im a zoomer and the peak of civilization was unironically the 90s which I wasn't around to live for
cheap shit
global economic bubble
soviets got wrecked
everybody got rich temporarily
the best videogames were coming out
early internet repulsed normalgays
it obviously rocked
Everyone was miserable in the 90s except children, they were all stuck in dead end jobs or laid off. Plus you have all the drugs and extreme racial tension.
>they were all stuck in dead end jobs or laid off. Plus you have all the drugs and extreme racial tension.
yeah it was so much worse back then compared to today right
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In the 90s I couldn't shitpost on Cinemaphile all the time to distract myself from it all so yeah now is a lot better.
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There was actual good television shows and movies for one so yes
>extreme racial tension.
There was not. Everyone was more casually prejudice normal but outside of shitholes like LA, NY and DC that was not an issue. >but that's just because whites had a greater majority
lol
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>there was not extreme racial tension just ignore the race riots
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>just ignore LA
Yes.
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Yeah, 6 days and extremely localized to LA. We have far exceeded the 90s race riot quota this decade already.
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>One LA riot where a white guy getting brained was national news
vs >Years of burning down cities across the country
Frick you for making me respond.
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The LA Riots were an extreme outlier in the decade. Compare that to the near annual riot every other year since Obama took office. That homosexual unironically set back race relations in the US.
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Yeah those riots really showed that racial cohesion moron lmao
I remember the 90s. There were tons of small businesses and almost no homeless. Now there are almost no small businesses and tons of disgusting homeless people everywhere.
I don't think there was actually a time in global history when racial tensions were lower than the time period between the LA race riots and 2012.
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Stop remembering things.
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i've seen at least three large polls/surveys that showed race relations were on a positive trajectory up until around 2008 and then took a precipitous decline for some reason
I remember my parents and friends and their friends all being happy go lucky for the most part. I never got bullied as a white kid who went to a school with at least an equal or near amount of blacks. Everyone was chill. You're a liar. I don't even remember hearing about racism at all growing up, either in school or at home or on TV. The 90s were essentially the best of every decade that came before it for the most part.
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>racism didn't exist because little kid me was unaware of it
>all the drugs
Ah yeah, this is a Black person posting. The crack epidemic was practically only a Black person problem.
Protip- only Black folk and trannies think the present is better than the 2000s.
Everyone was miserable in the 90s except children, they were all stuck in dead end jobs or laid off. Plus you have all the drugs and extreme racial tension.
if you dont have a nice day, you will live to see the coming generation say the exact same shit about the time you're living in right now
the past always seems better because conveniently forget the bad stuff, like the the worst domestic bombing attacks, the crack epidemic, racial riots that would make blm blush and the giant upheaval at the job market when the dotcom bubble burst
just because you have fake nostalgia for halo, pokemon and newgrounds, doesnt mean the 90s were peak civilization
but the videogames that come out now if they come out at all are objectively bad (both critical and commercial failures) unless they are made by schizo indie devs
everyone is fricking poor
there is no middle class anymore and it costs 10$ to buy 1000 nutritious calories
america is getting assfricked by chinese communists and domestic leftists
and the internet has been ruined (including this place. frick trump and q migrants and frick redditors)
Worse take than the zoomer that wasn't there, embarrassing.
>worst domestic bombing attacks
Didn't affect you at all. You watched the news and said "oh no how sad" and went about your day. They didn't create an entire security/spy apparatus over it or shut down the world and say "two weeks to stop the bombs" while fricking everyone's business.
>crack
Only affected black people and now we have fent
>racial riots that would make blm blush
Yeah ok homosexual, blm was worse
>giant upheaval at the job market when the dotcom bubble burst
Even this was not as bad as shutting down the entire economy. Only 2008 compares imo
Most of that shit is just american things, the whole world was better before america had to use its worldwide mindpoising cronies as they are doing today
Its immediately obvious that all this shit we see today goes back to the 90s, and earlier than that for most things
Saying "the 90s were THE PEAK of humanity!!!" from the American perspective is like saying a movie star's best film was the peak of their life after they proceeded to coast off its success and actively ruin themselves because of it. It's technically true, except that was also a bad time that sowed the seeds of destruction.
Of course, america was doomed much longer ago, with the revolution and constitution. the natural end result of competent white men upending the social order cuz "muh rights" is that eventually "muh rights" will trickle down to human garbage
Look at this based zoomer with impeccable taste. I bet his balls enormous too! Wish there were more of you. 90s and early 2000s were magical. I thought we will only advance further but if just got worse and worse with 911 and 2008 and total israelitery.
Games 25 years ago were just so fricking good too.
i overheard a guy at the coffeeshop saying he had to pay painters (unskilled labor) $35 an hour, plus it cost $35/hour for materials, and he billed $100-140/hour.
so anyway, if you are marking less than 35 an hour or about 75K/year, what the frick are you even doing
>early internet repulsed normalgays
It really did. Social media was a mistake. We used to tell people not even give your name over the internet. People should have done that.
Also people were much nicer overall. Optimism was pretty high, even online.
We were all so much happier than my Zoomer. There were a few tragic things that happened back then, but it was paradise compared with now. troony story time would've been shut down everywhere. The most radical things taught to us were through MTV, certainly not in every single classroom by moronic SJW teachers.
Yeah. 1999-2006 was absolute kino to be honest. I think past that point the normification of the internet has completely fricked everything beyond salvage now and I don't imagine anything ever getting "better". The whole boring cyberpunk dystopia seems inevitable now, saturation of corporatization and the total withdrawal of the ownership of anything is gonna lead to a looooooot of disaffected and bored peons with nothing left but anger at a system that hates them. And a lot of self hate too.
the internet wasn’t ruining real life then, now our socialization is ruined by it, and all our geniuses and R&D dollars go to making electrons do fancy things on screens instead of impressive innovative infrastructure projects
Yes it was, I've became a social outcast because the only thing kids were talking about was videogames and early internet phenomena like chats while my mom was too poor to afford a computer. I spent years listening to my peers talking about them and not having anything to say.
>all our geniuses and R&D dollars go to making electrons do fancy things on screens instead of impressive innovative infrastructure projects
Nah, they are all just trying to make the money printer go brrrrr in their general direction going into finance and investment instead of technology and infrastructure.
No it literally was better. One working parent could have a two story house, 3 kids and a dog. And they could go on vacations regularly. This was considered lower middle class.
The Simpsons are meant to be relatable to a broad audience. I was a lower middle class child in the 1990s and had two brothers and a dog. We lived in a two story house. My dad was a construction worker and my mom was a teacher. We went on vacation a few times a year. This was incredibly unremarkable then. Today that would be near impossible unless the parents inherited everything which the Simpsons did not and my parents did not.
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Construction worker and teacher. In other words your parents made good money. I 100% guarantee you that you can still buy a 2 story house on the combined salaries of a construction worker and teacher
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>construction worker and teacher >good money
holy hell what kind of demented abomination even are you?
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probably unemployed and hasnt seen the sun in years
If you can't afford a 2 story house with $100,000 then you're the demented one
Can your average construction worker and teacher with no inheritance >get a loan for a two story house at affordable rate that can be paid off in 30 years >have 3 kids and a dog >go on vacation twice a year
In the current year, the teacher is paying off student debt until the construction worker develops health problems. They never actually make enough money to go on vacation and their one not 3 child drains any remaining money they would have been able to save.
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Great made up story you got there
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Great argument you got there.
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>THE SYSTEM WORKS, THE SYSTEM WORKS THE SYSTEM WORKS
Why is this kid who makes 30k a year convinced he's a billionaire????
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He hasn't turned 26 yet so he's still on his parents' health insurance.
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>Nooooo, you can't be happy with what you have!! You have to be a miserable piece of shit who no one likes, like me!
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The answer is yes. And if it is no, move out of your shittastic blue shithole right now.
What about married with children then, where a shoe salesman has a 2 story house, a wife, 2 kids, and 2 cars. This was not seen as unrealistic at the time.
Or king of queens even, where a local delivery driver and a secretary making minimum wage afford a house in queens and can pay for her father too.
