Exterior and sets..
Hands down to me USS Voyager
>not campy like TOS Enterprise
>not overly pompous and hotel like TNG Enterprise
>not low budget like the defiant
>Not whatever dark copy pasta is every single nutrek ship
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'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'
"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured."
If I can go back in time, I would do so just to have an hour long conversation with this guy.
No point really, he'd just talk in tepid bon-mots that belong in fortune cookies.
"Boy I say boy you know what the difference is between a rooster and steamboat? Feathers."
>TFW no tanned Troi GF.
NX-01
akiraprise? even akira was better
Fricking hate the Akira. NX-01 is best looking Trek ship period
you know that was literally how it came to be tho
berman was long past giving a shit anymore and he was like remeber that ship at the begining of first contact? lets just use that
ENT shoulda followed lore and been like a daedelus class or similar
That might be the worst trek design imho, even worse than a borg cube.
And that's a fricking box in space.
it shoulda looked stupider than TOS enterprise, it predated it
also the daedelus class ships were refered to multiple times in TOS (tho never shown)
It's also the most realistic,
as a sphere is the most efficient use of maximizing volume and minimizing surface.
feel like the curved hull area is simply wasted space though, always difficult to place furniture, consoles, or rigid objects against a curved wall.
Saw this idea play out irl when someone tried to turn a grain silo into a house, shit doesn't work out well. Would be easier on a ship size scale, but still.
This, there's a reason Borg cubes are cubes and they only use the spheres to dick about with time.
Lore would be the NX-01 being this bad boy.
Unironic kino
Of the main ships, Voyager was the sexiest and most aesthetically pleasing.
I always liked the Prometheus class just for it's design and look, found it's "splitting into three parts" thing dumb, but it's look is pure sex.
Yes. Cool evolution of the Intrepid Class design. Tighter engineering hull. Never was a fan of the four nacelle design since the Constellation Class, but on the Prometheus it works because they are packed in tight. Sleek motherfricker.
>I always liked the Prometheus class just for it's design and look, found it's "splitting into three parts" thing dumb
100% agree
The Prometheus is just Sternbach recycling his first Voyager proposal and adding more nacelles and that funky separation feature.
Why do designers try to make some Trek ships look like a jet fighter and be aerodynamic? They are in SPACE. It doesn't need to be Aerodynamic. They should be more experimental in designs.
That's why Enterprise A and Enterprise D are superior. They actually look somewhat Alien. Like a Federation of planets put it together.
Ask Matt Jeffries
>not overly pompous and hotel like TNG Enterprise
Despite this, The USS Enterprise D is still my favorite ship. I love Voyager, the ship & the series, heck, Janeway is my favorite captain. But I don't like how dim the ship is, especially the bridge. Just wish we got to see everything, like the computer room & the main shuttlebay.
we only ever see a handful of sections of the ship
>bridge
>engineering
>med bay
>mess hall
>crew quarters
wtf was happening on the rest of the ship? things built like a cruise liner
People living their day to day. Why would you want that shown?
>People living their day to day.
doing what exactly? outside of the places shown, which are all integral to whatever quagmire they end up in from episode to episode, what could possibly be going on in the back half of that circle that would necessitate that size and yet never be mentioned or called into action by anyone or any scenario.
>People living their day to day.
youve lost your mind mate
living their day to day.
Running coffee shops, dry cleaning business, caterers.
I saw a documentary once about a British aircraft carrier. It really is a small town, they even had garbage disposal guys.
What did you do in the Dominion war daddy? Well sweetie I served on a starship...
There was supposes to be a fricking "aquatics lab" like they had a whole giant aquarium, maybe dolphins or something in there.
It's such an over design and waste of space, really is a 1991 Buick in space
Geordi expressly says they have dolphins on the NCC-1701-D, and the USS Cerritos has an entire Cetacean Ops section with two beluga whales.
it's the "kitchen sink" design, jumping the shark in terms of practical warship design in favor of taking the USS Carnival Cruise liner into space.
So inelegant.
The 1701-D isn't a warship. It's a homosexual starliner built for the UN in Spezz, which is what the Federation had turned into by the 2360s. The Dominion War fixed all that, as we see with the E, F, and G.
well now i just have even more questions
>things built like a cruise liner
more like a cruise CITY
if anything there were all too many people seen in the scenes
it can't be understated how fricken huge that ship was
Is it just me or are the windows too fricking big?
well the extreme angle windows require a big cutout .. by the time they taper into your quarters they are much smaller
huh?
It's gets crazier.
https://forgottentrek.com/the-next-generation/the-unseen-enterprise-d/
this fricker looks like he drinks soi meal replacements with wil wheton, no thanks
You forgot Stellar Cartography.
We also get to see several labs, the tree garden, cargo bays, shuttle bays, concert halls and the replicator shopping room.
They had the shuttle bay in at least two episodes; the one where they built yhe delta flyer and the knockoff of christine. It was just a stripped down version if the cargo bay set and a total disappointment. The episode where they had the lowest deck on voyager was a pretty neat set though
>knockoff of christine
How terrible ha ha
The mock up looked like something from a playground or a cheap merry go round.
