Be honest. Do you people actually watch a single one of these? I haven't seen a single marvel movie and I don't plan on ever.
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Be honest. Do you people actually watch a single one of these? I haven't seen a single marvel movie and I don't plan on ever.
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I'll watch the movies and Daredevil+Secret invasion, so yeah.
Honestly, I tapped out after Endgame. The stuff that's come out since, I've just had no interest in. I saw Far From Home at a friend's house, but that's the extent of my post-Endgame watching. I'll be keeping my eye on Deadpool 3, maybe watch Guardians 3, but other than that, the only thing that interests me is whatever X-Men stuff might come out. Not holding my breath for anything amazing, but I've always liked the X-Men most out of anything Marvel, so as long as it's decent, I'll be happy.
I've never seen endgame or any of the other films leading up to it.
These are the most cynical and factory produced movies I've ever seen. What are you actually getting out of them?
>What are you actually getting out of them?
I have fun. I get to see an enjoyable movie with a good cast and leave feeling I haven't wasted my time. I'm under no illusions as to what I'm watching, it's not The Brothers Karamazov or Paradise Lost, I'm not expecting to have my worldview shook or challenged, I'm just looking to chill out with a film. Not really sure what more you expect me to say.
You don't want to be challenged by anything? Why not something more intellectually engaging?
>Why not something more intellectually engaging?
Says the guy posting on Cinemaphile in a MCU thread. Granted, so am I. It's OK to enjoy stupid shit, for most people it helps with not feeling burnout and helps them focus when they do come back to something requiring more than three functional brain cells.
>Getting this defensive
Your refusal to call a bad movie bad and choosing to go and see it anyway are lowering the bar for films all over the world. Please get better standards and stop rotting your minds with this quip festering trash.
Jesus, frick off back to your Pier Paolo Pasolini blurays and your Jean-Jacques Beineix Criterion collection, some of us just wanna chill out now and then, you fricking pseud.
>Some of us want to chill out every now and then
I can do that by talking with friends, reading a book or taking a nap. None of which require a movie fee to do.
Okay. And?
So you can't relax and be intellectually engaged and think at the same time?
>taking a nap
>So you can't relax and be intellectually engaged and think at the same time?
Wtf is this logic train even
Anons day
>Wake up at noon, a long intellectually stimulating sleep accomplished.
>time to talk to friends, thank god Cinemaphile is still pulled up from yesterdays stimulating conversations
>engage in robust arguments on important issues relating to society and culture
>gigabrain keeps focus on three capeshit threads and a Cinemaphile waifu thread simultaneously
>three hour nap
>another intellectual rest accomplished
>intellectually stimulated and ready for another 4 hours of riveting forum posting
>1 am already, a healthy brain needs sleep, time to engage in mindful rest once again.
Imagine having to do this much mental gymnastics to keep being a consoomer.
That was a single example moron, the rest of them require you to actually think.
Not an argument.
>So you can't relax and be intellectually engaged and think at the same time?
He says on a Mongolian basket weaving forum
Well, I guess some of us just aren't the galactic-brained maestrobaters we like to think we are.
It reminds me of the time Alex Jones once referred to thinking and sleeping as 'doing research in my mind', it's that same kind of 'please believe I'm so much better than you' energy most of us grew out of by our early 20s.
>"I have to be a brainless consoomer to relax! Don't judge me!"
ding ding, that's what the idiots arguing don't understand. The "high art low art" dichotomy is the most midwit shit imaginable. Movies are complex. MCU movies are like Spielberg blockbusters or OG Star Wars.
You can go in, have fun, kiss your date, laugh with gramps, turn your brain off and look at the explosions.
Or you can just engage with it like you would any other movie and have a great time with the highs and lows of the story, the cool costumes, etc
Or you can go autist mode go into it comparing to the comics for better or worse.
