>episode ends with massive cliffhanger
>waits 7 weeks for part 2
>everything gets solved in the next episode
did Vince really?
BCS S06E08
>episode ends with massive cliffhanger
>waits 7 weeks for part 2
>everything gets solved in the next episode
did Vince really?
Gus obtained superpowers, too. Impressive, Vince.
>dude why wasn't Lalo killed by a coalition of avengers from the Gilliganverse to take him on like Thanos
I hate Marvelgays so much it's unreal
>make a prequel with several new interesting characters
>kill them all off
>all that's left is characters that we know will live to the sequel
riveting
>portal opens
>it's the multiverse
>no stakes. anybody can die now
That is not big problem. Problem is if you do it 5 episodes before end of the show. Without Howard and Lalo there is nothing left. And if they realy replaced Jeff actor, i won't even watch it anymore.
>Without Howard and Lalo there is nothing left
>Walt and Jesse will make an appearance
>Gus still poses a threat to Saul/Kim now that they know too much
>Saul/Kim's relationship will break down whether through their own conflict or by someone killing Kim presumably
>Saul still has yet to transform to BrBa Saul + remodel his office to the BrBa office (Statue of Liberty inflatable, BrBa office w/ the US constitution plastered on the walls). We will probably see Betsy and her simp husband one last time
>Finish up Gene storyline and how he deals with being spotted (presumably, he'll be alright like Jesse in El Camino)
WHY THE FRICK WAS THE SO SUPRISED???
And why the FRICK would Mike still work as an PI for someone like Saul?
Good. The Howard discrediting plot and the cartelshit are the worst parts of the show
>lalo is dead
>Howard is dead
>5 episodes to kill
>cue “Weird Matt” Salamanca
>literal cartel members are killed
shocking
>Chuck
>Howard
>Fred
which cartel was that again?
there were a lot of characters introduced in the law business. yea chuck and howard were the main ones but its not like their deaths were meaningless, they each had a part in turning saul into the person he is in bb
fred deserved it
>characters in the sequel don’t die in the prequel
No fricking shit, what did you expect?
good writing
Not to kill all-new characters?
>have to kill Howard because he isn't mentioned in BB
What should have happened was that Jimmy and Kimmy's stupid fricking plan should have failed, and the Howard should have said to them "I am filing for a restraining order, do not ever come near HHM or contact any of our employees ever again." And then Jimmy throws Kim under the bus for the crime and she goes to prison.
Not my call
thank christ you're not writing this
Yeah we don't want something remotely realistic now
>chemistry teacher turns into a drug kingpin
>mercury grenade
>Walter causes a plane collision by not rolling Jane on her side
>meth empire hidden by fried chicken restaurant chain owned by German conglomerate
>wheelchair bomb
>bomb victim walks out and straightens his tie with half his face blown off
>machine gun in a car trunk
BrBa and BCS are cartoons. They're crime capeshit. Nothing wrong with that. But don't try to insert realism where it doesn't belong.
That would unironically undo eons of character and plot development please never suggest anything like that again thx
Yeah but the plot and character development suck so it doesn't really matter
Jimmy died when he got his licence back, now there is only Saul
>>all that's left is characters that we know will live to the sequel
fricking KIM is the one that people care the most about to know why she's gone
Yeah it's kinda weird if the guy in the next TV show had a secret wife that he told no one about, of course we're curious how Vince is gonna kill her.
Saul does mention in BB that she has a ex wife.
Vince is a huge mangina, he is not gonna kill her.
>B-But he killed Lydia
Lydia was unambiguosly a villain, and she got probably the cleanest, less brutal death in the franchise.
Jane.
True, I forgot about a Jane (Andrea too, but can you blame me? not even Jesse remembers her)
I only remember her as "Brock's mom".
Huell eats her
>Cliff, Rich, Kettlemans, Kevin, Vet etc. live
>nooooooo they killed all the new characters offfffff
At first I thought
>there’s not much more to do other than cover up Howie’s death and for Gus to get disappointed in Gil, we’re already in BB timeline (2008)
But then I realized
>Howie’s D-Day is in 2004
How tf do they plan to show Walt and Jesse 3-4 years before the show starts? What could that possibly add to their characters?
What are time jumps guy
Dude we’ve all seen breaking bad
Would someone who hasn't watched BB like BCS?
I watched BCS first up to season 3 before starting breaking bad and I liked it.
>tfw Vince did not introduce the multiverse on the Gilliganverse for the prequel
What a hack
also, why did Lalo tie up Jimmy, but not fricking Gus? just throw him a pair of handcuffs while pointing the gun at him
He tied Jimmy up because he left the apartment and couldn't keep pointing a gun at him.
I know, my point is that he ONLY tied up Jimmy and not Gus
Didn't have any cable ties left. He only took 5 for Jimmy.
HEY GOMIE YOU ICE DODGING BEAN MUNCHER IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN I FIND YOU TAKING EL SIESTA ON THE JOB AGAIN HAHA NO SERIOUSLY GONNA MISS YOU BROTHER
Why did Lalo tell Kim to kill Mike's guy? Is it because he was black?
yes, lalo is a huge racist. thats why he calls mike "gringo" all the time. you see, "gringo" is a derogative term for white people.