I'll always be a sovereign gay and Mike Stoklassa can lick my nuts.
Its actually pretty good tbh
I liked the idea of the ENT-E being more combat like because it was commissioned during the dominion war
Quite frankly my favorite ship too, Mike can eat a bag of dicks.
Incredible how much of a difference simply turning that elliptical saucer 90° made.
Condensing all that wasted space from the Galaxy, turning it into an effective battleship.
>These ships are fricking
Is this shuttlecraft are made?
I do enjoy watching the E effortlessly BTFO a Borg cube in First Contact
wtf
Star Trek: Armada
i had a lot of fun with armada 1 & 2. i forgot all about that armada 3 mod, looks like it fully released, gonna have to dl it now
https://www.moddb.com/mods/star-trek-armada-3/
I hate that they don't clear up the fate of the Ent-E and that it's played off as a fricking joke.
Pretty based that they used the Odyssey Class Ent-F from STO, but shit that they decommissioned it and replaced it with a rebadged Titan-A.
ddin't they blow up the ENT-F and kill shelby with it?
Idk for sure i couldnt bring myself to watch anymore fricking PIC
No. The Borg (probably) killed Shelby. The Enterprise-F survived so far as we know.
so why would the titan-a become ent-g?
Because stupid writers have no understanding of how ship name conventions actually work.
U.S. and Royal Navy ships have been renamed plenty of times in naval history. USS Yorktown CV-10 was the Bonhomme Richard until USS Yorktown CV-5 was sunk at Midway.
Heroic ship names get preserved.
I'm saying if the ENT-F is still in service they wont christen an ENT-G ..
Also now ENT-D is apparently back in service too making it even dumber
>if the ENT-F is still in service
It isn't. The Ent-G, dumb as it is, was already shown in service.
I don't like that they supplanted the Titan's own legacy for that.
Enterprise should be a large capital ship, not a rinky-dink 'neo-Constitution'.
Some fans are begging for a series with Captain Seven on that ship now.
>now ENT-D is apparently back in service too
It isn't. It's in a fricking museum now.
Do you think the Ent-A is back in service too because it's also in a museum?
neo constitution is dumb to begin with
why would they start building ships to like 150 year old specs all of a sudden and somehow they are now the best ships?
>It isn't. It's in a fricking museum now.
well they use it to save the fricking day and now its even better than ever it doesnt need a 1000 crew just bridge officers.. do you think real navy muse
ops
do you think real navy musem ships are any kind of combat operational? no they are litterally museams
they cant even navigate they tug them into thier museum spots
Didn't they try to explain this little pot hole away with Geordi as museum manager?
Which is actually moronic,
for he'd have to illegally maintain the whole ship on his own and criminally conspire to keep it secret somehow.
You act like there's something odd about keeping a museum piece fueled with enough antimatter to destroy an entire planet.
as long as the Libyans don't find out
It's almost... like it's shit writing that is obvious fanservice?
Frick Picard, what an absolute malformed and misguided shitshow. The only thing saving it from being the worst is the fact that Discovery exists.
its just rediculous, were in a starfleet that had thier shipyard destroyed and therefore cannot build enough ships to save the romulans.. but somehow they have the resources to restore enterprise-D to full working order for no good reason at all?
Apparently the Romulans had an entire fleet of thousands of their own ships so it begs the question of why they needed the help of the Federation in the first place.
Somehow a single star going supernova was supposes to be enough to wipe out there entire fleet? I get that it's going off on there homeworld, and somehow...it caught them by surprise, despite all the obvious evidence pointing to there star about to fricking explode.
This should have wiped there two most important planets, Romulus and Remus, but the rest of there worlds would still have had plenty of time to at least evacuate.
The explosion from the supernova is only going to travel at light speed (if that, I don't think they would go that fast irl) so the shockwave would take decades to reach the next star, if it would still be dangerous at that point. You think after all that time they could get there shit together.
It's as if the people who write nu-Trek don't understand what they're doing.
thats the shit with PIC writing, we're not talking bajorans here
if they botheres to ever watch TOS TNG or DS9 they would realize romulan navy rivaled starfleet in size and power, they shoulda been able to evacutate themselves
also the supernova WAS not a surprise.. starfleet literally had time to constuct transport ships specifcially to save the romulans (which got fricked over by the mars attack)
the most infuriating part tho is the end of PIC s1 we got a literal fleet of hundreds starfleet vs a literal fleet of a hundreds of romulans.. Instead of fighting over being mad of the aftermath, why didnt just those two fleets unite and save the fricking romulans in the first place
nutrek is written by fricking 10 year olds
I think it's based. We only have to wait a few more years and we'll get a Star Trek show with an unapologetically and unironically evil cast of characters, a groundbreaking achievement in storytelling. We've had dozens of heroic shows, a few antiheroic shows like Firefly and Farscape, but this will be Star Trek expanding our horizons with a truly villainous, tyrannical show. And they will be not only lauded as righteous by the common masses and their media overlords, but fully represent the force of Good in our future ethics system, where the greatest Good of all is the uncompromising destruction of your enemy by any means necessary.
