i would rather convert to judiasm, get circumcised as an adult by a pedophile rabbi, go full hasid with the shitty curly hair and tiny stupid hats than become one of these insufferable reddit homosexuals
>christcuck
I've never seen anyone talk like this who has a chin. Also israelites fucking seethe even at the thought of Jesus. You fuckers are almost as annoying as israelite, or maybe you are a kike?
The only thing israelites seethe at is white people unified in a higher purpose. It's why the ADL classifies neo-pagan symbols as hate speech. No, they're not mad over pic related.
"Christcuck" always reeks of dated 2011-circa reddit atheists thinking they can just add "cuck" to their nonsense and blend in as le based Cinemaphilener. Their only tactics these days are trying to blend in to dated lingo or accusing their opponents of """larping."""
Modern e-atheism is such a husk of a system, not sure why they're still so bent on using these last halfhearted methods to push it so hard.
Well, one was made up by atheists as a sardonic joke. And one has survived thousands of years largely intact, despite the fact that literally every generation has had its share of reddit-tier homosexuals ridiculing it in the exact same fashion. If nothing else, one has staying power and one doesn't. Staying power counts for something, I should think.
by that logic, egyptians had worshipped their furry gods for thousands of years, certainly longer than christianity so better worship dogs and cats and whatever, retard.
The question was, what's the difference between the two. The answer is one has staying power, one doesn't. I'm not endorsing anything, and anyone with a reasonable level of reading comprehension would have been able to figure that out. >Retard
The question was, what's the difference between the two. The answer is one has staying power, one doesn't. I'm not endorsing anything, and anyone with a reasonable level of reading comprehension would have been able to figure that out. >Retard
Addendum: those towering animal-headed gods of the Egyptians actually match the descriptions of some angels in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament in some places. So, maybe don't be so quick to dismiss. >Retard
Spaghetti monster is esoteric code for the Rhizocephela Worm.
According to some deeply creepy lore, it's an ancient af brain parasite that carries a certain psycho-active fungus that imbues animals (primates) with higher intelligence. A form of "beneficial" zombification/control takes place. Eventually the now-human organism adapted to it, and the global cult built up around it. And this worm/fungus is "The Serpent" in every old tale. Satan etc. It allows you higher intelligence and knowledge, but in doing so, leads you away from a state of innocence/sinlessness.
All this weird shit bubbled up during the Chans vax investigation. Endless old sculptures (and new ones) heavily feature worm-like structures. It's tied into the Lotus Flower too, suggesting that your fat little Buddha man sitting on his lotus is actually sitting on the worm, while it flowers out of his ass. Which is why all the old school imagery of demons etc always show people kissing the devil's ass. Because that transfers the worm.
This is also why all front-facing Atheists are all these weird hipster creeps (like in OP) who signal esoteric negligence a lot (note OP's faggio man has an eye covered - a reference to Odin who sacrificed an eye in return for higher insight/knowledge and also the Eye of Horus, which is even more central to esoteric mystery school global-cult beliefs).
Making a pithy greentext post isn't exactly a challenge. It's just a pithy greentext post. So I'm not sure why you are butthurt that you got an equally insubstantial reply.
I see the argument that there might be a higher power, but not the one for picking one religion over another (regarding faith).
it seems so arbitrary, am I really supposed to just pick a random book to put my faith in? even if it aligns the most with my personal and moral beliefs, how do I reconcile the fact that it might not align 1:1, and that I "learned" to have faith in some of those things?
You it as a divine order from the religion’s diety that this religion is objectively correct, duh. Christianity is true because God and Jesus said so, it’s that simple for the religious
by following any faith you are going to hell in another, and there's no argument to why your faith is the correct one besides your personal faith itself.
wow anon, you must have studied many different religions in detail to come to such a conclusion, pray tell what religions have a hell for non-believers?
>you must have studied many different religions in detail to come to such a conclusion
no, it's just logical to assume you can't save yourself in every religion at once considering how many religions exist and have existed throughout history.
>pray tell what religions have a hell for non-believers?
this guy believes in damnation so probably his
Religion is something you are born into if your parents are smart enough to give you some sort of moral security blanket and also left their egos enough to understand the importance of believing in more than animal meat grinder world
If you were born to degeneration aka materialistism and nihilistic parents, then you are already on the back foot. That's why so many of these atheists are weak and cringe
>Religion is something you are born into if your parents are smart enough to give you some sort of moral security blanket and also left their egos enough to understand the importance of believing in more than animal meat grinder world
I love how when you push e-chrisrians enough, they just admit all of this is a LARP because they recognize the importance of community picnics against societal atomization.
the reason I specified I'm talking about faith specifically is because that's the part I have a problem with, not the moral good that having that faith and being part of a religion might produce. basically, believing in a fantasy (i.e. that dragons exist) doesn't make it any more real, regardless of how good the belief might do to society as a whole.
No, honestly you're supposed to follow the traditions and ethics of your people and continue from there to wherever you feel inclined. This is what the epic atheist redditors do, by the way, because this behavior is just the zealot version of modern toothless secularism (which in turn evolved in a christian setting and would not have happened elsewhere).
For me it was just reading into different religions and seeing what made the most sense. In the end I feel like either Christianity is the true religion or something along the lines of Gnosticism would be true. There's no alternative.
I read this excellent Christian refutation of this Reddit shite a very long time ago (like 10+ years) on some theology forum and bookmarked it. Sadly the website is gone and it wasn’t even archived by IA. I very much wish I had copied it or saved the webpage to reference it whenever Redditors start getting uppity.
>I read this excellent Christian refutation of this
No you didn't. You read some braindead "ontological argument" that falls apart after five seconds of actual analysis and told yourself your side won epic style so now you conveniently don't have to do any actual critical thinking. Many such cases. Sad.
Would have been better than your argument which consists of >HURR DURR SKY DADDY NOT REAL YOU DUMB I SMART
said while jumping up and down smearing shit all over yourself
I bought this book when I was an edgy godless teenager. The book is just one punchline done to death for 300 pages. Easily the worst book I ever read. It was the most millennial writing shit I ever read. Just kept getting wackier and zanier as the book progressed with no real point.
>"Atheism is a religion like not playing golf is a sport!" >so you proudly inform everyone around you that you don't play golf >and you wear a colander as a hat because you don't play golf >and you made an entire movie explaining the travails of people who don't play golf
Every movie ever made except Caddyshack and Happy Gilmore is a movie about the travails of people who don't play golf. Shit, I guess your little analogy backfired on you.
He basically used your “argument” against you and now your retarded brain can’t cope.
And yes, people would mention they don’t play golf if the topic of golf came up. People that are anti-vax aren’t retroactively taking a vaccine just because they form a group around anti-vaccines.
Every movie ever made except Caddyshack and Happy Gilmore is a movie about the travails of people who don't play golf. Shit, I guess your little analogy backfired on you.
Success in this life rather than delusions about the next. Did you give all your money to the poor yet? Possibly the most explicit message in the Bible directly from Jesus himself conveniently forgotten by all the prosperity gospel naggers in America who pray to Gun Jesus.
>What keeps an atheist going
Goals? Ambitions? Family? The development of skills and trades? Intellectual pursuits? Art?
The fact that people like you feel inclined to even ask such a question says so much about the religious. It's as if you would just crumple into a ball and never leave your house without the safety blanket of your belief system.
It's just like when religious people ask "What's to stop you from murdering people and doing horrible things if you don't believe in God?"
It says a lot more about you than it does any of us.
I don’t need promise of an afterlife or even an answer to why we’re here to enjoy my life. I’m just enjoying it and doing the best I can with the time I’m allotted on this earth
Success in this life rather than delusions about the next. Did you give all your money to the poor yet? Possibly the most explicit message in the Bible directly from Jesus himself conveniently forgotten by all the prosperity gospel naggers in America who pray to Gun Jesus.
