Nobody is seething. There's literally no reason to allow foreign movies trying to disrupt your countries societies. Maybe the west should start engaging in that too maybe it would stop being such an immigrant/refugee infected shithole then.
>allow foreign movies trying to disrupt your countries societies.
because that's totally what WB wants to do right? destabilize a country no one can find on a map. some places really think they matter in the world.
There is literally a footage of it.
I think the Chinese damage control of this was that they were crying because were saying goodbye to their families. Nobody questioned the authenticity of that video afaik
people instinctivley know bad shit happens so you cant deny everything, you'd need to save your denials for shit you really dont want out so that the denial has more weight to it
chinese have called themselves "the middle kingdom" for thousands of years. they've always viewed themselves as the center of civilization surrounded by barbarians. why would they give a frick about the uncivilized vietnamese barbarians?
Because the last time China tried to invade Vietnam Charlie kicked there chink asses so hard they had to give up and scurry back home? This was after Vietnam had been devastated by the US bombing north Vietnam with the largest air campaign since WW2, and the whole exhaustion of the Vietnam war, yet the chinks couldn't do frickall against them
>Chinese >civilized
Pick one.
The fact that horrible accident after horrible accident is common there tells you that they're a bunch of sub-human morons.
Don't know about him but I find it hilarious. I bet they still have parades and shit to celebrate when the US left. Do you think China would be fricking with them that hard if there was a couple of US air bases and navy bases there?
>starting an international incident with the most insecure world power of all time over some fishing boats
Like you just know those chink pussies would immediately start bawwing about "anti-han discrimination" or whatever
You’re a fricking moron. After they kicked the shit out of the American army they went into Cambodia and kicked the shit out of the Communist Khmer Rogue, and then once they finished that they kicked the shit out of Communist China. Viets are based.
and Vietnam war casualties are pretty even when you count ARVN casualties, who actually did a vast majority of the fighting. But of course this a little fact Americans like to pretend to forget about before going on to make outrageous claims about the casualty figures as if GIs were all John Rambos mowing down hundreds and hundreds of guys on their own.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>who actually did a vast majority of the fighting
uhmmmm... source?
10 months ago
Anonymous
uuuh the fact that they had been fighting since before the US was involved and for 6 years after the US ceased major operations in Vietnam in 69~, the fact that they committed far more men than the US to the war effort. The fact that ever offensive in North Vietnam like Operation Lam Son 719 was entirely fought by ARVN? Are you insane? How can you possibly question this statement?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't see any data that would prove your statement, neither about their involvement nor "small" casualties, pal.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Vietnams casualties compared to the US are pretty even when you add non-us casualties to the US casualties
Lmao okay?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Hey dumb frick. If you're going to use the totality of NVA losses, which the ARVN is responsible for inflicting a large bulk of, and then not including the ARVN loss figures in your own losses, you kinda see how you're painting a absolutely moronic inaccurate picture? Or are you just low IQ?
What the frick are you trying to imply? Everyone recognizes that Germany was kicking the shit out of the USSR, its just the Soviets threw endless fricking bodies at them and eventually overwhelmed them. Plus Germany fighting on two fronts.
Is this a shitpost? That can't be the reason it was banned? Who the frick in Vietnam is thinking that the coked out Hollywood frickheads put this in deliberately and that this wasn't just a coincidence.
>“We do not grant a license for the American movie ‘Barbie’ to release in Vietnam because it contains the offending image of the nine-dash line,” said the state-run Tuoi Tre newspaper, also citing Vi Kien Thanh.
I only count lines? Well, anyways frick Hollywood for being Xi's b***h. Oh and frick John Xina, just because.
Kek, viets are turbo schizo. They see literal random lines on the wall as proof of China's imperialism.
Haha what is even meant to be China there
The part with the dashes on the right. The territorial dispute is even called "The 9 Dash Line". I'd be one hell of a fricking coincidence to have exactly 9 dashes coming from southern Asia; this is really clearly pandering to China, guys.
I hate Chinese as the next guy but this is really reaching. It's a nonsense map made for nonsense Barbie world. You have dashed lines all over the place there. It means nothing
Communist Vietnam doesn't ban Barbie because of it being one of the biggest Capitalist and western Imperialist symbols but because of muh heckin' China.
This is not the first time movies being banned because of the China map related. Dozen was banned before, John Wick 4 was banned because of Donnie Yen. NaM and China Gotv are the same, they fricking ban everything.
Remember when Vietnam sent one of their noodle vendors to prison for 5 years because he was impersonating Salt Bae and they thought he was making fun of how one of their government officials went to Salt Bae's restaurant and spent $5k on a steak, which was more than what the average Vietnamese day labourer made in a year?
>Middle East is islands >Europe is taking a trip to Greenland >Madagascar is connected to Africa
Yeah, they're definitely schizo or very touchy b***hes, arguably both.
To be fair, those dashes are a really loud dog whistle. It's like if you drew a map which looked vaguely like the Mediterranean and put crops on all the other countries but gold in the eastern section, everyone knows you're not signalling Palestinians live here with that.
is taking a trip to Greenland
It's technically Danish.
is connected to Africa
That's not a good sign either. Madagascar being connected to Lemuria is one of those ancient aliens lost civilization racist things
Those two are much quieter dogwhistles, but putting dashes anywhere vaguely near Asia is a screaming one. A lot of movies don't and let China pencil in their own ones, but some movies do it because they're desperate to get into the market.
Interesting this could be interpreted as maps are childish due to the drawing style, or the fact the dashs off asia lead to no where/encompass nothing.
I guarantee it is not a coincidence. They're buying goodwill in China to make sure their movie doesn't get banned there. Vietnam is an acceptable sacrifice
>coked out hollywood frickheads put this in deliberately
Of course they did. China is the biggest market for them, they want to appease chinks as much as possible thinking that it will get them a billion of them wanting to watch their movie.
>nooo it's not calculated, they just throw these things together!!
Every. Single. Object. Is product placement. All of them.
You think they're going to overlook a politically important map design? Remember, all props are also generally made for the project with tentpoles like this, way less scavenge
You're under estimate the stupidity of a country. China got mad at Monster Hunter movie because of a lame pun like "Chi-knees" and somehow getting that confused with some racist song about dirty knees or something.
America nuked Japan and then they were playing baseball and dressing like American greasers and pop stars a few years later.
The Vietnam War was 50 years ago and the vast majority of Vietnamese don't remember it.
Japan recovered a lot better to be fair. We could have really fricked Japan over, but we didn't. Also WW2 was different than Korea and Vietnam. It had a clearly defined ending. Almost every country in WW2 recovered pretty well all things considered.
>We could have really fricked Japan over, but we didn't.
bruh
10 months ago
Anonymous
It could have been worse. Way way way worse. I'm speaking in regards to post war as well. If you told the WW2 generation in 1945 that Japan would be insanely popular in 40 years and stay that way for about 20 years, they would not have believed you.
To go from we fire bombed the shit out of you and capped it off with 2 nukes to Hondas and Toyotas, Sony Walkman, and video games is impressive. We didn't frick Japan after the war. We could have easily have forced them into a position where they would be poor and a shitty place, but we didn't do that.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>We didn't frick Japan after the war. We could have easily have forced them into a position where they would be poor and a shitty place, but we didn't do that.
America did force Americanism on their occupied territories though. Korea and Japan didn't wind up playing baseball, obsessed with consumerist junk, or making violent hentai without American involvement. Without the early 90s collapse in Asian markets engineered by the west, the west would be just as paranoid as they were in the 80s that those countries they lent their social model to seemed to be outcompeting them on home and foreign turf.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Americanism is gay, but the alternative is South American treatment. The US is slowly sliding. I don't if China will rise or some other country, but the US will eventually "collapse" as a super power. We probably won't fall too far, but we won't be number 1 eventually. I don't know when that will happen, but it will happen. 247 years with only the civil war (which came before we became a super power) is a pretty good run.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>the alternative is South American treatment. T
There are other alternatives available. >we won't be number 1 eventually
You need to talk to some expats. This is a view you can only really hold while deep in Americanism, and consequently the places that think it tend to amount to i) The US and ii) absolute shit hole countries where seeing a picture of a can of soup is a miracle.
It's kind of NK tier in its propaganda effects on the population because they really have no external access.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I should have said was. It already happened.
10 months ago
Anonymous
More importantly for this thread, a clear sign it already happened is that in the cold war, this same argument would see US movies making Taiwan and HK huge on a map and highlighting their industrial technologies, just like when UK had an empire and liked maps which showed UK territories in red and oceans and other countries in white.
10 months ago
Anonymous
How? The US isn't going to be a super power forever. It may take 300 years, but eventually the US fade and some other place will rise. Not that the US will collapse to a wasteland, just that it won't be like it was. Nothing lasts forever. Most European countries were not super powers until the 1400-1500s. Before that they were only regionally relevant. The US is somewhat like a continuation of the British Empire. It's why everyone b***hes about colonialism. Colonialism was recent in history. The way people talk you would think that the British Empire always existed. No one except European people gives a shit about pre colonialism Europe. Tons of people are ignorant of pre colonialism Europe. They have no idea that the Romans occupied England, that the French invaded. England doesn't get mentioned in history class until like 900 AD. There's also not a lot of information about what people were doing back then.
