your issue is here specifically. Sheol is for those who don’t want to praise him, there’s no weakness for involved in redemption because it’s not a movement of force but the choice of an individual to repent. Of course creatures aren’t more powerful than the creator, the entire point is that he could have made slaves, and he could just annihilate their autonomy and force them to love him. But then it’s not really love, is it? Why would he give people a will just to subdue it?
Yes, to be loved by god is to exist. You exist insofar as you are willed by god to be. Again, hell is a state of the rejection of god. How is he inflicting pain on them, when their pain is coming from their absence of a true relationship with him? They are actively harming themselves
see
If the sinners remain in Hell he has failed and there is no glory for God. He can always strive with a spirit. And no spirit would be able to last in the end.
and why would they? they would be literally resisting altruism from God.
"For it is better to give, than receive"
the words of your god there.
He wants to give people things. supposedly.
I don’t agree that it’s a failure. I think it’s a victory of gods own consistency and promise to people. You are made free, and if you love me as I love you, you will exist in me forever. Likewise, if you don’t, you won’t. Those are the conditions set up. If he then has to contradict himself, out of some sort of insecurity- which is what this is, for god would be so total, being existence itself, not even rightly a thing but an act of being, if such a things glory were conditioned on the contingent beings it made loving it or not, it had no glory in the first place and needed it conferred by things other than itself. Allowing the logical conclusions of free will to an infinite degree, that is, some parts of it’s creation rejecting it forever, is an affirmation of glory, of a god that does not need man, but wants him. He doesn’t have to contradict himself to hoodwink every soul into devotion, because he doesn’t need anything. He made them free and loves them, to the point where he would allow an everlasting consequence of that freedom being taken to its extreme. Again, god doesn’t need you to love him, he wants you to.
"You are made free, and if you love me as I love you, you will exist in me forever"
This is not a good father, it is an immoral monster.
Here is the end of it all. None of this shit matters, free will, stockholm shit none of it matter in this argument. People are eternally tormented and no matter the circumstances it is an unacceptable result for anybody making the stand as 'God'.
free will doesn't excuse him. It is a failure or he doesn't love.
Or more likely he doesn't exist (as I figure)
Do you not understand what a god is? He exceeds everything else and is contained by nothing.
I don’t agree.
>unconditional love
Which is not coercive. If you love someone unconditionally, you love them no matter what they do, and that includes rejecting a relationship with you.
>absolute success from all things he does
Where’s the failure? He have people free will, they used it. I don’t think love has a failure state, it’s not a game. If you love someone and they don’t love you back, you haven’t failed. Your love is still there, they just don’t reciprocate it. A failure state would be creating free creatures, and then having to deprive them of freedom to “win” and get them to love you.
>eternally suffering
If they suffer as a result of what they actively will, then it isn’t some kind of prison they need to be rescued from. It’s a decision, a disastrous one, but a decision nonetheless. True glory isn’t forcing a capitulation where it would be effortless to do so, but allowing freedom to persist against you because it is not a threat to you. There’s no game to be won, there’s the fact that all of what you are is subsistent on his willing it. Nothing can threaten being itself, so the glory is in the fact that it doesn’t need to win
>unconditional love
If you love them even if they reject you, you will give them good things and not want them to suffer.
>failure
He is God there is no excuse, no room for the failure to bring glory to his name.
If a sinner rots in hell for all eternity where is the glory for God?
If part of his glory is the all loving father then no child of his can be forgotten or left to suffer.
>Free will
Free will cannot stop the will of God
"So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?”
It would not make sense if he could.
He could simply devise more and more elaborate plans to try to bring the sinners into his salvation.
And he would stop at nothing. If he was who he said he was.
If you exist you are loved by god. I don’t think damnation is a state of being unloved, just a state of rejecting your relationship with god and therefore not being in a state of witness and harmony with him. But the end result of free will is that some people will say no, over and over again, no matter what. You either force a relationship on them, which is hellish, or you respect their freedom. You cannot coherently talk about love and forcing someone to love you, that’s stockholm syndrome.
it is not complicated. If he loved them forever he would just keep making new and fantastic things to convince a person to be his child and repent.
perhaps a new reality or universe. It should be an easy task for the great lord of hosts.
your argument boils down to that free will can stop god from achieving what he says is a good goal and brings glory to his name.
The bible says you are wrong. see Romans 9
and your god is weak.
Your point is conditioned on the idea that god needs anything to be glorious. He doesn’t, which is itself wherein lies glory. Of course it would be good if everyone came to him, but it is a greater good we assume that people are created able to freely come to him. If not, they would not be free.
Anyway, it’s 7am here in the uk and i’ve not slept, so goodnight. I won’t be able for reply again
"my guy" "homie" "harping" you sound like a fricking monkey. Strong dismantle your fricking head.
The episode relies on heaven being dumbasses just so Charlie can be proven right, and also everything is super rushed, per usual.
what’s even more unnerving is that the guy works as a school bus driver and has a blog on his inkbunny where he mentions literally being run out of his hometown for something vague.
>adam was the first human soul to enter heaven
Does Viv not know about Cain and Abel?
that’s true wouldnt abel be the first dude to die?
Do you? Neither of them would be in heaven or hell until end times. Only two people enjoyed an afterlife in canon.
Apparently not, do Christians really believe their souls exist in some kind of ethereal waiting room till judgement day? That kinda sucks.
It's a nice place. See Lazarus' account.
