Big Comic Book Industry Moves Coming, Shoes Are About To Drop

>Bleeding Cool gets the word on a number of major comic book industry hiring moves coming that may change the face of the direct market for comic books as it currently stands. That's basically it, by the way. But there are all manner of dots and crosses to be added, entire departments to be informed and contracts to be signed before it's okay to spill the names, the faces, the dates, the publishers and the like. Normally this kind of thing seems to wait for the fortnight before San Diego Comic-Con but not this time. We should be looking in the next week or two, just after Wonder Con. But we are talking very familiar names who have been in their roles for some time making moves that should excite all sorts of people.

>Expect all manner of discussion when those job changes happen, debate about what it means, for comics, for comic creators, for comic book publishers and the state of pretty much everything.

>As far as I can tell, no one is being fired. Not yet. Nor from what I have been told anyway. I know this is very much Something Has Happened, News At Eleven. But for now there should be two sizeable shoes dropping very soonish. And then more to come.

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/big-comic-book-industry-moves-coming-shoes-are-about-to-drop/

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Alan Moore being the new DC Comics President is believable.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    More gays in charge, less comics anyone will pay for! Screencap this!

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy a preannouncement that's so interesting

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Todd McFarlane BUYS Marvel Comics, cancels all ongoing and future projects, turns it into a toy company

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Todd McFarlane don't have the cash for that

      hope it's not Mark Millar getting some high position in any company

      remember when he was FOX's cinematic universe architect guy for like a weekend before he got himself fired for talking shit? good times

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hope it's not Mark Millar getting some high position in any company

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are they gonna start writing comics more like the manga model? more wider releases?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What would the weekly sales be of a Shonen Jump esque volume where all the major Marvel issues from that week were in? 300k?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Becoming more like Jump won't save Marvel from the political biases infesting their comics.
        Comics shouldn't be blatantly political to begin with as they never actually were.

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        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even then I wouldn't trust it. All anyone at Marvel knows about being more like Jump is to make everyone have badly drawn spikey hair, and keep the storytelling exactly as it is right now.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hahaha
        It's be probably little over x1.5 of the most middling selling book there, because at that point most people would trade-wait or skip entirely to protest another book by a creator they dislike in the anthology.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >something big is happening
    >or not
    >whatever

    Rich Johnston, everybody, the man who lost his green card and ended up working for a far right guy who collects horse porn on his work computer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vaush? No, he is one of yours. Don't dump your trash on our side like you did with the ancaps.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Vaush

        whoever the frick that is, it's not Paul Staines

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >BleedingJew

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jeff b***hzos is basically the more evil, cringy version of Musk.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Jeff Bezos cringier than Elon
        Wow

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every deviantart user.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that boy is right doe

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >none of the homosexuals already destroying comics are being fired
    So.......nothing basically?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? Marvel was always bad and the MCU should have ended with endgame or at least no way home. As for DCEU, If they can't obey an instruction as simple as having Green Lantern or even Green Arrow be a member of the justice league, what good are they?
    >B-but the Green Lantern movie was b-
    Shut up, no it wasn't. You were just spoiled with the boring realistic nolanverse movies. Besides, if they didn't have Christian Bale be Batman, who says Ryan Reynolds has to be Green Lantern.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is talking about movies you insufferable homosexual Wrong board

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >homosexual
        Don't know why you're talking to yourself, but okay. Also, I misread moves as movies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fricking tourist go away

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Marvel was always bad
      frick you

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no justice in this world, so Bendis will continue to get work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bendis is one of like 5 people that can write something that sells

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Almost all of his DC work was DOA or crashed within 4 issues.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't his work on Action Comics, Young Justice, and LOS just completely ruin his career?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really know what this would be. I guess just doing more OGNs and shifting around some top management?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      man I fricking wish they would keep doing more OGNs

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    /co you promised me Disney would be owning DC by now, what the frick!

    You promised me that DC would be out of business five years ago, what's taking so fricking long!

    You GOD DAMN SWORE, you filthy liars!

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tom King doing something at Marvel. Gonna be fun coming to Cinemaphile and seeing people here pretend like he's a genius now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not with Brevoort around

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does Brevoort dislike Tom King?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          maybe nothing concrete

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the current rumours.

    DC Comics is set to be shut down by first quarter of 2025. Massive company wide layoffs are planned to take place as early as next month (May 2024).

    Image has bought publishing rights off Warner Discovery for undisclosed sum.