I'm triggered, for mike that is.
>calls Mike a gringo pelón
>calls Jimmy a chichifo
>There's a dead guy in Kim's apartment
>Jimmy and Kim are traumatised at what happened
>Mike decides that giving them a new fridge will make it better
What the frick happened here? What a strange leap in logic
>he's never been given a stainless steel fridge
it helps, anon
Where did Mike get a new fridge (stainless at that) in the middle of the night? Did he buy it before the trouble with Lalo and just forgot to gift it to him? Very strange how he decided that this particular night was the time to give them the gift
In the land of the free you can find 24h services for everything.
He's got a fridge guy.
to remove howard’s body from the apartment in the old fridge
Why didn't they put the body in the new fridge? Would've been easier than clearing out the new fridge. You've got to leave those things running for a few hours before putting stuff in them
>Why didn't they put the body in the new fridge?
They literally did
Fricking speedwatchers I swear
They put the body in the old fridge tho, you can see the guy clearing out the old fridge
>Why didn't they put the body in the new fridge?
Because that would be extremely suspicious? Theres cameras and shit recording, if you exchange the fridges it just looks like a normal fridge delivery with the old one being discarded by the company. Learn to think, brainlet
>Theres cameras and shit recording
And it's not suspicious that 7 solid guys delivered a fridge in the middle of the night over a period of 3 hours?
>And it's not suspicious that 7 solid guys delivered a fridge in the middle of the night over a period of 3 hours?
They delivered it in the morning moron. But I agree the storming of the house at night with the "we don't want to disturb Le neighbors" was pretty hilarious and a plot contrivance kek. Dunno what Vince was thinking there
>They delivered it in the morning moron
They delivered it at around 5am, speed watcher
>delivered it at around 5am
>5am isn't morning
Burgers, not even once
So like literally every tv show? Once again I'm not defending Vince, but for shit like this you have to suspend your disbelief from time to time
There's suspending disbelief and then there's outright ignoring internal logic
>sopranos exists
>plot contrivancessafilafilifa thingmajiggs worse than BB/BCS
>Cinemaphile Considers it le kino best tv show of all time
>Cinemaphile Considers BB/BCS one of the worst shows of all time
Nice cope, but your show just sucks and you’re too low IQ to understand that.
Please list 20 contrivances in the sopranos
any time some sort of surreal thing leads to a revelation like tony's fish dream
If you weren't consuming goyslop 24/7 your dreams would also bring about revelation in your life
The only one that even comes close to supporting your argument is the heart attack. Especially that fingerprints one I actually laughed when I read that and watched the clip
LIKE I SAID THATS WHAT I REMEMBERED AND I ALREADY FORGOT MOST OF THE SHOW STOP TRYING TO PRETEND THAT SOPRANOS IS ANY BETTER. IN FACT ITS ACTUALLY SO MUCH WORSE.
NOT JUST ONE BUT TWO CHARACTERS LITERALLY HAVING A SUDDEN HEART ATTACK BECAUSE THE WRITERS ARE HACKS SEASON # WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IF THE GUY ON THE TOILET DIDNT SUDDENLY DIE. SHIT IS FRICKING CARTOONISH. FRICK OFF AND DONT COME TO BB THREADS AND GENERALS YOU HYPOCRITICAL PRICK
Nah sorry but it's not even remotely the same. Get over your shit show, the downfall of BCS will be spoken about for years
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SOPRANOS IS ALREADY FORGOTTEN. BB/BCS IS STILL REMEMBERED AND BELOVED EVEN BY ZOOMER homosexualS. BB/BCS WILL STILLL BE TALKED ABOUT WHEN ALL SOPRANO VIEWERS DIE OFF. YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT EXCEPT CONTINIUING TO MALD AND SEETHE IN BB THREADS.
>sopranos is already forgotten
No? What an absurd statement to make
>Bb/bcs is still talked about
Almost like it's still on tv. Your show sucks and everyone is realizing it, even diehard fans.
Yeah salt tastes sour
sugar is fricking bitter
and chili tastes sweet
Sopranos is better and less contrived, sorry kid
>If you weren't consuming goyslop 24/7 your dreams would also bring about revelation in your life
now this is some cope
>t. Goyslop consumer
My dreams are always relevant to my life. I guess I simply operate on a higher level than you
>If you weren't consuming goyslop 24/7 your dreams would also bring about revelation in your life
did you suddenly get struck by mid-life crisis? where did this projection come from LMAO
Give examples.
>Mobster killing people in broad daylight (havent rewatched the show but im pretty sure theres more than 10 instances of this)
>characters having a heart attack when the plot requires them to (the old mobster having a heart attack before ratting out is the wackiest thing ever)
>Paulie stabbing the columbian not leaving any fingerprints https://youtu.be/SiShU2Sa0M4 (he didnt wipe it afterwards)
and many more i probably forgot because its been 6 years since i watched the show.
The killings were done behind closed doors. Tony kills that guy in College but its tucked away and no one is around. They hire the blacks to do shootings too, so it doesn't go back to them. Worst thing was probably in the pilot, when Tony and Chris run that guy over and beat him up with witnesses around. That's pilot issues though.