10 months ago
Anonymous
If you sub in NK where you say America, you'll see why other countries don't teach their kids that, because it holds as well. They even have this thing where they believe they were competing with China to be the true origin of superpowers in the region, much like how you view your not being taught history of superpowers before 1400 makes you believe that there was only regional relevancy of European city states and nation before that. I mean, the Reconquista is at the end of a couple centuries of warfare with an empire that controls the gold price for Africa, the near East and Europe at the time. But of course that is not relevant, because it gives the US a sense of scale which diminishes its imperial expectations.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I was mainly talking about Northern Europe that's why i said most European countries. Obviously there were players in the world in Europe, but they weren't as impactful as the Romans. The Norse probably did the most externally. Those just North of the Romans were giving them trouble, but it's not like they were on the level of the Romans in terms of being an empire.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>no but in my version there's a direct link to vikings without them having to go through France >also when I say northern Europe I don't mean we learnt anything about the Swedish empire
m8 you were taught propaganda, not history. Your country has zero investment in you knowing how many empires invaded the Polish plain, just like it has zero investment in you knowing what life is like in other countries.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Were they invading places on the other side of the world. Were they trading with people on the other side of the world. What are you not understanding. Sweden invading Poland is regional. The standards for what constitutes a super power were lower. The Roman Empire was more like the US now. Their reach was farther than Sweden or Poland at that time.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>No we're Romans!
You really don't see how that's propaganda used by every try hard, including the Nazis with their thousand year Reich of ten years?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Are you fricking schizo dude. Super powers in the world constantly rise and fall. The Roman Empire was one, then it fell. The US is one right now and eventually it will fall. There's been many and there are several right now. They all constantly rise and fall though.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>No but we really are Romans! My propagandist teacher told me so, and unlike the NK propagandist teachers it's really true because it happened to ME!
Sure buddy, you're the new Rome and that isn't just something Americans believe
10 months ago
Anonymous
We are a superpower. If you can't see that then you're a moron. If you choose to ignore it then you're just seething. American influence is fricking everywhere. Doesn't mean it's good, but you're delusional to deny it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>If you don't understand nk is a superpower then you have not seen the glorious leader >It doesn't matter our facts don't check out those are irrelevant to my feeling like I belong to a superpower
Sure buddy
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're actually schizo dude.
You're just going to ignore the post WW2 era all the up to the modern day. Get help dude or get over it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>No don't make me experience the US from an external perspective
You don't have to buddy, just like NK citizens never have to learn the South is not starving and running out rice.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're confusing what a superpower is. North Korea barely influences the outside world other than having nukes. You're actually fricking stupid or schizo. We wage stupid wars uncontested. Everyone in the West mostly goes along with our shit. We blatantly disregard the UN. We have a lot of cultural influence and impact in the world. I don't like the US, but to act like the US is equivalent of North Korea or some place that doesn't have a sphere of influence that spans the whole globe. You can find someone in every corner of the world who knows what Coca Cola is. You're fricking insane or butthurt.
10 months ago
Anonymous
These are all things which NK does. They're also things that NK citizens believe show their superpowers.
10 months ago
Anonymous
yes, North Korea wages wars on the other side of the globe, thank you for contributing
10 months ago
Anonymous
What is a superpower then. Tell me how the US isn't one.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Gurantee if you arent in the US your country kowtows to the US. But sure they arent a super power
10 months ago
Anonymous
>in a thread about the US kowtowing to a communist nation's expansionist fantasy >I bet everyone kowtows to the US
Not to be a party pooper, but if the US has everyone bowing to them, why does the US go out of their way to please China with a fantasy map? Countries within missile range not kowtowing to them while the US does isn't really helping this idea that the US is some big bad.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Are you OK dude
10 months ago
Anonymous
>why does the US go out of their way to please China with a fantasy map
The US isn't doing this, eurohomosexual. Hollywood is doing this in order to sell more tickets/merchandise in China, which (for the moment, anyway) is still a major consumer market.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>But we're sucking them off for money not out of fear
Uhuh, not seeing how this makes you the top in the gay relationship
10 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession. Nice projection there, by the way - just get back from a pride march?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Enjoy sucking off China in a totally not kowtowing not bottoming way I guess?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit, you're obsessed with gay sex. Come out of the closet already, homosexual. Guaranteed everybody already knows you're a butt pirate.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Also going to just ignore the US constantly pissing in Chinas mouth over Taiwan? Lmao
Oh no, anon thinks I'm gay because I pointed out the US is sucking China's dick. Maybe don't suck dick in public if you don't want people to think you're open to public wiener gobbling.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why the frick did you reply to me homosexual? I didnt say shit about your homosexualry. Im asking why China lets the US constantly piss in their mouth over Taiwan.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>There's nothing gay about getting a top to piss in your mouth
anon that is super gay
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao thats what I thought pathetic fricking bug. When are you guys taking Taiwan by force again?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Obsessed? Check.
10 months ago
Anonymous
People aren't staring because they're obsessed with you, homosexual, they're staring because you're publicly sucking wiener and asking for your dommy gay daddy to wash it down with piss and that is a spectacle
10 months ago
Anonymous
Wow, doubling down on the homosexualry. Seriously, when are you coming out of the closet?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Anon do you think that you sucking dick made everyone else gay?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Desperate projection continues, meanwhile everybody ITT 100% knows you're a homo.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>If I'm into ricedick and kowtowing to China to show my superpowers erryone else must be too
Not everyone is into sucking China's dick and balls like you are
10 months ago
Anonymous
Tripling down? How much lower can you go?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes brother i cant believe the US let China drive tanks to Taiwan how embarrassing
10 months ago
Anonymous
>i can't believe
You should after every apology about Hainan Island every time the US elects a new president.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes i know here in the USA we are rearry rearry scary about the grand PLA driving their tanks to taiwan (rightful china clay) in 2 more weeks
10 months ago
Anonymous
That seems excessIve when you can just let the president to apologize for questioning China's borders every jan-feb after an election and draw maps in movies how China likes them like normal
10 months ago
Anonymous
t seething tard
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes we are rearry rearry aware of PLA might we saw when that hag Nancy Perosi visit taiwan. That was last waning
10 months ago
Anonymous
How many times in the last year has the US provoked China over Taiwan? Follow up question. What was Chinas response to these provocations? I'll wait.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>apology about Hainan Island every time the US elects a new president
lel, revisionist insect moronation. It was a single incident, it happened over 20 years ago, and it resulted in a "letter of regret." Try again, chang.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>We only say sorry over the collision
No, the US says sorry for air space and naval "invasions" which are not invasions if you're not trusting China on borders every new president since. China actually invades US airspace and there is no apology.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Seriously, WTF are you trying to say? Your seething word salad is beyond bizarre.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I'm saying the US has one of these incidents with the Chinese at the start of every presidency this millennium, and the US always kowtows and apologizes and reaffirms China's authority on borders
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-10/china-u-s-warplanes-had-unsafe-encounter-in-south-china-sea
Even under presidents willing to start a trade war this kind of subservience happens.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Nonsense, although far better written.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>if I stick my head in the sand it goes away
It really doesn't bro
10 months ago
Anonymous
Ignoring nonsense isn't "sticking your head in the sand."
10 months ago
Anonymous
>the us is subservient to china because at the beginning of every presidency they apologize for some stupid shit >meanwhile the rest of the time they constantly provoke china and china does frick all but issue vague final warnings but they are totally subservient guys!
Lol
10 months ago
Anonymous
>America trying to say they never defaulted IT WAS A DELAY
Ok Ross love that Friends reunion for you
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao yes instead of apologizing their response was deflecting with "no no it was weather barroon"
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why hasnt China done anything about Taiwan? That doesnt count as China fellating the US
10 months ago
Anonymous
Doesn't China consider Taiwan to be China? I guess they're going to do about as much as the US does about Florida.
10 months ago
Anonymous
LOL China can "consider" whatever it wants. The reality is, Taiwan is a separate country. And if you boil it down, it's the legit Chinese government. Communists aren't people.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>implying chings are people in the first place
10 months ago
Anonymous
China can also drive tanks into Taiwan while the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US is there and arrest a bunch of politicians while the US apologizes for offending them for 9 months straight, and...
Oh, sorry. What was your point again?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>China can also drive tanks into Taiwan
10 months ago
Anonymous
>drive tanks into Taiwan while the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US is there and arrest a bunch of politicians
WTF i love china now?
10 months ago
Anonymous
taiwan is an island.....