Even 15 years ago a house in my neighborhood was about 150k dollars, which was too expensive for what they were. Now theyre closing in on 3 million.
if you dont have a nice day, you will live to see the coming generation say the exact same shit about the time you're living in right now
the past always seems better because conveniently forget the bad stuff, like the the worst domestic bombing attacks, the crack epidemic, racial riots that would make blm blush and the giant upheaval at the job market when the dotcom bubble burst
just because you have fake nostalgia for halo, pokemon and newgrounds, doesnt mean the 90s were peak civilization
I was already an adult by the late 90s, unironically it was better. It was even pretty decent right up into the mid 2000s, despite 9/11 and all the shit that followed. Cellphones too expensive for anything other than emergencies, no normie homosexuals shitting up the internet, people actually willing to leave their house and do things, not to mention everything was realistically affordable without going into insane debt. Shits been going massively downhill and it has nothing to do with nostalgia, it has to do with people not giving a single frick about anything anymore, or worse yet, actively trying to tear everything down and getting popular and political support to do it.
You're right. The 90s up to the 105th of September 2001 was unironically the peak of human civilisation. The first Matrix movie is a timelessly good movie and Agent Smith was right about the 90s being the peak of human civilisation.
I was born in 1988, but even people who were old in the 90s still think of the 90s as a better time and they're objectively right, you gaslighting israelite.
im a zoomer and the peak of civilization was unironically the 90s which I wasn't around to live for
cheap shit
global economic bubble
soviets got wrecked
everybody got rich temporarily
the best videogames were coming out
early internet repulsed normalgays
it obviously rocked
You're right and you have my respect, you surprisingly based zoomer.
good take for a zoomer. the internet was amazing in the 90s
I completely agree with you, the internet in the 90s was much better than the internet today. The only bad thing about the internet in the 90s was the shitty dial-up connection I had back then which made me wait over an hour just to see a trailer for The Phantom Menace that was only a few minutes long. lol
just to throw another (you) onto the pile, i was already old in the 90s and can confidently say it was indeed the last truly good era in this country. started faltering in the 2000s and was on the full speed downward spiral by around 2012 in my estimation
I love everything being hyperpolarized and not being able to talk to anyone about any topic in case they think I have the wrong opinion which would make me either a nazi or a troony depending on whom the other guy swears allegiance to. It was so much worse when we could have semi-intelligent dialogues and nuanced opinions. Yup, I love being judged for my skin color instead of the quality of my character and of my work. Nothing beats raciosexual profiling.
I lived that decade abused and in poverty. I wish I got to actually enjoy it the way others did.
Missed every fad and almost every show.
I missed the best time to be a kid.
>young and full of optimism
let's look at new data from CDC in 2023 >22% of high school students said they had seriously considered suicide within the past year >18% said they had a plan >10% attempted suicide at least once
the 90s were objectively better >better music >better films >better tv >better anime >internet was a niche nerd interest >geek shit in general hadn't been ruined by normies >pre 9-11 so no modern surveillance state >no "pride"/"trans rights" shit >male/female relations hadn't been ruined by tindr/neo feminism >no fat activism shit
etc etc
I worked at a failed dot com startup and I remember having this conversation at our Y2K party and talking to each other about how big the internet was going to be, but deep down a part of you didnt really believe it like it was all pie in the sky talk.
Honestly I still find it hard to believe sometimes. It was a paradigm shift so enormous I don't think I'm over the shock. Everything happened so fricking fast. Smartphones didn't even exist until 2007. It's "only" been 16 years and it's almost hard to imagine life where you couldn't instantly get any information or instantly contact anyone at any time, but I lived it. I used to get a paper TV guide in the mail and highlight shows I wanted to watch over the next month.
I miss when everyone watched a TV show at the same time every evening of every week. Nothing will ever match the experience of watching Lost live.
That was 2005 for me you fricking goblin. But OP pic is 100% correct. Its all been downhill. Everythings degraded, souless and effortless. Saturated with brats and low lifes.
>the time when you were still young and full of optimism was also objectively the best time of humanity? what a coincidence
so why are all the young people now like this?
If you can't see how an era before the Patriotic Act is objectively superior to one that still suffers under its sins then frankly I have no idea what to do with you.
You're right and the nostalgiaBlack folk will never admit it. There's more opportunity now than ever before if you're not a lazy demoralised homosexual.
The world was in much better shape before Dubya Bush and his pals stole the 2000 election, allowed 9/11 to happen, passed the PATRIOT Act, invaded two countries, enacted No Child Left Behind, and created the Bush Doctrine which every zoomer, especially the SJWs, take as gospel.
That there's only 1 mention of Bush this entire thread and 0 of Cheney tells me lots of people don't know who to blame for this clown world dystopia we've been shoved into.
Yeah he's probably right. I first noticed things seemed to be declining around 2002. It's been steady and is increasing in pace. I'm convinced our society is on the brink of collapse, and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it.
There's always somebody who pops out and says that the 90s sucked without giving any reasons. Saying it's below the 10's is pants-on-head moronic. Absolutely warped worldview. Probably from privledge.
The 90's was a counter culture decade which means overall happiness was down compared to the previous decade. But it was still better than the 2010's which was not a counter culture decade. The 2020's are a counter culture decade and nobody's happy though.
The only real counter culture left is being NEET and refusing to participate in culture altogether. Every subculture has been commodified and corporatized. This process began way back in the 90s, but we could at least call people posers and sellouts. But millennials gave in and lost the battle and zoomers can't claw over each other fast enough to sellout and "get their bag".
Narcissists cannot stand being left out. A significant fraction of zoomers are narcissists due to the effect of social media. Hence the "it sucked lmao" attitude towards anything from the past which "boomers" speak of reverently.
Think "what would Michael Scott do" and you have their entire life philosophy.
Up to 2008 it was fricking mint but even 2009-2012 wasnt terrible.
Everything started going full buttfricking moronic in 2013-2014, its just been downhill since
To add to this >Obama won the 2008 election >the rich and powerful realized you could easily start racial and sexual infighting to keep everyone fighting instead of holding the rich and powerful to blame when shit happens >the news media realized race bait shit was the ticket to ratings booms which in turn lead to the likes of Nancy Grace almost single handily causing the Zimzam trials, obama siding with the Ghost of sweet baby trayvon over literal Hispanic hitler Zimmerman, etc. >games stopped being about having fun and more about selling a service to get people addicted to
The trend is hardly new, I’d say it’s just getting bad enough for everyone to notice. Baby boomers are committed to plundering the economy and a social security program they didn’t fund. If millennials don’t step up and take power it’s only going to get worse
This is true, but millenials are too cucked for this to be possible. Most importantly, too atomized. It would take just a few 5-men cells to do something real good, but that's never happening when you can't even trust people you call "friends" with paying you back for the $50 you lent them for gas, when they wouldn't be caught dead lending you a dime for anything.
When courts made it so welfare programs had to serve black people as well, rich white people just took it away from everyone and poor whites cheered as they collapsed further into poverty
Yeah house prices are crazy now I'm just saying $40k then was likely the same or better standard of living in today's dollars
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>I'm just saying $40k then was likely the same or better standard of living in today's dollars
Except it's not because housing cost takes a much bigger % of your total income, brainlet.
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You are so fricking stupid
So as stated, $40k a year was as good then or better than the $80k median now
And that’s why our society is going to shit. People won’t care as as long as their lives are decent and there’s room for growth, people making money, buying houses, starting families. But when the economic conditions get bad people get angsty over pointless shit. I haven’t once seen a troony irl yet its constantly being argued about everywhere
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I regularly see two in my small town of <20k, and they're the obvious men trying to pass as women while blatantly failing, who knows however many more there are that do a better job of blending in.
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I've gone from seeing one every 5 years or so to maybe one a year. This is a more rural area so likely much healthier than the rest of the country. Still too many.
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Idk where you live or if I got lucky but I live in a medium sized city on the east coast and haven’t seen one once. Maybe I’m hanging out in the right spots idk. Either way it’s pretty low on my list of concerns of things I want my legislator to spend time on.