No most believe in an afterlife but it's not supported in scripture. You aren't in a waiting room. You're just fricking worm food until Jesus and God decide to resurrect everyone for a bit of judgement and eternal punishment.
You're not really waiting, it would be a place with no concept of time. You'd essentially arrive there at the same time people hundreds of years before you did and hundreds of years after. And then judgement
it depends what era you’re talking about. medieval christians believed in a load of different shit. aquinas believed you were just sort of dead, or in a sleep state, until you were resurrected. anglo saxon christians believed your soul went to hell or heaven, but then on judgement day you would be sent bodily into one or the other. and then there’s purgatory where most people go, which is like a sort of hell but one where you actively want to suffer. i wouldn’t worry too much about it
Viv kept insisting she took a religious course in college and how she knows the lore but there are so many holes in this shit. And all this bullshit about being too weak to depict Jesus or God makes no sense because then what's with the cross imagery? St. Peter? All the times "Christ on stick" and "oh my God" have been said? This is supposed to be le edgy adult cartoon but it's too scared to do anything controversial aside from spamming the f bomb
Considering how far left and reddit atheist colleges are, it would explain Viv making a show like Hazbin Hotel.
I'm definitely sure she's lying about that on top of being bi and shit.
>don't you shush me b***h
I love Adam
Sir Pentious is quickly rising up my list of favorite characters. I loved his gag in episode 5
Is Vaggie going to reveal she's an angel to the rest of the hotel guests? Everyone is going to be guessing why Charlie seems so upset. How's that going to go down?
It will be resolved in 5 minutes over a rushed "Well I guess even you deserve a second chance"
Best course of action is everyone but Charlie already knowing and assuming Charlie knew too.
Why does Charlie hide her cute horns?
Like all her childhood pics in both the pilot and actual show she’s got her horns out on display, but now she hides them and they only start emerging when she’s mad.
>Alastor
>White Alastor
>TV Head Alastor
>Snake Alastor
>Green Alastor
Viv's character designs continue to prove their variety.
NTR soon.
Disgusting Latrino wog/jew/Armenian nose.
Of all the characterizations they could've gave Vaggie, her being pissed because Emily is being friendly with Charlie is the worst decision they could've made. Especially since it goes no where. Charlie and Emily literally go and have ice cream and harass koala's later on and Vaggie doesn't care anymore.
Or maybe it shows that Vaggie got jealous for a moment, but is emotionally intelligent enough to know that her partner isn't going to cheat on her and that she has no right to stop her from hanging out with other people.
Is the concept of behaving like an adult so foreign to you that you think it justifies your melty?
>Is the concept of behaving like an adult so foreign to you that you think it justifies your melty?
Behaving like an adult would it not bothering her in the first place because someone is touching her girlfriend in a non-threatening manner. And if it was not going to matter, then it shouldn't even exist. It's there for like a second and doesn't come up again. What's the point?
>Behaving like an adult would it not bothering her in the first place because someone is touching her girlfriend in a non-threatening manner.
Everyone has intrusive thoughts, moron.
>Everyone has intrusive thoughts, moron.
Listen, dumbass. I get these characters are very important to you or whatever, but all of this happens in the exact same episode with no build up to it at all. To avoid going back and forth, I'll just say it's shitty writing since no one seems to know what the hell they want to do with Vaggie in the first place other than be Charlie's girlfriend.
You're just hyperfocusing on an unimportant detail. Typical Cinemaphile autism. Your every post about it has been shitty writing. Be quiet and sit down.
>as of now there’s no reason for the angel revelation to fricking matter. why would charlie give a shit?
>why would someone be upset about being deceived by their partner?
Is it just asperger night on Cinemaphile and nobody told me?
she isn’t deceiving her actively. sure it’s a lie of omission, but that isn’t of the same emotional magnitude that actively lying and eventually coming to care for someone brings about. their relationship as it stands isn’t based on falsehood- she was found betrayed by the angels after showing compassion to a demon. she’s already reformed at that point. at most she has to say “sorry I didn’t tell you”. if it was the case that she actively sook charlie out with the intention of ratting on her, and eventually came to care for her, you’ve got a more interesting dynamic. that’s going to engender genuine mistrust
*sought
my brain broke
Regardless of your personal feelings on it, this is what's happening in the story right now. It was a huge focal point of the episode and even Vaggie clearly registers how much it's going to hurt Charlie. It's going to be a central issue in the next episode and you're going to be mad about it the entire time. Enjoy.
you take my point though. it feels a bit artificial.
But of course we have to force some relationship drama. It's a pretty basic plot element that's been reused loads of times across any given medium.
She won't have a problem with the sins. She'll have a problem with the fact that her partner didn't trust her enough to tell her. Mark my words. This story beat's so overdone the well's run dry.
As far as I can tell, they never spend anytime together in the show to actual tell each other things.
Its just bad story writing, a conflict that overall shouldn't particularly matter in the grand scheme of things. Especially since it isn't Charlie's character to care about previous sins. Maybe this is different since Vaggie is responsible for essentially permanently killing them. It doesn't help that we have hardly seen the two actually do anything together that would be seen a relationship stuff. Especially after what happened with HB where the StolasXBlitz shit took over and generally made the show worse.
>You're just hyperfocusing on an unimportant detail. Typical Cinemaphile autism. Your every post about it has been shitty writing. Be quiet and sit down.