I only remember two heart attacks and the one you're talking about is for a guy who was ratting for years.
Paulie one is fair.
Again, errors, contrivances etc. are to be expected but BCS goes above and beyond.
>Paulie one is fair
How? Criminals aren't going to report this to the police... it was a place to count laundered money. The guy died and that's it, nothing came of it because nothing comes of it when you die in a fricking criminal enterprise
People might have heard the fighting and went out to look, then call police. It was only one room in an apartment right?
>killings were done behind close doors
the main character literally killing someone in broad daylight
To be fair to the other anon, Season 1 was a lot more sloppy about this sort of stuff, they're a little too open about more of their crimes. You could argue that it kinda works with some of the themes of the show, where Tony decides he needs to insulate himself more. But it was mostly just sloppy writing for the first season of a show nobody was expecting to be a big hit.
Daylight killings continue to happen throughout the whole series, but they (usually) have a little more thought put into the context (eg. done by hired goons, done out of the way of public eye, etc).
let me tell you something. im not even bothered by this stuff but what ticks me off is everytime someone criticizes BB/BCS theyre usually a soprano viewer, every single time the only criticism you guys dish out is MUH REALISM CONTRIVANCES!!!, and every single one ignores the fact that sopranos had those things but even worse. thats what ticks me off.
the difference is that the plot isnt the main focus in The Sopranos whereas it is in BCS/BB
Literally what has Sopranos done that's close to the BS in BCS
nothing in BB/BCS tops the heart attack one except maybe the airplane arc. and sopranos literally does this asspull TWICE
Heart attacks on old unhealthy stressed out men are hardly contrived. You don't really know what the words you use mean
but a heart attack when hes about to rat on tony is.
Contrivances and coincidences are fine in small doses, often they are needed to create surprise, drama, stakes. This show takes the piss.
I can't think of a single show, except maybe Lost, which requires the audience to turn off their brain as much as BB/BCS. For a character written drama, even questioning a little about why certain characters don't act logically absolutely breaks the plot in several regards
I was fine until this episode, honestly. It broke all internal logic.
>Gus deciding to go to the Laundromat, Lalo's target, without telling Mike
>Not a single one of Mike's guys, supposedly solid and vetted by Mike himself (no offense) thought to inform Mike of Gus's location, ie, the person they're protecting, on the 20 minute drive to the laundromat
>None of Mike's guys checking the safety of the laundromat before allowing Gus in, and not a single one securing the perimeter or watching their back
>Mike taking point on the storming of Jimmy and Kim's apartment
I could go on, this episode was fricked
What kind of company deliver heavy equipment at 5 in the morning?
Have you ever work in any furniture stores or work delivery?
Exactly, ya brainlet
My comment was meant to reply to the guy that said the fridge delivery at 5am is not suspicious, anon.
Well Why'd you reply to me ya wet noodle?
Someone posted yesterday that the BB/BCS writing depends on convenience and contrivances and doesn't stand up to even the most basic questioning/scrutiny. Honestly a bit fricky.
Because 12 solid guys dressed in all black all rushing into one apartment is not suspicious at all.
Maybe they were invited to a orgy
it was nighttime. Most people are not looking out of windows during the night.
>Theres cameras and shit recording
If there’s camera, they are fricked anyway. Because the camera will show
>Howard went in
>Lalo went in
>Kim left
>Lalo left
>Mike and his 20 good men went in
>Mike and his 20 good men left with an old fridge
>New fridge was delivered
You say that they stuffed Howard into an old fridge instead of a new fridge “for the camera”. Then how will they take care of the camera never shows Howard leaving the place?
Brainlet.
They'll simply say Howard is living under the bed now, he's shy and won't come out
>Because that would be extremely suspicious?
yes that would be extremely suspicious and not the 8+ guys in black clothing walking to this guy's apartment
>it just looks like a normal fridge delivery
in the middle of the night...
new fridge came in the morning
How would they explain to cops that neighbors saw a bunch of solid guys delivering a fridge into Jimmy's apartment and then leaving with the exact same one just on the same days as Howard disappeared and the last place he's been seen was said apartment?
Saul has a get out of jail free card called Breaking Bad. He'll show it to the cops.
It was in a massive cardboard box. This plan was solid
A lot easier to get over trauma when your drinks are ice cold, anon, use your head!
Mike and his guys needed to put Howards body in their OLD fridge, so Jimmy and Kim got the NEW fridge, got it now dumbfrick?
They weren’t traumatized, they had food poisoning and all of last episode was a sickness induced hallucination. Mike didn’t want it to happen again so he swapped fridges with them and gave them that spiel about Howard and the detectives so they wouldn’t have a psychotic break
Bro it’s a new fridge
>Tell the police he was chemically altered
In to what? Did Howard shapeshift?
dumb fricking speedwatcher h.o. ward's power set has included shapeshifting since the second season
What was the deal with Gus speaking to Kim? Why did he act so surprised that Jimmy talked Lalo out of the plan?
It revealed that lalo wasn't actually concerned about killing Gus. He doesn't just change his mind
>doesn't just change his mind
He does all the time tho.
>Changed his plan on a dime after speaking to Hector
>Changed his plan about storming the Laundromat on a dime
>Changed his plan about getting evidence on a dime because Gus turned up
Lalo is a loose canon.