He's right though. Late 90's was the peak of humanity >High tech enough, without having to be perpetually always online like we are now. A perfect balance. >Sexism was still OK >The male gaze was still OK >In fact very little woke crap >No troonys in real life >Anytime troonys were in media, they were shown as dangerous mentally ill psychopaths or disgusting gays (Silence of the Lambs. Ace Ventura)
And I could go on >Minorities knew to stay in their own lane
To be fair diversity is actually genuinely a bad thing and harms the country and the country. There was a study done and the more diversity a neighborhood had the less community involvement there was and the less people trusted each other. Then of course there is the fact that hispanics and blacks commit high amounts of crime and are low IQ, neither of which are good.
>diversity
I’m sure you mean racial diversity specifically but that could be any type of diversity, which illustrates the issue and implies the solution. The army is incredibly racially diverse yet there’s basically no in-fighting despite how “conservative” the average serviceman is. That’s because there is a strong set of guiding principles and order amongst that racially diverse set.
The “in-group” could be anything. In the case of the US I’d say it’s more of an issue how diverse peoples morals and lifestyles are. Society is changing extremely fast due to the internet and globalization and it’s starting to stress the bonds that used to join nations together.
You have half the country who thinks the other half is literal demons in human skin, and basically vice versa. Massive waves of immigration is pretty much the norm for the US, but the difference today is that there’s no strong central culture for them to be pulled into and naturalized.
Look at Mexican immigrants into Texas, one or two generations and they’re a bunch of Dallas Cowboy fans who drive Fords and eat BBQ from Costco, then go vote Republican to keep the Mexicans out. Strong cultures absorb immigrants, weaker/more segmented cultures don’t.
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No, its racial diversity specifically >the army
Really?
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>massive immigration us the norm
First of all, no it isn't to the degree it has been
Second of all, visual differences are the problem here. Everyone vaguely detesting Germans or Italians is different than the visceral differences from race, which happen to bear out as greater genetic distance as well
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A simple google search would tell you how wrong you are. Adjusted for percent of population we’re not even that high right now. Stop letting media panic you into selling them your attention
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>graph stops at 2012
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check'd, I'm sure nothing has changed in 11 years, r-right?
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>then go vote Republican to keep the Mexicans out
They don't. ALL types of non-whites vote blue in the majority. The only race that votes majority red is whites.
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>The “in-group” could be anything
No it can't. We have genetic preference for our own. No one is going to give their life to protect their "in-group" who likes Marvel movies. >Massive waves of immigration is pretty much the norm for the US
Wrong. Also there's a huge difference between white immigrants (who the US is for) and non-white "immigrants" who are just invaders. >but the difference today is that there’s no strong central culture for them to be pulled into and naturalized.
BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION AND DIVERSITY YOU STUPID FRICKING TWAT! >Look at Mexican immigrants into Texas, one or two generations and they’re a bunch of Dallas Cowboy fans who drive Fords and eat BBQ from Costco, then go vote Republican to keep the Mexicans out
Yeah maybe 20 years ago. Now they don't speak English and vote for gibs. Why? BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM!
im a zoomer and the peak of civilization was unironically the 90s which I wasn't around to live for
cheap shit
global economic bubble
soviets got wrecked
everybody got rich temporarily
the best videogames were coming out
early internet repulsed normalgays
it obviously rocked
N-NO! YOU LE ONLY REMEMBER THE GOOD THINGS, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO AGAINST MY BULLSHIT THEORY
>Le perfect balance >Ignore that things were changing, they were perfect, we should have kept things the same!
You're wrong about some of these points too but it doesn't matter. It was impossible to keep them the same. You aren't talking about a stable society of farmers and lords, the reason the 90s were so wealthy and exciting is because of massive changes. Those same changes kept going and destroyed their temporary fruits because no shit they did
The amount of people autistically focusing on the LA riots when it was the Crown Heights riot which is the entire reason why blacks think police is le bad (israeli manipulation after the riots rekkd orthodox neighborhoods )…..
These people would willingly shut themselves into the Martrix and stop any attempt to become redpilled. They’re al willing agent smiths and they think they’re neo
I only hope the current styles die soon, but given that they were chosen for their cost, I can't imagine that happening without a substantial revolution.
Thats pretty crazy. How come 90s had way more high profile games coming out in a single year? Nowadays you dont really get more than a handful in as year
What are you even implying? Starcraft and daikatana were both great, for example.
Also this isn't even an argument. There is 0 good videogame nowadays. The fact there were more than 0 before is a hell of a difference. Both the signal to noise ratio and the actual signal were better. Now we only have pure noise.
The simple answer is indie games weren't really a thing and high profile games were made relatively cheaper with a much smaller staff. It wasn't until the HD Era that a staff over 50 was even heard of, now they balloon to well over 100 regularly. For example, Doom was made by six people, while Super Mario 64 and Starcraft was around 20.
>based, pilled, as well as, keyed take.
i agree, before 9/11 the world was a simpler place, no soviet union, american hegemony at it's highest, the world was ours
90s did see the dotcom bubble and subsequent crash that was so bad the nasdaq didn't recover for a decade. Albeit that was at the very end of the decade. Music revenues also peaked right before file-sharing and pirating music became more commonplace, so shows were bigger and better at the time arguably. Prosperity has still shown to increase in non-shithole countries since then so hard to say.
Let us not overlook our fallen brothers.
SEGA arguably got the best digits by launching the Dreamcast on 9/9/99 for $199.99
That image needs to be change to reflect this.
Everything negative you are experiencing socially is the end result of economic corruption. It begins with hijacking the issue of currency and ends with everyone owning nothing and being always one paycheck away from homelessness. A population with nothing to lose is dangerous to those in power, but a population left with table scraps can still be controlled. Because international banks control currency, politics are an undrainable swamp of corruption and the economy is no longer competitive, which allows them to push radical propaganda and unwanted laws no matter how much the population is against it.
The purpose of propaganda isn't necessarily to convince everyone of their message but merely to muddy the dialogue of society and fracture any chance of social cohesion which translates into positive political action. If the control of currency were taken away from banks, all of these issues would be unconsciously solved in time simply because banks would lose their ability to control industries and fund politics. People, instead of investors, would control what happens in the economy, influence politics and maintain reasonable society.
Politics in America are no longer the domain of the educated elite, but lifestyle products tailored to the psychological needs of the consumer. Banks and economics and the clever erosion of freedom by a thousand paper cuts are boring to the average person, relying on abstractions built on abstractions. But sell them a story where they are the hero fighting against a system ruled by unjust oppressors, and now you have their attention.
2012 involved the selling of narratives on a massive scale, narratives with specific enemies, narratives which presented the recipient as the hero of society's story. But since if everyone is a hero no one is, these narratives were inherently zero sum.
Why is the number so high for everyone though, I'm thinking shrinks are bullshit half of the time or americans are really this mentally I'll in proportion?
>Why is the number so high for everyone though
Because modern society is a sick anti-human system enforced into being by never-ending competition, and on top of that, our civilization is dying. No community. No meaning, just surrogate activities.
Because
2) mental illness is profitable, all those pills cost money. It's really the same reason there are so many trannies now, they make a lot of money through the surgeries and hormones and antidepressants.
2) mental illness is trendy now, everyone claims to be depressed when they're just a little bit sad.
>Almost every Western nation is experiencing the largest cost of living increase while simultaneously importing hundreds of thousands of migrants from SE Asia to prop up the Boomer class
I honestly don't think there's a worst era in our history besides the Great Depression/Dust Bowl era
Funny thing is that during the Depression the world acknowledged how fricked everything was. Now what's happening to us is marketed as a good thing, the problem is YOU for not thinking it's good.
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This all started with the invention of the air fryer. Patriotic Americans used to grill their steaks on the barbeque like a god-fearing American would but now millennial scared of a little smoke? Blasphemous
The internet is the big differentiator. Information can spred fast but negative and unhealthy information spreads through the population like wildfire when released. Like a virus.
The crazy thing is we are at the exact same moment in time with A.I. as we were with the internet back in 99'. Like even the people that thought the internet would be the absolute biggest thing ever still underestimated how big it would be.
Two things. "Viruses" (ie intracellular parasites) do not exist, except for mental ones. "AI" is 99% hype, to pump up the market, and 1% actual tech. We had "AI" since computers were invented.
This isva dishonest post. Stop using semantics to win your internet fisticuffs.