>What keeps an atheist going
Goals? Ambitions? Family? The development of skills and trades? Intellectual pursuits? Art?
The fact that people like you feel inclined to even ask such a question says so much about the religious. It's as if you would just crumple into a ball and never leave your house without the safety blanket of your belief system.
It's just like when religious people ask "What's to stop you from murdering people and doing horrible things if you don't believe in God?"
It says a lot more about you than it does any of us.
brag about how they have amazing productive lives and are actualizing their potential without the "shackles of religion" but the fact that they're here, wasting time, posting with cheeto-dust fingers and cum-crusted briefs like the rest of us, shows us how "liberated" they actually are.
They're also just dumb. Take for instance >It's just like when religious people ask "What's to stop you from murdering people and doing horrible things if you don't believe in God?"
Right, because humans just have this instinct to not kill and do destructive things whether or not there's a system of moral authority in place. It totally wasn't religion that established ground rules like "hey maybe don't murder and rape." You, the rationalist, figured out this moral code just from being a heckin' good person, not from growing up in a society molded by religion for several thousand years.
Are you not the anon that asked what’s keeping an atheist going? If you’re not, maybe don’t hop on a discussion and co-opt their opinion.
Either way, if you’re a loser just like all the atheists here, then you’re just proving the unnecessariness of your religion. And it didn’t take a religion to figure out that killing others is bad. I don’t know how you could believe that.
>You, the rationalist, figured out this moral code just from being a heckin' good person
Literally and unironically yes.
The golden rule. That's literally all you need. Don't do anything to people you wouldn't want done to you. No code is needed. Just base level empathy. If you have empathy, you don't need to be taught right and wrong. If you were born with some psychological defect that means you don't have empathy, no religious text is going to make a difference. You think serial killers don't know it's bad to murder people? You think they are doing what they're doing purely out of ignorance and if someone explained to them that murder was wrong they would apologize and retire their knives? That's something a five year old thinks. The entire reason they do what they do in secrecy is because they know they shouldn't be doing it.
So no, religion didn't establish those ground rules and they don't need establishing. Religion and morality have absolutely nothing to do with each other, in fact it's quite the opposite. Religious belief is one of the most convenient catch all excuses to do heinous shit including murder that we have.
Where did the label "The Golden Rule" first show up in then?
>Acting like "don't be an asshole if you don't want others to be an asshole towards you" is a uniquely Christian idea
>Atheist can't read what I said
Common occurrence.
2 months ago
Anonymous
No it didn't.
Whether or not it came from someplace godly doesn't immediately signify anything relevant.
2 months ago
Anonymous
How does it not?
If it came from someplace godly, one of the benchmarks of morality is divine.
If it didn't, then it is natural.
I can't think of anything more relevant hinging on the existence of the divine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You're talking to an atheist. Godly just means a thing has to do with myths pertaining to gods.
Actually it was considering at the time most punitive and penal codes, both civil and personal, dictates some form of recompense or retribution to a person that wrong you. Eye for an eye, pay 20 shekels for raping a daughter, etc.
But then again, atheists don't really know history, they say they know it after reading a summary of an article written about a history book once. Just like they say they've "read the Bible" after reading a meme with one or two out of context verses
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Eye for an eye, pay 20 shekels for raping a daughter, etc.
Isn't eye for an eye just literal enforcement of the golden rule?
You shouldn't stab someone in the eye if you don't want to be stabbed in the eye.
Anything beyond that is a workaround because there's no practical equivalent.
Like, if the punishment for rape was rape, the victim can't do the retribution because if they wanted to fuck their rapist it wouldn't be a rape in the first place and they're probably a woman so they don't have a dick to rape with, so you'd need a third-party rapist-executor who does the judicial raping. It just doesn't work. That's why you have to substitute something else like 20 shekels.
When you think about it, isn't this STILL the basis of all law, even today? The mechanics didn't change over time, only the equivalency did (i.e. 20 shekels bad, 10 years in prison good).
You don't need to invoke god for any of this to work. It's just the primitive social contract that even animals have, plus abstraction generated by the human prefrontal cortex. The golden rule is as old as humanity.
>Don't do anything to people you wouldn't want done to you.
People try that and end up in a hole all the time.
You don't even know what that is, yourself. You aren't mature enough. Sooner or later you have to choose between multiple bad things and you need real philosophical guidance and principle beyond what's immediate and apparent to you.
and unless you've developed those philosophical principles yourself like an adult, you're fucked. Your guidebook is not going to help you navigate the world and if you think it will it's because you're incredibly sheltered.
>muh empathy
How far would empathy extend then? To your neighbor? The person in the next village over? The village of your enemies? When do you stop "just having empathy" bro.
Also you're just factually wrong.
Actually it was considering at the time most punitive and penal codes, both civil and personal, dictates some form of recompense or retribution to a person that wrong you. Eye for an eye, pay 20 shekels for raping a daughter, etc.
But then again, atheists don't really know history, they say they know it after reading a summary of an article written about a history book once. Just like they say they've "read the Bible" after reading a meme with one or two out of context verses
>because humans just have this instinct to not kill and do destructive things whether or not there's a system of moral authority in place.
Are you seriously and unironically asserting that it is the natural predisposition of all humans to killl and destroy and the only thing that stopped that was religion?
>I can't admit even to myself that it's retarded
If a man with a penis can be a woman, suddenly anything equally as retarded is on the table, flat earth, fake moon landings, you name it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
That's stupid. You're stupid.
2 months ago
Anonymous
"trannies exist so I'm going to turn my entire life into one giant shitpost" is not a rational response to the current climate, or any climate really
There isn't but they certainly force it hard as hell, trying to make some diverse homogenous unitary culture.
at least men and women are things that both are proven to exist
by definition it's a lesser delusion than believing in Sky Daddy
>men and women are things that both are proven to exist so therefore by the transitive property men with penises CAN be women and that's less delusional than sky daddy
Equally as delusional.
"trannies exist so I'm going to turn my entire life into one giant shitpost" is not a rational response to the current climate, or any climate really
Delusion is delusion and just breeds more delusion. You want a lack of delusion? stop being fucking delusional, period.
>trannies are a thing so it's not my fault when I throw logic and reason entirely out the window
Yes it is. You are responsible for your own behavior, regardless. Always.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>hur dur everyone here is retarded but me
>trannies are a thing but it's not my fault I throw logic and reason entirely out the window by believing it's actually a thing
lel
2 months ago
Anonymous
Your loaded premise that the entire fabric of reality hinges on whether or not men wear skirts is laughably absurd. Your grasp on reality must have been pretty fragile to begin with if people altering themselves with plastic surgery is all it takes to make you go batty.
That guy who had a bunch of surgery to make himself look like a cat must have really done a number on you. >WHAT IS THIS?! MEN CANNOT BE CATS AND CATS CANNOT BE MEN! ALL LOGIC AND REASON IS NOW FORFEIT!
2 months ago
Anonymous
>the entire fabric of reality hinges on whether delusion is accepted as "reality" or not
But it is, strawman about people and plastic surgery aside. The difference with your strawman is NOBODY EN MASSE SAID YOU HAD TO CALL HIM A FUCKING CAT, UNDER PAIN OF SOCIETAL EXILE.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>the entire fabric of reality hinges on whether delusion is accepted as "reality" or not
That's the thing. No it doesn't. Unless you're weak minded.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>You don't have to call trannies "she" unless you're weak minded.