You idiot, if circumstances change, Lalo will adapt, but he's not going to do something just because somebody tells him to. He's even going against cartel instructions by investigating Gus in the first place
>he's not going to do something just because somebody tells him to.
But Hector told him to change his plan cabron lmao
It means someone had enough brain and charisma to convince someone like Lalo. He was getting interested in Jimmy
He finally learned that he truly was a Better Call Saul™
It indicates that he didn't actually want whoever went to kill gus, and that it didn't matter who got sent/who stayed, meaning that all lalo wanted was the reaction from mikes solid guys in order to draw attention away from somewhere
Everyone who thought the entire BB-verse was cringe shit for step-dads has been vindicated
i get gus is rich but is it reasonable for him to be able to buy basically a whole neighborhood blocks worth of shit for the germans?
To be fair what else do you see him spending cash on? Suits? His house is probably easily paid for and we know he's getting multiple $1m dollar drops a week
He has no family, nothing but his long term revenge scheme. He's also getting all those dead drops every week
Why are people acting as though Lalo wasn't going to die and Gus wasn't going to live? We know the outcomes, Lalo isn't the main character of the show Saul is
>Why are people acting as though Lalo wasn't going to die and Gus wasn't going to live?
Not at all. It just seems a little rich getting rid of Lalo in such a black and white way, especially when Gus has been written as the kind of person who draws out his revenge. Thought for sure the twist was going to be that Gus keeps Lalo alive until the BB timeline (ie that story about the animal he kept alive to make it suffer). It's just a little anticlimactic
gus didn't draw out the cousins' death, just walked them into a gunfight and gave their opponent advance notice. hector is a special case being the guy that shot max, just a lucky break for him that nacho fricked with his heart meds and gave him a stroke leaving him in the perfect state to be tormented
>being buried with your murderer
would you mind if this happened to you?
It's kind of poetic in a way, ngl.
I mean at that point I don’t have much say in what happens anyways, maybe they’d get to explain their actions to me before we go out separate ways out of purgatory.
There was the type of execution back then when killer was tied to his victim, so worms and all that shit would eat them both.
Why didn't Lalo get the cousins to help him get in to the laundromat? They live to the BB timeline and could've helped him a lot
Cousins thought Lalo was dead already
Why wouldn't he include them in the plan? What does Lalo gain by telling literally only the one man who can't call for backup to help the plan?
Dang.
Yeah this.
Also this
Lalo knew that the cousins are in the sequel so he couldn't ask them for help or even let them know he's alive.
he would had missed the surpise element when trying to contact them, but gus was so paranoid that it made no difference.
Hector screwed Lalo out of the surprise advantage with his smug gloating expression.
Who will be the final antagonist then?
Gus is going to kill Kimmy in some way, and Saul will do a horrendous mistake or betrayal he'll have to live with for the rest of his life.
Finally, in the epilogue we'll see Saul as that baker, when the law catches up with him regarding Howard's murder
Screencap this
I think the guilt gets to Gene and there's some kind of exchange with Mike where Mike gives a sealed letter or some shit with the location of Howard's body in the event that the guilt drives him mad. Something about the parallels between the Good Samaritan, Howard, and Hank/Homies bodies all has to thematically link together imo I'm just not sure how. There's an underlying current of innocent people getting proper closure in BCS and BB, I think Gene/Saul/Mike is going to have some reason to disclose, even anonymously, where Howard's body is.
kim and sauls guilt
*sigh*
somehow...
Chuck returned
It feeds in to BB so it's still Gus and Walt.
Kim will commit suicide
Cliff and Kim's own crippling guilt seems to be the endgame bosses.
When do we get more Gene? I’m kinda hoping that we get at least one full episode.
Of course we will. Maybe even the last 2 episodes, which gives us 4 episodes covering the final descent into Saul and BB timeline - which is PLENTY of fricking time assuming the writers don't dick around and fart sniff the entire time
2 episodes would be kino. 3 episodes to dispose of Kim and set us up for full Saul, 2 for based Gene.
>assuming the writers don't dick around and fart sniff the entire time
Thats a big assumption
Covid really fricked up their writing sessions since they couldn't sniff each other's farts
Cliffhanger? Are you frickin serious? It's the fricking opposite of a cliffhanger, they killed all the hype, what else is there to look for in this season?
the cliffhanger I'm talking about is episode 7 where Lalo kills Howard
in one episode they dealt with Lalo's impending threat, fabricated Howard's suicide, and saved Kim and Jimmy, so like you said, they killed all the hype
To be fair, the show wasn't written and shot to have that cliffhanger. AMC forced a mid-season split for Emmy cut-offs.
Yeah it was bad but I've been shaking my head at many episodes this season.
BCS cast and crew has a lot of undeniable talent (especially behind the camera) imagine if they utilized that for a new story instead of this member when bullshit breaking bad whack-off fest. I still watch the show and enjoy it but it's basically one tier below capeshit. Wish Vince had tried his hand at creating a new series instead of one where everybody who doesn't have breaking bad plot armor has to be shot in the head
Why didn’t mike order Victor and Tyrus, his most solid guys, to guard Gus?