10 months ago
Anonymous
10 months ago
Anonymous
>hollywood israelites=the us
Pretty sure the DOD recently told hollywood if they dont stop sucking chinese wiener the DOD wont work with them. >The US pleases China
Yeah. When is the next final warning over Taiwan coming from China again Mr.Xi?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>if they dont stop sucking chinese wiener the DOD wont work with them
So the department of defense is letting them suck Chinese wiener and that is a sign of strength? Wtf am I reading?
10 months ago
Anonymous
They are giving them a choice moron. I guess reading is hard through your slant bug eyes.
10 months ago
Anonymous
And they seem to be choosing to suck off a foreign power.
10 months ago
Anonymous
And? Who gives a frick? Gurantee the israelites will come crawling back
10 months ago
Anonymous
And? Who gives a frick? Gurantee the israelites will come crawling back
Jefferson was right. Merchants have no country.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Also going to just ignore the US constantly pissing in Chinas mouth over Taiwan? Lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
>don't mean we learnt anything about the Swedish empire
The most the US teach about the Dutch is New York was briefly New Amsterdam. The VOC is a non-entity to them. They're often genuinely surprised there was a slave trade anywhere else.
10 months ago
Anonymous
the US eduction system has plenty more holes in it than that.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Excluding the VOC from history is a pretty goddamn huge hole.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Anyone who isn't a complete moron knows slavery was more than the United States. Slavery still exists.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't buy it. They know about slavery but not the VOC? I doubt they even know about Brazilian slavery under the Portuguese. This seems like you're lying to yourself.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The specifics probably not, but anyone who isn't a complete moron knows that most slaves went to Brazil. Arabs had slaves. israelites owned slave ships. Africans had slaves. Romans had slaves. The Dutch East India Company. The Belgian Congo.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The American school system definitely teaches none of that. One of the main reasons it doesn't teach any of that is those Arabs you mentioned stole most of the US's navy and goods when the UK stopped being their escort past Africa. There's plenty of history that directly related to the US which cannot be taught in the US because it points out holes in the great American propaganda war on its own people.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Anyone who relies on school for the entirety of their education is a moron. Sadly most people do. Doesn't mean everyone does.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think you're being intellectually dishonest about Americans's view of history and understanding of global history. They aren't morons, but anon is right they're taught a very edited and pretty fanciful view of their role in world events.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's what i said. There's multiple reasons why everyone thinks Americans are morons. One of them is Americans relying on what they're taught. The US is heavily propagandized and does resemble North Korea, the difference being that the US has had a much larger impact globally. North Korea thinks they have worldwide relevance, the US actually does or did until recently. Other countries do too. China does. China is in Africa. To act like the US isn't globally significant, like that schizo poster, is delusional.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>US actually does or did until recently.
They really don't. They wage "wars" like the UK tried to take back Suez and have been doing so with the UK for decades as they try to convince their own people of their relevance. The World Police joke is literally two decades old. The only country they can really hold over a barrel at all is the UK, and that's because the US has a codependent relationship with them where they both tout their own relevancy when most of their relevance comes from SDR. It's really worth keeping in mind that a country with SDR was compared to Zimbabwe within the past 12 months to see the extent of the farcical claim to relevancy that can amount to.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit.... blind idiocy like this doesn't come easily. How long have you been huffing your own farts, anon? I'd guess for decades.
10 months ago
Anonymous
How so? The only things that would be fluffed up is our role in WW2 and possibly how we beat the British for our independence.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The absence of any knowledge about any other major power is a sign of propaganda too. Hence
>Can't prove your garbage theory >y-you are upset that I'm right!!
what a lazy Black person you are, pathetic lmao
thinking the Netherlands being a global superpower in the 17th Century is impossible.
10 months ago
Anonymous
possible or not, it clearly didn't happen, since the only argument you seem to have is crying about americans and nothing about netherland's alleged superpower status
you're talking about a country which had to flood themselves on a regular basis just to survive french invasions btw
10 months ago
Anonymous
>But they had to defend themselves against the French >Pls ignore the contemporaneous battles in US where french and English superpowers were duking it out, that might make it seem like the 18th century saw a new European power rising to imperial status >clearly didn't happen
kek, this sounds like you think Europe and its American colonies won't know about Napoleon
10 months ago
Anonymous
>still no argument >more whining about americans
you just can't help yourself lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
What fricking major super power isn't known about here? Possibly its because the Netherlands wasnt as big a super power as you pretend? Why propogandize the Netherlands super power status but not Rome, British Empire, Persian, etc?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because anon brought up the Netherlands as though it was a small country taking down an empire, when it was the dominant naval power regularly taking down other empires including some of those you listed. I'm not saying there weren't other superpowers in history. I'm saying acting like the Netherlands taking you down in the 17th Century was not the equivalent of the British rolling up on you in the 19th Century is either deeply disingenuous or patently ignorant of world events, and the latter is more common in Americans.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>as though it was a small country taking down an empire
it was a small country, it was also a welathy country but it never took down an ampire
sweden was never a fricking empire >it was the dominant naval power regularly taking down other empires
what are you fricking smoking, what empires did they "take down"? some literal Black folk in indonesia? some german meme state?
10 months ago
Anonymous
abhorrent moronic muttpost, actually reddit tier
10 months ago
Anonymous
>the Swedish empire
why bring up worthless meme states like this and pretend to be sophisticated at the same time lol? swedish """"""""""empire""""""""" was just sweden + estonia and their greatest achievment was genociding some germans for french money, only redditors think it was anything relevant
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Why would Riga be important
Yes, all that northern European history America learns really paid off here.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>>Why would Riga be important
excellent question actually, why?
it increased sviden's trade revenue by 13%? cool, it was still a shithole incapable of doing anything besides hiring mercs for french money and prolonging wars in central and eastern curope
hell, swedish """"empire"""" literally ended their invasion of denmark when netherlands sent their fleet on the Baltic and told swedes to stay down
you may argue if they were even fully independent, nice superpower homosexual
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Hey it took the Dutch to take them down
kek I love how you say this like the Netherlands wasn't holding their golden age at the time and dominating world trade.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>it took the Dutch to take them down
It took the Dutch barely threatening to lift a finger, to take them down. Doesn't sound all that good, does it? >their golden age at the time and dominating world trade
England was beating them regularly, but yes they were somewhat relevant at the time. Unlike sweden
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Doesn't sound all that good, does it?
It'd sound better if the Dutch didn't do the same thing to the English, the Spanish, the French, the Indians, the Indonesians, the South Africans, the African gold coast, and Syrians and South Americans.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>to the English, the Spanish, the French
they didn't lol >the South Africans
why would they do this to themselves? >the Indians, the Indonesians, the African gold coast, and Syrians and South Americans
yeah that sounds more like the IMPERIUM of SWEDEN's level
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Noooooo the Netherlands can't have been a superpower
Do you need to show us on the doll where history hurt you?
10 months ago
Anonymous
kek what are you even babbling about moron? i accept your concession i guess since you don't even know what you're replying to anymore
10 months ago
Anonymous
You seem really upset that the Netherlands was a superpower, and I guess it's because their trade influence at the time was exponentially greater than the US has.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>literally WE WUZing
Is this how yurocucks cope for being kicked out of Asia by a bunch of western larping manlets?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Can't prove your garbage theory >y-you are upset that I'm right!!
what a lazy Black person you are, pathetic lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
Netherlands was NEVER a superpower lmao
insane cope
10 months ago
Anonymous
>It took the Dutch barely threatening to lift a finger, to take them down. Doesn't sound all that good, does it
Yes, because the Dutch at the time were the empire on which the sun never set and the model for all future superpowers. Even if you're just a weeb you should know the Dutch global influence was incredibly strong because they're the only ones who got into Japan.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>DOOD THEY HAD SPICE TRADE OUTPOSTS IN INDONESIA >*gets raped by Vauban* >*loses two wars to England*
10 months ago
Anonymous
>The spice trade means nothing
lol I guess we can tell Europe they didn't need to conquer or discover anywhere for themselves and the wood from American colonies was pointless because we really didn't need globalised trade
10 months ago
Anonymous
>MUH SPICE WAS BETTER THAN WINNING WARS
10 months ago
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Thats an issue of technology though.
10 months ago
Anonymous
How? The US isn't going to be a super power forever. It may take 300 years, but eventually the US fade and some other place will rise. Not that the US will collapse to a wasteland, just that it won't be like it was. Nothing lasts forever. Most European countries were not super powers until the 1400-1500s. Before that they were only regionally relevant. The US is somewhat like a continuation of the British Empire. It's why everyone b***hes about colonialism. Colonialism was recent in history. The way people talk you would think that the British Empire always existed. No one except European people gives a shit about pre colonialism Europe. Tons of people are ignorant of pre colonialism Europe. They have no idea that the Romans occupied England, that the French invaded. England doesn't get mentioned in history class until like 900 AD. There's also not a lot of information about what people were doing back then.