I agree, so I don't.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I call people whatever they want me to call them because it's easier than starting fights with strangers. My concept of reality isn't threatened. If I call a trans woman "she" it doesn't call my entire notion of sex and identity into question. I still know what men and women are and what their anatomical and chromosomal differences are. Your entire premise is based on the fact that you have severe emotional problems and are likely stunted as a result of some kind of developmental defect like autism. You've decided to die on that hill and I haven't. Pure and simple. You're the weak one.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I call people whatever they want me to call them because there are real world consequences if I don't, and also I'm a pussy
So you choose to go along with flat earth or fake moon landing retards cause you don't want to pick fights with strangers?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, actually. If I was at the supermarket and I overheard someone talking about how the earth was flat I would not bother spending the next hour and 45 minutes yelling at them about how stupid they are. If you would, you have something wrong with you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>spending the next hour and 45 minutes yelling at them about how stupid they are. If you would
You love making strawmen arguments, don't you?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, so you don't instigate a conflict with every trans person you meet, then? Yeah, I didn't think so. Guess reality is safe.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>NOBODY EN MASSE SAID YOU HAD TO CALL HIM A FUCKING CAT, UNDER PAIN OF SOCIETAL EXILE.
This literally does not exist outside of twitter.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Uh huh. You totally won't lose your job or get "cancelled" for intentionally calling a mtf tranny "he". I thought I was the one who was supposed to be delusional here?
2 months ago
Anonymous
I have yet too, yes. Go outside.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You refer to mtf trannies as "he" to their faces? Balls, maybe I was wrong about you, you seem based, not sure why you're arguing with me
2 months ago
Anonymous
>not sure why you're arguing with me
Because you posted retarded shit.
Going with whatever is the opposite of popular culture is still being ruled by popular culture, is the thing. You should have things you believe and care about, and you should still believe and care about those things regardless of whether it's currently popular or unpopular.
So you let others dictate what you believe? Sounds like you didn’t find religion because you actually believe but because a group of people just annoyed you and you didn’t want to be associated with them. That’s pretty sad
Mad and gay lol, repent and maybe even you homos will be forgiven
So you let others dictate what you believe? Sounds like you didn’t find religion because you actually believe but because a group of people just annoyed you and you didn’t want to be associated with them. That’s pretty sad
I will never pretend to believe in Hebrew mythology just to spite reddit liberals in an online culture war. The fact that this has been an observable phenomenon just proves how profoundly retarded Cinemaphile is despite all of your posturing.
>Christianity is le fake! You may as well worship le spaghetti monster? >what? What the fuck dis you just say about islam and judaism!? Are you a fucking bigot?
>Judaism
Most atheist are arguments are literally directed at Judaism. No one argues against Christ being the platonic Logos, but damn near all religious questioning is against the historical validity of Adam and Eve, Noah, Moses, Jonas, Samson, etc. All that stupid OT israelite shit.
Atheists criticize Judaism and Islam all the time, dipshit. Christianity's also the single largest religion in the world, so it's hilarious when you try to act like an oppressed minority.
>Atheists criticize Judaism and Islam all the time, dipshit
Show me one example of an atheist in media simultaneously mocking israelites, Islam and Christianity. Go on, show me one clip of Ricky Gervais calling israelites a bunch of hat-wearing poofters, or Richard Dawkins doing the same. Show me.
>show me a joke that makes no sense to prove my faggy point
Anyway, what you're describing actually is like every fucking Ricky Gervais special he's put out. He loves pandering to retards like you.
>mentions ricky gervais >doesn't actually know his material
I'm starting to think your IQ might be the issue here.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't actually know his material
Yes which is why I'm asking to be shown. Are you sure you're not the one with a comprehension problem? Why are you dancing around this so much? I thought he makes fun of other religions all the time?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes which is why I'm asking to be shown
Then why mention Ricky Gervais of all people? Because you thought I wouldn't know about his jokes and tell you that, yes, most of his stand up material consists of dumb jokes about Christians, Muslims, and even israelites?
>I believe in an invisible man who made the universe with magic and I know he's real because a book from the bronze age talks about him >All those other gods people have made up over the centuries and have their own associated scriptures are definitely fake tho
Also does anybody find it weird that all of these atheist posts (read: attacking Christianity) kicked into overdrive shortly after the Hamas invasion?
Very odd, Cinemaphile didn't used to be r/atheism but now it seems like every other thread is some excuse to tell Christians how dumb and wrong they are. Very weird this is happening right after Muslims attack a bunch of israelites.
I was an Agnostic (no one can truly be Atheist) until I asked myself how the universe was moving.
Something must have moved it.
Something outside of our rules, that was capable of implementing said rules.
Seemed too complicated to leave to chance.
So I choose to believe there is a higher power, based on sheer logic.
Which god it is? I don't know.
But I know for sure that something made the universe.
And I love seeing Christians on here piss off Atheists. When Atheists stomp their little feet and go on their tirades it makes me giggle.
>a higher power
Very cucked way to say God. I don't know why people do this. It doesn't make it sound any more reasonable. You might as well drop the rhetoric.
Flying spaghetti monster serves the purpose of attacking the special privileges granted to religious people by the government. Like how Muslims were allowed to wear hijab when everyone else had to take off their hat in Canada.
It also attacks version of Christianity which is just God = Big Santa, which although is mostly just a belief held by atheists, but some ultra retarded modern Christians believe it too.
>It also attacks version of Christianity which is just God = Big Santa, which although is mostly just a belief held by atheists, but some ultra retarded modern Christians believe it too.
90% of Christians will tell you God is just love and will give you a golden McMansion in the sky if you profess Jesus' name. No one has ever actually read Aquinas or Calvin except a handful of online nerds.
All of these Dawkins types autistically miss the point that religion isn't even really about the theology. It's about ritual and community, and instilling correct values in people. >oh well, I don't actually know if Jesus turned water into wine, so I guess thou SHOULD kill! Heheheh, I'm clever...
>Religion is something you are born into if your parents are smart enough to give you some sort of moral security blanket and also left their egos enough to understand the importance of believing in more than animal meat grinder world
I love how when you push e-chrisrians enough, they just admit all of this is a LARP because they recognize the importance of community picnics against societal atomization.
It's not a LARP. That's literally what religion is. You've missed the point if you think all of those average church goers for a thousand years actually understood the first thing about theology.
They didn't, but they still implicitly understood that a community needs certain sense of cohesion, and certain moral guidelines that everyone agrees upon.
>I can't see the value of having one place within a community where everyone is expected to meet once a week, and where bad people are socially shamed into being less bad
That's because you have autism.
The world clearly isn't better off without these things in it.
>he can't see why two grown adults would force themselves and their children to replace the intimacy of home life with a bunch of strangers who speak shit behind their backs anyway
It's called "we can't get divorced because it would kill the kids".
2 months ago
Anonymous
Your community you live in aren't supposed to just be "some strangers" to you. That's part of the reason you have a church in the first place.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I want my neighbor to keep his trash in control so raccoons don't get in my attic. I don't give a shit about his Sunday funday routine.
Much like going to church every Sunday won't stop your father from committing adultery.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It'll make him think twice about it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
He'll think twice about it, lose to temptation, then beg Jesus for forgiveness next sunday. We did it, religion!
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's better to know you did wrong, than to insist you did right.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Not cheating is better than either of those options, but only Christianity guarantees you don't really have to care all that much come Sunday.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Without the moral framework, it isn't even really "cheating". It's just two animals grinding on each other, until one deposits seed in the other.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Monogamous pair bonding exists in animals beyond humans senpai and the rare instances of infidelity that have been documented have also completely destabilized the social group surrounding it the same way it does in humans.
Are you trying to tell me that Penguins have jesus bro?
