First hour is better than the rest. What did you think of this schizokino?
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Beau is Afraid
First hour is better than the rest. What did you think of this schizokino?
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That's true, but I like the rest of the movie, too. The pacing dramatically slows down in the last segment, but it gets better after the sex scene and the appearance of the mother.
I hear that and respect that. I just think the comedy tone was more … apparent before he left his apartment. That whole scenario was so absurd I thought they would reveal it was a drug hallucination like the car scene in Wolf of Wall Street.
The guy on the ceiling is PURE schizokino
Unwatchable. Nobody wants to watch a 3 hour movie about a 50 year old man who is unlikeable in ever way
so is it kino
Yes. He’s literally me.
You're supposed to fall asleep during that play scene innawoods right?
Started enjoying it way less when we get to that part
i hate this movie because it brings out the biggest PLEBS on this board i've seen in years
i hate this movie because it brings out the biggest PLEBS on this board i've seen in years
The biggest plebs are the ones who try to defend shit
thank god I didnt
The movie isn’t good, no matter how much you try to handwave away and go “you just don’t get it”. You didn’t even mention how there’s a picture behind Mona when she’s arguing with Beau after he cooms that’s literally him standing in his living room after he hears she died. Try analyzing that one.
stop falseflagging
What the frick are you talking about homosexual
What the frick are you talking about homosexual
Did u tak her 2 da bar -tier posting you Black person
youre the expert
Did that trigger you, pleb?
No, you're supposed to realize that it's a parable calling on people to address their weaknesses and stop looking for answers in the wrong places. It's also kind of a call-out for the "literally me" nerds, Beau's immersion is broken when he realizes that he could never be the determined hero searching for his family because he never "cut his chains," never allowed himself freedom and bravery, and never had an intimate relationship with anyone other than his mother.
What did they mean by the penis monster
Was that actually his dad in the woods
What did the 5 notes on the ground say
Who stole his keys
Did he have a brother who died
Who was the old man in the attic
What happened to the frozen girl
>What did they mean by the penis monster
Beau's father is "a dick." That's literally it, father that was never there for Beau is a dick.
>Was that actually his dad in the woods
No
>What did the 5 notes on the ground say
Not sure, couldn't read them.
>Who stole his keys
Someone working for Mona, presumably. When Mona tells Beau that his keys being stolen is "imaginary," she's gaslighting him, just like she has been his entire life.
>Did he have a brother who died
No
>Who was the old man in the attic
Beau's brother. Mona shut him away because he was brave, questioned her, and didn't take her at face value, things a narcissist can't handle.
>What happened to the frozen girl
Sounded like Mona ordered her henchmen to feed her to Harry, the penis monster
thank you based anon
i may have more questions is that ok
Go nuts
It's a Kafka reference, like most of the movie, "Beau" is as close to properly adapting Kafka as anybody has gotten so far, though Orson Welles got close. Nobody listening to you, being surrounded by chaos that is normal to everybody but you, not being clued in on what's going on but everyone else is seemingly in the know, being hated for no reason, people making up petty excuses/purposely misinterpreting situations as evidence to malign you, being heavily punished or killed for the high crime of being mediocre/not measuring up to expectations set for you by others.
It really is Kafka. Nice post.
>the film is so..... Kafkaesque
>so irony poisoned and emasculated he thinks its preferable to not be an intellectual
mind broken
bro i literally posted this
lol
I just think its funny when people label anything with any shades of kafka as BRO THIS IS LITERALLY KAFKA
not try to respond without sounding like you are crying "bro"
>not try to respond
eslbros......
also why are you screencapping lol. Try re-reading my post. I posted
i didnt accuse you of posting it. Im using it as an example of me giving the film's themes a fair shake and digging in to it's deeper themes. Obviously you're some ESL sandBlack person and cannot properly speak or read english and misunderstood my post.
I accept your surrender conditionally on the clause that you shut the frick up forever
Yeah, and your post was garbage. You assumed everything had to be symbolic instead of just taking things on face value.
everything in the film IS symbolic you absolute moron. This isnt tarkovsky. Ari aster has put symbolic stuff and analysis-worthy stuff in all of his films.