It's almost bed time anon go lay your cranky ass down before your parents walk in on you pissing your pants.
the whole conflict is dumb. here’s how a remotely smart writer would have done it
>vaggie was an angel sent to spy on charlie
there. now you have a genuine conflict. as of now there’s no reason for the angel revelation to fricking matter. why would charlie give a shit? sure she used to kill sinners but clearly she’s reformed and on charlie’s side now. there’s no duplicity. if she was actively sent to her instead of forming a natural bond there would be a genuine reason for character conflict
Having Vaggie pose as a spy to keep an eye on who and what regions the Angels should focus on during exterminations would've been a good twist if the time or patience to build up on a conflict like that.
Charlie deserves Emily. She's half Seraphim anyways.
My question is how/why luci became fallen. Did they just vote and he left? Even without going full transformation Luci has bigger wingspan than the other gays. He should have just been able to veto.
Viv should just embrace her terf nature and introduce a het ship for vegana
Yknow for a place that gets ransacked yearly, Hell looks so developed and modern. Why doesn't it look more like a bombed out war torn place? It should have some ravage and age to it.
Because a significant enough portion can generate matter.
Like fix shit with magic?
Yes. Just look at how Alastor changes the hotel in the pilot. Or the room where he eats, ect. ect. This is not the material realm. Only losers have to obey the laws of reality strictly. Pooooooor oooold Nifty.
Your not meant to just touch Koala's unless your an actual handler and have certain vaccines because they can give you Chlamydia
Koala's and Panda just have the worst luck of all the mammal sexually. Right after Female ducks.
confirmed Adam's redemption arc is Charlie and Adam bonding over their std's
I noticed this. Viv doesn’t like Vox and Val and their relationship is absolutely awful. Viv hates Stella and her brother, so their relationships between themselves and others is absolutely awful.
Viv likes Fizz and Ozzie, and their relationship is good (in her view).
Viv likes Adam and Lute and their relationship is oddly cute and well-balanced.
Thus, meaning. Vox and Val are the kind of characters Vivzie plans to kill off with no care for them whatsoever. So one of them is planned to be killed off in this season.
See, this is why I never liked his art. Just the cartoon heads plapped ontop of adult bodies, it looks so weird.
And the writing, god, its so cringe. Also implied snuff in the last pic?
But the guy draws good HH art, is miles above this older art skill wise it seems, and the draws are funny and feel in character.
That is why I could not habeeb it was the same artist. Its like night and day different.
>Pentious gets redeemed.
>Turns out Emily has a sinner kink.
>They get married and have 3 children.
NOOOOOOOOO
EMILY IS FOR CHARLIE ONLY
I think its simple, She's using season 1 to frontload literally ALL of the worldbuilding and introduce ALL of the characters. And leave whatever BIG SHIT she wants to do with all these introduced elements and characters for later seasons
I think its basically confirmed at this point that Season 1 will end with them somehow defeating/killing/fending off Lute and Adam and getting over the initial-antagonist/foil to the main cast, And the Hotel and Charlie's 'redemption project' being accepted and formalised by heaven - Or something to that effect.
So then Season 2 and potentially onwards will open with them actually trying to get people redeemed, And during that process 'whatever' faux-Lilith/Root/Eve/something-not-spoiled-yet/etc ACTUAL threat which is worse then Adam and Lute will be revealed and then the actual BIG SHIT will start happening.
>Show's big final battle has the forces of Heaven and Hell fight side by side to take down a massive threat to both of them
I love this type of thing and hope it happens.
I think season 1 will have a reveal of one of the Vees (Vox) being the one controlling Adam and the angels under the helmets, so the goal is about turning them off for good and killing Vox, whom tricked the overlords into walking into his death trap.
And this would be used to foreshadow that Eve is a puppet of evil.
>nudie
>amy yalking like a five year old
>diapers
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuck
I'm on the Charmely ship now
(You) end up working at the Hazbin Hotel.
What would your job be?
In my fantasy? Shadow Alastor and try to become some sort of voluntary evil minion to him.
Reality? I actually have a provision of alcohol license, So legally i can be behind a bar, Even if i can't actually mix drinks, So i guess i'd just help Husk clean glasses or mop shit up back there.
>long hair Alastor
>hair tied back Alastor
I didn't know I wanted this... no...
Mail Room Administrator
Maintenance probably.
I liked your art, But you couldn't just be normal could you? You had to be a paedogay, for fricks sake go away
Child rape and murder is hot. It’s just a drawing. Calm down christgay
Mimzy jealous of Charlie getting sexual attention from Alastor appears to be the case
Alastor isn't giving anyone sexual attention, Even in fanfics i read where they stop Alastor being 'Aromantic', I actually find it much cuter when he's sex-shy and just wants to cuddle.
Big agree
Even ignoring the aromantic shit he wouldn't be a bawd or out to have sex with just anyone just for the sake of it
It's a privilege to get him to frick you and he knows it but deep down it's also a matter of intimacy for him
Alastor wiener is not given it has to be earned
So Emily is dating Molly or twitter is lying to me?
Lucifer and Charlie need to be having wholesome daddy-daughter sex NOW
Those are some cursed fricking trips.
trips of truth
"Your daughter calls me daddy too~"
did they ever establish what is up with Alastor's shadow
Its part of him and acts out his real desires. I love it, I want Alastor to dick down Charlie and force Vaggie and Lucifer to watch!
Wow really? I wish they explained this in the show because I missed this entirely somehow so I'd been wondering for a while
Threesome with Alastor and his shadow....
Anon are you me?
My favorite sibling incest is brother/sister but especially twincest
>Threesome with Alastor and his shadow....