2 months ago
Anonymous
I think my point in the first place is that religion is not Jesus.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This isn't an argument in the favor of the morality of monogomous marriage. It's at best a utilitarian argument in favor of it but you are otherwise obviously very ignorent about this subject
2 months ago
Anonymous
There is fundementally zero difference between being moral and being utilitarian. It's a means to the same end. That's the problem with debating you homosexuals, you accept no alternative to divine mandate. I can say I love my wife and thus am faithful to her and you'll just snap back with "LOVE'S JUST A CHEMICAL BRO, SHE'S GONNA DIE ANYWAY" as of functional human being reduce everything to such a base level.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>this isn't an argument in favor >it's only an argument in favor
Some of you stupid fucks should proof-read your posts before hitting Post in a seething daze.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure this is the cope your mom thinks about every time he remembers your dad balls deep in a girl who could be your older sister but it makes no fucking sense.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I can rationalize not betraying my wife regardless of the 10 commandments.
You have autism and spend too much time arguing philosophy online. No religious person actually destructs their faith in this way. They genuinely believe it.
I think it's pretty funny that people like you, ostensibly religious, make a better job of being condescending towards other religious people in better ways than atheists could ever dream of.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Oh no, I fully accept I'm not religious. Which is part of the reason I see the value in it. I'm very aware of what I missed out on growing up, and of what can never really be mine with the world being the way it is now.
Even if I really tried to be a Christian, there's not much point in it, if no one else is doing it. It's like being the one person on a baseball team.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I fully accept I'm not religious. Which is part of the reason I see the value in it.
I remember being this edgy lol
Yes, so think that they even have the self-awareness to rationalize that the Bible is fantasy but religion is the strength holding together western civilization against the destructive force of leftist nihilism so we must play along is laughable.
2 months ago
Anonymous
They've essentially been bullied out of it. They keep looking for religious rituals, but they don't know where to go for them now that Christianity has been sufficiently demonised and mocked, so they turn to political movements and subcultures instead.
The problem is that if your religion is Star Wars, rather than Christianity, there's no mechanism there to reward you for living a proper life. All you're being rewarded for is consooming Disney product.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The reward for living a virtuous life should be the advancement of civilization. In fact I would argue the emphasis Christianity puts on death and how nothing in life really matters and is all vanity and delusion is extraordinarily dysfunctional.
There has literally been wars fought over interpretation of Scripture. To say this is all just moralizing with no actual religious fervor behind it is ludicrous.
It's honestly a bit unfortunate that Atheism isn't a religion, seeing just how much effort and focus Atheists put into it.
If I wasted so much time focusing on a part of myself that wasn't even a belief, I'd be pretty ashamed.
It's the exact same issue fags deal with.
Both homosexualry and Atheism are supposed to be such basic and unceremonious staples of human existence, and yet every member of each strive to make it the only thing which defines them.
At the end of the day, being a redditranny is cringe and gay but so is being a christhomosexual when your entire purpose is to serve israelites and wash nagger feet.
If you're retarded enough that it works for you then that's religion working as intended, but I'm just too smart for it, so it doesn't matter how ''''''''''compelling'''''''''' your apologia is or how 'reddit' atheism is, it's not going to convince me. Atheism being a slippery slope to nihilism and degeneracy isn't the silver bullet you think it is, because there's no reason that the worst possible outcome couldn't also be true.
The only based form of judeo-christianity is gnosticism because it's the only one that makes sense. Really tells you everything you need to know about the average drooling christnagger, that the only interpretations worth a fuck are also considered the most unusual and occult.
Atheism isn't a religious belief; I simply don't believe in a God.
I'm not angry about it. I simply lack something that you religious people have. In your head there is an idea, a faith in an idea. It's just not there in my head.
It's not that I went through a deep process of analysis and deduced there was no God. I didn't read any holy books. I didn't read any unholy books. Didn't get preached to, either by believers or non-believers. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be an omnipotent, eternal entity that created the universe. I... Just.... Don't.... Believe... that there is one.
If you ask me what's my purpose in life and do I feel empty? No. I don't feel empty. Nor do I have a purpose. I simply AM. If God can simply BE, then maybe I can just BE too.
Religious people are all doxastic voluntarists - they think you choose to not believe in gods. They think you choose all of your beliefs and could simply choose to believe different ones, so they see you not believing in gods and thinkn"why would he not choose to believe in mine? Is he retarded?". The idea that atheism is simply a descriptive label foe your unchosen beliefs makes absolutely zero sense to them.
>be agnostic whose majority of friends are religious, generally protestant or eastern orthodox >they come at me with the "without god where's your morals??" >explain to them my reasoning >"well that's just not true, so where do you really get your morals from?"
Not sure why they enjoy coming at me and having these kinds of conversations, you'd figure they would get bored of it by now
anti religion movies are so ball less
heres the root of religion:
"I should be the one that runs things, I know better and Im always right. All the women should love me and everyone should treat me as the supreme being I already know I am. Now, there must be a way to get people to obey without me getting laughed at and held with my face in the mud, like last time. There must be a way.... If they wont follow me then they will follow a greater power that only I can represent.... yes that sounds like a good idea, i will start fleshing out the lore on this one. I bet people would buy into it if they belived they became better than people outside my followers."
yep. all religion was started by a mentally ill and clever person, all it needs are suckers to continue it.
>my god is a (flying spaghetti) monster
yeah that tracks
it probably started out as a joke but they believed in the vax so they probably actually literally believe in FSM too.
For me? It's Bob.
How come a bunch of stoners can make the perfect satire of a religion in good taste, while reddit atheists just have to be cringe about it?
It is if you subscribe to a blatantly ridiculous religion that says the sun stopped in the sky for a whole day or the moon split in half or alien spirits rose out of volcanos and inhabited Neanderthals. Nothing wrong with the abstract belief that mind precedes everything.
I don't understand Christians
Why don't they just provide evidence that their god exists(and that all other gods do not exist) and end the debate forever?
>responded whilst sounded very mad
i would rather convert to judiasm, get circumcised as an adult by a pedophile rabbi, go full hasid with the shitty curly hair and tiny stupid hats than become one of these insufferable reddit homosexuals
shalom
How is that any different than your current state as a christcuck?
>christcuck
I've never seen anyone talk like this who has a chin. Also israelites fucking seethe even at the thought of Jesus. You fuckers are almost as annoying as israelite, or maybe you are a kike?
I usually don't go around looking at men's chins. Then again I am not a Christian homosexual.
What a strange response. Must be a homosexual with no chin it seems to have struck a nerve lmao. Soulless kike
>slurs at the merest provocations
Such is the Christian faith.
>Oh no not SLURS ;_;
Maybe plebbit is more your speed
is the chin some kind of gay thing now?
I always thought jawlines were a universally appreciated feature.
The only thing israelites seethe at is white people unified in a higher purpose. It's why the ADL classifies neo-pagan symbols as hate speech. No, they're not mad over pic related.
"Christcuck" always reeks of dated 2011-circa reddit atheists thinking they can just add "cuck" to their nonsense and blend in as le based Cinemaphilener. Their only tactics these days are trying to blend in to dated lingo or accusing their opponents of """larping."""
Modern e-atheism is such a husk of a system, not sure why they're still so bent on using these last halfhearted methods to push it so hard.
This christcuck worships a kike on a stick over here
Thanks for confirming your NPC behavior exactly as accused.
We know mr. clappy golem
Bout the same ain't it?
explain how this is wrong
why? you can't understand it, dummy boy?
Well, one was made up by atheists as a sardonic joke. And one has survived thousands of years largely intact, despite the fact that literally every generation has had its share of reddit-tier homosexuals ridiculing it in the exact same fashion. If nothing else, one has staying power and one doesn't. Staying power counts for something, I should think.
by that logic, egyptians had worshipped their furry gods for thousands of years, certainly longer than christianity so better worship dogs and cats and whatever, retard.
The question was, what's the difference between the two. The answer is one has staying power, one doesn't. I'm not endorsing anything, and anyone with a reasonable level of reading comprehension would have been able to figure that out.
