Best war movies that are loved by servicemen yet are actually anti war and makes fun of them without them realizing? Let's get the obvious one out of the way in OP
Best war movies that are loved by servicemen yet are actually anti war and makes fun of them without them realizing?
Its not "making fun".
Yes it is
No it's not
Don't waste your time the dude is clearly moronic, I don't think theirs any war movies that genuinely make fun of veterans.
>I don't think theirs any war movies that genuinely make fun of veterans
They all do. They're the biggest joke going.
>Muh war! Muh legs! Muh benefits!
You knew the risks when you signed up to be cannon fodder. Get in your fricking grave and stop leeching off the state.
Boohoo, did some marine frick your girlfriend? Lol
Why would she frick a crippled moron when she has a Chad at home?
You haven't thought this through.
>signed up
moron. though your logic does work for any US war post-Vietnam. you'd have to be a god damned moron to sign up
>I don't think theirs any war movies that genuinely make fun of veterans.
Dr. Strangelove is much closer to "making fun" of the military than Full Metal Jacket. "making fun of" in the sense of the idea that acts of perceived heroic patriotism can lead to insane paranoia and laughably foolish mistakes.
Yes it is lol
No it's not lol
Yes it is
Jarhead is the ultimate serviceman blackpill
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Ironically made me sign up.
for some reason, veterans hate this movie. I'm an OIF combat veteran and I thought it was pretty good. Really nails the frustration of being in the military and 99% boredom with 1% pure adrenaline, except they didn't really get the adrenaline, just the boredom and a little combat teasing.
I think other veterans are triggered by this movie because they want people to think they were actually like the guys in Band of Brothers jumping into Normandy punching Nazis on D-Day when in reality it's just a bunch of shit heads jerking off hoping they can just get a glimpse of what they actually trained for.
There's one of this images where he says
>What are you going to do when you get home? I'm going to get a pizza with all the toppings and frick my wife doggy style.
>I'm going to rape my ex and commit suicide by cop outside the liquor store.
Or something to that effect.
>What, you don't like pizza?
>OIF
Damn the war hawks really missed the chance to name it Operation Iraqi Liberty, but I guess then the acronym would be too on the ~~*nose*~~...
It was called something tough sounding before it was rebranded to OIF in the middle of the war, but I forget what it was.
OIF combat vet here - the movie and book were so chock full of shit and urban legends I'm surprised there wasn't a scene where he gets court-martialed for shooting someone with a .50 cal, and he says "Oh no sir I was aiming for his belt! That's military equipment!"
Also add in the whole arc of the book being someone who sat behind the berm and didn't do shit during desert storm and yea
I never once heard the whole "no 7.62 or .50 BMG aimed at footmobiles" thing while I was in. An NG guy told me about it years later. Didn't say anything at the time but to myself was like "cool, I'm a war criminal".
It's not that it's a warcrime, it's just that they wanted you to use 5.56/7.62 on dismounts because it was a waste .50.
All I know is that if we got into contact, every gun that could effectively engage was running.
no, it's a bullshit urban legend. We drop bombs on people. Hague conventions only talk about banning hallowpoint ammo. You can hit someone with a fricking dshka if you want.
If you look at an actual OP order, it will tell you what vehicles are priority targets for different weapons systems. For instance, you'd prioritize your javs for armored vehicles, .50 for soft skinned vehicles, and 7.62/5.56 for dismounts for the purposes of avoiding wastage of more valuable ammunition types.
What probably happened was some senior NCO saw that order and didn't understand why or how restrictive that guideline was, and when asked by a junior enlisted, "Why?", blustered and said because .50 was only for "enemy equipment and not dismounts" and 20 years of GWOT telephone later, it became the urban legend it is now, which was what I was trying to say.
misread yours - but yes it's a cost/effectiveness strat not a fricking war crime like you said
>didn't do shit
I think that is the point of the movie. He had all this training and was constantly told to be ready cause shit was gonna happen but it never did. I was in after the surge and this was my experience too so I felt the movie resonate with me. It is what OP doesn't get about veterans, we usually are the most anti military part of the population. The whole system is a joke.