Yeah i dont think so. Im pretty sure globalism will be completely take over before the US collapses and we all know that will just be USA 2.0
10 months ago
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>Without the early 90s collapse in Asian markets engineered by the west,
That's not a thing, actually. You're apparently some /misc/tard type referring obliquely to the baht collapse, something which was in fact in no way engineered by anyone outside Thailand and was contained within 18 months, and also had little impact outside Thailand or anyone holding baht-denominated instruments.
It's frustrating talking to stupid people who try to use college words or banking words to sound smart, because you honestly believe you understand this shit.
10 months ago
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>No consequence outside Thailand
m8 if you don't know about Japan's stagnation or the direct official link between Daewoo fraud and the Hallyu wave, then you're less informed than someone who just read the news at the time.
10 months ago
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Um sweaty, Japan had professional baseball before the war started
10 months ago
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America rebuilt Japan so well they became the second largest economy in the world. Name any other time in history a victor has done that to their vassal state
Forgot to add that South Korea took longer, but still recovered. Basing it on cultural impact, Japan, China, and South Korea are just more popular than Vietnam. Vietnam is really only extremely culturally impactful for Americans and may be Australians, since they were also involved in the war. The French as well due to their occupation.
Wanna hear something really fricked up? Before the Vietnam War, the rebels loved the US and idolized George Washington, etc and the usual elitist shenanigans pushed them to embrace communism so the west and east could have their fake proxy war.
Ho Chi Minh was an unironic westaboo who wanted an independent Vietnam fashioned on the American model of government.
He went around begging Western countries to help him and he was ignored. So he went communist to get military and financial support. Then kicked the shit out of America, Cambodia and China.
There aren’t many based communist countries in history, Vietnam and Yugoslavia make that list.
Baseball became the most popular sport in Japan in the 1920s. Even Babe Ruth had a parade for him in Tokyo before WW2. So it was played in Japan's former colonies, Korea and Taiwan as well, and they still play it.
I feel like literally most people have got it wrong and think Japs started playing baseball after WW2.
Thanks, I had no idea. I knew Japan tried to copy a lot about the west, like military uniforms and organization, to be taken seriously on the world stage in the late 19th/early 20th century. I didn't know they also borrowed sports.
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Well, I'd also mention that US-Japan relations were pretty good in the early 20th century, at least on the surface level and that explains a lot. Japan sent tons of cherry blossoms to Washington D.C. at that time and you can still see them there.
It wasn't rare that non-western countries were playing western western sports but they were normally just playing British sports. That's obviously one of the reasons why people tend to think Japs started playing baseball as a result of WW2. People are used to hearing about that non-western countries started playing British sports like football since more than 100 years ago but that's not the case for American sports. Both football and baseball were brought to Japan about the same time and baseball spread more quickly in Japan's case.
The majority of Viets who fought in that war are just dead, partly because the casualty rate was so lopsided, most other survivors from later wars like with China and Misc Pot, or other stuff like accidents and the shit standards of living in that hellhole.
It’s the same as why the general Filipino populace has a positive view. When the Chinese are acting like locusts and openly want to genocide you on your doorstep and your best bet is to roll with the burgers and their friends, the past starts to feel further and further away.
>They have the most favorable views towards America in the world
Citation needed. I went there last year and they were still advising me to say I'm Canadian or British.
if they engage in censorship how are they better than the enemy!?!?!
but for real, let's think about this. seems like a small detail, doesnt seem like anyone will notice/care. Is it more about not giving the people who made the offense any money? In which case why not make a policy where it's not banned, but the version that is shown is pirated and absolutely 0 money gets returned to Hollywood per ticket sold. That'd be pretty based wouldn't it. Tickets would still cost but the theatres would keep 100% of the profits.
Why do countries get so sensitive about this shit? Im fricking sure there have been movies with maps depicting fricked up US boarders and they never get banned for that in the states.
>“Strategy to develop Vietnamese film industry to 2020, vision 2030”, Vietnam aspires to reach 1050 cinema screens, with 210 million audiences per year, and Vietnamese movies would account for at least 45% out of the total shows in cinemas.
In my country they removed one of the gosling jokes (the one about a male doctor in the trailer). It was "mistranslated" and "localized" to something totally wrong on purpose because it could be sexist (that was the fricking point of the joke you stupid morons Ken has been living all his life in a sexist world)
how is it possible for ken to be living in a sexist world when barbie has had every career under the sun while ken has always been nothing but a boytoy for her?
shes got every medical, engineering, math and computer science and business degree in existence, been to space as an astronaut. was in the military, ran for president and is an olympic level athlete in every sport.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie's_careers
I dunno anon it's like putting a notice on NK propaganda movies saying >Americans who are disturbed by their characterization as baby bayoneting cannibal israelites are advised to not attend this screening
Plenty of propaganda movies are basically banned and accessing them through any black market is going to get you on a list, just like a holiday in Pakistan would.
You can see it, just it's very hard to get in your jurisdiction without being on a list. Porn's made to be seen too, doesn't mean everyone has the illegal stuff saved, even though a lot do.
what they should do is invent an award show specific to their country. pretend that this movie won the grand prize, fly the director/actors/producers down for the ceremony and then flip the table and rape them all on live tv while denouncing the film.
>The "proof that barbie threads are shills, making meme engagement" thread has 10 replies >the barbie shill thread with meme engagement has 90 replies
Disgusting
Every fun thread i post in gets accused of being made by shills by bitter people who start miserable, boring threads. I am ok with big companies paying for me to have fun
While i'm ok in results, in principle you should avoid company-made fun.
I can see a future were memes are copyrighted just because you enable that type of fun, as their goal is not to make fun things, is to make money
they're two of the biggest non-established-franchise movies being released, that ought to have decently large built-in audiences. it's entirely possible that if neither becomes a hit theatrically, investors will pull funding from the cinema business or something, as the long term prospects for capeshit are running out and that was most of what was keeping them in business. just a theory.
So why are there so many thread specifically about this movie being banned in a place like Vietnam? That’s like making threads about the live action beauty and the beast movie being banned in Uganda for depicting a gay kiss. Why is this so important to you guys, one of them even devolved into /misc/ shit
Oh, so Charlie asiatic can point obvious shit out but when I point this out everybody loses their minds and calls me crazy. Right. Sure, sure. Whatever.
NOT SO FAST, CHRISSY BOY
people want to watch a fun summer blockbuster Cruisekino, not some doom and gloomy "I havve become sneed, seeder of feed :((" nerdfest
not my problem
It's funny watching Chinese fishing ships invade Vietnamese and Filipino waters, and the hapless locals are too afraid to do anything about it.
>taiwannews.com
Lmao, kek even
Nobody is seething. There's literally no reason to allow foreign movies trying to disrupt your countries societies. Maybe the west should start engaging in that too maybe it would stop being such an immigrant/refugee infected shithole then.
.com
>Lmao, kek even
Yeah it's those pesky Taiwanese journalists that made Chinese soldiers cry
>allow foreign movies trying to disrupt your countries societies.
because that's totally what WB wants to do right? destabilize a country no one can find on a map. some places really think they matter in the world.
so the US should've stomped them easy, right? :^)
>Comparing a company releasing a movie to a war
NTA but you have autism to jump from "WB isn't trying to destroy a nation" to "muh Vietnam war"
why would army "officials" say it's authentic. Why not just say it's fake, it wasn't us and so on?
There is literally a footage of it.
I think the Chinese damage control of this was that they were crying because were saying goodbye to their families. Nobody questioned the authenticity of that video afaik
people instinctivley know bad shit happens so you cant deny everything, you'd need to save your denials for shit you really dont want out so that the denial has more weight to it
The Chinese really are the Black folk of Asia, it would be so easy to just not act like dicks and cause everyone to hate you but they refuse to do it.
chinese have called themselves "the middle kingdom" for thousands of years. they've always viewed themselves as the center of civilization surrounded by barbarians. why would they give a frick about the uncivilized vietnamese barbarians?
>buying into a nation's PR
next you'll be telling me France isn't all liberty, equality and brotherhood, and we have absolutely no recent evidence to believe otherwise.
Because the last time China tried to invade Vietnam Charlie kicked there chink asses so hard they had to give up and scurry back home? This was after Vietnam had been devastated by the US bombing north Vietnam with the largest air campaign since WW2, and the whole exhaustion of the Vietnam war, yet the chinks couldn't do frickall against them
>Chinese
>civilized
Pick one.
The fact that horrible accident after horrible accident is common there tells you that they're a bunch of sub-human morons.
Where exactly is the humor here?
Don't know about him but I find it hilarious. I bet they still have parades and shit to celebrate when the US left. Do you think China would be fricking with them that hard if there was a couple of US air bases and navy bases there?
considering China is fricking with the Philippines too, and they're basically an American colony "just you're not supposed to say it out loud", yeah
>just be ruled by one country so another doesn't rule you
I think they enjoy not having to import africans.
china wouldn't have to frick with them because as an am*rican colony they'd have a homegrown gay terrorist movement raping their kids
funny how?