He really really needs to breed Charlie!
>"Your daughter calls me daddy too~"
The truth is, Alastor didn't say that, But he might as well have.
I don't care about Vivs 'AroAce' shit or how he and Lucifer were rap-battling over 'whose the better dad' or some dumb shit
There is no universe, Where a man saying to a women around similar age to himself, While putting hands on her [i.e. On her cheek to which she cooed at him], In front of her father, That 'she can call him dad' - Can be interpreted as literally anything else but a sexually suggestive comment / lewd suggestion. And an attempt to shame the fathers honour through the idea of their daughter eloping with someone he disapproves of.
Right? It was glorious because Lucifer hates him touching his daughter and Alastor enjoys getting on his nerves by hinting at fricking her.
>But he might as well have
not really, that whole bit was pretty tame. Just felt like radio demon was trying to edge lucifer on to the point where he HAD to commit to helping her otherwise he'd lose the battle of who supported charlie the most.. just feels like you're projecting onto the scene.. radio demon is old as frick, he's from like the 60's or 70's flapper era, charlies like a teenager
>he's from like the 60's or 70's flapper era, charlies like a teenager
Yeah but im pretty sure in the Vivzieverse, Sinners just lock at whatever age they were when they die.
So if Charlie's like 200 years old [Which lets just say translates to 20 biological human years], Then their around a similar biological age.
I heard some anon say they think he's just in cahoots with Lilith and made some sort of deal to help Charlie, and getting Lucifer worked up enough that he'd agree to help Charlie works in his favor I guess. But if you just want to ship characters I can respect that too.
I realized my mistake after posting, I just didn't put that much thought into it. All I meant to say was "he's old" as far as human timeline goes
NTA, But Alastor is actually in his early 30s iirc, But he definitely isn't in his 60s or 70s
Al is from the '20s, at least. He did mention the great depression in the pilot as if he was a witness to it.
>the 60's or 70's flapper era
Please tell me you're not American. That's literally the only way I can forgive you for not knowing what a fricking flapper is.
I literally just corrected someone saying Alastor was from the 50s today. Do Zoomers just throw everything before the turn of the century into a "ye olde times" category?
I think he was meaning Mimzy is the flapper and is in her 60s/70s
That'd still be wrong! She'd be well over 100 years old.
Alastor was like a bad boy seducing Charlie against her father's warnings. That's what the whole scene felt like.
Which characters in this are demons and which are damned souls? I just wondered if maybe the reason that charlie and lucifer etc aren’t horribly debauched is because really they are divine beings that don’t really feel the impulse to sin, at least not physically, only intellectually, whereas the former mortals are imbibed with whatever licentious impulses their bodies gave them on earth.
They are both angels
You have a link to the full thing? I haven't seen this anywhere
I've only grown to appreciate incest pairings more as an adult. As a teen they disgusted me lol
https://files.catbox.moe/xubx8l.jpg
thank you!
most fitting trips possible
I've never liked parent/child incest before in my life until right now
Thanks I guess
Yes
I remember some moron was b***hing about the music last week.
There's no denying how fantastic this week's songs were.
Imagine having the perfect daughterfu.
I remember someone saying the show was like "a disney musical show but with bad words" but... What's so wrong about that, really? I'm a sucker for a cute whimsical musical now and again.
It's the sort of music you'd see in a Broadway show, especially the argumentative ones like "Respectless" and "Why are you gay, SARAH?"
Mimzy was also the sort of thing you'd see in a Broadway show.
Yeah, but she ruined the song by just bursting in and taking it over. Granted, I wasn't a fan of the second half moving away from the first's upbeat electro-swing, so it's not solely on her.
>I'm a sucker for a cute whimsical musical now and again.
Maybe watch Centaur World. It mogs the frick out of Hazbin
More than Anything was a solid 8/10 for me. Hell's Greatest Dad was a 10/10 first half, then fell off second half hard (even harder when Mimsy fricking RUINED it). Welcome to Heaven was... okay. 5/10 or 6/10 at best. You Didn't Know was 9/10, 10/10 when the Hell is Forever reprise came out
It's Lute and Adam's part that make it 10/10
Honestly, you're right, I'm doing it a disservice by only thinking of the last part. It jumps to a 10/10 once Lute starts.
Adam and Lute started out as my least favorite because I thought it was lazy to write off the angels as these evil dude-bros, but they've really grown on me as these butthole elitist that are basically treated like blunt attack dogs left to do with Hell what they will as long as the rest of Heaven doesn't have to hear about it. "Did you forget that Hell is forever?" was the best part of the episode's song by far.
Also Lute without her mask makes me feel things.
She's so fricking hot
She’s taken
The music still sucks, but good for you that you like them, anon?
The music is undeniably the best thing about the show. Now, the issue is that everything else is woefully undercooked.
On a scale of one to ten how incest-y are they?
They want each other more than anything!
Very
Like a -3.
I guess when you're still young and in-love with your own dick, you can't fathom a relationship that's more important or beautiful than a sexual one. Grow up sooner rather than later.
I am literally a girl
The logic still applies you fricking perv.
Like a -3.
I guess when you're still young and in-love with your own vegana, you can't fathom a relationship that's more important or beautiful than a sexual one. Grow up sooner rather than later.
>old man growing impotent thinks everybpdy got a limp dick too
>impotent
Tell that to your grandma. Almost fricked feeling back into her legs, sonny.
>almost
impotent dick
Your mother's fat ass did a lot of damage on her way out. Cut me some slack.