>veterans, we usually are the most anti military part of the population
Yeah, my dad and uncle's Vietnam-era stories really put me off joining, which I now kind of regret.
Anon, you made a good choice not enlisting.
>spent my 20s being a boring broke civilian
>no war stories
>probably woulda got laid
I kinda know what Milius meant when he lamented being sectioned out for asthma; "I missed my war". I was 19 in '03. Hell, I really missed out on the golden age of contracting, I'd be a millionaire by now.
This film still has one of the bleakest endings to a movie I've ever seen.
>I LOST MY WAY TO COLLEGE, SIR
Jarhead ending makes people have PTSDs because government doesn't care about you once the service is over. I wish I spat on my company captain on the last day.
t Finnish conscript.
most Nam vets really love Platoon and say it was the most realistic
How many nam vets were actually in the shit? Total forces were around 3 milllion americans deployed during the entire war. Id guess more than half of those were non-combat roles since they werent relying as heavily on contractors.
Jarhead
Its a pro military movie. It defends the military by making a case why it should exist in the first place. I ts not pro war but i wouldnt call it anti war in the activist sense
Pushups are such a lame useless exercise.
this was comically obese in 1987
For a soldier? Yeah, probably
Not in Ireland in 2001
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/diet-pill-takes-aim-at-frontline-waistlines/26064341.html
>"without them realizing"
Servicemen know better than you that the military deserves criticism. They like films like FMJ because they are relatable.
This might come as a shock to you, but most servicemen don't enjoy being shot at and would like to avoid actual war.
If you join the army and dont like war then youre in the wrong fricking organization.
t. someone who has never been in the military and gets his ideas about it from the movies
t. Coward who couldnt pass entry exams
Moo
Coward
See you're just showing you have no idea what you're talking about. Literal 90iq high school dropouts can pass the ASVAB
Fatasses like you cant
>stupid
>coward
>fat
boy you're just throwing out everything till something sticks aren't you buddy
so which one was it?
>what is a draft
You know that the vast vast majority of military operations don’t involve running around with guns, right?
All you gotta do is push a button.
Yeah, but those are gonna be earmarked for le brave courageous diversity whose cousins you're gonna be pretending to fight while (You) get marched into designated kill-zones for the blood ritual.
Been in the Military for 10 years, travelled all over the world on multiple operations. Never worried about having to shoot someone or being shoot.
This genuinely depends on the war and the reason for signing up. Americans during WW2 lined up for blocks to sign up after pearl harbor and afterwards were very proud to have served. People drafted during nam didn't want to be there and hated that their friends died for no reason.
No one wanted to be bogged down in afghanistan for 20 years defending a bunch of people that generally don't even care about their own existence. But if north korea or china invaded the US you bet your ass people would proudly join the fight again.
>if north Korea invaded the US
If this happens, I'm not signing up. I'm phoning the CIA to ask them to reduce the dosage of the LSD in my tap water because I'm starting to see some really crazy shit.
>Americans during WW2 lined up for blocks to sign up after pearl harbor and afterwards were very proud to have served. People drafted during nam didn't want to be there and hated that their friends died for no reason.
So it's just how the media presents it to you that makes it worth fighting? Interesting. Really shows you the power that media had in the 20th century. Thankfully we somewhat see past the typical tricks now.
>But if north korea or china invaded the US you bet your ass people would proudly join the fight again.
Depends on their intentions. Not everyone of prime fighting age is all that happy with the ruling powers right now.
pic unrelated
>would literally work in labor camps for communists rather than have biden be president
Your country isn't your government anon.
Why would you possibly think this dorky, boomer Red Dawn shit would play on Cinemaphile?
Funny, I didn't write Biden in my post but you assumed that's what was meant. The person in the White House controls only a small fraction of society and hence is only a small fraction of the problem. What exactly would young white men be fighting for when they fight "for their country"?
>ruling powers right now.
Democrats are the ruling power right now. Who the frick else could you be talking about? Unless you think some new world order involving the evil israelite is controlling military.
You want to know who controls the US military? The POTUS. AKA Biden.
Don't be a dense gay.
Literally e-girlng at this bluepilled cuck
You know knowledge can't be unlearned, right?