Why on earth would you try and take a film like Beau is afraid at face value? Are you just a moron?
>Beau's dad is literally a giant penis monster who lives in the attic
jesus fricking christ you're dumb
It's literally a fictional movie. It can be as absurd as it wants. You're the one acting autistic looking for realism in a work of fiction.
das rite
now watch the schizo getting bullied by his own psyche for 3 hours. I'm such a genius for understanding the deeper parts of this movie
>BRO THE FILM LITERALLY ISNT REAL SO YOU SHOULD TAKE THE WHOLE NARRATIVE AT A LITERAL LEVEL
now you're the one who is being anti-intellectual. The film is an obvious allegory regarding the feeling of having an overbearing mother and how that eclipses and informs every part of Beau's (ari Aster's) life. Ari Aster even talks about it in interviews.
The film is a projection of Beau's psyche. You see the world through his eyes but it is obviously supposed to be shown as a warped reflection of reality and not supposed to be engaged with on a literal level like you would a storybook.
Nah that sounds gay. Taking everything that happens in the film at face value makes more sense. Huff your own farts elsewhere.
You got filtered by the ending didn't you?
You call that an ending? If you mean the movie stopped, yeah it ended.
The film ended with Beau's last judgment. If that isn't an ending to a story I don't know what is.
>Following the sudden death of his mother, a mild-mannered but anxiety-ridden man confronts his darkest fears as he embarks on an epic, Kafkaesque odyssey back home.
I don't have a soijak with a mouth open big enough for this.
Actually try watching it.
Really good movie tbqh
So he drowned for the crime of not helping a dangerous homeless guy? what a judgment
Yeah, the judge wasn't a loving and forgiving God, but a narcissistic and abusive mother. Aster reminds us that we are watching a horror film.
Film really wasnt that great. And i like Ari Aster's other films a lot. It was deep enough for interpretation/analysis but that doesnt automatically make it good in my eyes. I'd give it maybe a 6/10.
The absurdist stuff at the start before Beau gets hit by the van is the best part and is the best exaggerated view of the world ive seen in a while even though it is supposed to be how Beau specifically sees the world as the whole film takes place in his psyche.
It obviously takes a lot of notes from synecdoche new york, which is another film im not that big of a fan of.
The judgement at the end is Beau's own conscience. It is him self-criticising for all of the tiny bad things he has done in his life as he feels guilt for because his mom has mind-raped him so badly with her narcissistic gaslighting from childhood. The boat flipping at the end could also be Beau killing himself after attempting to strangle his mother out of frustration and rage. His defence attorney could be the other side of his conscience excusing his actions.
There is a lot of themes of water in the film as well.
Beau's second name is Wasserman, which translates to water-man. The town he is from is called Wasserton. Meaning water-town. His imaginary family are hit by a great flood, the water being needed for the pills, the kid with the boat at the beginning, beau obviously dying by drowning. It could represent Beau's mother being like an elemental force that controls everything in his life. He needs her like he needs water, but too much of her drowns him and she is completely overbearing, controlling his every move and damaging his psyche from a young age.
>It obviously takes a lot of notes from synecdoche new york, which is another film im not that big of a fan of.
That's what I was thinking, if I didn't know who wrote these films I would think they're by the same guy
Tired of the film medium existing just for visual displays of israeli neuroses
It's so bad I'm actually hate writing something to one up it. I can't believe a24 greenlit this like what the frick was Aster thinking. On the brightside, if the bar for screenplays is set this low I guess maybe my idea would have a decent shot if it's coherent enough because Jesus christ this was a catastrophe.
I hated the spider stuff in the beginning because there’s no real mention of it and I dont understand what it was about. Also the first segment of the movie reminds me too much of my autistic, avoidant self and I felt personally attacked. I want to coom in Parker posey
the spider was on ceilingman's face, speedwatcher anon
There was a notice on the wall of the apartment talking about a spider infestation, homosexual ass Black person
you sound upset did you speedread my post i answered you
All you said was there’s a spider on the guys face, but as the other anon mentioned it was a 86d plot point that had a scene left in. Either way, it was the first of many things in the movie that made me upset, 50 fricking red herrings
It had a bigger part in the script, most of the spider stuff was dropped, and it was just used as Chekhov's gun for the bum falling on Beau in the bath and causing him to run out into the street.
answeranon, what did the mom of dead kid want with Beau? What did she mean by "stop incriminating yourself"? Why did the video have a fast forward function?