I don't think any of that really works.
It does work.
It works in real life.
Pure raw masculinity.
Sweaty, hairy dudes slaughtering other sweaty hairy dudes.
Holding up their severed heads and being like look I cut off this dude's head, bad ass mother fricker.
It works and warlords in the world such as Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan and Vladimir Putin always get their way, by being big sweaty hairy masculine dudes who kill their enemies and wage war for the sake of war.
It works because the Star Trek of the old generation is gay, pussy ass shit.
It works because it just works.
Dukat did nothing wrong.
Arthas did nothing wrong.
Garrosh did nothing wrong.
Sisko did nothing wrong.
I not reading all that but good for you or sorry that happened
Mean
I couldn't even stand the 3rd season everyone gushes about, so much moronic writing that makes the TNG movies look smart
>forgets how changelings work
>literally a "somehow, Palpatine returned" scene except with the Borg queen
>Picard's Borg sperm creates a Borg kid....??????
Consider that Picard (and most of nu Trek) is just nostalgia pandering.
MEMBERBERRY THE NEXT GENERATION DS9
Ironically it works.
>nutrek is written by fricking 10 year olds
No it's written by an idiot who needed a plot hook for his time-traveling, adventure movie script and the suits gave him control of the franchise so instead of ignoring those movies altogether, he enshrined his work into canon.
It's also Viacoms fault for cancelling Enterprise and splitting their movie and television businesses, but I digress.
the US navy could have kept the iowa battleships as a museum ship that was also capable of being reactivated if they felt like it.
There's a great channel about the USS New Jersey run by a autismo curator
https://www.youtube.com/@BattleshipNewJersey/videos
ya I watched all the interesting videos back during covid
Son, the USS Constitution to this day stands ready to deliver a broadside wherever the President commands.
It was perfectly fine when sisko rechristend Sao Paolo to defiant-A or even ENT-A was first USS TI-ho (offscreen)
But making Titan-A (also a history legacy ship) into Enterprise-G for no purposeful reason just seemed pants on head moronic (as i before mentioned both and ENT-F and ENT-D are also concurrently in service)
They literally stole whole ship designs from a fricking online-MMO!
Just to pander to the last remaining fan-base or out of sheer creative bankruptcy?
Who knows.
Of course they would rape that unwritten rule too,
because they're all fricking clueless about everything but their toxic hair colors and mental illness pronouns.
Odyssey class as an exterior design is nice imo, a good progression from Galaxy/Sovereign. The Titan should have been renamed to the USS Picard or something.
>Odyssey class as an exterior design is nice
Of course it is, we all voted on it back then.
It was the comfiest of all the design and the real cool features helped too.
Like the Slipstream or the Defiant class escort parasite ship, docked in the 2ndary hull's tail.
Out of appreciation to the crew of the NCC-1701-D no bloody no letter, A, B, C, E, or F.
They were decommissioning the F, which was launched in the mid-2380s.
Even though STO had it commissioned eight years after this point.
>absolutely perfect Picard season 3
>still fanboys whine
gfy bro
They weren't ready to tell that story yet. But the D is back.
perfect Picard season 3
you're one of those that watches live shopping shows and actually buys shit, aren't you
he gets a bag of money from cbs/paramount just like mike stolaska does
I tried starting PIC 3 and i saw it was the same literal garbage as PIC 1 and 2 .. except now were shitting over the whole crew and the whole tng, not just geriatric patrick stewart
yeah
it's one fricking memberberry after the other,
all the while subtly shitting on all of it while pretending to honor it
Frick you too. S3 was nice fan service, especially compared to the pile of shit we've gotten in the past two decades; but there was weird shit like Picard's supposedly 20yo son being played by a guy 15 years older. Also they did Beverly dirty by disappearing from all their lives and hiding a fricking son from the father. Half the D is in a museum now. Yeah, cool. NuTrek is still pozzed and the TNG reunion we all wanted (and fricking finally got) is over and done.
>nu trek
didn't happen, sorry
Picard season 3 is as close as we're ever going to get to a proper sendoff for the TNG crew. It was flawed but at least it was better than Picard constantly getting emasculated in the first two seasons.
>i-its good now
>a-anyone remember data?!
go back
I said it was as good as we're ever going to get. It wasn't a defense of the show.
Still didn't happen.
Your loss for endulging it
PIC didn't happen
I actually agree. I still consider it bad star trek, which makes it still ST, as opposed to anyting made after the reboot
I still dont understand why the titan was renamed to enterprise as a tribute to picard. I expected them to name it uss picard
If it's made after ENT ended it's not canon and not ST. Why even mentioning it? Who even watches that shit?
Frick ENT too. It all started to go wrong when they went into the past. Let alone the JJ and STD homosexualry.
A lot of us wanted to see what happened post-NEM. Naturally, they fricked that up as well.
It was a terrible mistake letting Stewart and Spiner derail the TNG movies - and thereby the whole franchise - in the first place.
