Our great grandparents had to walk 5 hours into town if they wanted to buy anything. Going anywhere was an entire days effort. Even our most inconvenience would blow their minds if they could see us now.
>people in the 50s buy cars because they had money now >suburbs get built around the assumption people have cars because they do >pedestrian infrastructure and public transit that does get built is underused because people have cars >cities stop funding things not related to cars >boomers block anything resembling residential density because noise/muh property values/Black folk >have to buy a car to exist now
we don't like it either anon. The most expensive parts of my city to live in are the old walkable parts because that's where people want to live
thats a school. how else is a situation where hundreds of people who cant drive and need someone to pick them up all at the exact same time so they dont have to walk and get raped and murdered by Black folk supposed to go down?
My HS was in a pretty developed part of the city (malls and shit within walking distance) and we never had huge pileups like that. Drop offs and pickups happened all over a 3 block radius, this system of dropping right to the door is moronic.
yeah im assume its some dipshit policy they have where kids arent allowed to leave the grounds without an adult or parent. i just walked to some random edge of the school and got pick up there
Most likely answer is businesses built in that city have a code with a minimum parking requirement based on expected peak occupancy. So theoretically if everyone decided to shop at all those places at the same time the lots would be full
>citygay bugmen literally cannot comprehend the concept of owning a car
I buy groceries for the week in one day, it takes 45 min. and we don't run out of anything because we're not morons. Imagine running out of bread.
>I buy groceries for the week in one day, it takes 45 min. and we don't run out of anything because we're not morons. Imagine running out of bread
HOLY SHIT KEK THE AMERIMUTT CANNOT COMPREHEND THE CONCEPT OF FRESH DAILY BREAD
American bread lasts several months before going bad if you store it in a try place. Sorry you live in a shithole where everything starts molding 5 seconds after you buy it.
I make my own bread if I feel like doing that, yuroisraelite. But usually that's too much and wasteful if no one's coming over. Nothing beats the convenience of a slice from a preserved loaf. Do yumorons really have to go down the street and buy a new slice of bread every time they want one? Literal insanity.
>no one's coming over.
Why not? Don't they have cars, thus making it easier to travel to your friends and spend time with them? Surely cars foster a stronger sense of friendship as a result, and America is a nation of close-knit communities?
>you own a car therefore you must spend all your time driving to other people's houses and never be at your own relaxing with your own family
What kind of logic is that? You're actually mentally ill. Yes my family often comes to my house, they're not there 24/7 though. I know you yuropoors like to pack like sardines in the dirt floor huts in your villages, but that's not how we do things in the first world.
>A car is what makes a man truly free.
You drive in a massively regulated cuck cage along massively regulated roads and you have to be licensed and registered by the government for the privilege.
7 months ago
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you were found too unstable for a license weren't you
7 months ago
Anonymous
No, I drive a cuckcage.
7 months ago
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>you were found too unstable for a license
that doesn't happen right?
you are paying for a license, so you get a license
7 months ago
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You say that like it's hard to get a license. Also
>can only go where the state decides to build roads and where the state decides there can be a gad station
lmao
How do you venture out without roads? Delving into nature still requires parking outside it most times. Imagine literally criticizing highways the system that literally gave man the ability to roam without spending his life's earnings
7 months ago
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Americans don't even have the right to roam. In Scotland, you can walk on any unused land you want. In America, the cops will shoot you for "trespassing" on unused land.
7 months ago
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>Delving into nature still requires parking outside it most times
7 months ago
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Sorry my country is enormous. I've got 6 different state forests I can drive to each within a couple hours before I even reach a border into another state. Have fun staying stuck in your town for the majority of your life
7 months ago
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how about not turning the nature into a parking lot
7 months ago
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>In Finland, the freedom to roam and related rights are called "jokamiehenoikeus" (every man's right) and more recently this is being replaced with the gender-neutral form "jokaisenoikeus" in Finnish (everyone's right) and "allemansrätten" in Swedish (lit. "everyone's right"), similar to other Nordic countries.
>The right is not codified in any specific law. Instead, it arises from the principle of nulla poena sine lege - what is not illegal cannot be punished. Things that are not explicitly disallowed, are allowed by default.
>Everyone may walk, ski, ride a horse or cycle freely in the countryside where this does not harm the natural environment or the landowner, except in gardens or in the immediate vicinity of people's homes (yards). Fields and plantations, which may easily be harmed, may usually not be crossed except in the winter. It is also possible to establish outdoor recreation routes on private land, based on an agreement on the rights of use or by official proceedings in accordance with the Outdoor Recreation Act, for example.[2]
>One may stay or set up camp temporarily in the countryside, a reasonable distance from homes, pick mineral samples, wild berries, mushrooms and flowers (as long as they are not protected species). One may fish with a rod and line (only still waters), row, sail or use a motorboat on waterways (with certain restrictions), and swim or bathe in both inland waters and the sea. One can walk, ski and ice fish on frozen lakes, rivers and the sea. Income from selling picked berries or mushrooms is tax-free. Picking cloudberry may be temporarily restricted to local residents in parts of Lapland.[3] In the autonomous province of Åland the right to camp's inclusion in the right to roam was disputed, but since 2013 this is no longer the case.[4][5][6]
>Because American property rights include the right to exclude others, the freedom to roam does not generally exist in the United States.
7 months ago
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>Because American property rights include the right to exclude others, the freedom to roam does not generally exist in the United States.
Get this you fricking europoor sissy
MY LAND!
MY HOUSE!
MY CAR!
MY GUNS!
Now frick off back to wherever mudvillage you came from
My neighbors did this shit to me. I had my car parked in the same spot (on my side of the street) for a week since I was in-between jobs. At around 11 p.m. cops were shining flashlights outside my house. My NEIGHBORS called the police on me instead of talking to me like a normal person about it.