Like it amuses him funny.
I dunno, like they say funny things
Came here for this
Yet if China tried to invade Vietnam they'd get destroyed (again)
>starting an international incident with the most insecure world power of all time over some fishing boats
Like you just know those chink pussies would immediately start bawwing about "anti-han discrimination" or whatever
Don't the vietnamese have shrines dedicated to communism? They wanted it
You’re a fricking moron. After they kicked the shit out of the American army they went into Cambodia and kicked the shit out of the Communist Khmer Rogue, and then once they finished that they kicked the shit out of Communist China. Viets are based.
but they are also commies themselves
>kicked the shit out of the US army
Please post military casualties for both countries.
Compare German and Soviet losses, I guess that means Germany won the war.
those were actually pretty even if you don't count civilians and POWs, don't be a redditor
and Vietnam war casualties are pretty even when you count ARVN casualties, who actually did a vast majority of the fighting. But of course this a little fact Americans like to pretend to forget about before going on to make outrageous claims about the casualty figures as if GIs were all John Rambos mowing down hundreds and hundreds of guys on their own.
>who actually did a vast majority of the fighting
uhmmmm... source?
uuuh the fact that they had been fighting since before the US was involved and for 6 years after the US ceased major operations in Vietnam in 69~, the fact that they committed far more men than the US to the war effort. The fact that ever offensive in North Vietnam like Operation Lam Son 719 was entirely fought by ARVN? Are you insane? How can you possibly question this statement?
I don't see any data that would prove your statement, neither about their involvement nor "small" casualties, pal.
>Vietnams casualties compared to the US are pretty even when you add non-us casualties to the US casualties
Lmao okay?
Hey dumb frick. If you're going to use the totality of NVA losses, which the ARVN is responsible for inflicting a large bulk of, and then not including the ARVN loss figures in your own losses, you kinda see how you're painting a absolutely moronic inaccurate picture? Or are you just low IQ?
>amerimutt
>low iq
do you even have to ask
What the frick are you trying to imply? Everyone recognizes that Germany was kicking the shit out of the USSR, its just the Soviets threw endless fricking bodies at them and eventually overwhelmed them. Plus Germany fighting on two fronts.
Naw I have a vietnamese coworker and hes bretty cool and hates communism, the chinese and israelites
>Hollyisraelite pandering to China
they aren't, they are instigating the hatred vietnameses have towards china by showing them that china wants to invade them
Is this a shitpost? That can't be the reason it was banned? Who the frick in Vietnam is thinking that the coked out Hollywood frickheads put this in deliberately and that this wasn't just a coincidence.
it's real.
>“We do not grant a license for the American movie ‘Barbie’ to release in Vietnam because it contains the offending image of the nine-dash line,” said the state-run Tuoi Tre newspaper, also citing Vi Kien Thanh.
>offending image of the nine-dash line
the offending image pic related
yes, they banned it because of an abstract map that COULD be the China map
why do they seethe so much?
I only count lines? Well, anyways frick Hollywood for being Xi's b***h. Oh and frick John Xina, just because.
Kek, viets are turbo schizo. They see literal random lines on the wall as proof of China's imperialism.
Haha what is even meant to be China there
The part with the dashes on the right. The territorial dispute is even called "The 9 Dash Line". I'd be one hell of a fricking coincidence to have exactly 9 dashes coming from southern Asia; this is really clearly pandering to China, guys.
but it's eight dashed?
it's only 8 dashes
and what does the line around Greenland represent?
I hate Chinese as the next guy but this is really reaching. It's a nonsense map made for nonsense Barbie world. You have dashed lines all over the place there. It means nothing
yeah that would be one hell of a coincidence
however, 8 dashes wouldn't be a coincidence at all
which there are, 8 dashes, not 9 dashes, 8 dashes
Commies are such schizos kek. It's a blob map
This is obvious Chinese pandering. Good for Vietnam for pointing it out.
Communist Vietnam doesn't ban Barbie because of it being one of the biggest Capitalist and western Imperialist symbols but because of muh heckin' China.
This is not the first time movies being banned because of the China map related. Dozen was banned before, John Wick 4 was banned because of Donnie Yen. NaM and China Gotv are the same, they fricking ban everything.
Remember when Vietnam sent one of their noodle vendors to prison for 5 years because he was impersonating Salt Bae and they thought he was making fun of how one of their government officials went to Salt Bae's restaurant and spent $5k on a steak, which was more than what the average Vietnamese day labourer made in a year?
They're fricking schizo and ban everything.
good lord, China needs to be nuked but this is a bit of an over reaction.
But there's only eight dashes.
They can’t even count the dashes on the chalk board.
>Middle East is islands
>Europe is taking a trip to Greenland
>Madagascar is connected to Africa
Yeah, they're definitely schizo or very touchy b***hes, arguably both.
To be fair, those dashes are a really loud dog whistle. It's like if you drew a map which looked vaguely like the Mediterranean and put crops on all the other countries but gold in the eastern section, everyone knows you're not signalling Palestinians live here with that.
is taking a trip to Greenland
It's technically Danish.
is connected to Africa
That's not a good sign either. Madagascar being connected to Lemuria is one of those ancient aliens lost civilization racist things
Those two are much quieter dogwhistles, but putting dashes anywhere vaguely near Asia is a screaming one. A lot of movies don't and let China pencil in their own ones, but some movies do it because they're desperate to get into the market.
That doesn't look like a coincidence
Interesting this could be interpreted as maps are childish due to the drawing style, or the fact the dashs off asia lead to no where/encompass nothing.
>most endowed bugman
I guarantee it is not a coincidence. They're buying goodwill in China to make sure their movie doesn't get banned there. Vietnam is an acceptable sacrifice
>coked out hollywood frickheads put this in deliberately
Of course they did. China is the biggest market for them, they want to appease chinks as much as possible thinking that it will get them a billion of them wanting to watch their movie.
>just a coincidence bro
I hate you wienersuckers so much it’s unreal. Worse than Black folk.
>hollywood sucking off china for the millionth time is just a coincidence
Sure, bud.
>nooo it's not calculated, they just throw these things together!!
Every. Single. Object. Is product placement. All of them.
You think they're going to overlook a politically important map design? Remember, all props are also generally made for the project with tentpoles like this, way less scavenge
You're under estimate the stupidity of a country. China got mad at Monster Hunter movie because of a lame pun like "Chi-knees" and somehow getting that confused with some racist song about dirty knees or something.
Everything in movies is deliberate. No coincidences.
why would you have a real world map with territorial definitions in a barbie movie lol lmao even
Because Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwin are Hollywood political jerks
Because they want to suck off china.
Barbistas... not like this
it's kenover.
Sorry kenbrothers, I'm vietnamese and I can no longer identify as Ken
Ok Alan
Based Vietnam dabbing on burgers and making them seethe. AGAIN.
bro... not to ruin your fun but Vietnam is even deeper in American ass than Poland. They have the most favorable views towards America in the world
Which is really odd considering fricking Vietnam wasnt THAT long ago.
America nuked Japan and then they were playing baseball and dressing like American greasers and pop stars a few years later.
The Vietnam War was 50 years ago and the vast majority of Vietnamese don't remember it.
Japan recovered a lot better to be fair. We could have really fricked Japan over, but we didn't. Also WW2 was different than Korea and Vietnam. It had a clearly defined ending. Almost every country in WW2 recovered pretty well all things considered.
>We could have really fricked Japan over, but we didn't.
bruh
It could have been worse. Way way way worse. I'm speaking in regards to post war as well. If you told the WW2 generation in 1945 that Japan would be insanely popular in 40 years and stay that way for about 20 years, they would not have believed you.
To go from we fire bombed the shit out of you and capped it off with 2 nukes to Hondas and Toyotas, Sony Walkman, and video games is impressive. We didn't frick Japan after the war. We could have easily have forced them into a position where they would be poor and a shitty place, but we didn't do that.
>We didn't frick Japan after the war. We could have easily have forced them into a position where they would be poor and a shitty place, but we didn't do that.
America did force Americanism on their occupied territories though. Korea and Japan didn't wind up playing baseball, obsessed with consumerist junk, or making violent hentai without American involvement. Without the early 90s collapse in Asian markets engineered by the west, the west would be just as paranoid as they were in the 80s that those countries they lent their social model to seemed to be outcompeting them on home and foreign turf.
Americanism is gay, but the alternative is South American treatment. The US is slowly sliding. I don't if China will rise or some other country, but the US will eventually "collapse" as a super power. We probably won't fall too far, but we won't be number 1 eventually. I don't know when that will happen, but it will happen. 247 years with only the civil war (which came before we became a super power) is a pretty good run.
>the alternative is South American treatment. T
There are other alternatives available.
>we won't be number 1 eventually
You need to talk to some expats. This is a view you can only really hold while deep in Americanism, and consequently the places that think it tend to amount to i) The US and ii) absolute shit hole countries where seeing a picture of a can of soup is a miracle.