>new pickle rick about to release in two hours
>suddenly three non-sequitur threads about a series with a designated container
you're a paramount advertiser
I am staying up for the new Lower Decks
Fingers crossed for T'Lyn pon farr raping Tendi and Boimler.
frick off this thread was specifically designed to keep you out, resume velma posting in the general kthxbai
You don't own Cinemaphile, gay.
Everyone hates you here.
Quite frankly they were all pretty perfect, for the ships that were portrayed.
>Galaxy
big spacious deep space exploration hotel, because it was the pinnacle of fed ship design at the end of a relatively long time of peace
>Defiant
cramped, utilitarian,
as a warship is supposed to be
>Voyager
much more efficient design and use of space,
as a fast and efficient science/exploration vessel needs to be
>Enterprise
pretty much what a more spacious version of an experimental submarine would look like,
at the very beginning of humanities deep space adventure
Voyager's set designs are GREY and DRAB and METALLIC it looks like a karen's kitchen.
Enterprise D will always bee the best, E gets honorable mention for its unique brown/blue look. Dauntless too for non-main designs.
>Voyager's set designs are GREY and DRAB and METALLIC it looks like a karen's kitchen
Have you ever been in an actual Navy vessel? That's what they look like bro.
Federation's ship aren't combat vessels
NCC-1701 refit is the best looking Star Trek ship and it's not close. Easily the most beautiful real or fictional starship ever designed. Absolute perfection.
Did the nacelles ever light up? They looked as if they were supposed to light up blue along the sides but I don't think they ever did.
they only light up when going into warp
which fricking TNG should have stuck to
They supposedly lit up at warp, but then you have inconsistent stuff like pic related. Also the deflector being brown when it was 'turned off', or the ship was sub-light. Yet it's usually glowing blue. Seems to be two different modes there.
Also weird that the Excelsior class nacelles were never lit, even at warp, until they re-did the model with perma-glow nacelles for VOY's 'Flashback' and the Dominion War.
Based.
Funny how there's a landing strip that goes almost all the way to the center at first and then it's just a huge cavern.
I like Star Trek ship designs a lot. But, I hate /trek/ and homosexuals making these threads. You posted a nice one, though.
The uss voyager is a piece of shit fit only for Nigerians, woman and pedophiles. Hms bounty all the way.
Best Star Trek Ship Designs
1. 1701 Refit/1701-A
2. 1701 Pre Refit
3. TOS Romulan Warbird
4. Klingon D-7
5. 1701-D
6. Klingon Bird of Prey (2280s)
7. 1701-E
8. Excelsior / 1701-B
9. 1701-G
10. 1701-C
11. Fesarius
12. 1701-F
13. Reliant
14. Voyager
15. Dominion Scarab-things
16. Ferengi Crab-things
17. Jellyfish
18. California Class
19. JJprise
20. XCV-330
21. Vulcan Ringship things from ENT
22. Borg Cube
23. Pakled Clumpship
24. Phoenix
25. Kzinti Flying Saucers
NX-01 is hideous and is the ugliest ship in Trek.
Thank Christ that they never kept with this fricking piece of shit original design.
The final version is comfy.
>those fricking warp flaps
I guess we were really lucky that they eventually just made the nacelles go up
like god damn sport car spoilers.
I get the director told the designer "make it look like a shark" but does that fricking dorsal fin serve any purpose at all, wonder if the crew could even get into it.
Any time you see a protruding doo-dad from a Star Trek ship the excuse is usually somekind of sensor array.
I'll always have a soft spot for Voyager but I wish the show was better. If only they'd gone the Battlestar Galactica route it would have been nearly perfect. I do also really like most of the characters even if I wish the cook died in the first episode
Doctor and Seven were goat
Janeway is quite good actually, once you accept she has bipolar disorder undiagnosed previous but triggered by the stress of being stranded in the delta quadrant (with no real doctor to relieve her of command)
But I agree with you on Neelix, and Harry should have stayed sucked out the airlock for good
Mental illness is not recognized in the Federation since official doctrine is that all mental illness has genetic causes which are corrected in the womb (this is legal there)
That's not the Excelsior
Enterprise D
We'll never get to see Voyager in glorious HD it will always be 360p poor quality 90s cgi.
TNG and TOS on the other hand are full HD.
yeh but TOS remastered with the new fx is a travesty
No. It isn't.
You literally couldn't do it any other way. The Okudas fricking tried.
I forward the USS USS Equinox
>sleek
>functional
>punches above her weight
>small not overly large
if a fleet of these things were ever made the Federation would of been unstoppable
naw it was described as a short range planetary survey vessel
without killing aliums for fuel they woulda got nowhere
just look at it and tell me you would not want one to check out the solar system
they should of kept this look always thought the defiant looked moronic by breaking too much with the saucer design
Fun fact: it's derived from the earliest designs for the Defiant. There's a whole section about it in the DS9 technical manual about the Defiant Pathfinder.
oh huh, I can see it now.
whats weird is theres 2 ships with basically the same design, the rhode island class and norway class, i think the equinox was a rhode island which is slightly better? to early to bother to check
So smol.