The HOA sent me a fricking letter because some other guy who has nothing to do with me parked in front of my house for a few hours, maybe to attend a party
I live 5 miles away from my Mums house. I buy groceries and food there. I live alone in my flat. I haven't brought groceries here for months. I walk past the shops and don't buy anything. I just eat/cook at Mums cause it's cheaper that way
I was just trying to show that for some people groceries at the place they live is a mythical idea. I walk hours, I walk past all the shops, I see all the stores where I could buy the groceries I want. instead I come home to an empty fridge, with no groceries, drink some water and go to sleep.
my point was just to show that there are ways of living where you walk 2 hours and didn't even buy the groceries !
Must be like being burried alive in inland america. I mean your cities and towns look absolutely hideous anyway wherever you are, but having no sea breeze and being in some soulless flyover hellscape with hideous cardboard houses and fat, stupid and ignorant people around you and low quality food and meat products, in a barren landscape with no notable natural beauty or landmarks...
Well hats off to the people that wake up every day and do that
I grew up like that and I liked it. I hate cities, they stink and are full of shitskinned people. I'm currently working in one right now but I'll be moving back to the suburbs with my own house eventually. Much better, cleaner, more spacious, friendlier people, better community, WHITER. There really is no benefit to living in the dingy shitty full of crackhead nogs unless you're very rich and can afford to avoid them entirely.
it always seemed like a spoiled first worlder thing to b***h about this, this is unimaginable luxury for most people in the world. go to some commieblock Brezhnevkas in eastern europe, favelas in south america, or the insect hives in india, bangladesh, etc and ask them if they would like their own car and detached home that doesnt even share a wall with anyone. also, the problem with walkable cities was always crime and low social trust, look at the places where they work great: east asia, homogeneous bug people with shame cultures.
I normally make fun of Americans but I do feel genuine pity at them for not even realizing how much better things could be. Car-centric infrastructure just destroys any sense of neighborhood community, and it's especially horrid for young children who aren't yet old enough to drive. I can't imagine just driving to stores and driving home, never once passing by a friend on the street and having a spontaneous chat. It's a very lonely existence they live. No wonder their country is heading the way it is.
having a car means you can move far, far away from these morons, anon, it also means if they run into you they get hurt quite a bit more :^) >I just LOVE the HUSTLE and BUSTLE of the CITY!
Add trees and parks to your barren suburb and they are infinitely nicer. I lived 2 minute walk from Walmart growing up and it just meant I was a pro at dealing with vagabonds
That's moreso because they grew up raised by social media and internet. Suburbs have existed for more than your parents lifes
And now the thick fricking twats have actually managed to politicise the concept of walkable cities. Because somehow the stance on getting off your fat arse is measured on the political spectrum apparently.
>Because somehow the stance on getting off your fat arse is measured on the political spectrum apparently.
for americans EVERYTHING has to be measured on the political spectrum, global warming, abortion, gays, roads, everything is political
>. Car-centric infrastructure just destroys any sense of neighborhood community,
No, multiculturalism does that.
What I find funny about these "cities used to be great" threads is that for the last sixty years, leftists have run most of the big cities in the US, and they pine for cities to be like they were when they were run by conservative white men. Meanwhile they blame their busted sidewalks that haven't been repaired in half a century on Republicans who live a hundred miles away. Does your city suck? Take a look at who you keep voting to run them.
Serious question:
Have you ever considered that you just don't know what you're talking about?
That Americans like their country the way it is for valid reasons?
Americans all hate their country. They think [rival political party] has turned it into a 3rd world shithole. You all admit this when you're not circling the wagons around the assault from the filthy Europoors. You live in an unnatural, inhumane, fundamentally sick society. Increasingly, Europeans are too, which is terrible, but it's terrible because we're emulating you.
Ah yes, unlike the famously politically united Europeans. When was your c**t's last civil war? Because ours was a century and a half ago. Just sit down.
>When was your c**t's last civil war?
Frick germany
destroy germany
exterminate germany
reminder that germany is responsable for every disaster that has befall on europe
I live in a majority white medium sized town with libertarian type laws. I wouldn't wanna live anywhere else in the world especially cause governments are too intrusive elsewhere. Being American is s blessing, only we can truly be patriots
>That Americans like their country the way it is for valid reasons?
And how come they are always complaining about nogs, gays and muh guvment' all the time
You can literally just control + f "Black folk" in this thread and you will find at least 14 americans
complaining about them >"WE NEED TO HAVE CARS BECAUSE Black folk AAAGGGGGH!!!"
Without trolling I feel bad for americans.
I have family living in San Antonio Texas, went to visit plenty of times. The truth is that USA is a truly wonderful country, it's big, wild, there's plenty of things to do and to see. The nature is beautiful. It could be the best country in the world easily but the urban planning is just awful. It's dystopic.
Americans don't realize how much a slave you are when you need a car for EVERYTHING. Kids are tied to their house if the mom can't drive them everywhere. Everything is far and a hassle to go to.
The cities aren't welcoming at all, you don't want to go to the coffee or restaurants or just walk around.
The suburbs are fake and awful, you can't make a real sense of community there.
You can live totally isolated from society. People are really paranoid about everything too.
I don't work on wednesday and here I always go for a walk the morning, I go to the street market twice a week, see the familiar faces. In the morning I can go take my coffee at the bar of all the brasseries there are in a walking distance. Walking 15 minutes to go to work with every service accessible is truly wonderful, after work I can go to the butcher, or the lady selling bio vegetables, or the bookstore, they always greet me and talk
I'm a physio the place where I work is on the small square with all the others commodities. My patients come walking. There's a sense of community in the neighborhood that's very nice. Kids play freely on the square. It's just a very nice way to live.
My daughter can go to the school by herself walking. I do have a car and use it on the week ends to go elsewhere or if I go outside the city. But there are many weeks I don't use it at all, commuting by walking or by bike is so much easier and nice.
In the USA I felt alienated and miserable for the months I spent there. American people are very nice and friendly but the whole urban planning prevents the country to be the best in the world in my opinion.
I love how you europoors are so smug, talking as if you're on some kind of moral highground back when you were 90%+ white homogenous society. Then the refugees and muslims came in and you're even more bigoted than our worst redneck stereotypes.
