>better than 99% of jap rubbersuit trash
>hated because not muh godzilla
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>better than 99% of jap rubbersuit trash. >hated because not muh godzilla
You know this movie must be shit because no one ever makes unironic posts saying they like it. The only time anyone pretends it's good is when they're shitting on other movies.
You know this movie must be good because no one ever makes unironic posts saying they hate it. The only time anyone pretends it's bad is when they're comparing it to old japanese movies.
Gottem
People who have never seen a Japanese movie watched this and thought it was shit. It's just bad and no amount of contrarian memeing is going to make people reevaluate it.
>It's bad it's bad it's bad do you believe it's bad yet?
Are you ok? Well, i say, the movie is good!
It's bad because it's boring, looks like shit, and has little entertainment value or redeeming qualities. It's garbage they made to sell merch, and even the audience of children they were aiming for didn't end up liking it so it bombed.
It's good because it's interesting, looks great, and has a ton entertainment value and redeeming qualities. It's a great movie they made to revitalise the stale japanese rubbershit, and even the audience of children they were aiming for ended up liking it so it got a cartoon series.
>even the audience of children they were aiming for didn't end up liking it
I can confirm. I saw it in the theatre.
The contrarian shtick gets old.
No one is saying it's bad. It's a good movie it's just not a Godzilla movie. If they had called it anything but Godzilla it would be in the kaiju pantheon with no conflict about it.
I wouldn't call it a "good" movie either, but it's a popcorn flick that was typical of Hollywood at the time, and there are a handful of Japanese Godzilla movies that are worse on an objective level. But like you said, it's not Godzilla. It's a just cynical rip-off of other popular action movies at the time like Jurassic Park, Aliens, etc. with the Godzilla name slapped on it. In all fairness, Toho does the same by making their movies fall back on referencing Godzilla 1954 whenever they're desperate to milk nostalgia.
It's because this is nu-Cinemaphile where you can't just make a thread about a topic. You have to make a thinly-veiled bait post as the OP that will make anons angry enough to keep bumping the thread.
Had a killer soundtrack, too
I'm going deeper underground
There's too much panic in this town
I'm going deeper underground
I had the soundtrack on tape, it was better than the movie
Just be honest about the fact that you enjoy it for nostalgic reasons and/or want to impregnate Zilla, no need to be contrarian.
>Zilla
Butthurt rubbergays
>rubbergays
It's funny how you think them being lazy and using CGI instead of practical effects is somehow better. You must be who those recent capeshit movies like The Flash are for.
iirc Godzilla 98 actually had a lot of practical creature effects made, but they were scrapped in favor of CG slop because they thought it would give the movie more prestige.
Go ovulate in the Time Square, Zillabawd.
I learned about the 1993 wtc bombings from this movie
Yeah, anons who remember 93 were very suspicious of 9/11
yeah what are the chances that the beacons of US "exceptionalism" were targeted not once, but thrice by terrorists whose homes that same country destroyed, fricking moron. not everything is a israeli conspiracy, poltard
This movie was such shit, they realized it abs hid what he looked like until after people bought tickets in advance. I remember the day it came out I saw Zilla at a Taco Bell display. Minute I saw his stupid ass I knew it was going to suck
Literally nobody ever thought this movie was good. Even in the late 90s it was known as a movie that spent a fortune on advertising but turned out to be awful. Only dedicated contrarians are claiming it's actually good 25 years later now that the Legendary movies have become pretty successful and popular.
>rubbergay weebs samegayging out of desperation
Lol!
Okay slavshits
>Zilla is a pussy mutant iguana that dies to a few missiles, then gets revived as a cyborg and gets his ass kicked by his chad son
>Roland Emmerichs entire gimmick is fantastical disaster movies
>even ripped off Halo for Moonfall
>but for whatever reason he thought two kaiju fighting didn't make sense
>human cast is insufferable like every other character in Roland Emmerich films
Above all else, we were denied Stan Winston kino thanks to severe executive moronation.
Toho should have sued Sony for defamation of IP
Toisraelite executives signed off on the design because the Heisei series was losing money, and they saw the opportunity to make big a lot of cash selling Godzilla to the gaijin. Then the movie bombed and they had to make G2K as an attempt to redeem the franchise.
I fricking loved that movie as a kid and I've seen it several times as adult and it's still a cool movie.
I would never understand the hate.
>I would never understand the hate
Literally just kaijuweebs screeching and that's it. It's one of the most unjustly hated movies out there
The fact that your pic related looks like a Nintendo Gamecube game may have something to do with it.
the CG looks great for its day, hell it still looks better than a lot of the marvelslop CG that comes out today
It looks good in motion, especially in the 90s.
Here's a japanese attempt at recreating it 6 years later lol
Zilla in Final Wars is just a scan of a shitty toy. They didn't bother making an actual model.
>Japanese filmmakers were to lazy to make a model that looks half as good as Nintendo 64 one
Owari da...
