I prefer batman as a somewhat street level guy solving mysteries and crime. When he's battling supervillains and world ending threats it sometimes doesn't interest me
>When he's battling supervillains and world ending threats it sometimes doesn't interest me
Batman should just go back to full on smaller scale detective stories. Anytime he steps out of those boundaries it just becomes unreadable garbage.
>When he's battling supervillains and world ending threats it sometimes doesn't interest me
Batman should just go back to full on smaller scale detective stories. Anytime he steps out of those boundaries it just becomes unreadable garbage.
It would be fine if he would be wearing bat power armor and after the battle he be severely beaten up/injured to drive home being a normal human fighting powerful beings has consequences. Kinda like how guts uses the berserk armor and is immediately fricked up after using it
>When he's battling supervillains and world ending threats it sometimes doesn't interest me
Batman should just go back to full on smaller scale detective stories. Anytime he steps out of those boundaries it just becomes unreadable garbage.
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It would be fine if he would be wearing bat power armor and after the battle he be severely beaten up/injured to drive home being a normal human fighting powerful beings has consequences. Kinda like how guts uses the berserk armor and is immediately fricked up after using it
nah. The problem with Batman is he has to put up with shitty DC characters instead of do his cool supernatural detective supergenius thing. Instead they make him fight gorilla grodd or whatever. A truly street level Batman doesn't make sense when the wealth, training, and intellect are taken into consideration
the first 6 golden age trades.
Ditto to Batman Adventures/Gotham Adventures though be aware that only Batman Adventures has been properly collected in tpbs.
Gardner Fox's 60s run, including JLA.
Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams stuff, Tales of the Demon collects most of the League of Shadows stuff.
I'm a big fan of the Gerry Conway and Len Wein runs. Englehart was great but he wrote like 7 issues, not a huge run whatsoever.
Starlin is fricking overrated.
Morrison's stuff is like if Gardner Fox and Denny O'Neill's respective ideas of Batman were put in a particle accelerator. My favorite Morrison Batman story would probably be Gothic.
The first 4 issues of Shadow of the Bat are epic.
Stuff like Knightfall, No Man's Land and War Games are mostly decompressed pieces of schlock, though I'm a sucker for the Contagion-Legacy-Cataclysm chain.
If you like supernatural Batman stuff like me instead of the modern "misunderstanding Miller's intent" Daredevil-lite recreation, I'd check out Matt Wagner's reinterpretations of the first 12 or so Batman stories, Dark Moon Rising, as well as Gotham County Line, Dark Knight Dark City, Morrison's entire contribution starting with Arkham Asylum, all the way through Return of Bruce Wayne.
It's become conventional to hate on Morrison because he's a gay or whatever but he's really the only competent post-crisis Batwriter outside of the BTAS/Adventures people.
Also if you read DK2/All-Star Batman and Robin and find yourself hating it, I probably hate you.
Dark Knight Returns, Year One, The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Killing Joke, and Arkham Asylum are the ultra-obvious ones.
If you want to read more "normal" in continuity stories >No Man's Land >Hush >Under the Red Hood >Grant Morrison 2000s run >Batman and Robin by Peter J. Tomasi
The entire 20+ year post crisis era is the only thing worth reading about Batman.
Strange Apparitions by Englehart
Detective Comics by Paul Dini (and basically all the stuff collected in the Batman By Paul Dini Omnibus)
The Batman Adventures and Batman: Gotham Adventures (DCAU comics)
Stuff by Matt Wagner. Wagner, Dini, and Moench are solid.
Batman: The Long Halloween and Dark Victory
Detective Comics #457
TDKR
Batman: The Cult
Batman & Dracula: Red Rain
There are a fair few misses in Post-Crisis. Generous portions of it are worse than the average Bronze Age comic.
I prefer batman as a somewhat street level guy solving mysteries and crime. When he's battling supervillains and world ending threats it sometimes doesn't interest me
>When he's battling supervillains and world ending threats it sometimes doesn't interest me
Batman should just go back to full on smaller scale detective stories. Anytime he steps out of those boundaries it just becomes unreadable garbage.
>Batman should just go back to full on smaller scale detective stories.
my man he was fighting vampires like 3 stories in.
It would be fine if he would be wearing bat power armor and after the battle he be severely beaten up/injured to drive home being a normal human fighting powerful beings has consequences. Kinda like how guts uses the berserk armor and is immediately fricked up after using it
He's jobbed multiple times in suits. Still doesn't make it any less moronic and uninteresting.
nah. The problem with Batman is he has to put up with shitty DC characters instead of do his cool supernatural detective supergenius thing. Instead they make him fight gorilla grodd or whatever. A truly street level Batman doesn't make sense when the wealth, training, and intellect are taken into consideration
It makes sense considering his shitty comics right now.
Just these. That's it. Nothing else.
I was a big fan of no mans land.
The Doom that Came to Gotham is a mediocre but very fun read
the first 6 golden age trades.
Ditto to Batman Adventures/Gotham Adventures though be aware that only Batman Adventures has been properly collected in tpbs.
Gardner Fox's 60s run, including JLA.
Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams stuff, Tales of the Demon collects most of the League of Shadows stuff.
I'm a big fan of the Gerry Conway and Len Wein runs. Englehart was great but he wrote like 7 issues, not a huge run whatsoever.
Starlin is fricking overrated.
Morrison's stuff is like if Gardner Fox and Denny O'Neill's respective ideas of Batman were put in a particle accelerator. My favorite Morrison Batman story would probably be Gothic.
The first 4 issues of Shadow of the Bat are epic.
Stuff like Knightfall, No Man's Land and War Games are mostly decompressed pieces of schlock, though I'm a sucker for the Contagion-Legacy-Cataclysm chain.
If you like supernatural Batman stuff like me instead of the modern "misunderstanding Miller's intent" Daredevil-lite recreation, I'd check out Matt Wagner's reinterpretations of the first 12 or so Batman stories, Dark Moon Rising, as well as Gotham County Line, Dark Knight Dark City, Morrison's entire contribution starting with Arkham Asylum, all the way through Return of Bruce Wayne.
It's become conventional to hate on Morrison because he's a gay or whatever but he's really the only competent post-crisis Batwriter outside of the BTAS/Adventures people.
Also if you read DK2/All-Star Batman and Robin and find yourself hating it, I probably hate you.
ASBAR was great. DK2 was dogshit. I bet you like Holy Terror too.
Dark Knight Returns, Year One, The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Killing Joke, and Arkham Asylum are the ultra-obvious ones.
If you want to read more "normal" in continuity stories
>No Man's Land
>Hush
>Under the Red Hood
>Grant Morrison 2000s run
>Batman and Robin by Peter J. Tomasi
Batman: Gothic by Grant Morrison and Batman: Year 100 by Paul Pope are both really good
Batman Adventures 1992 to 2004 run, better than the cartoon.
*worse than the cartoon
>Hasn't read.