Because they were stretched thin.
If they are stretched thin, then the logical approach is to put the best man on the most important job, ie Gus’ safety, isnt it?
>lalo told kim to put on her shoes
>Howie's shoes are taken off
B R A V O
Lalo's death was a (good) reference to BBT's in Fargo. Go watch them both again and thank me later
So what did they do with Guy henchmen? Why did they only barry those two besides give a more striking image for the audience?
where is the other girl from
What did you expect? Breaking Bad also just resolves everything all at once in its final episode.
>walt mcgyvers all the bad guys to death with the engineering expertise he picked up as a chemist (?)
>lydia gets poisoned & presumably dies offscreen
>jesse gets freed and lives happily ever after (all alone because the only people he's cared about are dead)
>walt finds a way to get his money to his family at no risk
>gets some measure of acceptance from his wife & helps her make a deal with the feds
>walt dies before he can be caught
this all happens in 50 minutes, all the while hardly anything happens in any other episodes of this extra long season. Vince is a hack and I don't know why people expect him not to be.
Breaking Bad established itself as capeshit from season 1 with the mercury grenade. Doesn't count. People wouldn't be satisfied if Walt didn't do le science to kill people in the end.
Connecting a machinegun to a car trunk remote isn't science though, it's just moronic, even without taking into account the fact that it only killed people who weren't explicitly named (both villains and both protagonists survive after all).
Heeeere's what's gunna haaappen
There's still 5 fricking episodes left what the frick could possible happen that's worthwhile in those 5 epsiodes
at least 4 episodes of Mike finishing building the super lab.
SLOW BURN
L
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they're going to explain every single detail behind what was saul doing during every major event in breaking bad so that redditors can bravo
So how come a guy like Lalo let his guard down as Gus started delivering his speech? Surely that would have set off alarm bells. Also, Fring's four guards just stood there with no immediate jerky reaction as they got shot one by one. Lalo himself took ages to react when Gus broke the light and jumped left. Did he drink a full bottle of tequila before coming to kill Gus? Frick anyone who praises this trash show.
>Lalo shoots Howard after being seen by him and having no clue who he is after 3 seconds
>Lalo watching gus pace back and forth, watching gus kick the cord, hearing gus run and then still waiting a second to shoot.
Let's also not ignore the fact that those cords are fricking sturdy and some fragile old frick like Gus wouldn't be able to do that so cleanly. moronic shit
Oh right yeah. Also, the part where Lalo jumps over the fence and we see that the guard has conveniently left his chair and comes back to see the live CCTV footage just as Lalo has crossed the camera's angle. Such a lame trope.
He was meeting with Mike and his (solid) guys out front. But it's still lame as hell cause it means somehow Lalo is a fricking parkour ninja and can scale the wall faster than the guy can get back to the desk. And also Lalo just happens to have the right screwdriver to open the panel and disable the fan.
Why do you homosexuals lie like this? Lalo took WAAAAY longer to shoot Howard after he saw him than he took to shoot at Gus which was almost instantaneous.
>OH NO HE DIDN'T SHOOT AT GUS WITHIN 1 PICO SECOND PLOT HOOOOOLEARINOOOOOO
Just stop you queers. It's cringe and pathetic to the extreme the way try-hards pick apart "plot holes" and contrivances that don't exist.
>implying a killer like Lalo who escaped a compound under siege could ever even remotely let his guard down in any conceivable way around Fring of all people, especially when he's aware that Fring's men would be on him in less than fifteen minutes
ok
Why do you troons act like characters in these TV shows are perfect super hero's? Lalo literally shot at Gus as soon as he kicked the light, that's how he got shot in the stomach. If you think it's a plot hole or a contrivance that Lalo didn't shoot at Gus "sooner" or that taking 1 second to process an event and react to it accordingly is classed as "letting you guard down" that you're a homosexual.
>Lalo shot at gus as soon as he kicked the light
Objectively false. Vincedrones are pathetic
Gus kicks the cord at 1:26, Lalo shoots him at 1:27. You poofs are moronic,
>there are 2 vincedrones in this thread
Scary. At least the vast majority of Cinemaphile is seeing this shit for what it is. Vincedrones are a dying breed
Did you also scream "plothole" when in real life the top canadian sniper with loads of experience was killed within 2 days of reaching Ukraine?
What's the lie? Lalo walks in, Howard talks for a moment, Lalo shoots him. There is no lie here. Meanwhile
Gus talks
Gus is threatening
Gus paces back and forth
Gus makes a massively telegraphed kick towards the cord
Lalo still hasn't done anything
Gus starts running
Lalo still hasn't done anything
Gus picks up the gun
Lalo finally starts shooting where Gus was.
Stop using the word contrivances vincedrone. You do not understand the word
When Lalo recognised that Howard was in the room/a threat to him since he'd seen him he took far longer than "3 seconds" to shoot him. That's the lie. He also shot at Gus instantly when he realised he was a threat, prior to that he didn't. Why didn't he think Gus was a threat? Because he'd just shot 4 of his men and completely patted down Gus for any weapons and fully determined he had none. It doesn't require someone to suspend belief to believe that Lalo was confident and comfortable in that moment.