I have seen this before with the internet of the 90's. Everybody thougt the internet would be big in the 90's. So much so that a barely there startup like AOL highly valuated enough to actually buy Time Warner which at the time was prbably the biggest media company in the world. So yeah people thought the internet would be big and they STILL underestimated how huge and ubiquitous it would be. That is because the use cases werent there yet. No iphone, no social media as we now know it and no all encompassing google big data tracking everyone on Earth.
A.I.is at the same spot right now as the internet was in the 90's. People arent prepared for the game changing use case that hasnt been invented yet but will alter everything.
I did not vote for Trump but he would have gotten reelected handily if it wasnt for the coof.
I specifically remember 2019 being pretty gud times and unexpectedly based. Its just really hard to separate the kino world of 2019 from the world hitting the wood chipper at full speed almost exactly three months later.
The issue with nostalgia over the 90's is that it's like a man who has fallen off a cliff and who is nearing the bottom having nostalgia over the time when he was only halfway down. The roots of our modern day problems were growing and would sprout unless somehow contained.
Usual twitter arm chair philosopher but not technically wrong. From 2000 after, everything seems to be in a spiral of just remake the old stuff because the new stuff isn't good. There are good new stuff if you search hard enough but it's drowned out by the remakes, remasters and re-imaginings of the classics. It seems like we are in a cultural stagnation and nobody is taking the risk to break the mold.
>It seems like we are in a cultural stagnation and nobody is taking the risk to break the mold.
It's worse, the new ideas are being ignored by the public.
It takes about 15 to 20 years for a previous decades cultural identity to become readily appearant. While you're in it everything just seems plain and set to 'default'. I remember thinking at the time that the 80's had no discernable style because that's just how things were.
In two generations post zoomer zoomers will not have boilogical children. To fulfill the need to pass on their legacy private citizens will raise custom built A.I.'s prgrammed and taught to carry on their legacy and personal values into future generations.
Also a male and female nuclear family having and raising an actual boilogical child to use as anything other than a sex toy will be considered anti-lgbtq+ and immoral. Screencap this.
Am I really supposed to sit here and just pretend that after living on this planet for over 30 years that people have not constantly complained about every single fricking generation and every single era in American history?
My great grandparents literally lived through two world wars. Stop exaggerating. My grandparents and parents lived through the Cold War. Knock it off and stop being doomers about fricking everything
Yes, but only because evolution of the internet and smartphones set in motion during the 2000s put the world onto a death spiral. Perpetual 1990s is the most advanced setting with stability.
It's pretty obvious that America reached its peak in the couple decades after the war then began declining, slowly at first and then faster and faster
It would have been much better to grow up in the 50s - 80s than the 90s, but the 90s were still much, much better than now. And it will only get worse and worse
the time when you were still young and full of optimism was also objectively the best time of humanity? what a coincidence
im a zoomer and the peak of civilization was unironically the 90s which I wasn't around to live for
cheap shit
global economic bubble
soviets got wrecked
everybody got rich temporarily
the best videogames were coming out
early internet repulsed normalgays
it obviously rocked
good take for a zoomer. the internet was amazing in the 90s
you don't know what you're talking about you just parrot whatever these nostalgic millennials on here say.
debunk me homosexual
oh wait you cant because everything I said is objectively true
Everyone was miserable in the 90s except children, they were all stuck in dead end jobs or laid off. Plus you have all the drugs and extreme racial tension.
>they were all stuck in dead end jobs or laid off. Plus you have all the drugs and extreme racial tension.
yeah it was so much worse back then compared to today right
In the 90s I couldn't shitpost on Cinemaphile all the time to distract myself from it all so yeah now is a lot better.
There was actual good television shows and movies for one so yes
>extreme racial tension.
There was not. Everyone was more casually prejudice normal but outside of shitholes like LA, NY and DC that was not an issue.
>but that's just because whites had a greater majority
lol
>there was not extreme racial tension just ignore the race riots
>just ignore LA
Yes.
Yeah, 6 days and extremely localized to LA. We have far exceeded the 90s race riot quota this decade already.
>One LA riot where a white guy getting brained was national news
vs
>Years of burning down cities across the country
Frick you for making me respond.
The LA Riots were an extreme outlier in the decade. Compare that to the near annual riot every other year since Obama took office. That homosexual unironically set back race relations in the US.
Yeah those riots really showed that racial cohesion moron lmao
Racial tension was a blip and isolated to LA. Don't let revisionist documentaries cloud your judgment. Racial tensions are much, much worse today.
What drugs are you talking about?
thankfully the children are now miserable too. another successful equity initiative
My dad was well paid in the 90s despite zero college and just putting up telephone poles for a telecommunication company
I remember the 90s. There were tons of small businesses and almost no homeless. Now there are almost no small businesses and tons of disgusting homeless people everywhere.
Take me back, bros.
>extreme racial tension
I don't think there was actually a time in global history when racial tensions were lower than the time period between the LA race riots and 2012.
Stop remembering things.
i've seen at least three large polls/surveys that showed race relations were on a positive trajectory up until around 2008 and then took a precipitous decline for some reason
I remember my parents and friends and their friends all being happy go lucky for the most part. I never got bullied as a white kid who went to a school with at least an equal or near amount of blacks. Everyone was chill. You're a liar. I don't even remember hearing about racism at all growing up, either in school or at home or on TV. The 90s were essentially the best of every decade that came before it for the most part.
>racism didn't exist because little kid me was unaware of it
all the new racism is factually new
>all the drugs
Ah yeah, this is a Black person posting. The crack epidemic was practically only a Black person problem.
Protip- only Black folk and trannies think the present is better than the 2000s.
>Plus you have all the drugs and extreme racial tension.
Fricken hell. That's sounds awful. I can't even imagine living here in comfy 2023.
you are full of shit
>and extreme racial tension.
Bruh my town didn't even have black people until 2006
>I got a cushy do-nothing job straight out of high school, it's so boring! Save me Black personman!
you don't speak english you just parrot words from generations before you
also I hate millennials so why would I parrot their opinions?
>history revisionism
I get the impression people in the 90s were looking forward to the future.
Do you do that in 2023?
Does anyone?
if you dont have a nice day, you will live to see the coming generation say the exact same shit about the time you're living in right now
the past always seems better because conveniently forget the bad stuff, like the the worst domestic bombing attacks, the crack epidemic, racial riots that would make blm blush and the giant upheaval at the job market when the dotcom bubble burst
just because you have fake nostalgia for halo, pokemon and newgrounds, doesnt mean the 90s were peak civilization
>racial riots that would make blm blush
Are you moronic or did you miss the fiery but mostly peaceful protests?
>N0grw
but the videogames that come out now if they come out at all are objectively bad (both critical and commercial failures) unless they are made by schizo indie devs
everyone is fricking poor
there is no middle class anymore and it costs 10$ to buy 1000 nutritious calories
america is getting assfricked by chinese communists and domestic leftists
and the internet has been ruined (including this place. frick trump and q migrants and frick redditors)
Worse take than the zoomer that wasn't there, embarrassing.
>worst domestic bombing attacks
Didn't affect you at all. You watched the news and said "oh no how sad" and went about your day. They didn't create an entire security/spy apparatus over it or shut down the world and say "two weeks to stop the bombs" while fricking everyone's business.
>crack
Only affected black people and now we have fent
>racial riots that would make blm blush
Yeah ok homosexual, blm was worse
>giant upheaval at the job market when the dotcom bubble burst
Even this was not as bad as shutting down the entire economy. Only 2008 compares imo
>They didn't create an entire security/spy apparatus over it
Do you not fricking understand why TSA exists? You are a gigamoron.
>2001
>The nineties
Post 2001 tsa is mainly what I was referencing, not the 90s. You should never post again.
That and the warrantless wiretapping, spy devices we carry around that the government gets full access too, etc
You think blm was worse than the La riots?
>think
Know. Far worse even.
>crack
No that was the 80s, 90s was the rise of Ecstasy and rave drugs.