I walked to a McDonalds once when I was 12 and got questioned by the cops. It was so unusual for a middle schooler to be walking around he thought something was wrong with me like my parents abandoned me or something
Something similar happened to me when I was out jogging around 10pm. Cop rolls up asks me what I'm doing >going for a run >can I see some ID? >do you take your wallet with you when you exercise? >don't get cute with me
Frick cops
>do you take your wallet with you when you exercise?
Oh no officer, I usually take it with me so the little boy can get some workout too, gotta lift and turn those 20s into 100s
I assume it's recently built suburb, unless they purposely don't plant trees so they don't have to deal with leaves.
Idk, I would never live in such a hellscape, I had a panic attack driving through one, it's like a fricking maze, bunch of identical houses.
This is what they took from you. >wake up, walk to the village store and buy the farmers local produce >stop buy the local public house for a quick tipple and a chat with the publican >head by the church and help the vicar out with the village fete >kick back by a local stream and enjoy the afternoon, in your quiet peaceful village without any tourists or motor cars.
Europeans are really obsessed with bread.
It's just bread, homie. I ain't going to arrange my whole life around the notion of having it baked within walking distance.
If I was that crazy about it I'd just buy a bread maker.
This was a deliberate choice by the elites to destroy our cities. And now Americans think it's a WEF plot to restore them to their former glory instead of the entire nation becoming a series of parking lots.
>first picture
No nature only buildings as far as the eye can see >second picture
Nature, trees and grass stretching to the horizon with a few buildings and roads.
Might want to update your propaganda, I think you got your wires crossed.
Lol my car is from 2010. I bought it off Craigslist for 2800 dollars and I've put about 500 in it. Drove for 2 years and used it to drive hundreds of miles sometimes in one day. Have fun following train schedules, how do you go out to the woods?
Taxi to and from the woods isn't cheap. Not to mention you have to schedule the exact time for them to get you in advance because you're certainly not calling a taxi with no service. Living within parameters like that forever is hardly superior to dropping 3k and having a car for whenever wherever. You probably don't drive cause you're a sperg
3k for a car that with occasional maintenance will last me a decade. Yes I would take that deal that gives me freedom to go wherever whenever without any planning easily. If you could afford one you'd never go back
7 months ago
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you don't go anywhere
7 months ago
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I drove through 31 states last summer and this most recent summer I drove to Salt Lake city and then montana to visit my friend who moved there. In my trips I've seen Niagara falls, yellowstone, mount Rushmore, grand canyon, crater lake outer banks, numerous cities and other parks all with my wife who is going to birth my first kid this year. Sorry your life didn't turn out too exciting, and I did all of that with shitty wagie jobs so poverty is no excuse. I mostly go hiking great way to stay in shape
7 months ago
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no you didn't
7 months ago
Anonymous
There's a huge world out there bud don't miss out on it.
7 months ago
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"Occasional maintenance"
Yeah all right pal.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry you can't afford to drive. It amazes me how so may meth heads can afford to do it
7 months ago
Anonymous
I have a 2023 WRX. It cost me more than $3k. You haven't been in the car market for several years, clearly.
7 months ago
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I drive a 2010 kia rio5 that I got for 3k with under 90k miles that I bought 2 years ago. The driver didn't know how to fix a sensor issue that I got fixed quick for a couple hundred. Before that I drove a 99 dodge van that I also got for 3k that would lasted me longer had I not hit a family of deer outside the grand canyon
I had one of these 5min down the street where I grew up (belgian upscale rowhouse neighborhood). My mom would send me there to buy the daily baguette and carre. Between the whole family we would eat most of it for breakfast, then the left overs would be toasted for the rest of the meals.
Fast forward 25 years and I live in the US. If you find a bakery it's some pretentious garbage expensive shop with a fake french name with bad gender/grammar ("la petit boulanger"). The bread is enormous, too sweet, and feels stale even when it's supposedly fresh (no way they baked it overnight).
I want to go to Europe (Germany) and try pumpernickel bread. There's no such thing as rye bread in America, even from hipster bakeries. It's all rye-style bread which is primarily wheat with a bit of rye added for "authenticity".
Nice fish-eye. He should have taken that photo with a flat lens, then the shops would be closer.
But then again, all the walmart nogs would be closer also.
>gets BTFO >seethes, cries, and sharts his pants
Typical eurangutan. Next time don't start some bullshit and you won't have to get destroyed, it's really simple. Learn your place.
You seem to be trying to make a statement that cities have gotten worse. And yet every picture shows that more and more nature has been added over time. This is just sad.
>My inner city neighborhood is unsafe because Republicans in the suburbs won't fix things for me.
WTF stops the people who live in cities and who run cities from fixing their cities? Why is it always the fault of people who don't even go to the city? >Oh no, some kid is playing backyard football with his friends instead of joining a city funded community league with diverse peoples in the middle of a urban zone an hour away. Must be racism!
I lived in an upscale suburb with family and it was a 15 minute drive along the highway. Annoyingly it was 15 minutes whether you went east or west. Then I moved to a shithole poverty town that looks straight out of True Detective and now I'm a 7 minute drive. Lots nicer.
You have to remember the American brain is drastically poisoned by heavy metals and diesel particulates, by the age of 25 they are approximately on the same level of intelligence as the orangutan from Dunston Checks In.
>broke uni student >live 2 km away from the bus stop >fricked up public transport, so i am there being crushed by fatsos >still have to take another bus after that one >do around 80 minutes from home to uni >cannot work because of uni's fricked up schedules (still have a scholarship so uni is almost free) >even if working could be plausible, i still would need a car to make it possible to transport comfortably to both work and uni >even though we live in suburbia, we have been getting poorer through the years
i just want a wfh job so bad, bros
I'm so tired of you homosexuals acting like this is some elephant vs. donkey thing when YIMBYs shit on the DNC for being corporate sellout NIMBYs constantly.