>blocks your path
Thicc
I always disliked the look of Voyager / the Intrepid class. The forward section resembles the head of a penis. When it's landed on a planet surface, by all rights it would tip over.
Constitution class will always be a great classic, be it normal, refit or A
For the more modern ships I like the enlongated design, Sovereign class being superior to Intrepid
Never liked the triangular-ish design or the many nacelles, let alone the splitting in 2-3 parts (I hated this since Galaxy class did it first).
For some reason I always disliked the Excelsior class's neck with a scarf, but it grew on me a lot in recent years, even if I still don't think it's great.
Voyager’s hotter younger sister.
Isn't that the new Protostar? I expect to see a proper Voyager-A in Prodigy S2.
That´s the original Protostar (status complicated). You see the Voyager -A (Lamarr-class special sience vessel) on the 4 minute sneak peek of s2.
https://www.startrek.com/en-un/videos/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-first-look
>https://www.startrek.com/en-un/videos/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-first-look
Wasn't prodigy canceled and almost finished season 2 will never be aired?
Yes, it was unpersoned by Paramount+, but production continued and Netflix picked it up; they start playing s1 later this year, s2 in 2024.
Can't wait for Voyager Season 9.
>is the Platonic Ideal Starfleet vessell your path
Where's the impulse drive?
lodged up the geoffrey's tube
i still cant believe the first sketches for this kind of design were not laughed out of the room
i haven't seen any sketches if there is any, they were probably so lazy they just looked at the mashup in blender or something and said that'll do. even the name is as lazy as it gets
It was a kitbash, only seen in the background in the wolf 359 debris field. It wasn't really meant to be noticed.
Top left.
for me it's the vorcha class attack cruiser.
sovereign is my favourite fed ship, that front quarter view silhouette is glorious.
I like that Aquarius escort ship that was stuck on the back of the Odyssey class ships, it's like a voyager/sovreign hybrid.
like the general shape if intrepid but i hate the rounded edges and corners - it looks like toys for morons
my favorites are sovereign and excelsior
Excelsior looks pregnant.
Push! Push!
Excelsior looks buff
This and it's not even close, it's like they took the essence of the 80's and compressed it into the shape of a starship
Opinions on the refit version?
With the flared engineering hull, extra impulse engines on the saucer and the updated nacelles.
the dumb 'notch' design in front of the deflector ruins it.
original excelsior is better
but i'm glad they did this for ENT-B to set it apart
How come none of the Starships had support vehicles like the actual Navy does? Making yourself multiple targets would work even better in three-dimensional space than it would on the ocean.
They have sensors that can detect shit light years away and replicators make resupply meaningless.
the big red noses on the nacelles are called
>Bussard COLLECTORS
for a reason
which is the main reason why they always must have a clear view to the front
>not overly pompous and hotel like TNG Enterprise
It's luxury is in line with the advanced Civilization its from.
IT'S BIN A LAWNG RODE
BAT MUH TIEM IS FINLY HEER
>got any cool new design for the first enterprise?
>best i can do is upside down akira
Should have gone with this.
It's funny that this was considered too outlandish for audiences when the original NCC1701 design was completely different and out of the box to boomers expecting Flash Gordon rocket ships or the classic flying saucer like in Forbidden Planet.
The upper part of the original NCC-1701 was practically a carbon copy of the C57D saucer from Forbidden Planet.
The studio literally demanded it.
ENTER
THE TRUE INTREPID
i would've liked the nx to look more like this and less advanced than it does. if not even less-trekkish for such an early ship
I think the NX-01 is a beautiful ship as it is.
It's a beauty on the inside, too.
i like the loop of the ship itself even if a lazy akira flip, but it looks a bit too advanced for the time period. ent is basically the first deep exploration vessel yet nothing else looks like it that we ever see, there should be a bit more similarity between it and other ships from the era and less the look we're used to. but i guess we never see many human ships overall in ent anyways (that freighter, anything else?)
Whilst I'm a big fan of the O'berth, if you asked me to draw or name a ship from the top of my head it'd have to be the 1701-A. Criminally underappreciated.
Connie refit is appreciated everywhere
I think of the TOS movies as peak Trek
homie try debating that shit on the Star Trek Online discord and get your ass handed to you.
What what in the butt
Put a hundred nacelles on this b***h, ram a giant antimatter jizm blaster up its core so it fires right out of the glans at the bottom and resolve all Federation, Romulan and Klingon disputes in five years or less, one chode blast at a time.
Coming soon in STAR TREK: PENETRATOR.
Starbases already can go to warp. It's just super slow. That's why it takes forever to move them and it's a big deal when they set one up.
no they don't.. they are not the fricking deathstar.. they could be towed at low warp however
>no they don't.. they are not the fricking deathstar.. they could be towed at low warp however
Massive Borg ships that dwarf anything the Federation has can move a warp speed...but you have a problem with a Starbase moving at low warp? Wtf is wrong with you.