You think elected politicians are who controls everything in the country? And you are on Cinemaphile of all places making that laughable assertion?
pizza hut nostalgia is best nostalgia
I weep for a lost America never to return
That's a symptom of every child having never heard the word "glory" ever uttered by a man in power in his life.
Hang on a minute ... you mean to tell me that people who choose to shoot foreigners for a living out of some misplaced sense of patriotism are shit thick idiots?
No no no, this can't be right. They're our best and bravest. They couldn't possibly be embarrassing mindless cattle.
t. too fat and weak to pass military entry exams
Moooooooo!
Pacifism is for homosexuals
*Universal pacifism is for homosexuals.
For those governed by the great Satan, pacifism is simply moral.
>Pacifism is for homosexuals
Take it out on your boyfriend, Darnel.
> You are a coward
No, I’m just a pacifist
> Congratulations, you’re a coward patting yourself on the back
>quoting DBZA
Pacifism as in we shouldn't have a military at all? Yes.
Pacifism as in we shouldn't be sending our servicemen across the world to die to advance corporate interests? That's based and you're a homosexual if you think otherwise.
When your country tells you to go over and kill some turbanheads you dont say "Why" but "How many?"
but we gotta invite them over here when it creates a refugee crisis right? I'm a conservative so I don't care if you're brown, black , yellow or blue, if you believe in capitalism and freedom you're just as American as anyone else.
Those Afghani translators who helped our boys over there? Sure, they raped a few people before they even got out of the airbase, and they'll probably rape many more when they get out but we owe them. That's what kicking ass is all about; holding values where you happily relinquish territory to foreigners that generations before you c conquered and developed centuries ago
>I'm a conservative so I don't care if you're brown, black
You're a useful tool for israelites is all. God I hate you colorblind idiots, you must live nowhere near your beloved nigs
Literal zogbot take
>Pacifism as in we shouldn't be sending our servicemen across the world to die
That's isolationist, not pacifist.
it's important to recognize the difference tho. I stand by the US never should have entered WWII and simply played defensively.
>should
By what metric? It was a marvelously effective move for expanding America's influence, ensuring cultural and economic dominance for ~80 years. Maybe you don't swell up with pride knowing that YOUR country's billionaires are the richest in the world? That YOUR country's murder gang has the most murderous technology? That foreign born holders of YOUR country's passport are starting successful businesses in YOUR country, day by day, on YOUR dime?
What are you, a communist? A terrorist? Some kind of traitor?
>That foreign born holders of YOUR country's passport are starting successful businesses in YOUR country, day by day, on YOUR dime?
exactly why, one of a million reasons.
This has the be the most moronic shit I have ever read.
Even dumber than the one anon that believed the USA instigated the attack on pearl harbor and that the USA started the war.
There are some dumb mother frickers on this board.
USA didn't instigate the attack, but they didn't do anything to prevent it either.
holy tourist
>t. hates Vietnamese and Iraq war, but loves WW2
nothing misguided about it pussy
You will never be a woman
pacifism and anti-military is the kind of shit you should see on reddit. That's where the massive pussies and effeminate men are suppose to go.
Why is this board so anti-military? Is it because it's filled with a bunch of third worlders that have no sense of pride from where they come from or what? There is a reason the USA is a world power and India is filled with literal shit.
>pacifism and anti-military is the kind of shit you should see on reddit.
Why don't you go back and have a look for some?
because I want to avoid limp wristed homosexuals as much as possible.
don't you have some onions to drink or something. maybe the houthis will make you some special just for you pajeet.
You're an overcompensating faux macho chud.
People like me think you're an embarrassment.
>People like me
Oh no a completely worthless pussy doesn't think highly of me.
Thankfully slack jawed homosexuals like you don't represent the USA male population. Keep jerking it to trannies basedboy.
>Thankfully slack jawed homosexuals like you don't represent the USA male population.
Ummm .... Well, technically it's Black folk and israelites, but I hate to break it to you, but all white American men are slack jawed homosexuals.
yeah the anime website is definitely where all the uber masculine types go
lmao ya pinhead
Cinemaphile's not anti-military it's anti-ZOG
>anti-ZOG
not since maga
>people who choose to shoot foreigners for a living out of some misplaced sense of patriotism
I'll have you know i shot foreigners for free education and residual tax benefits thank you very much
ITT: Civies pretending they know anything about war or serving
>Let's here it for are brave buoys!