It's kind of NK tier in its propaganda effects on the population because they really have no external access.
I should have said was. It already happened.
More importantly for this thread, a clear sign it already happened is that in the cold war, this same argument would see US movies making Taiwan and HK huge on a map and highlighting their industrial technologies, just like when UK had an empire and liked maps which showed UK territories in red and oceans and other countries in white.
How? The US isn't going to be a super power forever. It may take 300 years, but eventually the US fade and some other place will rise. Not that the US will collapse to a wasteland, just that it won't be like it was. Nothing lasts forever. Most European countries were not super powers until the 1400-1500s. Before that they were only regionally relevant. The US is somewhat like a continuation of the British Empire. It's why everyone b***hes about colonialism. Colonialism was recent in history. The way people talk you would think that the British Empire always existed. No one except European people gives a shit about pre colonialism Europe. Tons of people are ignorant of pre colonialism Europe. They have no idea that the Romans occupied England, that the French invaded. England doesn't get mentioned in history class until like 900 AD. There's also not a lot of information about what people were doing back then.
If you sub in NK where you say America, you'll see why other countries don't teach their kids that, because it holds as well. They even have this thing where they believe they were competing with China to be the true origin of superpowers in the region, much like how you view your not being taught history of superpowers before 1400 makes you believe that there was only regional relevancy of European city states and nation before that. I mean, the Reconquista is at the end of a couple centuries of warfare with an empire that controls the gold price for Africa, the near East and Europe at the time. But of course that is not relevant, because it gives the US a sense of scale which diminishes its imperial expectations.
I was mainly talking about Northern Europe that's why i said most European countries. Obviously there were players in the world in Europe, but they weren't as impactful as the Romans. The Norse probably did the most externally. Those just North of the Romans were giving them trouble, but it's not like they were on the level of the Romans in terms of being an empire.
>no but in my version there's a direct link to vikings without them having to go through France
>also when I say northern Europe I don't mean we learnt anything about the Swedish empire
m8 you were taught propaganda, not history. Your country has zero investment in you knowing how many empires invaded the Polish plain, just like it has zero investment in you knowing what life is like in other countries.
Were they invading places on the other side of the world. Were they trading with people on the other side of the world. What are you not understanding. Sweden invading Poland is regional. The standards for what constitutes a super power were lower. The Roman Empire was more like the US now. Their reach was farther than Sweden or Poland at that time.
>No we're Romans!
You really don't see how that's propaganda used by every try hard, including the Nazis with their thousand year Reich of ten years?
Are you fricking schizo dude. Super powers in the world constantly rise and fall. The Roman Empire was one, then it fell. The US is one right now and eventually it will fall. There's been many and there are several right now. They all constantly rise and fall though.
>No but we really are Romans! My propagandist teacher told me so, and unlike the NK propagandist teachers it's really true because it happened to ME!
Sure buddy, you're the new Rome and that isn't just something Americans believe
We are a superpower. If you can't see that then you're a moron. If you choose to ignore it then you're just seething. American influence is fricking everywhere. Doesn't mean it's good, but you're delusional to deny it.
>If you don't understand nk is a superpower then you have not seen the glorious leader
>It doesn't matter our facts don't check out those are irrelevant to my feeling like I belong to a superpower
Sure buddy
You're actually schizo dude.
You're just going to ignore the post WW2 era all the up to the modern day. Get help dude or get over it.
>No don't make me experience the US from an external perspective
You don't have to buddy, just like NK citizens never have to learn the South is not starving and running out rice.
You're confusing what a superpower is. North Korea barely influences the outside world other than having nukes. You're actually fricking stupid or schizo. We wage stupid wars uncontested. Everyone in the West mostly goes along with our shit. We blatantly disregard the UN. We have a lot of cultural influence and impact in the world. I don't like the US, but to act like the US is equivalent of North Korea or some place that doesn't have a sphere of influence that spans the whole globe. You can find someone in every corner of the world who knows what Coca Cola is. You're fricking insane or butthurt.
These are all things which NK does. They're also things that NK citizens believe show their superpowers.
yes, North Korea wages wars on the other side of the globe, thank you for contributing
What is a superpower then. Tell me how the US isn't one.
Gurantee if you arent in the US your country kowtows to the US. But sure they arent a super power
>in a thread about the US kowtowing to a communist nation's expansionist fantasy
>I bet everyone kowtows to the US
Not to be a party pooper, but if the US has everyone bowing to them, why does the US go out of their way to please China with a fantasy map? Countries within missile range not kowtowing to them while the US does isn't really helping this idea that the US is some big bad.
Are you OK dude
>why does the US go out of their way to please China with a fantasy map
The US isn't doing this, eurohomosexual. Hollywood is doing this in order to sell more tickets/merchandise in China, which (for the moment, anyway) is still a major consumer market.
>But we're sucking them off for money not out of fear
Uhuh, not seeing how this makes you the top in the gay relationship
I accept your concession. Nice projection there, by the way - just get back from a pride march?
Enjoy sucking off China in a totally not kowtowing not bottoming way I guess?
Holy shit, you're obsessed with gay sex. Come out of the closet already, homosexual. Guaranteed everybody already knows you're a butt pirate.
Oh no, anon thinks I'm gay because I pointed out the US is sucking China's dick. Maybe don't suck dick in public if you don't want people to think you're open to public wiener gobbling.
Why the frick did you reply to me homosexual? I didnt say shit about your homosexualry. Im asking why China lets the US constantly piss in their mouth over Taiwan.
>There's nothing gay about getting a top to piss in your mouth
anon that is super gay
Lmao thats what I thought pathetic fricking bug. When are you guys taking Taiwan by force again?
Obsessed? Check.
People aren't staring because they're obsessed with you, homosexual, they're staring because you're publicly sucking wiener and asking for your dommy gay daddy to wash it down with piss and that is a spectacle
Wow, doubling down on the homosexualry. Seriously, when are you coming out of the closet?
Anon do you think that you sucking dick made everyone else gay?
Desperate projection continues, meanwhile everybody ITT 100% knows you're a homo.
>If I'm into ricedick and kowtowing to China to show my superpowers erryone else must be too
Not everyone is into sucking China's dick and balls like you are
Tripling down? How much lower can you go?
Yes brother i cant believe the US let China drive tanks to Taiwan how embarrassing
>i can't believe
You should after every apology about Hainan Island every time the US elects a new president.
Yes i know here in the USA we are rearry rearry scary about the grand PLA driving their tanks to taiwan (rightful china clay) in 2 more weeks
That seems excessIve when you can just let the president to apologize for questioning China's borders every jan-feb after an election and draw maps in movies how China likes them like normal
t seething tard
Yes we are rearry rearry aware of PLA might we saw when that hag Nancy Perosi visit taiwan. That was last waning
How many times in the last year has the US provoked China over Taiwan? Follow up question. What was Chinas response to these provocations? I'll wait.
>apology about Hainan Island every time the US elects a new president
lel, revisionist insect moronation. It was a single incident, it happened over 20 years ago, and it resulted in a "letter of regret." Try again, chang.
>We only say sorry over the collision
No, the US says sorry for air space and naval "invasions" which are not invasions if you're not trusting China on borders every new president since. China actually invades US airspace and there is no apology.
Seriously, WTF are you trying to say? Your seething word salad is beyond bizarre.
I'm saying the US has one of these incidents with the Chinese at the start of every presidency this millennium, and the US always kowtows and apologizes and reaffirms China's authority on borders
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-10/china-u-s-warplanes-had-unsafe-encounter-in-south-china-sea
Even under presidents willing to start a trade war this kind of subservience happens.
Nonsense, although far better written.
>if I stick my head in the sand it goes away
It really doesn't bro
Ignoring nonsense isn't "sticking your head in the sand."
>the us is subservient to china because at the beginning of every presidency they apologize for some stupid shit
>meanwhile the rest of the time they constantly provoke china and china does frick all but issue vague final warnings but they are totally subservient guys!
Lol
>America trying to say they never defaulted IT WAS A DELAY
Ok Ross love that Friends reunion for you
Lmao yes instead of apologizing their response was deflecting with "no no it was weather barroon"
Why hasnt China done anything about Taiwan? That doesnt count as China fellating the US
Doesn't China consider Taiwan to be China? I guess they're going to do about as much as the US does about Florida.
LOL China can "consider" whatever it wants. The reality is, Taiwan is a separate country. And if you boil it down, it's the legit Chinese government. Communists aren't people.
>implying chings are people in the first place
China can also drive tanks into Taiwan while the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US is there and arrest a bunch of politicians while the US apologizes for offending them for 9 months straight, and...
Oh, sorry. What was your point again?
>China can also drive tanks into Taiwan
>drive tanks into Taiwan while the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the US is there and arrest a bunch of politicians
WTF i love china now?
taiwan is an island.....
>hollywood israelites=the us
Pretty sure the DOD recently told hollywood if they dont stop sucking chinese wiener the DOD wont work with them.