>Starbases already can go to warp
can they? where is this shown?
The motion picture.
>can they? where is this shown?
Deep Space Nine. O'Brian moved the entire station using a warp bubble. It was slower than a ship, but it did the job.
they moved the station using thrusters, not warp
>they moved the station using thrusters, not warp
Rewatch the episode. O'Brian surrounds the station in a subspace bubble that lowered the mass of the station. Then uses the stations massive impulse thrusters to move it at incredible speeds A trip that would have taken months was done in minutes. It was a bootleg warp. Basically the equivalent of warp 1 or warp 2.
Also read up on your trek lore. There are shuttles in Trek that don't have warp drive, but are still capable of traveling between solar systems and vast distances. Impulse thrusters can move ships vast distances. Even the Enterprise in the original 1960s TV show could travel between solar systems at Impulse. The crew said it was take a while, but it could be done.
>Then uses the stations massive impulse thrusters to move it at incredible speeds
thats not warp though. not even close once you consider the relative speeds
Warp doesn't lower your mass, it warps the space time around your warp core.
that was a scientific thing they invented at the time to speed up thier thrusters .. not some kinda regular practice .. without it o'brien said it would take months to move ds9 from bajor to the wormhole (which is inside the same system)
We have shuttles without warp drive that can travel vast distances. It was done several times in TNG. Geordi even takes one in TNG to travel on vacation.
There are many alternative ways to travel at similar warp speed without warp drive.
shuttles can warp
>shuttles can warp
Not all of them.
it has naucelles..
>it has naucelles..
Those are Impulse engines.
>source
who cares anyway they were just for going down to the planet on the cheap
In the supplementary lore and Trek databooks, it's said that starbases can generate a subspace bubble around the Starbase. This lowers the total mass of the station. Then the station moves itself with its impulse engines. But because the subspace bubble lowers the mass of the station, the Impulse engines can achieve the equivalent of very low warp speeds. O'Brian did something similar in episode 1 of DS9. Although the station had been stripped bare by the Cardassians and wasn't equipped to do it properly or safely because of missing equipment. He still managed to do it.
As a child I thought that thing was a giant skyscraper space needle kind of thing because of one of the shots in the movies
That wouldn't work.
He means the sensor towers and antenna sticking out the top look like skyscrapers which they kinda do.
No I thought it was literally attached to the ground like a space elevator, though at the time I didn't quite grasp how far up Low Earth Orbit is.
Oh shit lmao
I was interpreting your childhood misconception as mine
>t. TOS movies were on repeat when I was like 5
You were a dumb kid, huh.
did you forget the literal scenes where they showed the whole thing?
Imagine living on this thing; even considering the main part is hollow and the bottom half is mostly deuterium storage tanks and antimatter reactors, there's still a FRICK ton of inhabitable space, like a city
genocide Bajorans
kill Bajorans
rape Bajorans
rob Bajorans
push Bajoran elders down stairs
drop kick Bajoran babies
rip off Bajoran earrings
steal Bajoran panties
fortnite dance at Bajoran weddings
fart on sleeping Bajorans
rearrange a Bajoran's cupboards
yawn whenever a Bajoran speaks to you
>When diplomacy fails, there is only one alternative: violence.
The entirety of Star Trek should've been like Living Witness which shows humanity at its absolute peak. The best murderers in the cosmos. No honor, no paranoia, no pomposity, no purpose, no order. Just the pure joy of murder. The absolute and final actualisation of the human self; the expansion of the human will on reality; the murder of all enemies, friends, neutrals, bystanders, the weak, the strong. Murder!
I love the federation.
I love the FEDERATION!
I LOVE THE FEDERATION!
AAHAHAHA!! DIE ALIEN SCUM!!!
*blocks your jump gate*
*Stay more than 700km, away* Now what, spinboy?
Love B5 and I could use more Warlock class ships
they seriously hate bathrooms in the future
The bathroom is beyond the door next to the square white lounge chair. It contains a toilet, a shower, and a basin.
i was getting his quarters mixed up with ready room, but yeah thats the joke anyways is they rarely ever show or acknowledge the bathrooms. i swear i've seen ent eps where they walk from the bridge into the ready room and show porthos sitting on the bed but i guess its been too long of a road
Yes. They are rarely shown in any series other than Enterprise. Archer's bathroom is shown in S01E05, "Unexpected". Hoshi's bathroom is shown in S02E10 "Vanishing Point", S03E06 "Exile", and S03E16 "Doctor's Orders". T'Pol's bathroom is shown in "Damage" S03E19.
>some anon has a list of one specific show and every bathroom scene in it
fetish or attention to detail? either way impressive list assuming its complete
Most all of them are shower scenes. Likely all of them filmed in the very same set
I do enjoy it when women take showers on Star Trek. Usually they are naked when doing so and naked women are sometimes very attractive.
No, they just almost never show them because it was over-the-air and people were more conservative. I remember Ally McBeal's bathroom antics were a big deal.