I don't experience pleasure from music so the two songs per episode are getting pretty grating. Just fricking say the lines, there's nothing even poetic about what they're singing about half the time, they're just sing-talking for most of it.
No soul
>I don't experience pleasure from music
It's one of the few things that makes me feel anything. I'm not entirely sure about us sometimes. Music is the one thing I am absolutely positive that we got right. It's so weird too, because you don't even have to do anything complex to change the feel of a song.
>More than anything.
Starts out with Lucifer singing over a guitar, has an empty, melancholic feel to it. Charlie's part starts and the guitar is replaced with a water droplet beat, it's mystic, pure, and deep. The change just scratches something in my brain.
It's been a major improvement and an important one. Last weeks songs did suck. Not him, never mentioned it but they did. They had frick all weight and they weren't enjoyable in a vacuum either. Filler as frick. I'd rather have less songs and more time for the plot to breathe honestly. Overuse of songs can and does happen in these types of shows.
does anyone have that picture that's a screenshot of alastor with the text along the lines of "if only you knew how dandy it could really be", or some sort of phrase with "dandy" in it?
>Everyone in heaven is hot.
What about Vaggie then?
She hot
She was hotter with the second eye to balance out her face and nose
Adam always wears the mask becuase without it, he cannot access the most nasty quirks of his personality.
He's actually hiding his power level. He's EVEN MORE based without it
All you people in your 20s thinking this show is perfect will grow up and realize this shit stinks and had plot holes akin to a slice of Swiss cheese.
jay sherman it stinks.gif
Stuff I want to see on the Vivzieverse:
-How are sports in hell? What sports are more popular?
-More lesbianism
-Angelic lore
-More oceania culture related stuff
>she thinks there any actual thought put into "lore" here
lol
lmao
I still cant agree with what Lute did to Vaggie, Lute should get snuffed out just for that betrayal to her own kind.
Lute is far more interesting than Vaggie though.
Lute is cuter though
>pov: you're Vaggie and you just got cucked
sauce?
@Im_Lotter
Starting to think the songs are the only good parts
...I realized it on the first episode.
About 3 minutes of the first episode was good, and it was the Adam solo
I feel like ep 6 shouldve happened with 2, and this shouldve been a retrial of sorts. That way we get a little more development of the angels earlier, Vaggie's conflict with being a former is introduced earlier as well, and then they can have some date episodes or something to humanize her. Its also kind of weird how they didn't expect the extermination to be brought up considering thats the reason Charlie is doing this all.
Alistar suddenly being humanized was also a bit weird, I never got the impression he did anything more than maintain the place for funsies, he hardly hangs out with Charlie enough for her to fawn like that.
The problem is the neck-breaking pace. We're barely seeing anything that happens, and nothing happens because we don't see it. There should be a string of sinners coming to the hotel in episodes that feel well episodic. That way we'd get development and interactions between the characters. But when you have Broadway darlings singing two times every episode, something taking that long isn't really feasible.
>Angel Dust character development? Off screen and through song
>Alastor starting to care about the Hotel? Offscreen
>Charlie's plans of redemption not working? Offscreen or out of focus
>Hell being a legitimate awful place beyond sinners being awful people? Not even mentioned
Bro what the frick is with that five month timeskip that was completely unearned because now we don't see any character development we're just told that it happened
>Vaggie being exorcist is le bad
>Alastor being a cannibal serial killer is le good
being a cannibal serial killer is le good
Yes? That's hot
So fricking true sister Alasis
>noooooooo anon, you cant point out the obvious moronation of the show. Muh morality is subjective. Awful people totally deserve a chance to shit heaven up.
I think Charlie is going to be more pissed that Vaggie didn't fricking tell her.
Charlie's entire mission is redemption. It'd be dumb for her to judge Vaggie when Vaggie gave up her wings, her eye, almost her life, to save a kid she was supposed to kill. She's obviously going to be hurt by the fact that Vaggie didn't think she could tell her about it all.
>Alastor being a cannibal serial killer is le good
He's basically a Hannibal Lecter figure, that doesn't make him good
Reedemed Niffty
She will make a good Angel
Why is the author hellbent in establishing Charlie has daddy issues? What's next, she hates her mother too?
If she hated her mom but likes her dad that would actually be an interesting change of pace for Viv
Charlie's future wife is a cute! CUTE!
Why is the show ignoring homosexualry is a sin?
everyone in hell is gay wym
Because to be redeemed and enter heaven you have to stop taking dick or muching carpet
Vaggie is a lesbian and she used to be an Angel so no
>universe doesn't even folow bible rules
Why even bother...
That would be really hard to write and probably quite restricting. Think about tolkien, the poor man wasn’t even writing about the real world and he still bent over backward to try and make eru theologically consistent with his catholicism. The show is really it’s own thing just using christian aesthetics and vague early 2010s r/atheism talking points mixed with tumblr, neopets, deviantart, youtube anime AMV and furaffinity visuals
Well, it IS supposed to be hard to enter heaven. Perhaps that could have even been a theme of the story, to loosen these rules a bit too.
yes but angels are portrayed as hypocritical, cynical dicks, instead of beings of pure love and divine intellect. there’s no moral objectivity at that point, hell and heaven become arbitrary spaces and in no way are a spiritual reflection of the people in them. you might as well have the show about aristocrats upstairs in the manor and their servants downstairs. it’s an entirely social and political dynamic, not a moral one.