>The US pleases China
Yeah. When is the next final warning over Taiwan coming from China again Mr.Xi?
>if they dont stop sucking chinese wiener the DOD wont work with them
So the department of defense is letting them suck Chinese wiener and that is a sign of strength? Wtf am I reading?
They are giving them a choice moron. I guess reading is hard through your slant bug eyes.
And they seem to be choosing to suck off a foreign power.
And? Who gives a frick? Gurantee the israelites will come crawling back
Jefferson was right. Merchants have no country.
Also going to just ignore the US constantly pissing in Chinas mouth over Taiwan? Lmao
>don't mean we learnt anything about the Swedish empire
The most the US teach about the Dutch is New York was briefly New Amsterdam. The VOC is a non-entity to them. They're often genuinely surprised there was a slave trade anywhere else.
the US eduction system has plenty more holes in it than that.
Excluding the VOC from history is a pretty goddamn huge hole.
Anyone who isn't a complete moron knows slavery was more than the United States. Slavery still exists.
I don't buy it. They know about slavery but not the VOC? I doubt they even know about Brazilian slavery under the Portuguese. This seems like you're lying to yourself.
The specifics probably not, but anyone who isn't a complete moron knows that most slaves went to Brazil. Arabs had slaves. israelites owned slave ships. Africans had slaves. Romans had slaves. The Dutch East India Company. The Belgian Congo.
The American school system definitely teaches none of that. One of the main reasons it doesn't teach any of that is those Arabs you mentioned stole most of the US's navy and goods when the UK stopped being their escort past Africa. There's plenty of history that directly related to the US which cannot be taught in the US because it points out holes in the great American propaganda war on its own people.
Anyone who relies on school for the entirety of their education is a moron. Sadly most people do. Doesn't mean everyone does.
I think you're being intellectually dishonest about Americans's view of history and understanding of global history. They aren't morons, but anon is right they're taught a very edited and pretty fanciful view of their role in world events.
That's what i said. There's multiple reasons why everyone thinks Americans are morons. One of them is Americans relying on what they're taught. The US is heavily propagandized and does resemble North Korea, the difference being that the US has had a much larger impact globally. North Korea thinks they have worldwide relevance, the US actually does or did until recently. Other countries do too. China does. China is in Africa. To act like the US isn't globally significant, like that schizo poster, is delusional.
>US actually does or did until recently.
They really don't. They wage "wars" like the UK tried to take back Suez and have been doing so with the UK for decades as they try to convince their own people of their relevance. The World Police joke is literally two decades old. The only country they can really hold over a barrel at all is the UK, and that's because the US has a codependent relationship with them where they both tout their own relevancy when most of their relevance comes from SDR. It's really worth keeping in mind that a country with SDR was compared to Zimbabwe within the past 12 months to see the extent of the farcical claim to relevancy that can amount to.
Holy shit.... blind idiocy like this doesn't come easily. How long have you been huffing your own farts, anon? I'd guess for decades.
How so? The only things that would be fluffed up is our role in WW2 and possibly how we beat the British for our independence.
The absence of any knowledge about any other major power is a sign of propaganda too. Hence
thinking the Netherlands being a global superpower in the 17th Century is impossible.
possible or not, it clearly didn't happen, since the only argument you seem to have is crying about americans and nothing about netherland's alleged superpower status
you're talking about a country which had to flood themselves on a regular basis just to survive french invasions btw
>But they had to defend themselves against the French
>Pls ignore the contemporaneous battles in US where french and English superpowers were duking it out, that might make it seem like the 18th century saw a new European power rising to imperial status
>clearly didn't happen
kek, this sounds like you think Europe and its American colonies won't know about Napoleon
>still no argument
>more whining about americans
you just can't help yourself lmao
What fricking major super power isn't known about here? Possibly its because the Netherlands wasnt as big a super power as you pretend? Why propogandize the Netherlands super power status but not Rome, British Empire, Persian, etc?
Because anon brought up the Netherlands as though it was a small country taking down an empire, when it was the dominant naval power regularly taking down other empires including some of those you listed. I'm not saying there weren't other superpowers in history. I'm saying acting like the Netherlands taking you down in the 17th Century was not the equivalent of the British rolling up on you in the 19th Century is either deeply disingenuous or patently ignorant of world events, and the latter is more common in Americans.
>as though it was a small country taking down an empire
it was a small country, it was also a welathy country but it never took down an ampire
sweden was never a fricking empire
>it was the dominant naval power regularly taking down other empires
what are you fricking smoking, what empires did they "take down"? some literal Black folk in indonesia? some german meme state?
abhorrent moronic muttpost, actually reddit tier
>the Swedish empire
why bring up worthless meme states like this and pretend to be sophisticated at the same time lol? swedish """"""""""empire""""""""" was just sweden + estonia and their greatest achievment was genociding some germans for french money, only redditors think it was anything relevant
>Why would Riga be important
Yes, all that northern European history America learns really paid off here.
>>Why would Riga be important
excellent question actually, why?
it increased sviden's trade revenue by 13%? cool, it was still a shithole incapable of doing anything besides hiring mercs for french money and prolonging wars in central and eastern curope
hell, swedish """"empire"""" literally ended their invasion of denmark when netherlands sent their fleet on the Baltic and told swedes to stay down
you may argue if they were even fully independent, nice superpower homosexual
>Hey it took the Dutch to take them down
kek I love how you say this like the Netherlands wasn't holding their golden age at the time and dominating world trade.
>it took the Dutch to take them down
It took the Dutch barely threatening to lift a finger, to take them down. Doesn't sound all that good, does it?
>their golden age at the time and dominating world trade
England was beating them regularly, but yes they were somewhat relevant at the time. Unlike sweden
>Doesn't sound all that good, does it?
It'd sound better if the Dutch didn't do the same thing to the English, the Spanish, the French, the Indians, the Indonesians, the South Africans, the African gold coast, and Syrians and South Americans.
>to the English, the Spanish, the French
they didn't lol
>the South Africans
why would they do this to themselves?
>the Indians, the Indonesians, the African gold coast, and Syrians and South Americans
yeah that sounds more like the IMPERIUM of SWEDEN's level
>Noooooo the Netherlands can't have been a superpower
Do you need to show us on the doll where history hurt you?
kek what are you even babbling about moron? i accept your concession i guess since you don't even know what you're replying to anymore
You seem really upset that the Netherlands was a superpower, and I guess it's because their trade influence at the time was exponentially greater than the US has.
>literally WE WUZing
Is this how yurocucks cope for being kicked out of Asia by a bunch of western larping manlets?
>Can't prove your garbage theory
>y-you are upset that I'm right!!
what a lazy Black person you are, pathetic lmao
Netherlands was NEVER a superpower lmao
insane cope
>It took the Dutch barely threatening to lift a finger, to take them down. Doesn't sound all that good, does it
Yes, because the Dutch at the time were the empire on which the sun never set and the model for all future superpowers. Even if you're just a weeb you should know the Dutch global influence was incredibly strong because they're the only ones who got into Japan.
>DOOD THEY HAD SPICE TRADE OUTPOSTS IN INDONESIA
>*gets raped by Vauban*
>*loses two wars to England*
>The spice trade means nothing
lol I guess we can tell Europe they didn't need to conquer or discover anywhere for themselves and the wood from American colonies was pointless because we really didn't need globalised trade
>MUH SPICE WAS BETTER THAN WINNING WARS
Thats an issue of technology though.
Yeah i dont think so. Im pretty sure globalism will be completely take over before the US collapses and we all know that will just be USA 2.0
>Without the early 90s collapse in Asian markets engineered by the west,
That's not a thing, actually. You're apparently some /misc/tard type referring obliquely to the baht collapse, something which was in fact in no way engineered by anyone outside Thailand and was contained within 18 months, and also had little impact outside Thailand or anyone holding baht-denominated instruments.
It's frustrating talking to stupid people who try to use college words or banking words to sound smart, because you honestly believe you understand this shit.
>No consequence outside Thailand
m8 if you don't know about Japan's stagnation or the direct official link between Daewoo fraud and the Hallyu wave, then you're less informed than someone who just read the news at the time.
Um sweaty, Japan had professional baseball before the war started
America rebuilt Japan so well they became the second largest economy in the world. Name any other time in history a victor has done that to their vassal state
Forgot to add that South Korea took longer, but still recovered. Basing it on cultural impact, Japan, China, and South Korea are just more popular than Vietnam. Vietnam is really only extremely culturally impactful for Americans and may be Australians, since they were also involved in the war. The French as well due to their occupation.
Wanna hear something really fricked up? Before the Vietnam War, the rebels loved the US and idolized George Washington, etc and the usual elitist shenanigans pushed them to embrace communism so the west and east could have their fake proxy war.
Ho Chi Minh was an unironic westaboo who wanted an independent Vietnam fashioned on the American model of government.