Most of that shit is just american things, the whole world was better before america had to use its worldwide mindpoising cronies as they are doing today
Its immediately obvious that all this shit we see today goes back to the 90s, and earlier than that for most things
Saying "the 90s were THE PEAK of humanity!!!" from the American perspective is like saying a movie star's best film was the peak of their life after they proceeded to coast off its success and actively ruin themselves because of it. It's technically true, except that was also a bad time that sowed the seeds of destruction.
Of course, america was doomed much longer ago, with the revolution and constitution. the natural end result of competent white men upending the social order cuz "muh rights" is that eventually "muh rights" will trickle down to human garbage
> domestic bombing attacks, the crack epidemic, racial riots that would make blm blush
I didn’t live in a city like a moron so none of that affected me
Look at this based zoomer with impeccable taste. I bet his balls enormous too! Wish there were more of you. 90s and early 2000s were magical. I thought we will only advance further but if just got worse and worse with 911 and 2008 and total israelitery.
Games 25 years ago were just so fricking good too.
you should stop noticing things
The tribe makes it so difficult.
The self-styled Chosen fear the people of the dragon
You're alright, kid. Don't let the morons tell you otherwise.
smartest zoomer ever
>early internet repulsed normalgays
You would have loved it. The internet was nothing but whites and some asians.
>cheap shit
lulwat
its called inflation
$20 an hour is what veteran electricians and plumbers made
i overheard a guy at the coffeeshop saying he had to pay painters (unskilled labor) $35 an hour, plus it cost $35/hour for materials, and he billed $100-140/hour.
so anyway, if you are marking less than 35 an hour or about 75K/year, what the frick are you even doing
painters arent unskilled labour lol
get an untrained painter to paint your house and see what happens
>early internet repulsed normalgays
It really did. Social media was a mistake. We used to tell people not even give your name over the internet. People should have done that.
Also people were much nicer overall. Optimism was pretty high, even online.
We were all so much happier than my Zoomer. There were a few tragic things that happened back then, but it was paradise compared with now. troony story time would've been shut down everywhere. The most radical things taught to us were through MTV, certainly not in every single classroom by moronic SJW teachers.
you are right
Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
simple af
The 90s were the best decade to be a teen in. I honestly feel bad for anyone who didn't experience it.
Yeah. 1999-2006 was absolute kino to be honest. I think past that point the normification of the internet has completely fricked everything beyond salvage now and I don't imagine anything ever getting "better". The whole boring cyberpunk dystopia seems inevitable now, saturation of corporatization and the total withdrawal of the ownership of anything is gonna lead to a looooooot of disaffected and bored peons with nothing left but anger at a system that hates them. And a lot of self hate too.
do you feel validated by these useless millennial fricks yet? lmao
the internet wasn’t ruining real life then, now our socialization is ruined by it, and all our geniuses and R&D dollars go to making electrons do fancy things on screens instead of impressive innovative infrastructure projects
Yes it was, I've became a social outcast because the only thing kids were talking about was videogames and early internet phenomena like chats while my mom was too poor to afford a computer. I spent years listening to my peers talking about them and not having anything to say.
you were a mega dork then who was rejected by other dorks, tons of people didn’t even have internet in the 90s
>all our geniuses and R&D dollars go to making electrons do fancy things on screens instead of impressive innovative infrastructure projects
Nah, they are all just trying to make the money printer go brrrrr in their general direction going into finance and investment instead of technology and infrastructure.
The 90s were better than any year in the 2000s, sorry you missed out.
2013 was pretty good but 1993 mogs it.
>2013 was pretty guy
I'm going to assume you meant 2003 because all the 10s were shit
No it literally was better. One working parent could have a two story house, 3 kids and a dog. And they could go on vacations regularly. This was considered lower middle class.
Can we stop comparing our lives to The Simpsons? It's a fricking cartoon. Homer also goes to space
>Can we stop comparing our lives to The Simpsons
No.
OK. Just know it's a moronic argument that never made any sense
The Simpsons are meant to be relatable to a broad audience. I was a lower middle class child in the 1990s and had two brothers and a dog. We lived in a two story house. My dad was a construction worker and my mom was a teacher. We went on vacation a few times a year. This was incredibly unremarkable then. Today that would be near impossible unless the parents inherited everything which the Simpsons did not and my parents did not.
Construction worker and teacher. In other words your parents made good money. I 100% guarantee you that you can still buy a 2 story house on the combined salaries of a construction worker and teacher
>construction worker and teacher
>good money
holy hell what kind of demented abomination even are you?
probably unemployed and hasnt seen the sun in years
Average salary construction worker $37,000
https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/construction-worker/salary
Average teacher salary $66,000
https://usafacts.org/data/topics/people-society/education/k-12-education/public-school-teacher-salary-average/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20average%20public,%241%2C104%20or%201.69%25%20from%202021.&text=National%20Center%20for%20Education%20Statistics.&text=National%20Center%20for%20Education%20Statistics.,-Average%20public%20school
If you can't afford a 2 story house with $100,000 then you're the demented one
>before taxes
>ignoring the cost of living
>ignoring how much it costs to raise 3 kids
You might be moronic anon
Can your average construction worker and teacher with no inheritance
>get a loan for a two story house at affordable rate that can be paid off in 30 years
>have 3 kids and a dog
>go on vacation twice a year
In the current year, the teacher is paying off student debt until the construction worker develops health problems. They never actually make enough money to go on vacation and their one not 3 child drains any remaining money they would have been able to save.
Great made up story you got there
Great argument you got there.
>THE SYSTEM WORKS, THE SYSTEM WORKS THE SYSTEM WORKS
Why is this kid who makes 30k a year convinced he's a billionaire????
He hasn't turned 26 yet so he's still on his parents' health insurance.
>Nooooo, you can't be happy with what you have!! You have to be a miserable piece of shit who no one likes, like me!
The answer is yes. And if it is no, move out of your shittastic blue shithole right now.
Okay, I will compare myself to Malcolm in the Middle where they constantly complain about being poor but have a big house and a family.
What about married with children then, where a shoe salesman has a 2 story house, a wife, 2 kids, and 2 cars. This was not seen as unrealistic at the time.
Or king of queens even, where a local delivery driver and a secretary making minimum wage afford a house in queens and can pay for her father too.
Even 15 years ago a house in my neighborhood was about 150k dollars, which was too expensive for what they were. Now theyre closing in on 3 million.
I was already an adult by the late 90s, unironically it was better. It was even pretty decent right up into the mid 2000s, despite 9/11 and all the shit that followed. Cellphones too expensive for anything other than emergencies, no normie homosexuals shitting up the internet, people actually willing to leave their house and do things, not to mention everything was realistically affordable without going into insane debt. Shits been going massively downhill and it has nothing to do with nostalgia, it has to do with people not giving a single frick about anything anymore, or worse yet, actively trying to tear everything down and getting popular and political support to do it.
I bet you also watched Friends and believed that 25yo people in 2002 could afford to rent New York city penthouses
it was actually better though
society has gotten unironically worse, inflation is worse, demographics are worse.
what do YOU feel optimistic about? we barely even have technological progress anymore
even kids aren't optimistic these days
>still young and full of optimism
lol
Correct.
Wait there are people who don't consider suicide? Genuinely an alien concept to me.
You're right. The 90s up to the 105th of September 2001 was unironically the peak of human civilisation. The first Matrix movie is a timelessly good movie and Agent Smith was right about the 90s being the peak of human civilisation.
I was born in 1988, but even people who were old in the 90s still think of the 90s as a better time and they're objectively right, you gaslighting israelite.
You're right and you have my respect, you surprisingly based zoomer.
I completely agree with you, the internet in the 90s was much better than the internet today. The only bad thing about the internet in the 90s was the shitty dial-up connection I had back then which made me wait over an hour just to see a trailer for The Phantom Menace that was only a few minutes long. lol
* The 90s up to the 10th of September 2001
Stupid keyboard.
>up to the 10th of September 2001
why, what happened on the 11th?
I was listening to President Bush read me and the rest of my class a children's book.
Reminds me of that tragedy
It was objectively better in every measurable way.
>the time when you were still young and full of optimism was also objectively the best time of humanity? what a coincidence
ah but it’s not a coincidence. I am the main character of reality after all.
just to throw another (you) onto the pile, i was already old in the 90s and can confidently say it was indeed the last truly good era in this country. started faltering in the 2000s and was on the full speed downward spiral by around 2012 in my estimation
>coincidence
Social Media has and always will be a cancer to society
Sorry shithead, it was better. Your genes are likely part of the problem.
what the frick do my jeans have to do with anything?