It's for a five second gag where the punchline is that the American movie was shit. Putting in more effort to make a model that would still look bad, like it did in the American movie, would be a waste of time.
Yeah and american godzilla movie is a punchline about the japanese godzilla being shit
Kek it was a good joke when their movie bombed and they lost all that money. Really showed the Japanese... somehow.
>Kek it was a good joke when they cried about cgi godzilla and couldn't make their own model half as good. Really showed the Americans... somehow
Yeah it was a good joke when they put a toy of the shitty CG Godzilla and had the real Godzilla beat the frick out of it kek. Glad we agree.
At least the millions of dollars '98 lost caused something positive.
Yeah it was a really good joke when they took a shitty cheap rubber zilla and redesigned it look like a real monster godzilla.
And they still cry about it even today, kek.
>when they took a shitty cheap rubber zilla and redesigned it look like a real monster godzilla.
They didn't redesign it, they just scanned the toy of 98 Muttzilla and put that in the movie for the gag.
Redesigning that thing to look like actual Godzilla would have to be a complete overhaul, the dino in the movie is just a t-rex.
What do you mean? 90s american godzilla movie literally redesigned the shitty rubber zilla. Are you dumb?
Oh you mean when they put a t-rex in their movie but called it Godzilla for some reason.
Wonder if people would have liked the movie more if they put actual Godzilla in it? Guess we'll never know because the people in charge wanted their movie to fail apparently.
Yah they called it Godzilla because the monster in the movie is named Godzilla. I'm glad they redesigned it to look like an actual monster instead of looking like a dude in a rubber suit like the japanese zilla
It's weird that they named it Godzilla when it's not the actual one. It makes sense audiences rejected it, it's a bizarre decision that probably came from out of touch marketers.
>when it's not the actual one
It's the one and only
>literally redesigned
No they didn't. It's a T-Rex. There is literally nothing that connects him to jap Godzilla design except the spine fins and those aren't even glowing. He never had lizard posture, he was never fast, his head if anything became progressively smaller compared to his body and was not an oversized boulder.
>muh redesign
That's not a redesign if you throw away everything that made the monster what it was. That's why it's called Zilla by the way.
>That's why it's called Zilla by the way.
Nah it's Godzilla, literally the name of the film. You can read, right?
Anyways,
>He never had lizard posture, he was never fast, his head if anything became progressively smaller compared to his body and was not an oversized boulder
Those are the limitations of using dudes in rubber suits, you know. This why all jap zilla designs looked that way, americans simply had the money and technology to improve their Godzilla design to look like an actual monster. And they succeeded.
>"actual monster"
>killed by some zogbots in fighter jets
Yeah no. Monsters aren't threatening if the military can just swoop down and blow them to smithereens. That's a fundamental problem with this movie. If it can be killed by conventional means then it's just a large animal.
>Shin was frozen by conventional means
>Shin is just a large animal
Anon did we watch the same movie?
>Those are the limitations of using dudes in rubber suits
And that's why he is still slow as frick in Legendary flicks? Lmao moron. That's part of design. Shit, that's part of the plot structure for the movies because Godzilla's travel time is what lets the military prepare. Not that goofy looney tunes shit, where a swarm of helicopters loses sight of a giant ass moose called Zilla.
>Legendary flicks?
Oh those flicks just suck off the rubbershit weebs.
They are infinitely worse that 90s Godzilla, although still better than most jap zilla ahit
You didn't answer the question. If it was just a rubber suit limitation, shouldn't Legendary be faster because of CGI? Or maybe it's something to do with the actual character design, moron?
It's not faster because, like i said, legendary flicks suck off rubbershit weebs. Can you read? Do you need a person in a rubber t-rex suit teach you the alphabet?
So it has something to do with actual core design of the monster that had frick all to do with rubber suit limitation and excels in CGI portrayal just as well. Meaning in
you're literally talking out of your ass, moron. Got it.
No, like i said, legendary flicks listened too much to the braindead rubbergay weebs, who wanted the monster to look and move like a dude in a cheap rubber zilla suit despite being cgi. It's not a part of the concept, after all, the only good Godzilla movie discarded it for the better
So it has something to do with actual design of the monster and not rubber suit limitations. Got it. Thanks for clearing it out.
Yes kermit has a prolapsed anus because it's part of the design and not a hole to stick the puppeteer's hand into.
They literally just digitally scanned a Trendmasters toy and called it a day for Zilla. I'm pretty sure making a model that low effort was part of the "Practical good, CG bad" joke.
>part of the "Practical good, CG bad" joke
Final Wars was just a giant, half-self-aware lampoon of the franchise overall.
Black person, get your eyes checked. It looks ok.
>MUH HECKIN VIDEO GAME GRAPHICS
Go back Cinemaphileirgin.
>I fricking loved that movie as a kid
Same, probably my most watched movie still, simply because I've seen it like 20 times as a kid.
But I tried rewatching it recently and it really isn't a very good movie, I couldn't even finish it. Still it's nowhere near as bad as it was made out to be.