You typed all the shite as if to prove it took ages out but it took literally 1 SECOND for Lalo shoot from when Gus moved to kick the cord. ONE SECOND.
You homosexuals try so hard and it just comes off really really cringe.
>vincedrone on damage control
Lmfao. You can literally hear gus running before he starts shooting. Thank you for providing the video evidence proving my point. Dumb fricking vincedrone
Gus prepared the fuse like he did the gun
Why didn't Lalo jump over the bullet?
TURN OUT GUS KNEW ABOUT WALT MAKING METH FROM THE FIRST TIME HE SOLD TO CRAZY8! TURN OUR MIKE WERE WATCHING THEM AND TUCO FROM ALL THE WAY BACK THEN!
OH THE FLASHBACKS
Why the frick would I want to continue watching this show after they killed all the interesting characters?
>They tell you that they didn't intend there to be a 7 week cliffhanger between episodes 7 and 8
>"yeah sure bro whatever I'm so smart you can't fool me"
>episode 8 comes out, situation is resolved as if the cliffhanger wasn't meant to be such a big deal
>"bro what the frick that doesn't make any sense I can't go back and admit I was wrong somehow it's your fault"
Who the frick are you quoting
Give me 1 (one) good reason why Gus would ever let Kim and Jimmy live, knowing what they know about the cartel and what happened to Lalo.
Easier to control him through Mike than to account for whatever butterfly effect bullshit can happen from him disappearing. Gus offed Lalo and Jimmy represented him once so there's a direct connection.
Same reason he kept Nacho alive for so long, easier to have your dog's obedient than violent
does anyone else remember in season 3 of bb when gus and mike joke about how the lab is "haunted"
>a dog barks too loud you're on the phone to me
>But if Gus, the primary target, wants to go somewhere, don't worry about it I'll hear in the morning
>2 days ago it was 1 day left until the next episode
>now it's back to 6 days left until the next episode
>episode 13 jeff kidnaps gene
>takes him to an abandoned warehouse
>jeff leaves
>gene panicking and looking for a way out
>suddenly he hears footsteps
>gene: "who are you?! where am I?!"
>voice speaks out "better question is..."
>jesse fricking pinkman steps out of the shadows
>"...when are you, b***h"
>close shot of gene's confused face
>cut back to jesse, now gesturing at another figure in the darkness
>it's chuck
>cut back to gene, even more befuddled now
>cut to black
>"Saul Goodman will return..."
>text fade out
>Directed by Vince Gilligan
>Episode 13
>Gene is kidnapped by Jeff
>Gene alone in the warehouse
>Hears footsteps
>"It wasn't me! It was Ignacio!"
>Footsteps get closer
>Gene freaking out
>Suddenly out of the shadows
>"Hey Jimmy. Thought about that job offer?"
>Somehow...Hamlin has returned
Kino
Do it Vince
>we'll never get to see Eladio reacting to Lalo's latest vlog, then liking and subscribing
It's unfair bros.
mikebros...?
>We had a good meme going
No we didn't
gaseous poster
>NONE OF MIKES GOOD MEN WEAR VESTS
A HACK
want kim to piss on me
drippin kimmy
Not my call
Yeah? Why?
My guys are solid
YOU ARE DONE!
slurpin jimmy
Based on Lyle's scene, the whole EP should takes place around 4 - 5 am.
Jimmy's apartment is in a suburban area, which should be quite awake at 4-5 am because wagies(like Lyle) are getting ready for commute.
Instead, it's dead silence all the way through.
VRAVO BINCE
The Lyle scene happens later in the night. Jimmy and Kim are watching a late night film, which typically start at 9-10pm going by previous episodes where Jimmy reads the schedule, and given they had work in the morning it couldn't have been later than 11pm when Howard turns up. They'd also had a couple of glasses of wine. Lalo turned up shortly after and the whole episode takes place from this time frame for about 45 mins or so until the Lyle scene, which looks like 6am or so.
Lyle was speaking with Fring on the phone. Fring was under a doctor's knife. I don't think Fring waited hours to get his wound operated.
He wasn't under the kife, they were waiting on the doctor to get there from the hidden village. He was recieving first aid. He tells Mike the boarder is "about 9 hours walking", and he was still 3 hours away, so presumably yeah it was a bit later.
Still, yeah either Lyle is a proper cuck who's starting a fast food job at 4am or they fricked with the timeline a bit
Reminder that Kim smokes a cigarette with Jesse
Was it really plausible for lalo to miss those shots given gus's gimmick with the lights? Was it really that pitch black down there?
Lalo was holding the camera too
He got shot once. The armour is only good for one shot
No he got shot twice left lung and center chest besides the stomach which I ASSUME was a side entry wound when he flipped to get the gun from the tractor.
The side wound was an in and out by the look of things 2bh
>so you just pour it on anyone and it melts them? no matter how solid they are?
>yes
>is that right?
>yes mike, *detailed explanation about how the process works*
>you're so smart waltuh... I learn so many things from you...
>You're silly, Mike
Laughed out loud when none of the 4 henchmen even had their gun drawn out at the laundromat.