He went around begging Western countries to help him and he was ignored. So he went communist to get military and financial support. Then kicked the shit out of America, Cambodia and China.
There aren’t many based communist countries in history, Vietnam and Yugoslavia make that list.
Baseball became the most popular sport in Japan in the 1920s. Even Babe Ruth had a parade for him in Tokyo before WW2. So it was played in Japan's former colonies, Korea and Taiwan as well, and they still play it.
I feel like literally most people have got it wrong and think Japs started playing baseball after WW2.
Thanks, I had no idea. I knew Japan tried to copy a lot about the west, like military uniforms and organization, to be taken seriously on the world stage in the late 19th/early 20th century. I didn't know they also borrowed sports.
Well, I'd also mention that US-Japan relations were pretty good in the early 20th century, at least on the surface level and that explains a lot. Japan sent tons of cherry blossoms to Washington D.C. at that time and you can still see them there.
It wasn't rare that non-western countries were playing western western sports but they were normally just playing British sports. That's obviously one of the reasons why people tend to think Japs started playing baseball as a result of WW2. People are used to hearing about that non-western countries started playing British sports like football since more than 100 years ago but that's not the case for American sports. Both football and baseball were brought to Japan about the same time and baseball spread more quickly in Japan's case.
The majority of Viets who fought in that war are just dead, partly because the casualty rate was so lopsided, most other survivors from later wars like with China and Misc Pot, or other stuff like accidents and the shit standards of living in that hellhole.
It’s the same as why the general Filipino populace has a positive view. When the Chinese are acting like locusts and openly want to genocide you on your doorstep and your best bet is to roll with the burgers and their friends, the past starts to feel further and further away.
>They have the most favorable views towards America in the world
Citation needed. I went there last year and they were still advising me to say I'm Canadian or British.
>herro
>ru know wat be rearry funnry?
>I have perfrect maparu jokru.
>If roo put dis maparu roo it preeze papa xi!
>CHRINA WILL GRUW RARGER!
jeez anti asian racists are so cringe morons
>$.02 Caradian dorrars have breen deprositrued
> He’s another Ken.
No he’s not he’s a Ching Chong.
Looks more like a Ryu than a Ken
good. oppeinheimer deserves to win
from VIETNAM
if they engage in censorship how are they better than the enemy!?!?!
but for real, let's think about this. seems like a small detail, doesnt seem like anyone will notice/care. Is it more about not giving the people who made the offense any money? In which case why not make a policy where it's not banned, but the version that is shown is pirated and absolutely 0 money gets returned to Hollywood per ticket sold. That'd be pretty based wouldn't it. Tickets would still cost but the theatres would keep 100% of the profits.
Its about sending a message anon. The US actually recently did something similar to Hollywood with those israelites trying to pander to China.
Why do countries get so sensitive about this shit? Im fricking sure there have been movies with maps depicting fricked up US boarders and they never get banned for that in the states.
There are no real questions about US borders. Asia is full of countries that are still arguing over theirs
So its literally essentially a country form of insecurity?
Pretty much but in this case it's understandable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_areas_disputed_by_Canada_and_the_United_States
lol
Literally who: The list
Because China/Russia love playing this game of laying claim to shit that isn't theirs.
If America wasn't in play Eastern Europe would be Russia and most of Asia would be China.
Based on what? China was the hegemon in Asia in the past and that never happened.
Countries who aren't sensitive about shit like this get turned into France.
What do you mean by this? Like France in WW2?
France in current year.
Don't be obtuse.
Countries that are sensitive and nationalistic like that are brown shitholes
And those that aren't are quickly becoming one.
>The fricking barbie movie is making political claims about east asian maritime borders
Life is funny
do they even watch movies in vietnam? i thought that place was all poverty
>“Strategy to develop Vietnamese film industry to 2020, vision 2030”, Vietnam aspires to reach 1050 cinema screens, with 210 million audiences per year, and Vietnamese movies would account for at least 45% out of the total shows in cinemas.
In my country they removed one of the gosling jokes (the one about a male doctor in the trailer). It was "mistranslated" and "localized" to something totally wrong on purpose because it could be sexist (that was the fricking point of the joke you stupid morons Ken has been living all his life in a sexist world)
how is it possible for ken to be living in a sexist world when barbie has had every career under the sun while ken has always been nothing but a boytoy for her?
shes got every medical, engineering, math and computer science and business degree in existence, been to space as an astronaut. was in the military, ran for president and is an olympic level athlete in every sport.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie's_careers
>israeli hollywood now pandering to China
Couldn't they just put a notice before the movie objecting to that part rather than a full ban
>come on, I just implied that your territory is illegitimate, no biggie!
I dunno anon it's like putting a notice on NK propaganda movies saying
>Americans who are disturbed by their characterization as baby bayoneting cannibal israelites are advised to not attend this screening
Plenty of propaganda movies are basically banned and accessing them through any black market is going to get you on a list, just like a holiday in Pakistan would.
If propoganda's purpose is to be seen, yet it is banned, then it isn't propaganda is it.
You can see it, just it's very hard to get in your jurisdiction without being on a list. Porn's made to be seen too, doesn't mean everyone has the illegal stuff saved, even though a lot do.
usually when movies get banned in the far east it means its NOT a based movie, whatever the reason they give
what they should do is invent an award show specific to their country. pretend that this movie won the grand prize, fly the director/actors/producers down for the ceremony and then flip the table and rape them all on live tv while denouncing the film.
>The "proof that barbie threads are shills, making meme engagement" thread has 10 replies
>the barbie shill thread with meme engagement has 90 replies
Disgusting
I highly doubt with the memes anyone here is going to watch Barbie. Relax Oppbros.
Every fun thread i post in gets accused of being made by shills by bitter people who start miserable, boring threads. I am ok with big companies paying for me to have fun
>I am ok with being a slave massa give me pigs feet and chicken heads
While i'm ok in results, in principle you should avoid company-made fun.
I can see a future were memes are copyrighted just because you enable that type of fun, as their goal is not to make fun things, is to make money
Why is the marketing for Barbie and Oppenheimer so aggressive? I've no interest in seeing these movies but they're everywhere.
they're two of the biggest non-established-franchise movies being released, that ought to have decently large built-in audiences. it's entirely possible that if neither becomes a hit theatrically, investors will pull funding from the cinema business or something, as the long term prospects for capeshit are running out and that was most of what was keeping them in business. just a theory.
you guys cant hide behind steven chow forever.
one day you'll have to actually be funny
BASED Vietnam dabbing on israeliteywood and chinkland. lol
Dumb esl poster
why cant all the chinese just get along and share
So why are there so many thread specifically about this movie being banned in a place like Vietnam? That’s like making threads about the live action beauty and the beast movie being banned in Uganda for depicting a gay kiss. Why is this so important to you guys, one of them even devolved into /misc/ shit
they're shill threads attempting to talk about any news relating to the movie at all.
I mean I guess? Not really shilling if again one of them got hijacked by a Chinese anon spewing out fantasy geopolitical propaganda
Barbiebros...Vietnambros...Whitebros...it's over...
For me it's Vina Sky.
That's right, Vietnam is Oppenheimer country. Take that barbie shit back to China.
Oh, so Charlie asiatic can point obvious shit out but when I point this out everybody loses their minds and calls me crazy. Right. Sure, sure. Whatever.
What should I have my Barbie wear when we go to the premiere of this film together?
China has started 0 wars meanwhile America has started like 10 of them and overthrows governments. Tell me who is the evil one?
>movie is gonna be banned in half of the world anyway because of multiple trannies and homosexuals in the film
Nolanchuds, we won.
NOT SO FAST, CHRISSY BOY
people want to watch a fun summer blockbuster Cruisekino, not some doom and gloomy "I havve become sneed, seeder of feed :((" nerdfest
meant for
>B-52 Stratofortress
>the peak of US global warmachine
>between 10 and 17 percent of all B-52s shot down over Vietnam
>between 10 and 17 percent of all B-52s shot down over Vietnam
lel, bullshit. The US lost a total of 15 B-52s, or about 2% of the total B-52 fleet.
Oh, I mean in Linebacker II.
>16 B-52s shot down
>4 B-52s suffered heavy damage
>5 B-52s suffered medium damage
>Over total of 200+ deployed
>Charlie in a foxhole going "he's ritterray me"
Makes me smile.
For your great great-grandfather it was archduke franz Ferdinand. For you it is a map in a movie about little girls toys.
why would a depiction of the south china sea be in a movie about barbie?
Maybe it's an origin story
viet chuds trying to cancel a movie because of le border crisis
republicans are the same all over
Why are East Asians so easily triggered?
tiny pp
I hate you all
If Margot shows her soles and toes in Vietnamese parliament then they might unban the movie.
>rumors has it that barbie is also getting dingdong bannu in xinaland
>because simu liu also said anti cccp shit
now this is kino
Why not just censor the scene and release it anyway? Vietnam dollars may not be a lot in the global tally but a million bucks is a million bucks.