>A round of applause for our slopbrained lemmings.
Go and get blown up you knuckle dragging NPC thunderc**t.
imagine dying for israel
Imagine not getting into a comfy job where you do frick all but leech off of taxpayer money. My job isn't too different from being a NEET with a hobby except I get discounts and a lot of people like me if I say I'm military.
bump
How many good goy medal do you have ?
>goy
leave you go
Shalom my fellow Cinemaphilener
This board is filled with a bunch of slack jawed homosexuals that think the average person would piss themselves the first time they get shot at. They have no concept of bravery or courage and think everyone is a massive pussy like they are.
Many combat veterans are happy to tell you how they almost pissed and shit themselves the first time.
No one said they shouldn't be scared but the stories almost always go on to show great courage and strength despite being scared shitless.
t. Chickenhawk moron who would instantly have his spine shredded by a frag dropped from a $10 aliexpress drone
>concept of bravery or courage
Shooting on goatfrickers in some desert a ocean away is not bravery
>an enemy not only unafraid of death but willing to die for the beliefs
You're going against a fanatical opponent that wants nothing more than to put you into an early grave. Yeah, that takes courage.
>You're going against a fanatical opponent
Lulz. Ameritards are the biggest religious nutcases on the planet, you slop brained yokel!
>Muh c**try! Muh stars! Muh stripes! Muh gaaaawd!
Sit the frick down, you knuckle dragging neanderthal. If it wasn't for the British you wouldn't even exist.
pretending to be moronic still makes you moronic.
moron cope.
That doesn't even make sense. What the frick happened to you as a child.
>That doesn't even make sense.
You want to believe that people who pretend to be moronic are actually as moronic as you.
Keep up, Ameritard.
>dying in a fake war started by israeli overlords to increase profits is brave and courageous
Oh, I served. I served an 8 top with no potatoes prepped and they all ordered steaks. I was in the shit. You and I are not the same.
Listen you fricking homosexual don't you dare call me a civvie
I did multiple tours in KFC during bird flu, the shit I encountered there would make a civvie kill themselves
There's never been an anti-war movie.
>darkness
>imprisoning me
>all that I see
This man got a handjob from that woman so becoming a quadruple amputee with no eyes, ears or mouth isn't so bad.
this is a terminally online twitter concept that parody and satire cannot be enjoyed by the group being parodied or satirized. people arent that fricking moronic. they can tell and they laugh at themselves.
basically all of them. Apocalypse Now and FMJ are the big ones. Fighting men are jaded and stupid, so they're immune to parody. They only get angry at autismo shit like ribbon racks and uniforms being worn wrong.
Kubrick said he wasn't making an anti-war film, he just wanted to show what war was like. Whatever conclusion you arrive at by the end is more of a reflection of yourself
Never got the impression that the platoon hated Pyle for this. So you get smoked, who cares. Pyle's the guy you're going to be in the trench with, not the drill sergeant.
That's the exact reason the Platoon hated Pyle, he was a weak link constantly bringing down everyone else, he was the last person you want to be in combat with because of this.
if the other soldiers had committed as a team to improving Pyle's performance and refused to succumb to their moron impulse to bash him out of frustration Pyle could have turned into a passionate and skilled soldier and Drill Sarge would have been proud. they failed him, failed their unit, and woefully misinterpreted their instructions
Nah. Pyle should have been washed out.
yes anon, literally one of the points the film is making
I watched this with my sister and she didn't get it.
My wife just called it mean
My wife greatly enjoyed it
Your wife may be a veteran in disguise. Does "she" have limbs secretly missing? Does she sometimes have the thousand miles stare while making popcorn?
It’s impossible to show any level of war in a realistic manner that doesn’t intrinsically make fun of the idiocy and senselessness of it all.
>Billy looked inside the latrine. The wailing was coming from in there. The place was crammed with Americans who had taken their pants down. The welcome feast had made them as sick as volcanoes. The buckets were full or had been kicked over.