I love everything being hyperpolarized and not being able to talk to anyone about any topic in case they think I have the wrong opinion which would make me either a nazi or a troony depending on whom the other guy swears allegiance to. It was so much worse when we could have semi-intelligent dialogues and nuanced opinions. Yup, I love being judged for my skin color instead of the quality of my character and of my work. Nothing beats raciosexual profiling.
I lived that decade abused and in poverty. I wish I got to actually enjoy it the way others did.
Missed every fad and almost every show.
I missed the best time to be a kid.
>young and full of optimism
let's look at new data from CDC in 2023
>22% of high school students said they had seriously considered suicide within the past year
>18% said they had a plan
>10% attempted suicide at least once
What kind of homosexual thinks current year plus n is better than any point in history besides maybe the Black Death
True, but I was also objectively better.
I just consider myself extremely blessed for being able to experience such a time
80s is better
the 90s were objectively better
>better music
>better films
>better tv
>better anime
>internet was a niche nerd interest
>geek shit in general hadn't been ruined by normies
>pre 9-11 so no modern surveillance state
>no "pride"/"trans rights" shit
>male/female relations hadn't been ruined by tindr/neo feminism
>no fat activism shit
etc etc
its LITERALLY worse now
There was so much optimism in 99'.
I worked at a failed dot com startup and I remember having this conversation at our Y2K party and talking to each other about how big the internet was going to be, but deep down a part of you didnt really believe it like it was all pie in the sky talk.
Honestly I still find it hard to believe sometimes. It was a paradigm shift so enormous I don't think I'm over the shock. Everything happened so fricking fast. Smartphones didn't even exist until 2007. It's "only" been 16 years and it's almost hard to imagine life where you couldn't instantly get any information or instantly contact anyone at any time, but I lived it. I used to get a paper TV guide in the mail and highlight shows I wanted to watch over the next month.
I miss when everyone watched a TV show at the same time every evening of every week. Nothing will ever match the experience of watching Lost live.
>young and full of optimism
You're a normalscum if you were ever full of optimism on your own
The post that absolutely annihilated nostalgiahomosexualry.
>th-this time it's different! Really!
fake quote
What happened to the ancient greeks? Maybe he was right.
nah lgbt rights is prove that things just gotten worse
That was 2005 for me you fricking goblin. But OP pic is 100% correct. Its all been downhill. Everythings degraded, souless and effortless. Saturated with brats and low lifes.
kek at the absolute seethe this post generated
>the time when you were still young and full of optimism was also objectively the best time of humanity? what a coincidence
so why are all the young people now like this?
They aren't. The reason this clip gets reposted to death is because it's unusual and disturbing
Really? Do you know a lot of normies? How many of them are on meds like these?
I don't know a single person who has taken antidepressants although it's not something you advertise unless you're desperate for attention
Objectively better and objectively worse exist
I was young but I've never been optimistic or happy.
If you can't see how an era before the Patriotic Act is objectively superior to one that still suffers under its sins then frankly I have no idea what to do with you.
baseeeedddd
nihilistic millennial homosexuals here need to kill themselves already and get on with it.
You're right and the nostalgiaBlack folk will never admit it. There's more opportunity now than ever before if you're not a lazy demoralised homosexual.
There objectively is not
>There's more opportunity now than ever before
Only if you or black, trans or female.
You are probably too young to understand. That's probably better for you, lower chance you will ever commit suicide.
The world was in much better shape before Dubya Bush and his pals stole the 2000 election, allowed 9/11 to happen, passed the PATRIOT Act, invaded two countries, enacted No Child Left Behind, and created the Bush Doctrine which every zoomer, especially the SJWs, take as gospel.
That there's only 1 mention of Bush this entire thread and 0 of Cheney tells me lots of people don't know who to blame for this clown world dystopia we've been shoved into.
Yeah he's probably right. I first noticed things seemed to be declining around 2002. It's been steady and is increasing in pace. I'm convinced our society is on the brink of collapse, and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it.
the 90s were shit, but wow news flash childhood nostalgia makes the time you were a kid seem like heaven
honestly out of the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s i may put the 90s dead last.
well i guess that makes you a stupid moron that nobody likes, doesn't it?
The 1910's sucked though.
There's always somebody who pops out and says that the 90s sucked without giving any reasons. Saying it's below the 10's is pants-on-head moronic. Absolutely warped worldview. Probably from privledge.
The 90's was a counter culture decade which means overall happiness was down compared to the previous decade. But it was still better than the 2010's which was not a counter culture decade. The 2020's are a counter culture decade and nobody's happy though.
The only real counter culture left is being NEET and refusing to participate in culture altogether. Every subculture has been commodified and corporatized. This process began way back in the 90s, but we could at least call people posers and sellouts. But millennials gave in and lost the battle and zoomers can't claw over each other fast enough to sellout and "get their bag".
Narcissists cannot stand being left out. A significant fraction of zoomers are narcissists due to the effect of social media. Hence the "it sucked lmao" attitude towards anything from the past which "boomers" speak of reverently.
Think "what would Michael Scott do" and you have their entire life philosophy.
I'd honestly kill to live in 2010 compared to our modern world
Up to 2008 it was fricking mint but even 2009-2012 wasnt terrible.
Everything started going full buttfricking moronic in 2013-2014, its just been downhill since
To add to this
>Obama won the 2008 election
>the rich and powerful realized you could easily start racial and sexual infighting to keep everyone fighting instead of holding the rich and powerful to blame when shit happens
>the news media realized race bait shit was the ticket to ratings booms which in turn lead to the likes of Nancy Grace almost single handily causing the Zimzam trials, obama siding with the Ghost of sweet baby trayvon over literal Hispanic hitler Zimmerman, etc.
>games stopped being about having fun and more about selling a service to get people addicted to
The trend is hardly new, I’d say it’s just getting bad enough for everyone to notice. Baby boomers are committed to plundering the economy and a social security program they didn’t fund. If millennials don’t step up and take power it’s only going to get worse
The only way for milennials to step up and take power is minecraft
Please die in a fire.
This is true, but millenials are too cucked for this to be possible. Most importantly, too atomized. It would take just a few 5-men cells to do something real good, but that's never happening when you can't even trust people you call "friends" with paying you back for the $50 you lent them for gas, when they wouldn't be caught dead lending you a dime for anything.
Now show the entire history of the United States
I like how in this graph, the decline very clearly begins in the mid-70s, but they put Reagan's face there with the arrow
I like how they pretend it's the "top 5%" and not the ~~*top .01%*~~ so that they can say that self-employed electricians are the problem
When courts made it so welfare programs had to serve black people as well, rich white people just took it away from everyone and poor whites cheered as they collapsed further into poverty
>family income
dropped
I actually think 2007-2013 was pure kino, and I'm a 38 year old boomer.
You will be saying the same exact thing about 2020s in the next decade because things are only going to get worse from here on out
What would 2010s allow you to do today that you can't do now?
Definitely the peak of yt people
okkusenman
OKKUSENMAN
90s revival when?
As soon as Greta Gerwig reads my screenplay and gives me a blowjob.
>Greta Gerwig
Extremely refined and based taste anon
the 90s weren't the peak of American civilizatio-ACK.
In the 90s this was probably worth 100k.
>sold 96, 215,000 USD
Ah I'm moronic and misread the chart. Pay me no mind.
>Median household income in California was $40,000 in 1996
Silicon Valley is one hell of a drug. Unlimited Pajeet Works.
That's why all the those Spielberg movies were about everyday average lower middle class white kids in California and they were relatable.
That's about the same as now according to official inflation estimates
what about that house price?
Yeah house prices are crazy now I'm just saying $40k then was likely the same or better standard of living in today's dollars
>I'm just saying $40k then was likely the same or better standard of living in today's dollars
Except it's not because housing cost takes a much bigger % of your total income, brainlet.