Did you see the other a non posting photos of old cities vs the new parking lots? That was a deliberate policy choice to make Americans addicted to gasoline. America has destroyed entire nations in the name of petroleum. It is an egregore which controls the USA.
>Everyone in Norway enjoys the right of access to, and passage through, uncultivated land in the countryside. The right is an old consuetudinary law called the allemannsrett (lit. the everyman's right), that was codified in 1957 with the implementation of the Outdoor Recreation Act. It is based on respect for the countryside, and all visitors are expected to show consideration for farmers and landowners, other users and the environment. >In Sweden allemansrätten (lit. "the everyman's right") is a freedom granted by the Constitution of Sweden. Since 1994 the Instrument of Government says that notwithstanding the right to own property "everyone shall have access to nature in accordance with allemansrätten". What this means is not further explicated on in the constitution, and only sparsely in other legislation. In practice, allemansrätten is defined as actions that are not crimes, will not make a person liable to pay damages, nor can be prohibited by any authority. >Like other Nordic countries Icelandic law contains a version of the freedom to roam, the right to access uncultivated land and pick berries. "It is permissible to cross uncultivated private property without seeking any special permission, but landowners may limit routes with signs or other marks. State-owned land such as conservation areas and forestry areas are open to everyone with few exceptions. These exceptions include – but are not limited to – access during breeding seasons or during sensitive growth periods". >In St. Louis, Missouri, the government banishes many unhoused people and other vulnerable populations from large areas of the city. These areas include public land and many of the organizations that provide shelter, meals, and care to St. Louis’s homeless people. Those who violate the orders have been jailed for months.
It would only take 30 to 45 minutes for me to walk to my local Wal-Mart but I'd be sweaty as frick by the time I got there and it wouldn't be worth it.
>it's everyone else's fault i chose to live so far away from everything
Kinos about a dystopian car centric society?
I don't want to live within walking distance of a Walmart.
Funny how nice things get once you are 20 miles away from one.
Our great grandparents had to walk 5 hours into town if they wanted to buy anything. Going anywhere was an entire days effort. Even our most inconvenience would blow their minds if they could see us now.
Your great grandparents weren't morons and lived in 15 minute cities.
Yes yes good goy, you have taken to the programming very well. Here is your treat, dance like the good little monkey you are.
You're the one driving the Petroleum israelite to the Megamart every week, friend.
What's that, a city where it takes on average of 15 minutes for a Black person or crackhead to attack you?
The Chumscrubber
just wtf is wrong with americans and cars
>people in the 50s buy cars because they had money now
>suburbs get built around the assumption people have cars because they do
>pedestrian infrastructure and public transit that does get built is underused because people have cars
>cities stop funding things not related to cars
>boomers block anything resembling residential density because noise/muh property values/Black folk
>have to buy a car to exist now
we don't like it either anon. The most expensive parts of my city to live in are the old walkable parts because that's where people want to live
vivarium
i live in a flyover state and the grocery store is a 10 minute walk away. idk where these memes come from.
ypipo don season they neighborhood
Libshits who have panic attacks when they leave the city
lol, just get a car. How can you live without one?
Vgh... the american dream
>Dahir Insaat
Finally some kino
based Dahir Insaat
For me it's the flying train
>no benefits over a train
>none of the benefits of a plane either
They're doing that so that their child doesn't have to ride a bus home with Black folk
If your bus has Black folk your parents failed to make enough money to live in a place without them. You are a Black person if you are poor.
only Black folk are Black folk
they literally import Black folk into white schools and fancy schools use Black person students as a selling point to rich leftest parents
absolutely disgusting
no wonder there are mass shootings every week
thats a school. how else is a situation where hundreds of people who cant drive and need someone to pick them up all at the exact same time so they dont have to walk and get raped and murdered by Black folk supposed to go down?
bus
there are Black folk on the bus too anon
They're in cars driving through red lights at a cross roads as well though, you can't escape them.
All schools offer bus services
that area looks too sparsely populated to make bussing work. I took a bus to school but I grew up in Chicago
My HS was in a pretty developed part of the city (malls and shit within walking distance) and we never had huge pileups like that. Drop offs and pickups happened all over a 3 block radius, this system of dropping right to the door is moronic.
yeah im assume its some dipshit policy they have where kids arent allowed to leave the grounds without an adult or parent. i just walked to some random edge of the school and got pick up there
I'm sure this is a policy thing, probably after some dumbass kid walked in front of a car and got clobbered
There's a parking lot right there.
Park the car and walk to the school.
Then walk back to the car and go home.
i didn't realise they were so rich
Wtf? Like rats in a cage
They PAAAAVED paradise....
TO BE FOREVAAAAAAAA-
nothings changed then
so? you still had to drive there
why do they even build that gigant parking lot
what fricking waste of space
Most likely answer is businesses built in that city have a code with a minimum parking requirement based on expected peak occupancy. So theoretically if everyone decided to shop at all those places at the same time the lots would be full
You're definitely not free until you have a car.
Actually don't get what the issue is and im euro. This is kind of satisfying.
What's the issue here?
>t. Dane
people are paying for no Black folk not for a walmart in their back yard
cant you just order your shit online now anyway?
>can afford to live in a large detached house
>can't afford a car
Yeah right.
That would be like 20 minutes on a bike.
>citygay bugmen literally cannot comprehend the concept of owning a car
I buy groceries for the week in one day, it takes 45 min. and we don't run out of anything because we're not morons. Imagine running out of bread.
>I buy groceries for the week in one day, it takes 45 min. and we don't run out of anything because we're not morons. Imagine running out of bread
HOLY SHIT KEK THE AMERIMUTT CANNOT COMPREHEND THE CONCEPT OF FRESH DAILY BREAD
How much bread are you going to eat in a day?
American bread lasts several months before going bad if you store it in a try place. Sorry you live in a shithole where everything starts molding 5 seconds after you buy it.
>American bread
so not real bread
Sorry our bread doesn't have snails and dick cheese baked into it, Pierre.