An American near Billy wailed that he had excreted everything but his brains. Moments later he said, 'There they go, there they go.' He meant his brains.
That was I. That was me. That was the author of this book.
war is a real shit show
I have little respect for military forces of any nation. But because I am American, I will shit on the American forces.
Americans get out of the military and have two trains of thought:
>I’m a HERO because I KILLED sandBlack person goatherders who definitely absolutely were threatening muh country!
>I’m a HERO because I DID NOT kill anyone and therefore I’m not complicit in the bad things America did! I sat in Norfolk and just wasted your taxes!
Or, number three.
>I’m not a hero or a villain, I just did a job that I was contracted to do for five years, learned a lucrative trade, did positive work (the birds I worked on were used for search-and-rescue during natural disasters, so go frick yourself with “I wasted tax dollars” nonsense), then I got out and went to college for free, got an extra little star on my driver’s license, and now only talk about my time in when I’m asked about it
You’re just a bitter frick with an extremely narrow understanding of what the military is and does.
thank you for your service
tyfys fr no cap
>so go frick yourself with “I wasted tax dollars” nonsense
>I got out and went to college for free
Yeah
>You’re just a bitter frick with an extremely narrow understanding of what the military is and does.
It definitely doesn't protect the integrity of the nation as one might expect it to, so yes, it's a total fricking waste.
>I am american
Sure you are pedro, sure you are.
This board is incredibly anti-military and wouldn't know a noble cause if it bit them in the ass.
Shut you're mouth you snooty British bastard. We saved you'reas in Germany.
Not really. America has an overinflated sense of the importance of its direct military action in the European theater. If the USA had never landed in Europe, Germany still would have never been able to invade England and was inevitably going to get its shit pushed in by the reds. Which would have radically changed history in a different way, of course.
Shut up with you're big words you pompus limy bastard.
Go and talk on you're British Cinemaphile/ Oh wait, you haven't got one because ytour country is run by muslims!
We shaved your ass and no dout we;'ll have to savit again.
I agree we should've stayed home so France, the low countries, Italy, Greece, Denmark, Norway, and West Germany could enjoy 3+ generations of communism and Soviet dominance too
and now they all get to be blessed by muslim immigrants. Communists would a better fate than what they are getting now.
You think America successfully thwarted communism? It was all a distraction to install zionism lol
>You think America successfully thwarted communism?
I think American intervention helped install liberal democracies in Western Europe and prevented them from falling into the Soviet sphere of influence.
I alluded to that in my post. I’m talking about the “America defeated the Nazis” narrative, specifically.
I'm aware. It's just funny to me when Euros gloat about America's late entrance into WW2, when they were saved from having Belarus/Ukraine tier poverty and corruption for decades.
It would have been better for us. We would be ten times less subverted than we are.
Average Ztard.
>movie messages are a binary of "film theme GOOD" or "film theme BAD"
You're moronic.
Also, admonishments of the horrors of war are going to be more evocative for people who've had real life experiences involving war. My grandfather was drafted against his will and obsessively watched Good Morning Vietnam over and over again.
The GWOT and all volunteer military has created this weird gulf in military movies between sanctimonious shit and ignorant shit. It's fine to dislike or even hate the military if you want, but when you've never served, no one in your family has, none of your friends did, and your only reference point for how good or bad it is comes from the media, it seems silly. At the same time you get these shitty elegies to Our Boys Over There as the country desperately tries to pretend it's still 1946 which are just as tone deaf and stupid.
Pic related is good but 9/11 killed the whole genre of military satire.
>oh, you chose to not sign away years of your life in an era where no just wars are being fought, so that you wouldn’t have to live alongside bottom of the IQ barrel latinos and monkeyblacks whose only hope of escaping poverty is joining up?
>and you refuse to get scream at by homosexuals who are only qualified to be in charge of you because they cheated their way through West Point during the covid lockdown?
>and you think it’s morally bad to kill third worlders an ocean and a continent away, even though our nation’s propaganda machine SPECIFICALLY TOLD YOU the goat herder is a threat to national security because he lives on his ancestral land that the UK went into and fricked up by plopping a new/old nation on top of?