Or you can go into it as a "superheroes are like mythology" english professor dissection shit
it all works, because it's kind of just effortlessly FUN, but that's because they work to make everything a step or two more competent than fast & furious/bayformers type blockbusters
Except marvel movies fail the moment you actually try to intellectually engage with it and analyze it.
You lose a lot of credibility on telling others how to enjoy their free time when you are shitposting on Cinemaphile midday on a Monday, same as the rest of us. Know your place.
>None of which require a movie fee to do
If only there was some way of watching movies without spending money. One can only dream, I guess.
I mean, he apparently has never spent money on a book, so maybe there's a way?
You don't need to spend money talking to your friends either
If they live within walking distance, sure, but not everyone has that luxury.
>are lowering the bar for films all over the world
it's not a film though, it's a flick
They're movies, not Rollercoaster rides.
You're assuming I don't read or watch other stuff that doesn't. I don't sit around watching nothing but Marvel shit, guzzling Pepsi and eating Doritos. I watch superhero movies because they're fun and exciting. I read and watch other stuff to work other parts of my mind, how exactly is this a difficult concept for you to grasp?
Wow. This is such a classic pretentious Cinemaphilemment.
Pretentious refers to something trying to impress by affecting greater importance than it has. By definition, the MCU is pretentious. Enjoy them, but they aren’t artistically poignant or new. They offer no new examination of culture, film, comics, or humanity.
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>Pretentious
>but they aren’t artistically poignant or new. They offer no new examination of culture, film, comics, or humanity.
My guy, you are the prime example of pretentious
He's right though. They're low brow unintelligent shlock for unintelligent people.
Based. Marvel movies are increasingly cornball crap like '50s genre B movies but with a vastly higher budget and a political propaganda agenda.
It's hard to find anything that actually seems enjoyable in them besides a few early ones and maybe Infinity War. I mean at least if you can't enjoy CNN as well.
Problem there is most of them aren't good popcorn movies either. The action is basically just a showcase for celebrity actors, no passion to put together a good conflict. The bad guys in the first Avengers movie feel like an army of wienerroaches because the movie makers don't bother to give them enough attention to be intimidating.
This overpriced Jackie Chan imitation flinging CGI shinies is a good example, who pretended like Jackie Chan never happened to look better as part of the propaganda nonsense
I like mindless entertainment too. But I like my mindless entertainment to be well-made.
Pic unrelated
>These are the most cynical and factory produced movies I've ever seen.
They weren't this cynical in the early 2010s. Things started to change around 2016-17 when Feige started referencing adapting ANAD material in interviews.
watch Iron Man 1 at least
Infinity War and Endgame are actually good, probably the best examples of a cinematic universe actually working and having a satisfying climax. The problem is that a lot of the MCU is mediocre, and everything after Endgame has been either "okay" or "awful".
>*SEETHING*
I've watched Carol's movie and the Avengers movie with her in it (Endgame I think?)
I stopped after Endgame. Im glad I did, the films were already starting to get tedious around age of ultron, but at least they were all building to something. From what I hear about the new films it seems like they aren't leading to anything and they are held back from being decent as stand alone films because they all have to relate to each other in what is becoming an increasingly incomprehensible mess of a cinematic universe.
>they are held back from being decent as stand alone films because they all have to relate to each other in what is becoming an increasingly incomprehensible mess of a cinematic universe
It's what always happens. Remember Ultimate Marvel? "The characters you know and love, reinvented! No bothersome continuity! A perfect access point for people who don't read comics because they're so confusing!"
And then after, what, three years? They wind up the same tangled spaghetti mess with retcons and resurrections all over the place. DC should never have tried to copy them, their standalone-movies-with-direct-sequels method was going great for them, and with everyone trying their own cinematic universe, ironically, it made them stand out more.
On DC, I have to say I was enjoying their animated cinematic universe. It was nice because each film essentially felt like a standalone, but they all had a shared setting, so crossovers were easy. Really disappointed we aren't going to get more from that. They do need to get their shit together with the live action stuff though, or just go all in on the animated stuff, that seems to be their strength.