That's what I said: why eve bother. Should have made the show about what you said, aristocrats and stuff
because these people can only understand reality through politics. heaven and hell aren’t some sort of metaphysical speculation on humanity for them, they’re just competing teams vying for power. one thing modern fiction really fails to grasp is the divide between character complexity and moral complexity. morality can be utterly binary, but people can oscillate from one pole to the other or inhabit different moral planes in different parts of their life. to bring up tolkien again, gollum is sort of like that. he’s a victim of evil more than an evil actor. there’s no doubt as to what good and evil are, but we can find pity for individuals, who often find themselves torn between the two. stuff like this is the opposite, where characters are either super nice or c**ts, and morality is allegedly grey though in practice it really isn’t- whatever code of conduct the creator approves of is moral. if it seems unimaginative and not intellectually engaging it’s because it is.
You're right. Take for example Angel Dust who we're supposed to believe is getting redeemed but the only "bad thing" we've seen him do is have a lot of sex with guys, which I'm pretty sure the author doesn't disapprove of anyway.
and he’s basically forced into it
Angels dont play by our rules thats why. They are as Castiel puts it
"A soldier of the lord"
She only became a lesbo because she got dicked by the Dickmaster and knew that no dick could possibly compete, so she opted for Adam's dick to be the last one she ever had.
Sauce?
https://www.tumblr.com/d4gm4rs/740605439884001280/mm-yeah?source=share
damn why did viv choose the wrong lesbian couples.
We get wholesome yuri with emily/charlier
Then hatefricking of vaggie/lute with NTR adam to finsh the job
Because it isn't in this universe, its more reveling in sexual activities.
Now that's convenient. Easy to redeem people that way
Yeah, itll be easy for a permavirgin like you to get into heaven I guess. Take pride!
Seethe. The show is garbage.
Did you miss this line?
I interpreted that more as 'demon/angel love is vile/blasphemous' but yeah, it could be taken that way too.
It's always nice to meet women into fa/dau. Do you have sexual thoughts about your own father, or are you actively engaged in a sexual relationship with him right now?
>It's always nice to meet women into fa/dau. Do you have sexual thoughts about your own father, or are you actively engaged in a sexual relationship with him right now?
Not that femanon, but my father is dead.
I actually usually don't like parent/child I'm more of a sibcest type of gal. I'm also an only child. Perhaps all those factors are correlated to my tastes lol
>I'm more of a sibcest type of gal.
Tell me more. Are you more excited by the idea of a brother or sister? Older or younger?
I don't think about having any siblings irl. I usually like brother/sister twincest ships best, I used to like older brothers but have grown to appreciate yandere/clingy younger brothers as well.
AYYYY my man
>also liking yanderes
>also has had a thing for older brothers
>and younger brothers (shota stacey)
>blessed trips
Anon you're literally me down to the dead dad
did he die when you were around 12 too?
In a weird way it makes me happy to know you exist
No mine died when I was 18 turning 19
Feel free to msg me on my throwaway email if u wanna talk more sibcest: [email protected]
Sure anon, I sent you a line from my burner as well!
>That snoze on Vaggie
Ruins what otherwise can be almost as cute of a face as Lute's, sad
So, why was Lucifer ignoring his own daughter for so long and inmediately answered her call to see the hotel as soon as she asked him? She could have literally asked him to see heaven's top brass the very first thing in the series and she didnt even really need Angel Dust to prove her point.
Its the opposite, Charlie seems to be ignoring/distancing herself from her father due to his bad vibes I guess. He also isn't actually willing to help her with her main goal, he doesn't view the denizens of hell as worthy of saving (not anymore), which rubs Charlie the wrong way since she holds onto the hope.
She literally needs him. She cannot redeem sinners on her own unless heaven agrees to take them in and Lucifer is her only way to get into contact with heaven. So her ignoring him is her being a moron.
I mean they spoke once a month or so, so it wasn't a complete break in communication. They just aren't on the same page when it comes to goals. Plus the show is rushed, so it makes everything happen faster than it should.
That and the fact that the only way for things to go Charlie's way is for the guy who SHOULD be still angry at her dad and by association her for being his daughter making that impossible but nope, don't have time for that despite easy drama points.
Angel Dust’s sister in heaven is also pretty cute.
Heaven only produces top tier qts.
Stop drawing Charlie getting dicked down by Lucifer its disgusting and sinful for a daughter to lust after her father
god dammit Cinemaphile...
It's hell here what do you expect
Go back to Xitter, anon.
I must have been scrolling fast because for a moment there I thought it was another shakeposter writing up another fricked up fanfiction, this time about Charlie's dad taking his daughter's virginity because he was paranoid about all the rapists in hell.
Don't give Shakeposter ideas. Besides he's not that fricking predictable anyways.
sir are you lost? do you know your way back to twitter?
The biblical story of lot disagrees.
>but they had good intentions they didnt know
They literally didnt wait 2 days.
Any porn of Sera yet?
would you?
I ain't gay, but if I was Cherri why wouldn't I? He's got two dicks and she's got two holes needing to be filled.
he’s a nerd b***h
Our boy has repeatedly stepped up to one of the most dangerous, homicidal demons in hell trying to throw hands. Sure, he loses every single time, but it takes balls.
Cherri was willing but he needed to man up and said it clearly.
>Will you do a sex with me?
He was clear on his intentions, but the reasoning behind why was lacking. She was getting mixed signals though since he opened with him being her nemesis. She might even have the same thought process he did when he first got to the hotel, that being "everyone's being nice to me, they must be plotting to kill me!"
is this guy an actual knight? like was he from the middle ages? on a related note, will we see any historical characters in hell? like giles de rais?