What's with American food never getting spoiled anyway?
trash never spoils
I make my own bread if I feel like doing that, yuroisraelite. But usually that's too much and wasteful if no one's coming over. Nothing beats the convenience of a slice from a preserved loaf. Do yumorons really have to go down the street and buy a new slice of bread every time they want one? Literal insanity.
>no one's coming over.
Why not? Don't they have cars, thus making it easier to travel to your friends and spend time with them? Surely cars foster a stronger sense of friendship as a result, and America is a nation of close-knit communities?
>you own a car therefore you must spend all your time driving to other people's houses and never be at your own relaxing with your own family
What kind of logic is that? You're actually mentally ill. Yes my family often comes to my house, they're not there 24/7 though. I know you yuropoors like to pack like sardines in the dirt floor huts in your villages, but that's not how we do things in the first world.
>flour, water, salt and yeast frightens the euroid
How do you get fresh bread?
Bunch of poors without cars in this thread. Maybe if you canceled your Netfix and Disney+ subscription you could afford a car.
Bro I don't need a car, everything is near me and there are beautiful parks and architecture everywhere I go, also I'm not American, wdym?
How do you not feel the desire to venture out of town when you want?
I can do that just taking a train
The problem there is you have to operate on a schedule the train decides for you. A car is what makes a man truly free.
>can only go where the state decides to build roads and where the state decides there can be a gad station
lmao
>A car is what makes a man truly free.
You drive in a massively regulated cuck cage along massively regulated roads and you have to be licensed and registered by the government for the privilege.
you were found too unstable for a license weren't you
No, I drive a cuckcage.
>you were found too unstable for a license
that doesn't happen right?
you are paying for a license, so you get a license
You say that like it's hard to get a license. Also
How do you venture out without roads? Delving into nature still requires parking outside it most times. Imagine literally criticizing highways the system that literally gave man the ability to roam without spending his life's earnings
Americans don't even have the right to roam. In Scotland, you can walk on any unused land you want. In America, the cops will shoot you for "trespassing" on unused land.
>Delving into nature still requires parking outside it most times
Sorry my country is enormous. I've got 6 different state forests I can drive to each within a couple hours before I even reach a border into another state. Have fun staying stuck in your town for the majority of your life
how about not turning the nature into a parking lot
>In Finland, the freedom to roam and related rights are called "jokamiehenoikeus" (every man's right) and more recently this is being replaced with the gender-neutral form "jokaisenoikeus" in Finnish (everyone's right) and "allemansrätten" in Swedish (lit. "everyone's right"), similar to other Nordic countries.
>The right is not codified in any specific law. Instead, it arises from the principle of nulla poena sine lege - what is not illegal cannot be punished. Things that are not explicitly disallowed, are allowed by default.
>Everyone may walk, ski, ride a horse or cycle freely in the countryside where this does not harm the natural environment or the landowner, except in gardens or in the immediate vicinity of people's homes (yards). Fields and plantations, which may easily be harmed, may usually not be crossed except in the winter. It is also possible to establish outdoor recreation routes on private land, based on an agreement on the rights of use or by official proceedings in accordance with the Outdoor Recreation Act, for example.[2]
>One may stay or set up camp temporarily in the countryside, a reasonable distance from homes, pick mineral samples, wild berries, mushrooms and flowers (as long as they are not protected species). One may fish with a rod and line (only still waters), row, sail or use a motorboat on waterways (with certain restrictions), and swim or bathe in both inland waters and the sea. One can walk, ski and ice fish on frozen lakes, rivers and the sea. Income from selling picked berries or mushrooms is tax-free. Picking cloudberry may be temporarily restricted to local residents in parts of Lapland.[3] In the autonomous province of Åland the right to camp's inclusion in the right to roam was disputed, but since 2013 this is no longer the case.[4][5][6]
>Because American property rights include the right to exclude others, the freedom to roam does not generally exist in the United States.
>Because American property rights include the right to exclude others, the freedom to roam does not generally exist in the United States.
Get this you fricking europoor sissy
MY LAND!
MY HOUSE!
MY CAR!
MY GUNS!
Now frick off back to wherever mudvillage you came from
>Muh architecture
Why are you gay?
The Domestics
Our ancestors knew better than to let women speak in public. Every bad thing that has happened to society happened because women were given a voice.
My neighbors did this shit to me. I had my car parked in the same spot (on my side of the street) for a week since I was in-between jobs. At around 11 p.m. cops were shining flashlights outside my house. My NEIGHBORS called the police on me instead of talking to me like a normal person about it.
The HOA sent me a fricking letter because some other guy who has nothing to do with me parked in front of my house for a few hours, maybe to attend a party
>it's their fault i chose to live in a hoa
>lived across the street from school
>slept until 15 mins before it started
life was good
russian detected
I live outside suburbs of Houston and if you see someone walking to wal mart they're usually a black, old asian or moronic person
>Houston
what a fricking hell hole. may even be first on my list of places to nuke
Imagine what one good man with a belt fed machine gun could do.
>one good goy defending billion dollar corporation
>4free
>unironically defending joggers
Nigs don't act like that here because everyone is packing
Houston has probably the most car centric infrastructure I've seen outside of some las vegas burbs. Walking is legit dangerous
I live 5 miles away from my Mums house. I buy groceries and food there. I live alone in my flat. I haven't brought groceries here for months. I walk past the shops and don't buy anything. I just eat/cook at Mums cause it's cheaper that way
Okay?
I was just trying to show that for some people groceries at the place they live is a mythical idea. I walk hours, I walk past all the shops, I see all the stores where I could buy the groceries I want. instead I come home to an empty fridge, with no groceries, drink some water and go to sleep.
my point was just to show that there are ways of living where you walk 2 hours and didn't even buy the groceries !
ohhh yes!
hell yeah
mutts are fricking pathetic
>retvrngays hate cities while posting Roman shit
>when these ancient civilizations placed emphasis on cities
lol
Romans didn't have Black folk except the odd ethiopian slave and motor vehicles did not exist yet.
