I wanted to but I lost interest. They took too long and the mid season break hurt them even more. Don't think I ever watched the Eve special either, I just don't care anymore
it was good but too many pointless sideplots about boring characters. Didnt leave me wanting more so i havent finished season 2 and probably never will.
That whole ordeal with mark helping the black dude take over his old boss... Does that have any significance later down the road? Because if not then that is a lazy ass way to develop Mark's character
In the one instance you picked yes both Titan and Machine Head are meaningless to the main plot but Battle Beast (one of the mercenaries Machine Head hired and the one who beat Mark) is among the top 5 significant characters for later on, that sideplot is his introduction
they should have picked a better way to introduce the mercenary then because the way I see it titan and machine head were much more significant then he was. At the very least they could find a way to work titan into the rest of the show. That would be much more interesting than the other pointless side plots like marks mom crying for 10 episodes or amber working in a soup kitchen
Also the show is all about subverting expectations, and introducing one of the most important characters for the plot the way they did for Battle Beast is one of those ways to subvert expectations, later on you'll be like "holy shit this guy was Machine Head's mercenary????"
Like it or hate it you can at least rest assured all arcs are relevant eventually (except Mark's mom and Amber's yeah)
Well yes obviously that's why it's significant, thats what I meant when i said "develop Mark's character". I just feel like if you take an entire episode to introduce this whole sideplot with characters it should at least have some significance of its own aside from just being a building block for the main characters personal development
>you NEED to use every single second of screentime to the main plot otherwise it's a bad show
the show gets exhaustive and predictable if everything is part of the main plot
self contained side plots are great if done in moderation and if they are fun
they are fun if they actually have some ripple effect in the world. If there is actually some point to any of it. But don't expect me to enjoy a side-plot that goes absolutely nowhere. It doesn't have to connect back to Mark directly, there is an entire world around him
Again it did have significance, it just hasn't come to light yet. A lot of what happened in s1 will only be relevant in s3 or even s4.
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you already said only the mercenary comes back, I don't see that as significant when he was basically a side character of the side plot I'm being critical of
also yes I guess side plots can be fun simply for the sake of being fun, but that one wasn't particularly "fun" imo. It didnt make me laugh, it wasn't interesting just for the sake of being interesting, it was just there. A good side plot example is the California detour that the police woman in Fargo season 3 makes. Ultimately it was completely pointless but it was fun to watch and the (pointless) characters were actually developed and fun
The side plot is interesting because it shows the Mark is inexperienced and juvenile, he thinks he can just go around "defeating the bad guys" but he ignores that this could create power vacuums that put even worse people in charge of the city
Also you need to consider that Invincible is based on a very old comics that were very innovative for their time and pretty much set the pace for super hero stories from there onward. Back then that sort of side plot was brilliant. It may not seem innovative if you're watching the show based on it in 2024, but even then I think it holds up pretty well
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>The side plot is interesting because it shows the Mark is inexperienced and juvenile, he thinks he can just go around "defeating the bad guys" but he ignores that this could create power vacuums that put even worse people in charge of the city
ALSO (forgot to include it in this post) but it sets the mood for Invincible as a whole. It reinforces that this is a mature story where actions have consequences, it's not just "go beat the bad guys and save the world" like your average superhero story. It is not as simple, it's not always black and white etc etc. If that side plot took place in season 2 it would be pointless, but it actually happened in mid season 1 when it was still setting the tone.
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That tone was set from the first episode. They shouldn't need to be hammering it home that late in the show
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Eh now you're being disingenuous, this is the first time they hammer the point of moral ambiguity among villains, you're pretending it is somehow in s1e1 just to b***h about that side plot
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>this is the first time they hammer the point of moral ambiguity among villains,
Among villains that literally do not fricking matter and have no plot significance, so tell me why I should care??? Like I said if there was some sort of ripple effect or something of that nature then I could see it having a purpose but don't act like they are developing a "mature" story when they just completely forget next episode what they made out to be a "villain" in the former one. >but that's the whole point of the show subverting expectations that earth drama is important
not that you were actually going to make this point but if you were that's stupid. If earth drama isn't important then don't spend so much goddamn time on it
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Anon for frick's sake they are parodying super hero stories, they have a "villain of the week" going on every now and then, it's for less than 10% of overall the screentime, stop being a little b***h holy frick
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nah frick your stupid show, it's shit
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It's not interesting because we already knew that Mark was inexperienced and juvenile, that is an essential part of his character from the moment he gets his powers. That side plot is just there to further enforce it for people who weren't paying attention. There is nothing that plot accomplished that made it worth an entire episode, especially when basically none of the characters it introduced will be making any other appearance
>Also the show is all about subverting expectations
LMAOOOOOOOOO
that is the stupidest fricking reasoning you could possibly give for lazy writing. If you wanted me to give season 2 part 2 a chance don't shill me the subverting expectations trope
Absolutely nobody watched season 2
I don't believe in you, it is Amazon Prime's best show
I wanted to but I lost interest. They took too long and the mid season break hurt them even more. Don't think I ever watched the Eve special either, I just don't care anymore
Too bad anon the second season's later half is the show's best moment so far
I'll probably watch it eventually but idk. It's probably just a me problem though lately I'm too depressed to enjoy anything lol
I liked the Eve special better than the 2nd season
i watched it but i shouldn't have. nothing but padding.
why do you you morons just say blatantly false shit like this, im sure you can find better copes
I had the time to read all the comics and forgot most of it between the season 1 and 2
stay tuned for season 3 part 1 in 2027, and part 2 in 2028!
it was good but too many pointless sideplots about boring characters. Didnt leave me wanting more so i havent finished season 2 and probably never will.