I think they said he was from 19th century London.
So I imagine his major sins back when he was alive was working orphans to death in factories or some shit.
Frick anon, I'm still trying to figure out why Cherry didn't take him up on that.
She must not realize what a catch Ser Pentious is.
No one in the rape room was complaining either so he really is a good frick
I'm going to ignore the faults of my favorite artists and exacerbate the ones I don't like, thank you.
Viv will prove herself to be a woman above all else and will make Charlie's mother the villain.
I think Viv hates moms. Like we joke about the daddy issues but even in the episode lusifer/alastar do care for Chariles.
Lillh is A.F.K, Sera could be evil, Stella because Evill, most other moms are died or missing.
There's is a trope in fiction that female writers like to write moms as villains and dads as the good guys. It psychological, Freud and stuff
I'm okay with that, I'm tired of the dads always being the bad guys, let us have some evil mommys.
>pearl clutching
>drama posting
>porn spamming
Yup. I'm on Cinemaphile.
I want to commission him wearing a shirt that says "Your daughter calls me Daddy too~"
what would his sinner form look like
deer duh
like an alastor kind or a more furgay kind
A boah.
If Charlie likes wieners based on that ex boyfriend photo, why wasnt she soaked when Val was coming on to her?
This is what it should have happened in that episode...
Wouldnt Val's BVLLs be rock hard at the thought of fricking DIVINE NEPHILIM PUSSY?
Could you get to heaven Cinemaphile? When was the last time you acted selflessly and stick it to the man without stealing?
Are kind NEETs allowed in heaven?
Why would I want to get to heaven? I want to dick down Charlie in hell and breed Vaggie.
I've stood to the side all my life, so I'll probably go straight to hell
I was fired from my last job for dry fasting during Lent.
you are surely one of the blessed
They thought I was one of the methed.
>acted selflessly
Every day I make sure the stray cats are fed
Yesterday I sprayed some ointment on one that has a wound
>stick it to the man
Stood up to myself for my landlords re: the stray cat situation and threatened to sue and they left me alone after that and legally they can't kick me out or not renew my lease because religious discrimination reasons
Plus they were buttholes to me and engaged in intimidation and lying early on which won't look good in front of a jury
>without stealing
Don't steal
>make it to heaven
I'd rather go to Hell it sounds a lot more fun and I would want to find my own version of Alastor
maybe, I go to chruch and definly normaly person.
Just don't have a major goal or dream.
you do have a dream it’s just not clear yet
it will be interesting if theres any tie ins in the next Helluva Boss episode
What's his chance at redemption?
Not gonna lie, I find this meme of her finding all these antagonists from other series being invited to the hotel to be endearing. Guess its because I just want the god damn hotel in Hazbin Hotel to be important.
There can be no forgiveness for those games or the porn they spawned.
Isn't he supposed to be a corpse inside? There can't be that much porn of him.
He's referring to the animatronics
There is the most porn of him, he's a tumblr sexyman
i can’t imagine people employ their imagination to the degree I do if they get off to this, unless they’re into freaky stuff. he would stink. acrid, stale, dry blood, the remnants of gory offal half rotten into polyester. let’s be real, probably shat himself when he died, so that’s there. it’s a cadaver in a moth eaten foam costume
I don't have anything to add but I agree with everything you said
I've never understood liking afton/springtrap or any of the fnaf animatronics
Maybe I was too old when it came out
but when I'm employing my imagination everything is there and I can't overlook that sort of thing
stay pure and go to heaven, anon
Knowing Afton's crimes, I could easily imagine him being an overlord
>The robotics/animatronic demon.
>Actually provides the hardware for the assembly of Fizz bots and the V.V.V.'s knock-off's
>Has also been pioneering more and more advanced A.I. technology from within hell.
>live for the rest of eternity in gay hell and presumably kill all the kids you want
I guess he won
Why's Alastor so annoyed with Lucifer anyway?
Maybe he just wanted to one-up the guy who has been mostly absent from Charlie's life and prevent him from parading all over his hard work for the hotel just because he's her father.
>Lucifer's genes suck so much his only child gets none of his angelic features or his short height
Even in breeding he gets cucked by the gene pool.
t. Not the Radio Demon.
The Morningstar bloodline could benefit from Radio Demon genetics added in.
Al hates not being the top dog in the room
I proudly clam the right to the first Charile/ Emily shipping art.
An honor to all future shipwars to come
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL THE HECKING SOULS OF RAPISTS, MURDERERS, PSYCHOS, WAR CRIMINALS NOOOOOO
Why does Viviane think I'd side against our trust-worthy ally and first man made in the image of God, Adam? Because if anyone from Hell is without sin, let them cast the first stone.
> Image of God
By the way, WHERE IS GOD IN THIS SETTING?
I was operating off the assumption that the intro exposition was bullshit propaganda in large part.
Yet, new information seems to indicate that its entirely genuine.
There is no God in this story, so heaven legitimately can be threatened by the legions of hell.
There is no God in this story, so the angel's don't know the criteria for salvation. (But no, that still doesn't make sense. If God didn't exist and instead it was the angels that created the earth and heaven how could they possibly not know the metaphysical laws that govern them?)