It's hated because even back then everyone saw it for what it was: A cynical rip-off of Jurassic Park made by the director of Independence Day. It's a soulless movie made specifically to cash-in on toy and merch sales just like the Sequel Trilogy was in the late 2010s. It's 1990s proto-capeslop complete with the cornball one-liners and weird gross-out plot beats like the whole M-preg Godzilla thing. Fans hate it because it feels like a Godzilla movie made by people who only had a general idea of what Godzilla is from cultural osmosis, but never actually watched a Godzilla movie before in their lives.
>It's a soulless movie made specifically to cash-in on toy and merch sales
Just like the jap shit then lol
>Fans hate it because it feels like a Godzilla movie made by people who only had a general idea of what Godzilla is from cultural osmosis, but never actually watched a Godzilla movie before in their lives.
So it's literally nothing more than
>Not muh
Yes because when you put a brand's name on something, people expect it to be consistent with that brand's reputation. If the only thing you know about Godzilla is "giant lizard does stuff innacity," then G98 seems like the perfect movie.
It's funny how you accuse GODzilla being a soulless movie and then go on to talk about brands and brand reputation. Man, rubbergays must have brain damage from watching too much content for japanese toddlers
>from watching too much content for japanese toddlers
Unlike you, sitting here crying because people hated a movie for American toddlers.
>Kaijugay weebs
>People
Pick one
Crying about kaijugays in your Godzilla thread is hilarious. Do you have self-awareness? You're just a type of moronic kaijugay who thinks he's better than the others because you decided to be an edgy contrarian and choose one of the shitty movies as your favorite.
Yeah that it was advertised as something it's not was an issue for audiences at the time. The fact that it was really bad didn't help convince them to change their mind.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold it right there, dude!!! You mean to tell me this high-budget Hollywood action movie... is not art??
>Everyone is wrong and this movie is actually good! It's better than the Japanese movies!
>Ok well it's not good but it's not supposed to be good! Hollywood is incapable of making anything good!
kys my man
It's actually insane how they thought those raptor scenes in JP were just money-makers and dedicated a third of the movie to them, yet they did not give a flying frick about their CG. They even made animatronics of them and only used them for egg hatching and the popcorn scene.
What GODzilla? There is no God in 1998. It's a fricking oversized moose that wandered into Manhattan.
Better than Shin Godzilla, that's for sure.
I hate Matthew Broderick
this movie is irredeemable shit. it chases every trope of successful movies of the day, poorly. the cast is shit. it’s shot like shit. it drags on too long for how boring they manage to make a monster movie.
elvis presley movies. he was the king.
The design was kino but the monster itself fricking sucked
>Constantly runs away
>Doesn't breathe fire
>Gets killed by a few missiles
>Doesn't have a monster to sprawl with
The design was Hollywood's attempt at doing the whole "le realism" thing to Godzilla after the success of Jurassic Park. Legendary did the same in 2014, but that design has kind of evolved a bit to where it feels more like Godzilla.
It would be cool if Legendary gave Zilla a little bit of a redemption arc in the Monsterverse movies. Basically, make them giant raptors that live in the Hollow Earth, and hunt in packs.
Weebs hate it because godzilla doesn't look like an obese woman with gigantic thighs
>jap rubbersuit trash
If the original material is so trash maybe you shouldn't have called this movie GODZILLA and pretended it was its own thing
You can have a good movie based on a shitty source material if you change things up. This is what the 90s godzilla did.
>You can have a good movie based on a shitty source material
How about you just make a good """original""" movie without relying on the brand name? This was happening all over the place in the 90s with soft ripoffs and so-called homage works. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too
>OP is just straight up baiting now and seething Cinemaphileanons keep giving him (You)s
>baiting now
>now
Implying there was a point he wasn't baiting. The thread is bait.
Weebs who cry about zilla being cgi are praising the cgi of minus one right now btw. Only took japan 25 years to catch up.
First 30 minutes are legit good. Then we have Godzilla chasing a taxi cab, the same type of stupid climax that they tried to do in ID4 but changed because of test audience reactions, but didn't here because they didn't do a test screening. Also not my Godzilla
just popped in to say if anyone here has never been to nyc, just watch this movie. it's captured perfectly, the rain with overcast skies, the comfy, the subways, coffee, taxi's, people everywhere
Man the weeb gays are desperate
Worse than Toho Godzilla, but better than MonsterVerse.
kek this looks like ass even for the 90s. The limited CG in Jurassic Park from five years earlier looks much more believable.
I liked it a lot as a moronic little kid
What the frick were they thinking with this design?
Zilla always looked more like a man in a suit to me than any of the Japanese movies. Something about the arms and legs make it look like a guy crouching on the balls of his feet rather than a dinosaur.
It sucks shut up
Gets btfo by cloverfield. Nothing personnel
They had a trilogy lined up for this thing...but the movie turned out to be total garbage, they scrapped everything. Picrel was the only good thing to come out of it.