In any case, the art department had that stuff drawn up. Herman Zimmerman was the king of making sure things work on paper because he never wanted the writers to surprise him with something he couldn't create.
i actually have a huge galaxy msd framed picture that my uncle gave me, it looks like picrel but theres a ton of text around the outline telling you what everything is, and it has 1 public bathroom listed for the whole ship. i always thought them tiptoeing around bathrooms was funny
TNG era they just transport peepee poopoo into space
And now that same feces is being used to make nutrek.
tng has at least one ep where troi runs into the bathroom and washes her face (that mind rape ep?), but you don't see any shower or toilet, there wasn't even a door leading to the bathroom it was just open. i think the most we ever actually see for a functioning bathroom is that voyager ep where b'elanna is all gross and ends up in the sonic shower at the end
Neelix takes a conventional bath in the first episode of Voyager too.
Yeah, that's right, anon! Gosh, you're attentive!
that would've been a funny plot point, showing him getting used to sonic showers or talking about how much he hates them, but he understands voyager needs to conserve things even if to him they are making shit out of thin air
They have those fold away sinks in front of a mirror.
VOY/ENT were coomer trek so there were quite a few showers and baths.
Janeway has a bath in the Q episode and again on the monke planet stranded with Chokesongay. Belanna gets interrupted in her sonic shower by the Doctor and covers her boobs, so does Hoshi, Berman must have an ENF fetish.
For me it's Janeway lizardification
>1 bathroom in the whole ship
They shit in the airlocks.
Designated shitting jeffrey's tubes
You just shit wherever and then beam it into space. Just like in the Harry Potter universe.
assuming you have a warp core which is outputting more energy than goes into it, i think they'd literally just recycle actual shit back into usable material. if you can separate entire people by atoms, surely you can do it for an actual pile of shit as well
So... they shit into the replicator?
directly into it? worf maybe. but yeah replicators are shown to take entire plates of dirty dishes and reuse them as energy to make the next thing (ds9 when jake is cleaning up)
On the Ent-D, all matter recycling has to be approved by Lt. Barclay.
Does he have to sniff it first?
I always loved the Klingon Bird of Prey.
iconic
It's space. Why does the spaceship need wings, you don't need to provide "lift" to your ship, it's just wasted material and extra space you now have to provide a shield too.
Intimidation, duh
You know what is intimidating?
Build a better ship.
You know ships enter atmosphere, right?
theres nothing aerodynamic about those wings
>You know ships enter atmosphere, right?
No. Not all of them do. And even when they do, it's not something they do often. It's extremely rare.
Even Voyager barely did it. Most of the time they would hang in orbit, transport people down, or send a shuttle.
You don't design an entire class of ship around a task that you do 5% of the time.
birds of prey were definatly designed to enter atmosphere and attack ground regularly, as shown on DS9
You need some things on the side to build a warp field and the wings are basically weapons platforms. Also klingons engineers aren't very high on the totem pole, the warrior caste tells them to make it look cool.
Voyager felt the most like a ship people actually live in. It was comfy and felt like a ship designed for long range missions.
The Enterprise-D was super over-sized. I think they even comment on it in universe and say most of it is empty quarters.
The original Enterprise was of course a bunch of dry walls and curtains.
With the NX Enterprise they went a bit too hard in the realism route. It looked like something we would build today, except for the warp drive of course.
Why would the quarters be empty?
The stupid thing was designed to be able to transport a shitload of passengers if need be, for colony relocation, diplomacy, etc.
It's literally just a cruise ship in space with some lasers strapped on.
The ship can hold 10x the numbers of regular crew. They explained this away in-universe by saying it's not a military vessel, but instead built for diplomatic and relief missions. You could evacuate a frick-ton of people or hold giant diplomatic gatherings.
I think they just made the model too big and then rolled with it.
No.
Galaxy class ships were meant to be an exploratory class of ship. A massive ship that carried AND the families of the crew. Then be sent off into the unknown reaches of space for many years. It was meant to be a ship that was near self-sufficient. It had room for schools, recreation facilities, bars, nurseries, barber shops, etc. Anything a person could need.
Previously, 5 year deep space missions were the limit of starship crews. And even that was stretching and pushing it. Crews were eager to get back home and felt confined by the ship. But with the Galaxy class, crews could bring their families too. No more seperation anxiety. That way Starfleet could off Galaxy class ships into the unknown void for longer than 5 years.
It's ridiculous.
Yes, men would be able and love to live their whole lives on a ship.
But families require women, and the only kind of ships women can stand are fanfic relationships. No woman would ever not go crazy and murder her children out of spite if she was made to live on a ship. It's impossible. No I don't care about Roddenberry's vision, no humans have not evolved to a point that woman can now live on ships. It's stupid. Better have a ship where it's just dudes being bros. Think about all the times that Belanna tried to murder herself or her baby while she was on Voyager. That's realistic because women fricking hate ships. Only men could ever live their whole lives on ships, because they have testosterone and women don't.
>no humans have not evolved to a point that woman can now live on ships.
We have entire ships of retired people and even senior citizens living on giant cruise ships. They travel the world and enjoy themselves. It's a thing. Look it up.