Must be like being burried alive in inland america. I mean your cities and towns look absolutely hideous anyway wherever you are, but having no sea breeze and being in some soulless flyover hellscape with hideous cardboard houses and fat, stupid and ignorant people around you and low quality food and meat products, in a barren landscape with no notable natural beauty or landmarks...
Well hats off to the people that wake up every day and do that
I grew up like that and I liked it. I hate cities, they stink and are full of shitskinned people. I'm currently working in one right now but I'll be moving back to the suburbs with my own house eventually. Much better, cleaner, more spacious, friendlier people, better community, WHITER. There really is no benefit to living in the dingy shitty full of crackhead nogs unless you're very rich and can afford to avoid them entirely.
Do you prefer to ride in the upper or lower flying saucer?
What's up with the pink one?
It’s the legendary Fire Stingray piloted by Samurai Goroh
Only the homosexuals can ride in that one, so buckle up.
15 minute cities sound great until you realize your locked in a city with a bunch of feral Blacks
it always seemed like a spoiled first worlder thing to b***h about this, this is unimaginable luxury for most people in the world. go to some commieblock Brezhnevkas in eastern europe, favelas in south america, or the insect hives in india, bangladesh, etc and ask them if they would like their own car and detached home that doesnt even share a wall with anyone. also, the problem with walkable cities was always crime and low social trust, look at the places where they work great: east asia, homogeneous bug people with shame cultures.
More 15 minute city propaganda. They're literally tricking the dumbest of us to think that having a car is a bad thing.
>Stroads
>car brain
>adam something
>Not just bikes
>city beautiful
>SUV bad
>elon musk bad
>truck bad
>15 minute cities
>urbanism
>car centrism
>car realism
>t. oilgoy bugman
You like Elon Musk, whatever your lifestyle is is shitty and for a person who doesn't need to socialize.
I still have no idea what a "stroad" is but just saying it makes me cringe. I hate everything about that pic.
I normally make fun of Americans but I do feel genuine pity at them for not even realizing how much better things could be. Car-centric infrastructure just destroys any sense of neighborhood community, and it's especially horrid for young children who aren't yet old enough to drive. I can't imagine just driving to stores and driving home, never once passing by a friend on the street and having a spontaneous chat. It's a very lonely existence they live. No wonder their country is heading the way it is.
but op is walking not driving you moron
>muh walkable cities
>muh 5 minute towns
>muh public transportation
Having a car doesn't even save you from these morons because they ride in the road as well
having a car means you can move far, far away from these morons, anon, it also means if they run into you they get hurt quite a bit more :^)
>I just LOVE the HUSTLE and BUSTLE of the CITY!
Imagine two men standing at the entrance with flamethrowers. Would their hair pop like popcorn?
based, nice to finally see some justice for slavery
It's the whole reason people 25 and under have no social skills and are addicted to screens. They grew up without a community to foster them.
Add trees and parks to your barren suburb and they are infinitely nicer. I lived 2 minute walk from Walmart growing up and it just meant I was a pro at dealing with vagabonds
That's moreso because they grew up raised by social media and internet. Suburbs have existed for more than your parents lifes
And now the thick fricking twats have actually managed to politicise the concept of walkable cities. Because somehow the stance on getting off your fat arse is measured on the political spectrum apparently.
The petroleum israelite has an iron grip on Americans. After all, the petrodollar is the only reason they have any relevance.
>w-why did you h-have to make it so p-POLITICAL?! racist!
>Because somehow the stance on getting off your fat arse is measured on the political spectrum apparently.
for americans EVERYTHING has to be measured on the political spectrum, global warming, abortion, gays, roads, everything is political
>the euroid has no concept of the Black, he has spent his entire life sheltered
Pray you remain sheltered for the rest of your life.
>. Car-centric infrastructure just destroys any sense of neighborhood community,
No, multiculturalism does that.
What I find funny about these "cities used to be great" threads is that for the last sixty years, leftists have run most of the big cities in the US, and they pine for cities to be like they were when they were run by conservative white men. Meanwhile they blame their busted sidewalks that haven't been repaired in half a century on Republicans who live a hundred miles away. Does your city suck? Take a look at who you keep voting to run them.
Serious question:
Have you ever considered that you just don't know what you're talking about?
That Americans like their country the way it is for valid reasons?
Americans all hate their country. They think [rival political party] has turned it into a 3rd world shithole. You all admit this when you're not circling the wagons around the assault from the filthy Europoors. You live in an unnatural, inhumane, fundamentally sick society. Increasingly, Europeans are too, which is terrible, but it's terrible because we're emulating you.
Ah yes, unlike the famously politically united Europeans. When was your c**t's last civil war? Because ours was a century and a half ago. Just sit down.
>When was your c**t's last civil war?
Frick germany
destroy germany
exterminate germany
reminder that germany is responsable for every disaster that has befall on europe
You did not answer the question.
Answer the question please:
Have you ever considered that you just don't know what you're talking about?
I live in a majority white medium sized town with libertarian type laws. I wouldn't wanna live anywhere else in the world especially cause governments are too intrusive elsewhere. Being American is s blessing, only we can truly be patriots
>That Americans like their country the way it is for valid reasons?
And how come they are always complaining about nogs, gays and muh guvment' all the time
If you go on /misc/ or Cinemaphile you will find that the majority of discussion on Cinemaphile about those subjects come from non-American flags.
You can literally just control + f "Black folk" in this thread and you will find at least 14 americans
complaining about them
>"WE NEED TO HAVE CARS BECAUSE Black folk AAAGGGGGH!!!"
Without trolling I feel bad for americans.
I have family living in San Antonio Texas, went to visit plenty of times. The truth is that USA is a truly wonderful country, it's big, wild, there's plenty of things to do and to see. The nature is beautiful. It could be the best country in the world easily but the urban planning is just awful. It's dystopic.
Americans don't realize how much a slave you are when you need a car for EVERYTHING. Kids are tied to their house if the mom can't drive them everywhere. Everything is far and a hassle to go to.