>Retard
Addendum: those towering animal-headed gods of the Egyptians actually match the descriptions of some angels in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament in some places. So, maybe don't be so quick to dismiss.
>Retard
>egyptian religiosity is literally nothing like what hebrews practiced
>but dude like there's animal headed figures man it's all connected
Retard
You have already established your reading comprehension level. I don't know why you think you have to keep going.
I understand you perfectly, you just said nothing at all interesting.
Addendum:Christ was crucified and Wotan was crucified. Like WOAH.
Retard.
Spaghetti monster is esoteric code for the Rhizocephela Worm.
According to some deeply creepy lore, it's an ancient af brain parasite that carries a certain psycho-active fungus that imbues animals (primates) with higher intelligence. A form of "beneficial" zombification/control takes place. Eventually the now-human organism adapted to it, and the global cult built up around it. And this worm/fungus is "The Serpent" in every old tale. Satan etc. It allows you higher intelligence and knowledge, but in doing so, leads you away from a state of innocence/sinlessness.
All this weird shit bubbled up during the Chans vax investigation. Endless old sculptures (and new ones) heavily feature worm-like structures. It's tied into the Lotus Flower too, suggesting that your fat little Buddha man sitting on his lotus is actually sitting on the worm, while it flowers out of his ass. Which is why all the old school imagery of demons etc always show people kissing the devil's ass. Because that transfers the worm.
This is also why all front-facing Atheists are all these weird hipster creeps (like in OP) who signal esoteric negligence a lot (note OP's faggio man has an eye covered - a reference to Odin who sacrificed an eye in return for higher insight/knowledge and also the Eye of Horus, which is even more central to esoteric mystery school global-cult beliefs).
>worships wine and crackers
>worships crackers who whine
Go suck off Richard Dawkins over on r/atheism.
Cinemaphile is for men of faith.
>stop challenging my beliefs and get out of my safe space
sounds like reddit would be exactly your speed actually
Making a pithy greentext post isn't exactly a challenge. It's just a pithy greentext post. So I'm not sure why you are butthurt that you got an equally insubstantial reply.
yes
I see the argument that there might be a higher power, but not the one for picking one religion over another (regarding faith).
it seems so arbitrary, am I really supposed to just pick a random book to put my faith in? even if it aligns the most with my personal and moral beliefs, how do I reconcile the fact that it might not align 1:1, and that I "learned" to have faith in some of those things?
You it as a divine order from the religion’s diety that this religion is objectively correct, duh. Christianity is true because God and Jesus said so, it’s that simple for the religious
>midwit damning himself
many such cases
you just rot in the ground
by following any faith you are going to hell in another, and there's no argument to why your faith is the correct one besides your personal faith itself.
wow anon, you must have studied many different religions in detail to come to such a conclusion, pray tell what religions have a hell for non-believers?
We don't believe in that fairy tale shit, Schlomo. That's like the whole point.
wtf bros i'm an atheist now
>you must have studied many different religions in detail to come to such a conclusion
no, it's just logical to assume you can't save yourself in every religion at once considering how many religions exist and have existed throughout history.
>pray tell what religions have a hell for non-believers?
this guy believes in damnation so probably his
>uses rhetoric
>calls someone a midwit
pottery
Religion is something you are born into if your parents are smart enough to give you some sort of moral security blanket and also left their egos enough to understand the importance of believing in more than animal meat grinder world
If you were born to degeneration aka materialistism and nihilistic parents, then you are already on the back foot. That's why so many of these atheists are weak and cringe
>Religion is something you are born into if your parents are smart enough to give you some sort of moral security blanket and also left their egos enough to understand the importance of believing in more than animal meat grinder world
I love how when you push e-chrisrians enough, they just admit all of this is a LARP because they recognize the importance of community picnics against societal atomization.
the reason I specified I'm talking about faith specifically is because that's the part I have a problem with, not the moral good that having that faith and being part of a religion might produce. basically, believing in a fantasy (i.e. that dragons exist) doesn't make it any more real, regardless of how good the belief might do to society as a whole.
Jesus. Google Aristotle's unmoved mover and you'll understand why some religions have more status/makes more sense than others
>some religions make more sense than others
yeah no shit. what's your point exactly?
No, honestly you're supposed to follow the traditions and ethics of your people and continue from there to wherever you feel inclined. This is what the epic atheist redditors do, by the way, because this behavior is just the zealot version of modern toothless secularism (which in turn evolved in a christian setting and would not have happened elsewhere).
and what happens when you get conquered?
We will soon see that, don't worry.
DMT.
For me it was just reading into different religions and seeing what made the most sense. In the end I feel like either Christianity is the true religion or something along the lines of Gnosticism would be true. There's no alternative.
gnosticism is more reddit than atheism
Well spaghetti is real doe
See it like every week or so
I think their point is that it's essentially a highly autistic reinforcement of nihilist consumerism as being the ideal mental state
I read this excellent Christian refutation of this Reddit shite a very long time ago (like 10+ years) on some theology forum and bookmarked it. Sadly the website is gone and it wasn’t even archived by IA. I very much wish I had copied it or saved the webpage to reference it whenever Redditors start getting uppity.
>I could totally own you if I had this thing saved trust me bro
>I read this excellent Christian refutation of this
No you didn't. You read some braindead "ontological argument" that falls apart after five seconds of actual analysis and told yourself your side won epic style so now you conveniently don't have to do any actual critical thinking. Many such cases. Sad.
Would have been better than your argument which consists of
>HURR DURR SKY DADDY NOT REAL YOU DUMB I SMART
said while jumping up and down smearing shit all over yourself
I mean, he's not. And you are.
You don't understand English very well, do you boy?
>Sky Daddy real because old book, and we know book is true because it's says Sky Daddy inspired ancient desert goat fuckers to write about him
I bought this book when I was an edgy godless teenager. The book is just one punchline done to death for 300 pages. Easily the worst book I ever read. It was the most millennial writing shit I ever read. Just kept getting wackier and zanier as the book progressed with no real point.
Faces of Atheism is still the funniest shit I’ve ever seen online.
Why does atheism make internet virgins seethe so hard? Just worship your israelite and suckle on nagger feet, seriously no one cares.
YESHUA IS THE KING
>"Atheism is a religion like not playing golf is a sport!"
>so you proudly inform everyone around you that you don't play golf
>and you wear a colander as a hat because you don't play golf
>and you made an entire movie explaining the travails of people who don't play golf
Every movie ever made except Caddyshack and Happy Gilmore is a movie about the travails of people who don't play golf. Shit, I guess your little analogy backfired on you.
You are a genuine midwit.
Mid is too kind
He basically used your “argument” against you and now your retarded brain can’t cope.
And yes, people would mention they don’t play golf if the topic of golf came up. People that are anti-vax aren’t retroactively taking a vaccine just because they form a group around anti-vaccines.
>He
Costner kino is always on the menu.
Meant for
What keeps an atheist going other than their ability to brag about being an atheist?
atheists love sucking nagger assholes. It's what they live for. Why do you think they support BLM?
Success in this life rather than delusions about the next. Did you give all your money to the poor yet? Possibly the most explicit message in the Bible directly from Jesus himself conveniently forgotten by all the prosperity gospel naggers in America who pray to Gun Jesus.
>What keeps an atheist going
Goals? Ambitions? Family? The development of skills and trades? Intellectual pursuits? Art?
The fact that people like you feel inclined to even ask such a question says so much about the religious. It's as if you would just crumple into a ball and never leave your house without the safety blanket of your belief system.
It's just like when religious people ask "What's to stop you from murdering people and doing horrible things if you don't believe in God?"
It says a lot more about you than it does any of us.
I don’t need promise of an afterlife or even an answer to why we’re here to enjoy my life. I’m just enjoying it and doing the best I can with the time I’m allotted on this earth
>In this moment I am euphoric
Yes
>the time I’m allotted
By who?