Why not, pleb?
>getting triggered over being called a pleb on Cinemaphile
>What did she mean by "stop incriminating yourself"
Beau was being judged from the start of the movie. The "Stop incriminating yourself" was foreshadowing the trial at the end.
>what did the mom of dead kid want with Beau? What did she mean by "stop incriminating yourself"?
So Grace is heard on the phone with someone saying things like "this wasn't part of the contract" and "I'm a mother too, you know." I'm thinking she was on the phone with Mona, and that Grace truly didn't understand why Mona wanted all of these things to happen to Beau and pitied him. I felt like the whole point of the family segment was to show Beau a "normal, but flawed" family life, but use the daughter, Jeeves, etc to poison the well and make a mockery of it. That all being said, I think Grace felt bad for Beau and was trying to clue him in on what was going on so that he wouldn't make anything worse for himself at the trial. >Why did the video have a fast forward function?
Mona is God to Beau, I think is what the message here is. Ari keeps talking about how "israeli" he wanted this movie to be, and this is a big part of that. If you're a israeli boy, odds are you have an extremely overbearing mother that is always trying to find ways to "supervise" your life and actions, helicopter parent-type shit. Likely justifying that behavior in whatever way she can, "I was protecting you," "You lack the ability to choose," etc Mona is an extreme hyperbole of that, since she has enough money and power to control the world and engineer Beau's entire life from day one, is always watching, and she's shown to be able to survive death. All while being able to predict the future/control outcomes. For example, there was no reason Beau had to pilot the boat into the island cave, he chose to do that. Mona had a stadium inside the cave that would have cost tens of millions and probably a year or two to build, on the off chance Beau decided to sail in there on a whim? No, Mona knows better. Note also that when Beau looks for the cameras, he can't find them. So Mona is always watching from every angle all the time, and her perspective is what shows on the jumbotron at the trial.
I liked it but I do wish it ended before the weird court case at the end. I hoped that there would be a small indicator this was more in his mind and clarify, slightly, what was real and what was not.
Everything except the play was real. I hate how morons on here keep thinking it was all a dream or some shit.
That's the point really, it was difficult to assess if it was all real or part delusion on Beau's medicated mind.
Wouldn't mind that honestly. I felt it could have ended after he killed his mother.
it could've ended with the What About Bob-esque Pauly Shore movie that was "kinda taking the place of your dead son". That and the casting of Nathan Lane felt like a completely different movie where Sinbad pretends to be their new adopted kid
in a midwit movie, we'd cut back to him getting the news about his mother and taking a bath, and he's been hallucinating the entire thing because of the zyptocril or whatever drug he took, and drowns
if it filters Cinemaphile you know it's good
Could have been better but I liked it. Sadly my gf didn't.
Weak contrarian posting, by your logic then all the marvel mobies are gud
Cinemaphile loves marvel.
marvel movies don't filter anyone so no that logic does not apply
I liked all three hours of it. I was worried it would get boring or overstay its welcome, but it consistently stayed interesting. The film is like a nightmare that goes through every possible fear one by one. The dangers of living in a city, bad neighbors, misunderstandings, robberies, breaking and entering, random acts of violence, being being uncaring, you being put in a dangerous situation by trying to help someone. That guy who just immediatly runs up to Beau shouting "help me, help me, help me, help me, help me" over and over cracked me up. Then there's social fears. Fears of disappointing your parents, fears of dying alone, fears of being unloved, fears of offending people who are actually really nice to you, fears of being bullied and lied to, fears of being black mailed. All of these things happen to Beau, and there was more too. And everything had a great set up and pay off.
I thought the stage play went on a little too long.
dont forget fear of dying when you cum
anyone else notice the kid with the toy boat that flips over when the mom grabs him?
I guess that would go under "fear of intimacy."
Yes everyone was controlled by/working for the mom, the people on the street, the doctor, the people watching the play, EVEN young Ellaine
even the recluse spider?
what do you think about Ari calling this "the israeli lord of the rings"