Post-menopause women don't count, they aren't even supposed to be alive.
Yes, that includes your mother.
Guess you better hope you die before you get old.
Enterprise-D was launched without several mission modules and had space built in on top of that to accommodate troops, refugees, or any other large groups of people because they were going into deep space.
>Voyager felt the most like a ship people actually live in. It was comfy and felt like a ship designed for long range missions.
Nah. Voyager was meant to a scout ship during the Dominion war, and a high speed intercepter. It is not a long range exporarion vessel. That's the Galaxy class's role.
Several times in the show, the characters complain that Voyager wasn't designed for luxury or crew comfort. That it was meant for combat. Janeway also says they were not equipped for long range missions, but had to make due.
no voyager is a long range science vessel. it was only serving as a military capacity in the pilot .. prolly cuz its sensors were superior in locating maquis in the badlands
>b'elanna before that sonic shower
i could save her
Voyager also had the best theme.
All of those animations really made me want to get out there and explore shit in the cosmos
never gets old ENT is the GOAT trek kino
The defiant got cheapened by doing the flavour of the week stories, it really should have been reserved for story arcs or standalone shenanigans with the cloaking device. The shit stories can be reserved for the runabouts
the thing about the defiant is it was very bottle-y with lower budget sets..
it worked fine as a spartan combat vessel attached to a station where the crew normally lives
but when they started doing standard startrek stories where defiant encounters X planet or X anomaly it really felt outta place
I can only recall one episode where the Defiant did this and it was that godawful Meridian episode. Maybe also the one with the luddite communism but I don't even remember the Defiant being there.
Conversely, Empok Nor was kino.
there were several DS9 episodes entirly defiant contained where you never see the station except for a B plot about "whats quark up to while everyone else is away"
The best Star Trek ship is still Spirk.
ENT was the last good star trek show, everything after is pure shit and should be cancelled.
I agree with most of these except Lore. He was just a psychopath that enjoyed tormenting mortals.
thats a funny way of saying VOY
You have to be 18+ to post.
Today I will remind them
>implying anyone under 18 ever watched any classic or 90s trek ever
nice projection there zoomer
go post velmas in your containment thread
actually you'd be surprised, I think the classic and 90s shows are gaining a new audience through streaming
it's only boomers who like all the nu shit (ironic being that it's made to appeal to zoomies but zoomies reject it)
The only people nostalgic for Voyager or Enterprise are kids who grew up with it as their first Trek.
TOS reruns on the SciFi channel, TNG reruns on TNN (SpikeTV), and DS9, Voyager and Enterprise first-run on UPN was what I grew up with.
>go post velmas
They're TV and Movie related and no more brother wars, homosexuals.
>ENT was the last good star trek show
More people here need to have Faith of the Heart
I love ENT it's just that the first two seasons meandered a bit too much and kind of felt like a corny 2000s sitcom.
>inb4 that's the strength of the soul
The first two seasons were some of the best Star Trek ever in my opinion, and season 3 was epic
yeah but instead of showing how different alliances were formed (to eventually become the Federation) they do "haha Trip has to have sex with the sexy lady" or "Porthos peed on a tree" episodes
meaning they had to cram all of the actual prequel plot stuff into season 4
Andorian Incident and Carbon Creek are gems , however.
they are, but as I said here
when watching it brand new, every week, it would be another... Archer gets thrown in alien prison episode. You know, plots they already did to death in TNG/DS9/VOY.
I wanted more Shrankino.
You exaggerate. Probably because they didn't give you enough "Shrankino".
Enterprise still felt like old Trek, the new shows not so much.
star trek
Just watched TNG S3E1. It's so fricking sad how far Star Trek has fallen. It's an episode about everyone coming together in peace, no fights, no reprimands, mistakes were made and they are solved in the best way possible. Now all we in Star Trek is shooty shooty lazer explodey, waaah racism, waaah diversity, waaah.
b***h was ugly-hot.
>in another episode of "Anon says the gayest thing ever"
You’re saying you think she’s beautiful or you think anons gay for having an attraction to them?
Chad here. I've had some ugly girlfriends who were totally hot, notwithstanding their looks.
Aeryn was sexy, but not because she was pretty.
She is pretty. You are an ugly
Aeryn was homely. She was still quite frickable.
She was a butterface.
Watch "Who Watches the Watchers."
That'll make you lament the decline.
Pottery.
>Pottery.
In what way?
In the boardroom geezer rant way.
The Andromeda Ascendant can travel between galaxies in a few weeks,
Starfleet's wimpy ships can't compete.
Lexa Doig's ass can travel between my mouth and dick, if you know what I mean...
That's lewd.
I only think pure thoughts about Trance Gemini.
She's the real star of the show.
>She's the real star of the show.
The show died after season 2, so I have no idea what the deal with her was.
The Kevin Sorbo Action Adventure Hour ran for 110 episodes over 5 seasons, anon.
Trance loses her tail in season 2, and becomes golden in season 3.
ENT is as boring as nutrek