The truth is nothing
Posters like this
brag about how they have amazing productive lives and are actualizing their potential without the "shackles of religion" but the fact that they're here, wasting time, posting with cheeto-dust fingers and cum-crusted briefs like the rest of us, shows us how "liberated" they actually are.
They're also just dumb. Take for instance
>It's just like when religious people ask "What's to stop you from murdering people and doing horrible things if you don't believe in God?"
Right, because humans just have this instinct to not kill and do destructive things whether or not there's a system of moral authority in place. It totally wasn't religion that established ground rules like "hey maybe don't murder and rape." You, the rationalist, figured out this moral code just from being a heckin' good person, not from growing up in a society molded by religion for several thousand years.
See how stupid they are?
My nagger, you're on Cinemaphile too...
The difference is I don't think I'm morally superior because of something I believe in or don't.
Are you not the anon that asked what’s keeping an atheist going? If you’re not, maybe don’t hop on a discussion and co-opt their opinion.
Either way, if you’re a loser just like all the atheists here, then you’re just proving the unnecessariness of your religion. And it didn’t take a religion to figure out that killing others is bad. I don’t know how you could believe that.
>You, the rationalist, figured out this moral code just from being a heckin' good person
Literally and unironically yes.
The golden rule. That's literally all you need. Don't do anything to people you wouldn't want done to you. No code is needed. Just base level empathy. If you have empathy, you don't need to be taught right and wrong. If you were born with some psychological defect that means you don't have empathy, no religious text is going to make a difference. You think serial killers don't know it's bad to murder people? You think they are doing what they're doing purely out of ignorance and if someone explained to them that murder was wrong they would apologize and retire their knives? That's something a five year old thinks. The entire reason they do what they do in secrecy is because they know they shouldn't be doing it.
So no, religion didn't establish those ground rules and they don't need establishing. Religion and morality have absolutely nothing to do with each other, in fact it's quite the opposite. Religious belief is one of the most convenient catch all excuses to do heinous shit including murder that we have.
>the golden rule
>that's all you need
Funny. That label you're using came from The Bible.
No it didn't.
Where did the label "The Golden Rule" first show up in then?
>Atheist can't read what I said
Common occurrence.
Whether or not it came from someplace godly doesn't immediately signify anything relevant.
How does it not?
If it came from someplace godly, one of the benchmarks of morality is divine.
If it didn't, then it is natural.
I can't think of anything more relevant hinging on the existence of the divine.
You're talking to an atheist. Godly just means a thing has to do with myths pertaining to gods.
>Acting like "don't be an asshole if you don't want others to be an asshole towards you" is a uniquely Christian idea
Actually it was considering at the time most punitive and penal codes, both civil and personal, dictates some form of recompense or retribution to a person that wrong you. Eye for an eye, pay 20 shekels for raping a daughter, etc.
But then again, atheists don't really know history, they say they know it after reading a summary of an article written about a history book once. Just like they say they've "read the Bible" after reading a meme with one or two out of context verses
>Eye for an eye, pay 20 shekels for raping a daughter, etc.
Isn't eye for an eye just literal enforcement of the golden rule?
You shouldn't stab someone in the eye if you don't want to be stabbed in the eye.
Anything beyond that is a workaround because there's no practical equivalent.
Like, if the punishment for rape was rape, the victim can't do the retribution because if they wanted to fuck their rapist it wouldn't be a rape in the first place and they're probably a woman so they don't have a dick to rape with, so you'd need a third-party rapist-executor who does the judicial raping. It just doesn't work. That's why you have to substitute something else like 20 shekels.
When you think about it, isn't this STILL the basis of all law, even today? The mechanics didn't change over time, only the equivalency did (i.e. 20 shekels bad, 10 years in prison good).
You don't need to invoke god for any of this to work. It's just the primitive social contract that even animals have, plus abstraction generated by the human prefrontal cortex. The golden rule is as old as humanity.
>Don't do anything to people you wouldn't want done to you.
People try that and end up in a hole all the time.
You don't even know what that is, yourself. You aren't mature enough. Sooner or later you have to choose between multiple bad things and you need real philosophical guidance and principle beyond what's immediate and apparent to you.
and unless you've developed those philosophical principles yourself like an adult, you're fucked. Your guidebook is not going to help you navigate the world and if you think it will it's because you're incredibly sheltered.
>you've developed those philosophical principles yourself like an adult
By reading books and talking to wise people.
>muh empathy
How far would empathy extend then? To your neighbor? The person in the next village over? The village of your enemies? When do you stop "just having empathy" bro.
Also you're just factually wrong.
which is not surprising in the least
>because humans just have this instinct to not kill and do destructive things whether or not there's a system of moral authority in place.
Are you seriously and unironically asserting that it is the natural predisposition of all humans to killl and destroy and the only thing that stopped that was religion?
Jesus is just the first capeshit hero.
you can't prove a spaghetti monster doesn't exist
Imagine if someone told you 15 years ago that Cinemaphile is overrun by christian soccer moms now
You get it once you realize that being some trad christlarper is the counterculture now; being some gay trans ally is mainstream.
being counterculture by default is retarded
To be honest so is thinking a man with a penis can be a woman, but these are the times in whichst we live.
When in doubt, immediately go straight to trannies.
>I can't admit even to myself that it's retarded
If a man with a penis can be a woman, suddenly anything equally as retarded is on the table, flat earth, fake moon landings, you name it.
That's stupid. You're stupid.
"trannies exist so I'm going to turn my entire life into one giant shitpost" is not a rational response to the current climate, or any climate really
at least men and women are things that both are proven to exist
by definition it's a lesser delusion than believing in Sky Daddy
I don't believe in the existence of "one true culture"
There isn't but they certainly force it hard as hell, trying to make some diverse homogenous unitary culture.
>men and women are things that both are proven to exist so therefore by the transitive property men with penises CAN be women and that's less delusional than sky daddy
Equally as delusional.
Delusion is delusion and just breeds more delusion. You want a lack of delusion? stop being fucking delusional, period.
>trannies are a thing so it's not my fault when I throw logic and reason entirely out the window
Yes it is. You are responsible for your own behavior, regardless. Always.
>hur dur everyone here is retarded but me
>trannies are a thing but it's not my fault I throw logic and reason entirely out the window by believing it's actually a thing
lel
Your loaded premise that the entire fabric of reality hinges on whether or not men wear skirts is laughably absurd. Your grasp on reality must have been pretty fragile to begin with if people altering themselves with plastic surgery is all it takes to make you go batty.
That guy who had a bunch of surgery to make himself look like a cat must have really done a number on you.
>WHAT IS THIS?! MEN CANNOT BE CATS AND CATS CANNOT BE MEN! ALL LOGIC AND REASON IS NOW FORFEIT!
>the entire fabric of reality hinges on whether delusion is accepted as "reality" or not
But it is, strawman about people and plastic surgery aside. The difference with your strawman is NOBODY EN MASSE SAID YOU HAD TO CALL HIM A FUCKING CAT, UNDER PAIN OF SOCIETAL EXILE.
>the entire fabric of reality hinges on whether delusion is accepted as "reality" or not
That's the thing. No it doesn't. Unless you're weak minded.
>You don't have to call trannies "she" unless you're weak minded.
I agree, so I don't.
I call people whatever they want me to call them because it's easier than starting fights with strangers. My concept of reality isn't threatened. If I call a trans woman "she" it doesn't call my entire notion of sex and identity into question. I still know what men and women are and what their anatomical and chromosomal differences are. Your entire premise is based on the fact that you have severe emotional problems and are likely stunted as a result of some kind of developmental defect like autism. You've decided to die on that hill and I haven't. Pure and simple. You're the weak one.