So as stated, $40k a year was as good then or better than the $80k median now
You are so fricking stupid
And that’s why our society is going to shit. People won’t care as as long as their lives are decent and there’s room for growth, people making money, buying houses, starting families. But when the economic conditions get bad people get angsty over pointless shit. I haven’t once seen a troony irl yet its constantly being argued about everywhere
I regularly see two in my small town of <20k, and they're the obvious men trying to pass as women while blatantly failing, who knows however many more there are that do a better job of blending in.
I've gone from seeing one every 5 years or so to maybe one a year. This is a more rural area so likely much healthier than the rest of the country. Still too many.
Idk where you live or if I got lucky but I live in a medium sized city on the east coast and haven’t seen one once. Maybe I’m hanging out in the right spots idk. Either way it’s pretty low on my list of concerns of things I want my legislator to spend time on.
Half the medium income, tenth of the price. What's your point?
?
>a house in Laguna fricking Beach was only 4x household income
That's insane.
Hahaha wow funny tweet dude I'm gonna screencap it man his tweets are so witty and funny! He's a funny Twitter guy who makes you think wow
The world quite literally peaked in the 1950s. It's been a steep decline since then.
He's right though. Late 90's was the peak of humanity
>High tech enough, without having to be perpetually always online like we are now. A perfect balance.
>Sexism was still OK
>The male gaze was still OK
>In fact very little woke crap
>No troonys in real life
>Anytime troonys were in media, they were shown as dangerous mentally ill psychopaths or disgusting gays (Silence of the Lambs. Ace Ventura)
And I could go on
>Minorities knew to stay in their own lane
I miss white America
there is basically a 1:1 correlation with national happiness metrics going down at the same rate as "diversity" and social leftism go up
Or there’s a decrease in social cohesion and arguing over meaningless bullshit as economic conditions worsen for the middle class.
To be fair diversity is actually genuinely a bad thing and harms the country and the country. There was a study done and the more diversity a neighborhood had the less community involvement there was and the less people trusted each other. Then of course there is the fact that hispanics and blacks commit high amounts of crime and are low IQ, neither of which are good.
harms the people and the country*
>diversity
I’m sure you mean racial diversity specifically but that could be any type of diversity, which illustrates the issue and implies the solution. The army is incredibly racially diverse yet there’s basically no in-fighting despite how “conservative” the average serviceman is. That’s because there is a strong set of guiding principles and order amongst that racially diverse set.
The “in-group” could be anything. In the case of the US I’d say it’s more of an issue how diverse peoples morals and lifestyles are. Society is changing extremely fast due to the internet and globalization and it’s starting to stress the bonds that used to join nations together.
You have half the country who thinks the other half is literal demons in human skin, and basically vice versa. Massive waves of immigration is pretty much the norm for the US, but the difference today is that there’s no strong central culture for them to be pulled into and naturalized.
Look at Mexican immigrants into Texas, one or two generations and they’re a bunch of Dallas Cowboy fans who drive Fords and eat BBQ from Costco, then go vote Republican to keep the Mexicans out. Strong cultures absorb immigrants, weaker/more segmented cultures don’t.
No, its racial diversity specifically
>the army
Really?
>massive immigration us the norm
First of all, no it isn't to the degree it has been
Second of all, visual differences are the problem here. Everyone vaguely detesting Germans or Italians is different than the visceral differences from race, which happen to bear out as greater genetic distance as well
A simple google search would tell you how wrong you are. Adjusted for percent of population we’re not even that high right now. Stop letting media panic you into selling them your attention
>graph stops at 2012
check'd, I'm sure nothing has changed in 11 years, r-right?
>then go vote Republican to keep the Mexicans out
They don't. ALL types of non-whites vote blue in the majority. The only race that votes majority red is whites.
>The “in-group” could be anything
No it can't. We have genetic preference for our own. No one is going to give their life to protect their "in-group" who likes Marvel movies.
>Massive waves of immigration is pretty much the norm for the US
Wrong. Also there's a huge difference between white immigrants (who the US is for) and non-white "immigrants" who are just invaders.
>but the difference today is that there’s no strong central culture for them to be pulled into and naturalized.
BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION AND DIVERSITY YOU STUPID FRICKING TWAT!
>Look at Mexican immigrants into Texas, one or two generations and they’re a bunch of Dallas Cowboy fans who drive Fords and eat BBQ from Costco, then go vote Republican to keep the Mexicans out
Yeah maybe 20 years ago. Now they don't speak English and vote for gibs. Why? BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM!
Imagine being such a newbie you havent read the putnam study
Commie moron
Leftism becomes more attractive the poorer people get, yes.
leftism as a philosophy *actively* makes people more miserable, yes
this tbqh famm
Now this webm is begging for a
>from the twisted mind of Jordan Peele...
I don't
T. Serb
N-NO! YOU LE ONLY REMEMBER THE GOOD THINGS, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO AGAINST MY BULLSHIT THEORY
>Le perfect balance
>Ignore that things were changing, they were perfect, we should have kept things the same!
You're wrong about some of these points too but it doesn't matter. It was impossible to keep them the same. You aren't talking about a stable society of farmers and lords, the reason the 90s were so wealthy and exciting is because of massive changes. Those same changes kept going and destroyed their temporary fruits because no shit they did
The amount of people autistically focusing on the LA riots when it was the Crown Heights riot which is the entire reason why blacks think police is le bad (israeli manipulation after the riots rekkd orthodox neighborhoods )…..
These people would willingly shut themselves into the Martrix and stop any attempt to become redpilled. They’re al willing agent smiths and they think they’re neo
The year 2000 felt so cool when it happened. I'd like to live in that year forever.
It's a shame Y2K (the style, not the bug) didn't continue for a while longer
I only hope the current styles die soon, but given that they were chosen for their cost, I can't imagine that happening without a substantial revolution.
Y2k is back, it's just being modeled by gay trannies
>The Matrix described 1999 as the peak of human civilization
no it didn't
I sincerely hope that the people who keeps making everything worse for the past 2 decades are going to experience something very horrible
90s had great video games. Snes, genesis. ps1, n64 and gameboy.
never met an american adult in my life who didn't think life was better in the 20th century
You just never see soul like this anymore. Corporate israelites try to suck the life out of everything.
Were 90s video games actually good or do boomers just hype them up?
Kind of. They were clunky shit until the late 90s and early 2000s.
Yes. All of these games were released in 1998 ALONE. In fact, Starcraft 1 was released in 1998 and 9 months later they released Starcraft: Brood War.
Thats pretty crazy. How come 90s had way more high profile games coming out in a single year? Nowadays you dont really get more than a handful in as year
For every StarCraft, Half Life, and Quake III Arena, there is a Submarine Titans, Daikatana, and Postal II.
What are you even implying? Starcraft and daikatana were both great, for example.
Also this isn't even an argument. There is 0 good videogame nowadays. The fact there were more than 0 before is a hell of a difference. Both the signal to noise ratio and the actual signal were better. Now we only have pure noise.
>Daikatana
>great
Opinion discarded.
The simple answer is indie games weren't really a thing and high profile games were made relatively cheaper with a much smaller staff. It wasn't until the HD Era that a staff over 50 was even heard of, now they balloon to well over 100 regularly. For example, Doom was made by six people, while Super Mario 64 and Starcraft was around 20.
Just remember that it's A peak, not THE peak. Civilizations come & go.
Quake 3 and counter-strike had just been released, so yeah.
90s video games had based music
>based, pilled, as well as, keyed take.
i agree, before 9/11 the world was a simpler place, no soviet union, american hegemony at it's highest, the world was ours
90s did see the dotcom bubble and subsequent crash that was so bad the nasdaq didn't recover for a decade. Albeit that was at the very end of the decade. Music revenues also peaked right before file-sharing and pirating music became more commonplace, so shows were bigger and better at the time arguably. Prosperity has still shown to increase in non-shithole countries since then so hard to say.
Let us not overlook our fallen brothers.
SEGA arguably got the best digits by launching the Dreamcast on 9/9/99 for $199.99
That image needs to be change to reflect this.
Everything negative you are experiencing socially is the end result of economic corruption. It begins with hijacking the issue of currency and ends with everyone owning nothing and being always one paycheck away from homelessness. A population with nothing to lose is dangerous to those in power, but a population left with table scraps can still be controlled. Because international banks control currency, politics are an undrainable swamp of corruption and the economy is no longer competitive, which allows them to push radical propaganda and unwanted laws no matter how much the population is against it.