That whole ordeal with mark helping the black dude take over his old boss... Does that have any significance later down the road? Because if not then that is a lazy ass way to develop Mark's character
This show has little meaningless sideplots
In the one instance you picked yes both Titan and Machine Head are meaningless to the main plot but Battle Beast (one of the mercenaries Machine Head hired and the one who beat Mark) is among the top 5 significant characters for later on, that sideplot is his introduction
they should have picked a better way to introduce the mercenary then because the way I see it titan and machine head were much more significant then he was. At the very least they could find a way to work titan into the rest of the show. That would be much more interesting than the other pointless side plots like marks mom crying for 10 episodes or amber working in a soup kitchen
Eh the show already has way too many antagonists
Also the show is all about subverting expectations, and introducing one of the most important characters for the plot the way they did for Battle Beast is one of those ways to subvert expectations, later on you'll be like "holy shit this guy was Machine Head's mercenary????"
Like it or hate it you can at least rest assured all arcs are relevant eventually (except Mark's mom and Amber's yeah)
>Does that have any significance later down the road?
It's significant in that it shows Mark is still a young moron.
What could you possibly be referring to?
Well yes obviously that's why it's significant, thats what I meant when i said "develop Mark's character". I just feel like if you take an entire episode to introduce this whole sideplot with characters it should at least have some significance of its own aside from just being a building block for the main characters personal development
>you NEED to use every single second of screentime to the main plot otherwise it's a bad show
the show gets exhaustive and predictable if everything is part of the main plot
self contained side plots are great if done in moderation and if they are fun
they are fun if they actually have some ripple effect in the world. If there is actually some point to any of it. But don't expect me to enjoy a side-plot that goes absolutely nowhere. It doesn't have to connect back to Mark directly, there is an entire world around him
Again it did have significance, it just hasn't come to light yet. A lot of what happened in s1 will only be relevant in s3 or even s4.
you already said only the mercenary comes back, I don't see that as significant when he was basically a side character of the side plot I'm being critical of
ok i wont
also yes I guess side plots can be fun simply for the sake of being fun, but that one wasn't particularly "fun" imo. It didnt make me laugh, it wasn't interesting just for the sake of being interesting, it was just there. A good side plot example is the California detour that the police woman in Fargo season 3 makes. Ultimately it was completely pointless but it was fun to watch and the (pointless) characters were actually developed and fun
The side plot is interesting because it shows the Mark is inexperienced and juvenile, he thinks he can just go around "defeating the bad guys" but he ignores that this could create power vacuums that put even worse people in charge of the city
Also you need to consider that Invincible is based on a very old comics that were very innovative for their time and pretty much set the pace for super hero stories from there onward. Back then that sort of side plot was brilliant. It may not seem innovative if you're watching the show based on it in 2024, but even then I think it holds up pretty well
>The side plot is interesting because it shows the Mark is inexperienced and juvenile, he thinks he can just go around "defeating the bad guys" but he ignores that this could create power vacuums that put even worse people in charge of the city
ALSO (forgot to include it in this post) but it sets the mood for Invincible as a whole. It reinforces that this is a mature story where actions have consequences, it's not just "go beat the bad guys and save the world" like your average superhero story. It is not as simple, it's not always black and white etc etc. If that side plot took place in season 2 it would be pointless, but it actually happened in mid season 1 when it was still setting the tone.
That tone was set from the first episode. They shouldn't need to be hammering it home that late in the show
Eh now you're being disingenuous, this is the first time they hammer the point of moral ambiguity among villains, you're pretending it is somehow in s1e1 just to b***h about that side plot
>this is the first time they hammer the point of moral ambiguity among villains,
Among villains that literally do not fricking matter and have no plot significance, so tell me why I should care??? Like I said if there was some sort of ripple effect or something of that nature then I could see it having a purpose but don't act like they are developing a "mature" story when they just completely forget next episode what they made out to be a "villain" in the former one.
>but that's the whole point of the show subverting expectations that earth drama is important
not that you were actually going to make this point but if you were that's stupid. If earth drama isn't important then don't spend so much goddamn time on it
Anon for frick's sake they are parodying super hero stories, they have a "villain of the week" going on every now and then, it's for less than 10% of overall the screentime, stop being a little b***h holy frick
nah frick your stupid show, it's shit
It's not interesting because we already knew that Mark was inexperienced and juvenile, that is an essential part of his character from the moment he gets his powers. That side plot is just there to further enforce it for people who weren't paying attention. There is nothing that plot accomplished that made it worth an entire episode, especially when basically none of the characters it introduced will be making any other appearance
Never have I ever seen a show that had more forced hype than this
>Also the show is all about subverting expectations
LMAOOOOOOOOO
that is the stupidest fricking reasoning you could possibly give for lazy writing. If you wanted me to give season 2 part 2 a chance don't shill me the subverting expectations trope
Titan and Machine Head are not from season 2 part 2 moron
I realise that. But you said the show is all about subverting expectations. I'm assuming season 2 part 2 is still part of the show
And I assume you watched it until season 2 part 1, so you should know by now how the show works
I do. My only point is that if you are trying to convince me part 2 is worth watching, you arent doing a very good job of it
Then don't watch it
Watch the Eve special then call it a day
The cute girl at work told me this is one of her fave shows. Should I watch it
Just watch episode 1 to the end it has the greatest episode 1 plot twist of the history of fiction
>start season 2
>evil invincible and his dad taking over the world
>theres multiverses
Yeah, dropped. Multiverses are the dumbest shit, frick capeshit for continuing to roll with that garbage.
how are you going to satirize the superhero genre without multiverses?
make your case then, why is it the best tv show ever??
Let me break it down for you