>I call people whatever they want me to call them because there are real world consequences if I don't, and also I'm a pussy
So you choose to go along with flat earth or fake moon landing retards cause you don't want to pick fights with strangers?
Yes, actually. If I was at the supermarket and I overheard someone talking about how the earth was flat I would not bother spending the next hour and 45 minutes yelling at them about how stupid they are. If you would, you have something wrong with you.
>spending the next hour and 45 minutes yelling at them about how stupid they are. If you would
You love making strawmen arguments, don't you?
Ah, so you don't instigate a conflict with every trans person you meet, then? Yeah, I didn't think so. Guess reality is safe.
>NOBODY EN MASSE SAID YOU HAD TO CALL HIM A FUCKING CAT, UNDER PAIN OF SOCIETAL EXILE.
This literally does not exist outside of twitter.
Uh huh. You totally won't lose your job or get "cancelled" for intentionally calling a mtf tranny "he". I thought I was the one who was supposed to be delusional here?
I have yet too, yes. Go outside.
You refer to mtf trannies as "he" to their faces? Balls, maybe I was wrong about you, you seem based, not sure why you're arguing with me
>not sure why you're arguing with me
Because you posted retarded shit.
Going with whatever is the opposite of popular culture is still being ruled by popular culture, is the thing. You should have things you believe and care about, and you should still believe and care about those things regardless of whether it's currently popular or unpopular.
It's called not being an NPC.
Being a tradlarper that doesn't actually believe and just uses it as an excuse to rage online is no better
Atheists being such fags is one of the things that drove me to Christ and now my life is much improved for it. Bizarrely enough, it cost me nothing!
you fell for a christian psyop and now you're a mark, not exactly something to announce proudly to the world
Mad and gay lol, repent and maybe even you homos will be forgiven
So you let others dictate what you believe? Sounds like you didn’t find religion because you actually believe but because a group of people just annoyed you and you didn’t want to be associated with them. That’s pretty sad
I will never pretend to believe in Hebrew mythology just to spite reddit liberals in an online culture war. The fact that this has been an observable phenomenon just proves how profoundly retarded Cinemaphile is despite all of your posturing.
>t. is on Cinemaphile
Why are you retarded, anon
DONT SAY MY GOD IS SPAGHETTI YOU homosexual HE IS A MAN AND HAS A BEARD AND LOOKS LIKE SANTA AND HE'S NOT MADE OF SPAGHETTI HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
hwabag
>Christianity is le fake! You may as well worship le spaghetti monster?
>what? What the fuck dis you just say about islam and judaism!? Are you a fucking bigot?
>Judaism
Most atheist are arguments are literally directed at Judaism. No one argues against Christ being the platonic Logos, but damn near all religious questioning is against the historical validity of Adam and Eve, Noah, Moses, Jonas, Samson, etc. All that stupid OT israelite shit.
Atheists criticize Judaism and Islam all the time, dipshit. Christianity's also the single largest religion in the world, so it's hilarious when you try to act like an oppressed minority.
>Atheists criticize Judaism and Islam all the time, dipshit
Show me one example of an atheist in media simultaneously mocking israelites, Islam and Christianity. Go on, show me one clip of Ricky Gervais calling israelites a bunch of hat-wearing poofters, or Richard Dawkins doing the same. Show me.
>show me a joke that makes no sense to prove my faggy point
Anyway, what you're describing actually is like every fucking Ricky Gervais special he's put out. He loves pandering to retards like you.
Ok so just link me to one of those. You seem to be familiar with his body of work, if it's that common go ahead and show me
>mentions ricky gervais
>doesn't actually know his material
I'm starting to think your IQ might be the issue here.
>doesn't actually know his material
Yes which is why I'm asking to be shown. Are you sure you're not the one with a comprehension problem? Why are you dancing around this so much? I thought he makes fun of other religions all the time?
>Yes which is why I'm asking to be shown
Then why mention Ricky Gervais of all people? Because you thought I wouldn't know about his jokes and tell you that, yes, most of his stand up material consists of dumb jokes about Christians, Muslims, and even israelites?
Here you go. Insufferable turbo leftie Marcus Brigstocke doing exactly what you asked for.
>I believe in an invisible man who made the universe with magic and I know he's real because a book from the bronze age talks about him
>All those other gods people have made up over the centuries and have their own associated scriptures are definitely fake tho
Your imaginary friends are not real.
None of them are.
They never were.
They lied to you.
I'm so sorry.
Also does anybody find it weird that all of these atheist posts (read: attacking Christianity) kicked into overdrive shortly after the Hamas invasion?
Very odd, Cinemaphile didn't used to be r/atheism but now it seems like every other thread is some excuse to tell Christians how dumb and wrong they are. Very weird this is happening right after Muslims attack a bunch of israelites.
There's literally religious flamewars at least once a week for years. Shut the fuck up.
>once a week
Chaim, you're doing it like every hour on the hour now, no need to get angry because a few people are ~~*noticing*~~
>Israel is under attack so israelites are trying to get white people to not believe in God
What is even this 4D conspiracy supposed to even be?
I was an Agnostic (no one can truly be Atheist) until I asked myself how the universe was moving.
Something must have moved it.
Something outside of our rules, that was capable of implementing said rules.
Seemed too complicated to leave to chance.
So I choose to believe there is a higher power, based on sheer logic.
Which god it is? I don't know.
But I know for sure that something made the universe.
And I love seeing Christians on here piss off Atheists. When Atheists stomp their little feet and go on their tirades it makes me giggle.
>a higher power
Very cucked way to say God. I don't know why people do this. It doesn't make it sound any more reasonable. You might as well drop the rhetoric.
Post 9/11 atheism was cringe . It’s funny that it was easily defeated by posting photos of a fat guy in fedora.
Christfarts are the fat ones bro
Your entire belief system can be dismantled in a paragraph and your only rebuttal is "yeah well I bet you are overweight and you wear a silly hat."
And this somehow seems like a victory on your part. Curious.
Flying spaghetti monster serves the purpose of attacking the special privileges granted to religious people by the government. Like how Muslims were allowed to wear hijab when everyone else had to take off their hat in Canada.
It also attacks version of Christianity which is just God = Big Santa, which although is mostly just a belief held by atheists, but some ultra retarded modern Christians believe it too.
>It also attacks version of Christianity which is just God = Big Santa, which although is mostly just a belief held by atheists, but some ultra retarded modern Christians believe it too.
90% of Christians will tell you God is just love and will give you a golden McMansion in the sky if you profess Jesus' name. No one has ever actually read Aquinas or Calvin except a handful of online nerds.
All of these Dawkins types autistically miss the point that religion isn't even really about the theology. It's about ritual and community, and instilling correct values in people.
>oh well, I don't actually know if Jesus turned water into wine, so I guess thou SHOULD kill! Heheheh, I'm clever...
See
It's not a LARP. That's literally what religion is. You've missed the point if you think all of those average church goers for a thousand years actually understood the first thing about theology.
They didn't, but they still implicitly understood that a community needs certain sense of cohesion, and certain moral guidelines that everyone agrees upon.
The only reason you folks go to church is because dad doesn't wanna fuck mom anymore. That's literally it.
>I can't see the value of having one place within a community where everyone is expected to meet once a week, and where bad people are socially shamed into being less bad
That's because you have autism.
The world clearly isn't better off without these things in it.
>he can't see why two grown adults would force themselves and their children to replace the intimacy of home life with a bunch of strangers who speak shit behind their backs anyway
It's called "we can't get divorced because it would kill the kids".
Your community you live in aren't supposed to just be "some strangers" to you. That's part of the reason you have a church in the first place.
I want my neighbor to keep his trash in control so raccoons don't get in my attic. I don't give a shit about his Sunday funday routine.
Stomping your feet and slinging ad hominems isn't gonna change anything friend
Much like going to church every Sunday won't stop your father from committing adultery.