The purpose of propaganda isn't necessarily to convince everyone of their message but merely to muddy the dialogue of society and fracture any chance of social cohesion which translates into positive political action. If the control of currency were taken away from banks, all of these issues would be unconsciously solved in time simply because banks would lose their ability to control industries and fund politics. People, instead of investors, would control what happens in the economy, influence politics and maintain reasonable society.
Politics in America are no longer the domain of the educated elite, but lifestyle products tailored to the psychological needs of the consumer. Banks and economics and the clever erosion of freedom by a thousand paper cuts are boring to the average person, relying on abstractions built on abstractions. But sell them a story where they are the hero fighting against a system ruled by unjust oppressors, and now you have their attention.
2012 involved the selling of narratives on a massive scale, narratives with specific enemies, narratives which presented the recipient as the hero of society's story. But since if everyone is a hero no one is, these narratives were inherently zero sum.
Even camping is fricking expensive for some reason now.
Anyone still talking about politics in terms of right and left is a complete moron.
You are a calculated part of their system you fricking idiot. Look past the curtain.
its even quantifiable
Why is the number so high for everyone though, I'm thinking shrinks are bullshit half of the time or americans are really this mentally I'll in proportion?
That combines men and women. There's another chart I don't have on hand that separates by sex.
>Why is the number so high for everyone though
Because modern society is a sick anti-human system enforced into being by never-ending competition, and on top of that, our civilization is dying. No community. No meaning, just surrogate activities.
Because
2) mental illness is profitable, all those pills cost money. It's really the same reason there are so many trannies now, they make a lot of money through the surgeries and hormones and antidepressants.
2) mental illness is trendy now, everyone claims to be depressed when they're just a little bit sad.
Democrat and republican would be moronic
Left and right are measurable
You are a literal moron.
That's like so deep and like sheeeit
>Almost every Western nation is experiencing the largest cost of living increase while simultaneously importing hundreds of thousands of migrants from SE Asia to prop up the Boomer class
I honestly don't think there's a worst era in our history besides the Great Depression/Dust Bowl era
its almost like they have an agenda against White countries
Funny thing is that during the Depression the world acknowledged how fricked everything was. Now what's happening to us is marketed as a good thing, the problem is YOU for not thinking it's good.
It was the peak. Handfuls of media after 1999 dont help prove that 1999 wasnt the peak of civilization
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90s had the best music lets be real
All of those albums are really fricking gay and shit.
Hahaha ass mad boomer
I remember voting in that poll. I tried to get way more metal in but Cinemaphile is just too pozzed.
The 20 years from 1990 to 2010 is the best chunk of music all around with every genre putting out solid work.
This all started because we gave women rights. It was easily the worst decision humanity has ever made as a whole.
>using keyed in June of 2023
>SMOSHED
Very smoched
Just in time for the Smosh reunion, things are looking good for SMOSHED bros
Radical
This all started with the invention of the air fryer. Patriotic Americans used to grill their steaks on the barbeque like a god-fearing American would but now millennial scared of a little smoke? Blasphemous
basically ive been thinking this on every rewatch since 2014
it was funny to scoff at in the 00s but then we got obama 2nd term and everything went off the deep end
Hi
The internet is the big differentiator. Information can spred fast but negative and unhealthy information spreads through the population like wildfire when released. Like a virus.
The crazy thing is we are at the exact same moment in time with A.I. as we were with the internet back in 99'. Like even the people that thought the internet would be the absolute biggest thing ever still underestimated how big it would be.
Two things. "Viruses" (ie intracellular parasites) do not exist, except for mental ones. "AI" is 99% hype, to pump up the market, and 1% actual tech. We had "AI" since computers were invented.
This isva dishonest post. Stop using semantics to win your internet fisticuffs.
I have seen this before with the internet of the 90's. Everybody thougt the internet would be big in the 90's. So much so that a barely there startup like AOL highly valuated enough to actually buy Time Warner which at the time was prbably the biggest media company in the world. So yeah people thought the internet would be big and they STILL underestimated how huge and ubiquitous it would be. That is because the use cases werent there yet. No iphone, no social media as we now know it and no all encompassing google big data tracking everyone on Earth.
A.I.is at the same spot right now as the internet was in the 90's. People arent prepared for the game changing use case that hasnt been invented yet but will alter everything.
2016 was the last good year
I did not vote for Trump but he would have gotten reelected handily if it wasnt for the coof.
I specifically remember 2019 being pretty gud times and unexpectedly based. Its just really hard to separate the kino world of 2019 from the world hitting the wood chipper at full speed almost exactly three months later.
2016-2019 will be remembered as the last great years of America
Ted was right.
The issue with nostalgia over the 90's is that it's like a man who has fallen off a cliff and who is nearing the bottom having nostalgia over the time when he was only halfway down. The roots of our modern day problems were growing and would sprout unless somehow contained.
Usual twitter arm chair philosopher but not technically wrong. From 2000 after, everything seems to be in a spiral of just remake the old stuff because the new stuff isn't good. There are good new stuff if you search hard enough but it's drowned out by the remakes, remasters and re-imaginings of the classics. It seems like we are in a cultural stagnation and nobody is taking the risk to break the mold.
>It seems like we are in a cultural stagnation and nobody is taking the risk to break the mold.
It's worse, the new ideas are being ignored by the public.
It takes about 15 to 20 years for a previous decades cultural identity to become readily appearant. While you're in it everything just seems plain and set to 'default'. I remember thinking at the time that the 80's had no discernable style because that's just how things were.
You can't judge by that standard now
80s might as well be neolithic
milennial
zoomer
>80's
>millenial
wat?
Stupida facking zoomer
I think you have your generations confused Anon.
Look up the milennial birth year range, moron.
Nobody BORN in the 80's was thinking about the greater existental cultural identity of the decade.
Yes they do as the new decade approaches. I've had the same exact thought myself.
the 80s was basically 1970s new game plus with shitty synthesizer pop music and pretending everyone is rich
>no one is breaking the mold
Just because you only watch marvel movies doesn’t mean the rest of us do
Name five non-capeshit movies from the past five years.
>peak of human civilisation
>not the 14th century
>peak of human civilization
>not SPQR
It's the peak because absolutely nobody will be able to reach it after us due to loss of cheap fossil fuels.
In two generations post zoomer zoomers will not have boilogical children. To fulfill the need to pass on their legacy private citizens will raise custom built A.I.'s prgrammed and taught to carry on their legacy and personal values into future generations.
Also a male and female nuclear family having and raising an actual boilogical child to use as anything other than a sex toy will be considered anti-lgbtq+ and immoral. Screencap this.
I think 2016 was the pinnacle of human civilization.
Am I really supposed to sit here and just pretend that after living on this planet for over 30 years that people have not constantly complained about every single fricking generation and every single era in American history?
My great grandparents literally lived through two world wars. Stop exaggerating. My grandparents and parents lived through the Cold War. Knock it off and stop being doomers about fricking everything
burn
Civilization peaked in 1914 and it's days have been numbered ever since.
>clubbed to death starts playing
Thats the date the matrix resets back to 91
pic very much related.
I see you disgusting fricks smoke like chimneys on the street all the time. You stink.
>times were better when I was moronic and unaware
There were no hot transgirls in 1999
so, the same
>twitter screencap thread
have a nice day
The 00s weren't perfect but the past decade feels like a genuinely sick and confused society. Like a person before and after contracting some illness
Yes, but only because evolution of the internet and smartphones set in motion during the 2000s put the world onto a death spiral. Perpetual 1990s is the most advanced setting with stability.
The pre-covid world sucks and I never want to go back.
Post-covid, I work 3 hours a day and jerk off 5 times a day. I get paid for 40 hours a week. Life is beautiful right now.
It's pretty obvious that America reached its peak in the couple decades after the war then began declining, slowly at first and then faster and faster
It would have been much better to grow up in the 50s - 80s than the 90s, but the 90s were still much, much better than now. And it will only get worse and worse
We used to be a country. A proper country.