Never occurred to them or gus to stay vigilant? Just fricking stupid writing, have lalo shoot 2 henchmen and I wouldnt have laughed
>no /bcs/ thread up
it's fricking over
It is not in my interest to start a new thread… at this time
If neighbors can't notice 25 dressed all black military guys going into apartment in the middle of night, they probably will not notice a dead body being carried out.
Chuck living rent free in my head
We had a good thing you stupid son of a b***h! We had Lalo. We had suspense. We had everything we needed to wrap up the series and it all ran like clockwork. You could have shut your mouth, directed, and made all the spin offs you ever wanted. It was perfect. But no! You just had to kill him off. You with your pride and your ego. You just had to be the Gilligan. If you’d done your job, known your place you’d get a B R A V O
>the shitposting is seething laloBlack folk
That explains a lot
>HOW DARE YOU KILL THE MAN WHO THREATENED TO KILL YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY YOU SICK FRICK
what was Mike's problem?
>Don't want to wake the neighbours up *winks to the audience*
>Proceeds to march in with zero subtlety with a platoon of morons larping like they're in Rainbow Six
Who is this boomtard trying to fool?
this is how I would have done it:
>Lalo gets inside the lab with gus
>Gust turns out the light and escapes in the dark ( he should have seen practicing it instead of planting the gun )
>Gust closes the lab door and turns out the power, trapping Lalo inside
>Next day throw a bunch of rats in the laundry and make all workers go to home because there is a plague of rats
>Vamonos pest is seen arriving at the laundry cleaning the rat situation
>Lalo literally dies of starvation trapped inside the lab recording footage of his last minutes
>gus keeps the recording to watch it with a smile in his face
He literally measures the distance with his body and turn the light off to train himself for the exact scenario of an intruder, likely to be Lalo, at the construction site.
It's not the shows fault if you speedwatch.
>mike goes down and moves the excavator
>crrshshshhhtht
>"huh what was that?"
>ff
>gus does a cartwheel in the dark but then can't find the gun
I know i'm saying he should be practicing how to get out of the lab in the dark instead of magically knowing he will need a gun in that exact spot
didn't you watch the monologue gus gives to hector about torturing the coatl when he was a kid or the fact that he is keeping hector so he can torture him for years
him letting lalo rot in the lab while taking pleasure on it is perfectly in line with his character
Why are Americans so bloodthirsty? They all seem to want extended torture scenes in tv
It's over.
Lalo is such a cartoon villain who dies like a b***h. Im baffled that people like him.
He's flamboyant and fun.
Be nice.
>still no thread
It's fricking over. /bcs/ is dead, literally the week episode 8 dropped
>hehe let me the anon dictate how the episode should have gone down, I have seen lots of anime and played lots of vidya I know how plots work
Even the most generic shounen shit has been mor e enjoyable than whatever this season is. All it has going for is "muh we killed some characters off in the final season!" It was a good show until season 3.
Exactly, go back to Cinemaphile, television is not an art from your shounen rotted brain could comprehend.
>I AM BEING A REDUCTIONIST LOOOL
Congratulations.
Can't hear you with Vince's dick in your mouth.
Can't hear you with "being a contrarian" in your mouth + nice going bringing homosex into the equation, homosexual.
I accept the concession however?
>nice going bringing homosex into the equation
>I accept the concession however?
>however?
Please be bait.
Try and have an argument next time, anon.
True.
>literally nothing happens
>le random character death
rinse and repeat and you have this season thus far. it was obviously rushed to shit
>I AM BEING A REDUCTIONIST LOOOOL
>le
>literally
The site you belong to starts with an "r", just like the epithet that best describes you.
Has your condition worsened? Your bootlicking condition, has it grown worse? Is there a ringing in your ears? Are you seeing bright lights and hearing Gilligan's voice?
No rational person would shill as you have done.
Explain yourself.
Some worthless hack. For him, you shill, and put us all at risk? Some contemptible hack who couldn't write a good season for 8 episodes?
>no arguments
I don't even have to think to win against you idiots.
>I don't even think
Indeed.
have to think*
>no arguments
It's almost like you are making it easy on purpose, to make the detractors of this masterpiece seem like complete and utter morons.
To further increase the influence of Vince by making him even more liked than he already is.
That's not your call
>/bcs/ survives the wait just to die one day after episode 8 drops
waltuh... my general is liquid...
How the frick would they have planted Howard's car on the beach without leaving any footprints?
how do you not forget how to breath daily?
I have a functioning brain you see
Will the BCS finale top this?
>Gene Chicago Sunroofs Jeff's cab
how was this ending not an indication to people that vince is an irredeemable hack
like, there's nothing interesting or poignant about how BB ended, it's genuinely sad and pathetic how stupid the last season and the finale got
You don't think Walt shooting Jack in the head before he can spill the location of his money is a poignant character moment? It's very easy to shit over when you just focus on the over the top gun scene, there's a lot more going on than that though
>You don't think Walt shooting Jack in the head before he can spill the location of his money is a poignant character moment?
what, no lol.
...why
He was about to die, and he never really did it for the money anyway. He already offered 80 million to save Hank. It was all a power trip for Walt.