St. Peter guarding the pearly gate implies the existence of god since he wouldn't be there without being close to Jesus. Keenie had a problem with using the Lord's name in vain in HB, which wouldn't be an issue if there wasn't a God. The closest thing we get to direct confirmation of God's existence is the instagram story where Blitzo gets saved by a magic horse and claims he met God that day. A possible scenario is that the horse really is God and created Heaven and the angels, and then left. It set the rules for who goes to heaven and Hell and the angels aren't fully aware of what those rules are because none of them are aware of their own creator. Either that or God went on vacation and the angels fell victim to degeneracy in his absence, which I think is the most likely scenario. I hope there's a God, because the idea of Heaven being run by some deviantart OCs is just stupid.
Lute has nice hips.
Ye
Why are there no passable cosplays of Charlie? Its like opposite of arcane. Every single attempt is not even in the ballpark
hey man do you have a place where you post your stuff? i really like your art and i'd love seeing your old stuff
I'd love to pay you to draw my OC getting fricked by Alastor some time so I'll keep an eye out but take care of yourself first and thanks for your contributions I think the dialogue makes it sexier
ok but why is bird milf from imp show on the wall?
That's Sera.
oh
This was a good scene.
Distraught sleep deprived Charlie is funny.
The universe shape around a dichotomy? The nobility of hell are fallen angels?
>a weird snake dude and the designed butthole based on ex-boyfriends are the best characters
Would you look at that
>Well yeah I'm a terrible person for drawing cursed stuff, but that doesn't mean I can't draw non cursed stuff
dont worry i've drawn cursed stuff too
not toddlercon cursed, though. just frick chibis at that point instead if u wanna frick something small and cute
I can't believe they literally made the El paso shooter chud face into a canon imp
Charlie/Emily gay here, thank you again for the content. I will be humbly lurking your profile on baraag for more!
needing to see these gals sandwiched, who would be middle
Obviously Vaggie, her new role is to now please both Charlie and Emily!
So the show is supposed to be presenting Charlie in the wrong right?
She's defending murders, rapists, cannibals and murdering rapist cannibals, and saying just because they've "reformed" they deserve to go to heaven not understanding that punishment is a core part of justice right?
And she's supposed to be a hypocrite that doesn't give a shit about sinners permanently murdering imps and non-human hell denizens? But also heaven is corrupt, because they picked Angel as """redeemed""" even though he murdered the frick out of a group of shark guys just the other day.
Rhetorical question
Angel was redeemed between that episode and this one. It's been months in-universe. No we didn't get to see it. Enjoy.
Charlie just wants the exterminations to stop thats why she came with the hotel if the angel jerks believed sinners were nice they would frick off. Charlie has spent like centuries watching sinners gore hellborn as a sport.
>Metatron might appear to beat the shit out of Alastor in the finale
I can't stop thinking sinful thoughts about Lute. I at least just hope she's the one who exterminates me for it.
Don't worry, she'll get off while she spears you into oblivion, anon.
Just make sure to scream, screams of the damned are her favourite.
Does Viv not realize she made Alastor seem like Charlie's Sugar Daddy
chased by a fat bastard.
Don't let him catch you Charlie!
Is Adam even allowed to exterminate Charlie? I thought the whole point of the meeting was to stop Lucifer from getting pissed.
He just wants to bully her, I bet deep down he finds her cute and would bully her for fun for hours if he could.
Can Charlie even be exterminated? She's half angel
He can still kill everyone at the hotel.
No, said so in the first episode.
And I think hellborn are exempt too, but I doubt we'll see much of them in this series.
can't wait until charlie beats up adam in episode 8
TOTAL VAGGIE DEATH
>that fricking nose
I want to like vaggie's design... but its so bad.
Her making that face highlights the problem
I'm one of those sickos who likes a beak
Haha Alastor, you are breeding my daughter and producing demonic deer children
Sinners are still infertile
A note on the incorporation of the pentagram into Viv's depiction of Lucifer, because my autism demands it.
It's actually a symbol that was used in Christianity well before occultists adopted it, referring to the five wounds of Christ, and you can find it in a lot of old Euro cathedrals. You can find an inverted one as well, signifying the descent of the holy spirit on the congregation.
Viv was obviously meaning to use it in its occult/satanic context, in which inversion does invert the meaning. The 4 elements of matter, with the element of mind/spirit presiding over them. Occultists use the symbol to signify the pursuit of knowledge and higher ideals over the material world, while Satanists invert it to glorify carnality. Lucifer only uses the symbol obviously once, and it's inverted. It would make more sense for him, being a dreamer angel in pursuit of higher ideals, to not invert it.
Clearly God loves to give good things to his children.
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good.
His love endures forever.
2
Give thanks to the God of gods.
His love endures forever.
3
Give thanks to the Lord of lords:
His love endures forever.
Can he not endure forever with a person? His love endures forever it says right there.
How can his love endure forever yet he inflicts pain on his children eternally?
Did this show bring over the Reddit atheists or were they always here
There should have been a moment when Adam threatened to specifically target all the guests at the Hazbin Hotel
There was. In the sixth episode. Did you not watch the whole thing?
I didn't see that, I saw him threaten Charlie herself but not anything about her hotel
They literally said they would visit that hotel first.
Anon...
Why didn't they make Lute Eve, she already his right hand man and you can justify her being obsessed with killing demons as her felling responsible for them falling for greace and you have a villainous married duo
>Next episode, they crash at the place
>Its just them mocking them for their attempts and just being trollish buttholes for most of the episode
I want this...
Please let Adam and Lute survive the season finale. They are the best thing in the show.
god that was a tiring argument.
Post charlie and Lucifer please