I'll watch Gotg 3 because those films and those casts have honestly been engaging and have enough style to stand alone.
Rest can go frick itself because i could not give less of a shit, fricking AGATHA? REALLY?
>ANTS+GotG
Yeah. Probably gonna watch Daredevil and Blade too.
I will download illegally those tv series
films? I will see all of them except maybe the marvels
A couple of episodes into Loki I realized that I was basically getting no enjoyment out of any of the stuff post Endgame. No Way Home and Shang-Chi were okay, but I felt pretty negatively about everything else. I haven't seen any of the stuff released in 2021 and have zero interest in the upcoming projects, but I might watch Guardians 3 and Deadpool 3 if that's happening.
Are we supposed to care?
While I like superhero movies I haven't seen all of them. But I don't really like comics so yeah. From Phase 5 and 6 I'm only planning on watching Guardians 3 and Ant man because they are the few superheros left I like. Avengers too even if I won't know who the majority is
It's cool you don't want to watch, everybody has their preferences.
I will watch the following.
Ant-Man and Wasp Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Secret Invasion
Loki S2
Blade
Daredevil Born Again
The rest aren't my thing. I haven't seen an all women's movie done right. The closest one was Wandavision. Then they went straight to the woke shit with Ms. Marvel and Captain America. Don't care about Agatha or Ironheart or Echo. The Marvels is going to be a cluster frick. I'm hopeful for She-Hulk Attorney at Law, cause of the comedy aspect.
I watched Iron Man and Iron Man 2 when they released. Thor seemed like shit so I didn't touch it and Marvel has never gotten any better.
only Guardians and ANTS
broke
>the MCU stopped being good after Endgame
woke
>the MCU has been generally average to mediocre with a few bright spots since Phase 2
I liked Gunn's DC shit, so I'll check out GotG. I'm excited for Daredevil, but, if it doesn't match the Netflix show exactly in tone and aesthetics, I'm out.
I remember as a kid I thought the idea of an interconnected cinematic universe was "really fricking cool" and actually did want to watch the various movies in their release order once I learned that that was the case, which was sometime in 2013.
I watched the first two Iron Man movies and Thor (skipping Hulk because it looked like hot garbage even to my high schooler brain), but then I stopped because I couldn't find the first Captain America movie on any service (netflix, video on demand, redbox, etc) and had no computer or knowledge of piracy. So I just stopped caring. The only reason I ended up seeing Guardians of the Galaxy was because it was playing in a doctor's office or something a couple years later. I had never entertained the notion of revisiting the series, due in part to the cultural zeitgeist that was cultivated around the franchise. Even as a child of 8 in the year 2005, I was a counterculture fiend. This has ended up saving me from a life of mediocrity on multiple occasions, such as the Harry Potter books or Disney/Nick Sitcoms.
Since GotG, I've only seen NWH (because I'm that much of a legitimate fan of the Raimi movies, and even then I streamed it via putlocker) and the Loki tv show (because it sounded like an actually interesting concept and I liked the aesthetic of the TVA). As it stands, the only thing I plan to see from Phase 5 will be Loki season 2 in the hopes that the Owen Wilson from the original timeline shows up again.
Haven't seen a single MCU movie, no.
I NEED to see how inferior the Daredevil show is compared to the Netflix one
Netflix conceding the rights is one of the many bad decisions they made but besides that I don't give a shit about the others
Wait...what happened to Armor Wars?
I thought they were finally going to give Rhodey a shot at being Iron Man.
I stopped at guardians of the galaxy 1. I have no interest in a sprawling continuity that threatens to take entire weeks and hundreds of dollars to catch up on.
Blade is a maybe, everything else is a hard NO.
I think even the so-called "good" Marvel movies are shit and these are significantly worse than them.
it's 4 movies a year that's not a lot
>Do you people actually watch a single one of these?
Sure, there's nothing good on tv anyway. Only things I've skipped are Black Widow and Ms. Marvel