Vince tards defending this are just brain dead moronic drones and we all laugh at them
i feel i'm not really enjoying this show anymore and haven't this entire season
it's a weird combination of being both contrived and anticlimactic, and i feel like i could live with one or the other but not both
either everything should happen realistically and be anticlimactic, or at least they should go full bollywood and give me some fireworks
this just feels lame as frick, what was even the point of following all these characters like nacho or especially lalo that went out like some episodic anime goon
breaking bad had a shit last season and this is no different, vince seriously drops the ball with endings, it's unreal
Lalo basically was an anime goon. His importance as a character was solely in how he affected other characters, namely Kim and Jimmy. He served his purpose, and then he got the ending he deserved.
imagine kim accidentally farted on you while sitting on your lap hahaha
imagine there's an alternative reality where she is your wife
Gus left the gun there because he read the script.
nothing happens
EVERYTHING HAPPENS
>We will not carry Howard's body out in a box or something because the neighbors might see it
>But storming an aprtment in the dead of night with 8 guys dressed in black is totally cool, no one will suspect a think
WALTUH
>OH MY GOD, WE FINALLY FIGURE OUT WHY KIMERINO HAS GONE THAT AND WHY SAUL BECAME SAUL IN THE SEQUEL !!!!!!!111111
what the frick is wrong with you
I'm making fun of the homosexuals that wasted years of their lives watching this shit show for that exact moment.
Why do you think it's shit, and why do you think waiting for a show is something that demands 24/7 attention?
>this episode has a 9.9
it was decent but a 9.9 really? Is it because it had SHOOT SHOOT ACTION!!!! in it?
>imdb
>9.9
That's ridiculous. I swear people are going to come back in 10 years and rewatch this and will realize they were just tripping on the hype.
I don't really think it's a case of hype or recency bias or whatever. S6E5 and S6E6 weren't so long ago and they're among the lowest rated episodes of the series.
>great tension
>three seasons of buildup paid off
What’s not to like?
>paid off
You are very easy to pay off
someone died, therefore its a masterpiece
Personally, I expected a little more being a Smith/Gilligan episode like Bagman. I knew 5 secs after Kim walked up to Gus' home that Mike would pull her away. Not to mention the shootout in the end, it was all set up prior so if you were paying attention it only feels slightly predictable.
But honestly, I prefer this to the 4D chess move anticlimactic bullshit that happens in BrBa. Don't think they need to waste time being super clever for redditors to dissect each frame, just give us Kim and Jim straight for the last batch of episodes.
It was definitely predictable, but I'd rather have that than subversion for the sake of it. I'm not sure how else they could've resolved this without getting stupid. Lalo needed to die for the story to move on.
>Lalo needed to die for the story to move on.
but he didn't need to die to gus
in fact, i think kim killing him would've been much better
having lalo get so close to killing gus only to die like a moron given his spiderman senses up to this point was incredibly moronic
ti was like
>hey, remember this character with plot armor?
>here's gus, with DOUBLE the plot armor!!
>i think kim killing him would've been much better
I said without getting stupid.
how is that stupid
the only way the character would've died well in a satisfying way was if he got surprised, and that's within anyone's ability
there is a higher chance that my grandma could kill lalo by surprise than that gus would ever successfully pull off irl what he did in the show
Anon, highly experienced and cunning people die in real life all the time
exactly my point here
which is why we didn't need this dumb showdown
The dumb showdown is needeed because Lalo's entire mission for a while is to expose Gus's meth lab, dumb speedwatcher
to expose it to whom exactly
Watch the show.
there's no one to expose anything to, the footage wasn't being broadcast
sadly the show is moronic and at about CW tier writing levels at the moment
's no one to expose anything to, the footage wasn't being broadcast
He would give it to elladio later.
>sadly the show is moronic
said the moron who gets filtered by the simplest subtleties.
>would give
he's dead, so the whole thing is unnecessary as stated and your point is moot
not that
>IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
was ever a good way to go about scriptwriting, but i'm leaving your moronation aside
this show is nonsensical to the extreme and basically worse than marvel capeshit at this point, it's very sad that you guys have your ego wrapped in thinking it's so high iq when it's actually really dumb
>>he's dead, so the whole thing is unnecessary as stated and your point is moot
>not that
Who saisd it is unnecessary? they are cartel, they like their theatrics, they are insane.
>muh marvel capeshit
Not really, bring better bait for the next thread bro.
>it's nonsensical because I said so
No.
it's nonsensical because it makes no sense and because the justification you gave for moronic writing has nothing to do with why it was bad
>there's no one to expose anything to
This better be bait
Yeah it was good
Sorry not everyone is a le jaded fart sniffer like you. I wish I could be as cool as you, you don't like things, frick my ass anon, bet girls are all over you
what I liked the episode it just wasn't a 9.9
You seem clearly upset people are enjoying things
>people get mad over the imagined score of a random film review forum
lmao
Lalo is my favourite Mary Sue
When is she coming back
I'd like to know where else gus hid guns. Cause how the frick did he know he'd specifically need to hide a gun on the excavator?
As a rather paranoid man, I get him, I hide weapons all around my house and garden.
Yeah but that's at your own home. Gus probably has another 6 shooter under the fryer at Los Pollos Hermanos.
To be fair, Gus owns those things, so he might consdier them home.
Remember when Saul didn't know Gus in BB? He had to use a friend of a friend.
He still doesn't know him