>oh, and you really hate the thought of getting killed or injured in a nothingwar, despite if you get your legs blown off your boomer parents will be able to brag to their nursing home buddies about how brave you are?
>well I guess you can’t do the basic training that 80 IQ mongoloids, women, and the comically obese get through with ease, since all armed forces are obsessed with filling their billet numbers and will let anyone through
Wasn't the Taliban supposed to invade the US by now?
You taken at look at the border right now? homies are just walking across with AK-47s.
What do you care? Should be safe if you stay out of synagogues
You know what they say, art imitates life.
Right after all the polar bears melt.
Why was the 2nd half of this movie so shit? Literally remember nothing of it.
Explain how the rest of the movie would go if it solely focused on boot camp. you morons missed the point
Reddit
went to shit in the vietnam part
Ultimate midwit identifier
cope
explain an alternate reality where I liked the second half of the movie? I don't think so. the boot camp was kino psychological shit and the actual war paled in comparison. the first half was simply better, and that's the end of it.
Every soldier is anti war. You just don't understand the concept of duty
Duty to whom?
As a conscript I liked to watch Apocalypse Now.
But of course you'll never be more anti-war than when you are a conscript who has had 5h of sleep by Saturday.
>you actually have your own nuanced opinions? heh... woosh, amirite?
>makes fun of them without them realizing?
t. moron who thinks he's smarter than he really is
whats the point of punishing the group and not the individual?
So people in the unit hold each other accountable. Which is why Joker begins to mentor Pyle more
It's also because in combat you suffer as a group.
>fmj
>best anything
it's slop, undeniably kubrick's worst film
perfect for filtering pseuds though as they will blindly think it's an amazing film
I don’t know if it’s loved by servicemen necessarily but it’s probably the best Vietnam war movie of all time despite none of it taking place in Vietnam
is it better than this?
i just remember the soundtrack is the entire CSNY Deja Vu album
Let's see Paul Allen's 'coming home from Vietnam'-movie poster
PENIS MOM, GIANT FRICKING ERECT PENIS
Yes
And this
>makes fun of them without them realizing
>example was written by vietnam veteran
Maybe to an american, im from the balkans, and over here you wholeheartedly join in any and all war efforts. Over here you are fit for war as long as you can carry a rifle so everyones expected to pitch in. From young boy to old grandpa. You cant wage a war if everyones questioning it, why you focus on following orders. Only americans treat war as a luxury where they can pick what to have.
Can’t be damned to read if anyone has talked about it yet with all the schizoposting in this thread but nobody has posted it so I feel like this fits in here in some sort of convoluted mental gymnastics sort of way as a tongue and cheeky entry
good movie btw, insanely fricked up but still pretty fun somehow
it's a wild wild ride maaaaaan
I bet no one who has posted in this thread can adequately explain the 2nd half of the movie, and that all of you are of the opinion "it would be better if the boot camp stuff was the whole movie"
You're all chirpers who HATE IT or LOVE IT, and none of you understand it.
Reminder that white enlistment in the army has absolutely fricking cratered in the last five years
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/01/10/army-sees-sharp-decline-white-recruits.html
What's changed in such a short period of time? Whites were apparently okay with Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, Stop-Loss, etc. but just something since the year of our lord 2018 has made nearly half of them spontaneously go "Frick it, I don't want to fight for America anymore"
Empires don't operate on feelings. They were fine with those things because they believed they advanced their own interests.
the COVID vax
renaming every century old ship or base that had a Southerner's name on it
feminism/LGBT ally/BLM lessons being mandatory during boot camp
the Navy creating an entire class of ships all named after prominent American commies for some reason
those names are fricking kino besides RBG lmfao
Putting Earl Warren on there is so perfect, its almost like a joke
>In 2018, 56.4% of new recruits were categorized as white. In 2023, that number had fallen to 44%
yea but this is just true to the overall demographics of the country
America was majority white five years ago but isn't now?
White americans were abnormally high recruitment rates due to DJT back then
they are only 45% of young in reality
Nobody cares about afghanistan. Dirty muslims don't even care about their own country so why should anyone else. Just gotta wait until there is an actual reason to join.