It'll make him think twice about it.
He'll think twice about it, lose to temptation, then beg Jesus for forgiveness next sunday. We did it, religion!
It's better to know you did wrong, than to insist you did right.
Not cheating is better than either of those options, but only Christianity guarantees you don't really have to care all that much come Sunday.
Without the moral framework, it isn't even really "cheating". It's just two animals grinding on each other, until one deposits seed in the other.
Monogamous pair bonding exists in animals beyond humans senpai and the rare instances of infidelity that have been documented have also completely destabilized the social group surrounding it the same way it does in humans.
Are you trying to tell me that Penguins have jesus bro?
I think my point in the first place is that religion is not Jesus.
This isn't an argument in the favor of the morality of monogomous marriage. It's at best a utilitarian argument in favor of it but you are otherwise obviously very ignorent about this subject
There is fundementally zero difference between being moral and being utilitarian. It's a means to the same end. That's the problem with debating you homosexuals, you accept no alternative to divine mandate. I can say I love my wife and thus am faithful to her and you'll just snap back with "LOVE'S JUST A CHEMICAL BRO, SHE'S GONNA DIE ANYWAY" as of functional human being reduce everything to such a base level.
>this isn't an argument in favor
>it's only an argument in favor
Some of you stupid fucks should proof-read your posts before hitting Post in a seething daze.
I'm sure this is the cope your mom thinks about every time he remembers your dad balls deep in a girl who could be your older sister but it makes no fucking sense.
I can rationalize not betraying my wife regardless of the 10 commandments.
What's a "wife"?
You have autism and spend too much time arguing philosophy online. No religious person actually destructs their faith in this way. They genuinely believe it.
The average person doesn't think at all. They just know what "feels right" and what doesn't.
I think it's pretty funny that people like you, ostensibly religious, make a better job of being condescending towards other religious people in better ways than atheists could ever dream of.
Oh no, I fully accept I'm not religious. Which is part of the reason I see the value in it. I'm very aware of what I missed out on growing up, and of what can never really be mine with the world being the way it is now.
Even if I really tried to be a Christian, there's not much point in it, if no one else is doing it. It's like being the one person on a baseball team.
>I fully accept I'm not religious. Which is part of the reason I see the value in it.
I remember being this edgy lol
Yes, so think that they even have the self-awareness to rationalize that the Bible is fantasy but religion is the strength holding together western civilization against the destructive force of leftist nihilism so we must play along is laughable.
They've essentially been bullied out of it. They keep looking for religious rituals, but they don't know where to go for them now that Christianity has been sufficiently demonised and mocked, so they turn to political movements and subcultures instead.
The problem is that if your religion is Star Wars, rather than Christianity, there's no mechanism there to reward you for living a proper life. All you're being rewarded for is consooming Disney product.
The reward for living a virtuous life should be the advancement of civilization. In fact I would argue the emphasis Christianity puts on death and how nothing in life really matters and is all vanity and delusion is extraordinarily dysfunctional.
It's not my fault the retards in charge of making up your choice of schizophrenic literature decided to include it as a literal thing he did.
There has literally been wars fought over interpretation of Scripture. To say this is all just moralizing with no actual religious fervor behind it is ludicrous.
It's honestly a bit unfortunate that Atheism isn't a religion, seeing just how much effort and focus Atheists put into it.
If I wasted so much time focusing on a part of myself that wasn't even a belief, I'd be pretty ashamed.
It's the exact same issue fags deal with.
Both homosexualry and Atheism are supposed to be such basic and unceremonious staples of human existence, and yet every member of each strive to make it the only thing which defines them.
I do not know why Christianity makes them upset and think about spaghetti and meatballs either
At the end of the day, being a redditranny is cringe and gay but so is being a christhomosexual when your entire purpose is to serve israelites and wash nagger feet.
If you're retarded enough that it works for you then that's religion working as intended, but I'm just too smart for it, so it doesn't matter how ''''''''''compelling'''''''''' your apologia is or how 'reddit' atheism is, it's not going to convince me. Atheism being a slippery slope to nihilism and degeneracy isn't the silver bullet you think it is, because there's no reason that the worst possible outcome couldn't also be true.
The only based form of judeo-christianity is gnosticism because it's the only one that makes sense. Really tells you everything you need to know about the average drooling christnagger, that the only interpretations worth a fuck are also considered the most unusual and occult.
Croids are so stupid. I mean these are the people who voted for biden lmao
I think this started as a protest about churches not having to pay taxes
Hi.
I'm an atheist.
Atheism isn't a religious belief; I simply don't believe in a God.
I'm not angry about it. I simply lack something that you religious people have. In your head there is an idea, a faith in an idea. It's just not there in my head.
It's not that I went through a deep process of analysis and deduced there was no God. I didn't read any holy books. I didn't read any unholy books. Didn't get preached to, either by believers or non-believers. I don't see any reason why there couldn't be an omnipotent, eternal entity that created the universe. I... Just.... Don't.... Believe... that there is one.
If you ask me what's my purpose in life and do I feel empty? No. I don't feel empty. Nor do I have a purpose. I simply AM. If God can simply BE, then maybe I can just BE too.
Religious people are all doxastic voluntarists - they think you choose to not believe in gods. They think you choose all of your beliefs and could simply choose to believe different ones, so they see you not believing in gods and thinkn"why would he not choose to believe in mine? Is he retarded?". The idea that atheism is simply a descriptive label foe your unchosen beliefs makes absolutely zero sense to them.
All followers of abrahamic faiths should be exterminated.
will there be a Cinemaphile in heaven I can shitpost on for all eternity?
thats all I imagine myself doing up there
This is so cringe... but so is Abrahamic religion.
>be agnostic whose majority of friends are religious, generally protestant or eastern orthodox
>they come at me with the "without god where's your morals??"
>explain to them my reasoning
>"well that's just not true, so where do you really get your morals from?"
Not sure why they enjoy coming at me and having these kinds of conversations, you'd figure they would get bored of it by now
the charges, pasta-quisitor?
anti religion movies are so ball less
heres the root of religion:
"I should be the one that runs things, I know better and Im always right. All the women should love me and everyone should treat me as the supreme being I already know I am. Now, there must be a way to get people to obey without me getting laughed at and held with my face in the mud, like last time. There must be a way.... If they wont follow me then they will follow a greater power that only I can represent.... yes that sounds like a good idea, i will start fleshing out the lore on this one. I bet people would buy into it if they belived they became better than people outside my followers."
yep. all religion was started by a mentally ill and clever person, all it needs are suckers to continue it.
Religions were probably started by crazy people that heard voices. Cavemen loved this shit.
Even ancient greeks respected madmen.
Smart greeks put madmen in temples, asked an entry fee and "helped" you interpret the "prophecies"
>my god is a (flying spaghetti) monster
yeah that tracks
it probably started out as a joke but they believed in the vax so they probably actually literally believe in FSM too.
For me? It's Bob.
How come a bunch of stoners can make the perfect satire of a religion in good taste, while reddit atheists just have to be cringe about it?
flying spaghetti monster predates reddit bruh
Reddit is a mindset and behavior bruh
full cap bruh.
>the literal reflection of the pan helmet looks like a fedora
It is if you subscribe to a blatantly ridiculous religion that says the sun stopped in the sky for a whole day or the moon split in half or alien spirits rose out of volcanos and inhabited Neanderthals. Nothing wrong with the abstract belief that mind precedes everything.
Yikes! What an unpleasant way to express themselves, atheists have
I don't understand Christians
Why don't they just provide evidence that their god exists(and that all other gods do not exist) and end the debate forever?
There is that towel with a face on it and some place has Jesus' foreskin in a box.
What more do you need?
Fancy name for Jedi if I ever heard of one.