The cities aren't welcoming at all, you don't want to go to the coffee or restaurants or just walk around.
The suburbs are fake and awful, you can't make a real sense of community there.
You can live totally isolated from society. People are really paranoid about everything too.
I don't work on wednesday and here I always go for a walk the morning, I go to the street market twice a week, see the familiar faces. In the morning I can go take my coffee at the bar of all the brasseries there are in a walking distance. Walking 15 minutes to go to work with every service accessible is truly wonderful, after work I can go to the butcher, or the lady selling bio vegetables, or the bookstore, they always greet me and talk
I'm a physio the place where I work is on the small square with all the others commodities. My patients come walking. There's a sense of community in the neighborhood that's very nice. Kids play freely on the square. It's just a very nice way to live.
My daughter can go to the school by herself walking. I do have a car and use it on the week ends to go elsewhere or if I go outside the city. But there are many weeks I don't use it at all, commuting by walking or by bike is so much easier and nice.
In the USA I felt alienated and miserable for the months I spent there. American people are very nice and friendly but the whole urban planning prevents the country to be the best in the world in my opinion.
it's nice that our vassals are doing so well
Their whole culture is based around avoiding black people. It's quite pathetic
I love how you europoors are so smug, talking as if you're on some kind of moral highground back when you were 90%+ white homogenous society. Then the refugees and muslims came in and you're even more bigoted than our worst redneck stereotypes.
Who wouldnt? They ape out like pitbulls
t.euro
>ape out like pitbulls
Or like chimps?
They are smarter than Blacks though.. truthfully it sounds pretty offensive to chimps..
Bet you don't live near any gypsies either
I walked to a McDonalds once when I was 12 and got questioned by the cops. It was so unusual for a middle schooler to be walking around he thought something was wrong with me like my parents abandoned me or something
I went for a nightwalk after moving into a new neighborhood and the neighbor called the cops on me. I'm white. It wasn't even late, it was like 9:30.
Something similar happened to me when I was out jogging around 10pm. Cop rolls up asks me what I'm doing
>going for a run
>can I see some ID?
>do you take your wallet with you when you exercise?
>don't get cute with me
Frick cops
THE LAAAAND OF THE FREEEEE
AND THE HOME OF THE LOICENSE
>do you take your wallet with you when you exercise?
Oh no officer, I usually take it with me so the little boy can get some workout too, gotta lift and turn those 20s into 100s
Just plant trees and it's 1000% better. Why no trees?
I assume it's recently built suburb, unless they purposely don't plant trees so they don't have to deal with leaves.
Idk, I would never live in such a hellscape, I had a panic attack driving through one, it's like a fricking maze, bunch of identical houses.
This is what they took from you.
>wake up, walk to the village store and buy the farmers local produce
>stop buy the local public house for a quick tipple and a chat with the publican
>head by the church and help the vicar out with the village fete
>kick back by a local stream and enjoy the afternoon, in your quiet peaceful village without any tourists or motor cars.
>basement dwellers complaining about the outside
Should live somewhere dense and walkable like Amsterdam.
Not my problem
Europeans are really obsessed with bread.
It's just bread, homie. I ain't going to arrange my whole life around the notion of having it baked within walking distance.
If I was that crazy about it I'd just buy a bread maker.
Bread maker bread doesn't compare to oven bread.
oohhhaa cant you seeeeeeee!
This was a deliberate choice by the elites to destroy our cities. And now Americans think it's a WEF plot to restore them to their former glory instead of the entire nation becoming a series of parking lots.
>first picture
No nature only buildings as far as the eye can see
>second picture
Nature, trees and grass stretching to the horizon with a few buildings and roads.
Might want to update your propaganda, I think you got your wires crossed.
>bro just spend tens of thousands on a car then spend thousands a year on it
no thanks i'll just take a taxi when i need it
Lol my car is from 2010. I bought it off Craigslist for 2800 dollars and I've put about 500 in it. Drove for 2 years and used it to drive hundreds of miles sometimes in one day. Have fun following train schedules, how do you go out to the woods?
by taking a taxi learn to read
Taxi to and from the woods isn't cheap. Not to mention you have to schedule the exact time for them to get you in advance because you're certainly not calling a taxi with no service. Living within parameters like that forever is hardly superior to dropping 3k and having a car for whenever wherever. You probably don't drive cause you're a sperg
poor
enjoy feeding the petroleum israelite
it's like $5 each way. stupid american.
>noooooo but a 3 thousand dollar car is cheaper
3k for a car that with occasional maintenance will last me a decade. Yes I would take that deal that gives me freedom to go wherever whenever without any planning easily. If you could afford one you'd never go back
you don't go anywhere
I drove through 31 states last summer and this most recent summer I drove to Salt Lake city and then montana to visit my friend who moved there. In my trips I've seen Niagara falls, yellowstone, mount Rushmore, grand canyon, crater lake outer banks, numerous cities and other parks all with my wife who is going to birth my first kid this year. Sorry your life didn't turn out too exciting, and I did all of that with shitty wagie jobs so poverty is no excuse. I mostly go hiking great way to stay in shape
no you didn't
There's a huge world out there bud don't miss out on it.
"Occasional maintenance"
Yeah all right pal.
I'm sorry you can't afford to drive. It amazes me how so may meth heads can afford to do it
I have a 2023 WRX. It cost me more than $3k. You haven't been in the car market for several years, clearly.
I drive a 2010 kia rio5 that I got for 3k with under 90k miles that I bought 2 years ago. The driver didn't know how to fix a sensor issue that I got fixed quick for a couple hundred. Before that I drove a 99 dodge van that I also got for 3k that would lasted me longer had I not hit a family of deer outside the grand canyon
you now realise that Manchester by the Sea is a tier above arthouse and one of the most graphically real pieces of suburban fiction in human history
I had one of these 5min down the street where I grew up (belgian upscale rowhouse neighborhood). My mom would send me there to buy the daily baguette and carre. Between the whole family we would eat most of it for breakfast, then the left overs would be toasted for the rest of the meals.