>anti-vaxxer
yeah I'm sure everything you say is based on some solid logic and backed up with many studies and research.
>he fully supports the US military *AND* he's double vaccinated
holy fricking shit
lol
lmao
>proud to be an anti-vaxxer
You're literally a joke. I bet you think the moon landings were faked, trump's election was stolen, and the world is flat.
>let's just have a military without Republicans in it
it's a bold strategy cotton, let's see how it plays out
>Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Didn't play out very well for the Nazis.
>barack obama
osama bin laden didn't end up to well either.
>osama bin laden didn't end up to well either.
failed to end the afganistan war and helped destablize the middle east.
Delano Roosevelt
>Didn't play out very well for the Nazis.
The chief of his war department was republican and the politics and demographics of 1940s america is alien to 2020s america.
>>anti-vaxxer
>yeah I'm sure everything you say is based on some solid logic and backed up with many studies and research.
If you think the covid 'vaccines' were anything but a complete farce YOU are the moron.
>"I don't know the genesis of it." Agnes Schaefer, assistant secretary of the Army for manpower and reserve affairs, told lawmakers in December
They asked the obese israeli woman in charge of recruitment what went wrong and she didn't know
Working as intended
The purpose of a system is what it does.
>What's changed in such a short period of time?
The George Floyd riots. Tearing down statues with impunity, politicians encouraging it, the 'Ultra right-wing extremist' president doing nothing but tweeting, the police and the FBI kneeling on the rioting mob's command, the doctors who were clamoring for harsh covid lockdowns declaring the protests safe and necessary. The George Floyd riots were a turning point. How could you live through that and retain any patriotic sentiment? What would you even be defending if you went to war?
I used to find it ironic when the commander played "Born in the USA" by Bruce Sprinschteinberg which was clearly anti Vietnam and anti war, on the installation wide speakers during morale brigade and corps runs.
How the frick did Pyle get his hands on the ammo in the first place? They don't just give recruits live ammo to run around with just in case. They count every bullet they hand you on the firing range and make sure you shoot all of it. They have a guy behind you with a pistol ready to shoot you if you try any funny business. It's a major plot hole.
The boot camp hazing sequence was taken almost directly from a Japanese movie about WWII called "The Human Condition." It's the perfect thing to steal from because it's ten hours long. Everyone who "knows" the Marines hazed recruits to the point of murder and their evidence is this, is a homosexual.
Cinemaphile has gotten very gay with the vet hate the last few years. It's not a movie but the closest thing to my experience was Generation Kill. Captured the whole GWOT zeitgeist well, including the dichotomy between really, really wanting to employ your training and do the job and the uncomfortable realization that the war you are fighting is the wrong war and is likely unwinnable.
I second this. GK is the only somewhat accurate media representation of the Iraq war. Or "armed conflict" or "policing action" or whatever fricking way they want to dress it up now.
>vet hate
Nah. People just hate the nu-/k/.
Vets are mostly trash, buddy
If you think that's making fun of Marines you are dumber than most of them
SIR THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR!
I WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO SERVICE YOUR WIFE WHILE YOU WERE AWAY PROTECTING THE CIA'S DRUG ASSETS, SIR!
>anti war film
kek for actual service men no such thing
>making fun of young men drafted to die in a pointless war
okay
America is now offering all the illegal immigrants amnesty by becoming ZOGbots. The downfall of Rome is happening in real time for all of us to enjoy
Do vets not know how embarrassing it is to act like an internet tough guy on Cinemaphile of all places.
Full Metal Jacket is loved? I thought everyone agreed it was a pretentious piece of crap that stopped being interesting after the boot camp scenes.
Filtered.
People who don't realise why the movie feels like two separate films and why both halfs are juxtaposed the way they are are rrrrreddit as fuuuuck.
frick all the zoggies in this thread. even the bird training guy sounded like he had unbearable ptsd from getting bummed too much. you guys are such ridiculous homosexuals it's unreal
Lazy pricks.
#Bomberica #TAD #Burgerblast
I've heard 'We Were Soldiers' described as a pro-veteran, anti-war film.
any anti war sentiment in warkinos goes over their heads