Fast forward 25 years and I live in the US. If you find a bakery it's some pretentious garbage expensive shop with a fake french name with bad gender/grammar ("la petit boulanger"). The bread is enormous, too sweet, and feels stale even when it's supposedly fresh (no way they baked it overnight).
I want to go to Europe (Germany) and try pumpernickel bread. There's no such thing as rye bread in America, even from hipster bakeries. It's all rye-style bread which is primarily wheat with a bit of rye added for "authenticity".
I want a briochette?, a triangle cake a some brownie
If you want a walk just park a little way away from the Wal-mart and walk the remaining distance of however long you care to.
Nice fish-eye. He should have taken that photo with a flat lens, then the shops would be closer.
But then again, all the walmart nogs would be closer also.
this thread is abhorrent
>gets BTFO
>seethes, cries, and sharts his pants
Typical eurangutan. Next time don't start some bullshit and you won't have to get destroyed, it's really simple. Learn your place.
don't get how its so fast despite saging, I'm in a hidden society
You seem to be trying to make a statement that cities have gotten worse. And yet every picture shows that more and more nature has been added over time. This is just sad.
>cities have gotten worse
That's true.
>My inner city neighborhood is unsafe because Republicans in the suburbs won't fix things for me.
WTF stops the people who live in cities and who run cities from fixing their cities? Why is it always the fault of people who don't even go to the city?
>Oh no, some kid is playing backyard football with his friends instead of joining a city funded community league with diverse peoples in the middle of a urban zone an hour away. Must be racism!
do americans only eat bread?
In reality it would be at most a 30 minute walk to the nearest convenience store from a suburb of this type.
>thread not bumping
Uh oh looks like the janny defense force is here to protect the stroads.
Disturbia. Pure kino.
I live in the suburbs and the closest grocery store is about a 10 minute walk from my house
I lived in an upscale suburb with family and it was a 15 minute drive along the highway. Annoyingly it was 15 minutes whether you went east or west. Then I moved to a shithole poverty town that looks straight out of True Detective and now I'm a 7 minute drive. Lots nicer.
>A M E R I C A N D R E A M
>PAX AMERICANA
>CARE NOSTRUM
You have to remember the American brain is drastically poisoned by heavy metals and diesel particulates, by the age of 25 they are approximately on the same level of intelligence as the orangutan from Dunston Checks In.
>the eurangutan, being fully BTFO and humiliated, is now confused and lashing out in rants about Americans, to no one in particular
>broke uni student
>live 2 km away from the bus stop
>fricked up public transport, so i am there being crushed by fatsos
>still have to take another bus after that one
>do around 80 minutes from home to uni
>cannot work because of uni's fricked up schedules (still have a scholarship so uni is almost free)
>even if working could be plausible, i still would need a car to make it possible to transport comfortably to both work and uni
>even though we live in suburbia, we have been getting poorer through the years
i just want a wfh job so bad, bros
maybe you can become a janitor for Cinemaphile they must earn a lot of money
What do you eat?
Meat, dairy, vegetables and fruit.
Why not just order the bread, he's clearly for a phone
Suburbs and cars don't make brown people go away. On the contrary, it allows more to come to your country.
>if you live in the city and walk to the store to get bread, less brown people will come to your country
Uhh.... sure.... thanks for the tip.
Yes you fricking moron. If white people never interact with them, they'll never recognize the problem and will continue to vote more in.
New England colonial style suburbs are the peak of living nothing can beat it
So what happens with older or disabled people in the walkable city meme scenario?
>So what happens with older or disabled people
Onions green
Nice filter you got there morons
Literally can't use the title of a movie
Why can't americans have a small shop per a suburb?
Suburbs are zoned for residential usage. Shops belong in commercial zones. Mixed use zoning is banned in most cities.
Point of clarification: I grew up in rural West Virginia so for me a "city" is anything with a population of 4 digits or more.
Why?
big oil and big car lobbied for it that's why
Why do the Democrats who run cities do what big oil wants them to do?
I'm so tired of you homosexuals acting like this is some elephant vs. donkey thing when YIMBYs shit on the DNC for being corporate sellout NIMBYs constantly.
Did you see the other a non posting photos of old cities vs the new parking lots? That was a deliberate policy choice to make Americans addicted to gasoline. America has destroyed entire nations in the name of petroleum. It is an egregore which controls the USA.
>Everyone in Norway enjoys the right of access to, and passage through, uncultivated land in the countryside. The right is an old consuetudinary law called the allemannsrett (lit. the everyman's right), that was codified in 1957 with the implementation of the Outdoor Recreation Act. It is based on respect for the countryside, and all visitors are expected to show consideration for farmers and landowners, other users and the environment.
>In Sweden allemansrätten (lit. "the everyman's right") is a freedom granted by the Constitution of Sweden. Since 1994 the Instrument of Government says that notwithstanding the right to own property "everyone shall have access to nature in accordance with allemansrätten". What this means is not further explicated on in the constitution, and only sparsely in other legislation. In practice, allemansrätten is defined as actions that are not crimes, will not make a person liable to pay damages, nor can be prohibited by any authority.
>Like other Nordic countries Icelandic law contains a version of the freedom to roam, the right to access uncultivated land and pick berries. "It is permissible to cross uncultivated private property without seeking any special permission, but landowners may limit routes with signs or other marks. State-owned land such as conservation areas and forestry areas are open to everyone with few exceptions. These exceptions include – but are not limited to – access during breeding seasons or during sensitive growth periods".
>In St. Louis, Missouri, the government banishes many unhoused people and other vulnerable populations from large areas of the city. These areas include public land and many of the organizations that provide shelter, meals, and care to St. Louis’s homeless people. Those who violate the orders have been jailed for months.
It would only take 30 to 45 minutes for me to walk to my local Wal-Mart but I'd be sweaty as frick by the time I got there and it wouldn't be worth it.
To any anons interested in a movie about suburbia, The 'Burbs is good. Jerry Goldsmith made the ost.
you guys don't have public transportation?