    Negotiations for this quote unquote sell off go back to before Warner Discovery merger (reportedly as far back as 2020).

    Image plans to publish a very much slim down version of DC Comics universe with their now only being 8-12 titles per month

    Each title will be a giant size issue of 101 pages, made up of one major story, three minor stories and reprints chosen by you the reader (i.e counting down top twelve issues featuring Joker/Harley Quinn/Poison Ivy etc).

    The 101 page or "1 on 1" Giant Page DC Comics at Image will all be part of a new company wide relaunch all of DC characters similar to Rebirth or New 52.

    A DC V Marvel crossover has already been planned and is being prepared to be DC at Image first event. Called Crisis On An Insane Earth it will be written by Mark Waid. No word yet on what it is about other than it being 40 year anniversary tribute to Crisis on Infinite Earths and 30 year anniversary of DC vs Marvel. The Amalgam universe is also said to return along with fan favourites such as Spider Boy, Super Solider, and Dark Claw.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Image characters such as Spawn and Shadowharwk will also be appearing in pages of this planned DC and Marvel type event.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      TODDBROS…. WE WON.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This would be really smart if they could get more heads reading them, but they might not even have the goodwill for that. Hopefully it also means they'll expand into doing new things in new formats with the guaranteed DC money.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mark Waid
      Dropped if true

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't hate this. But I get some DC comics through mail subscription because it's a lot cheaper, and Image doesn't offer that. That would be unfortunate for me.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so it's Heroes Reborn with DC?

      jesus frickin christ it'll be back in-house within a year

      >Image plans to publish a very much slim down version of DC Comics universe with their now only being 8-12 titles per month

      sensible if true but the time to do this was New 52, in 2011, instead of publishing 52 titles about Batman for meme energy

      >Each title will be a giant size issue of 101 pages,

      this would work well in general retail, if priced appropriately, but it sounds like these are launch issues and not the general format going forward

      >A DC V Marvel crossover

      they really must be desperate

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cutting down the number of issues published in general is a good idea for these shared universes. Comics can be so overwhelming, and people are used to watching every Marvel movie that comes out. A lot of people don't like the idea of missing bits of the story, and nobody's willing to spend enough money to read every Marvel book that comes out.

        They're doing the right thing with their Ultimate universe, which come June will have four monthly titles. If you want to read all of them, you easily can. They're doing the same thing with the Energon Universe, Kirkman said they'll never have more than four books going at a time. For the main DC Universe it makes sense to have more ongoing titles. But still at 8-12, you could still buy them all if you really wanted to. And with smaller number like that, that would actually encourage some people to collect them all, whereas now it's impossible so no one feels the need to try.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that'd be something like 15-20 an issue, probably. 160 is a lot, but it's within range of a normal addiction instead of the clown show of speculation that only dead people could participate in.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ultimate
          they brought back the ultimate universe?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes, but now the main plotter is hickman, is gonna implode badly just like krakoa x-men

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've been extremely impressed with it so far.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >A DC V Marvel crossover
        >they really must be desperate
        I'll be very disappointed if it's not titled 'Secret Crisis'

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really want this to be true, the twitter kvetching will be sublime, this WILL be seen an as abandonment of all the progress they’ve made left-ifying the milkshaking the industry

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Each title will be a giant size issue of 101 pages
      Even page numbers, huh? Revolutionary and stunning.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Image plans to publish a very much slim down version of DC Comics universe with their now only being 8-12 titles per month
      >Each title will be a giant size issue of 101 pages

      This makes some business sense but it makes me frown anyway because I don't think it increases the likelihood of me getting things I want.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cultural consultants and micromanagers go first in layoffs before talent in the arts. It's like how tech companies have been a bloodbath lately. Infinite Juneteenth money isn't real and their projections were way off.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think it increases the likelihood of me getting things I want.
        If they do it right and actually provide a greater value, you should still be paying the same amount for the stuff you want, plus getting other stories you didn't want/weren't interested in trying. That's how the anthology model should work. It should be cheaper for them too, because individual low-selling comics are money sinks that lower the total expense-per-page at a publisher.
        If these rumors are true, this is something they should have done a long time ago, if they had only cared to work out the math.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are these rumors actually posted somewhere other than this thread? First I'm hearing of it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's the first I've seen of it, so I'm not personally too optimistic. It would make too much sense. That said, such drastic course corrections are plausible if DC really is shut down, and everyone from top to bottom is fired.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think the industry definitely needs a change, and some people say go all digital but I don't think that would work for comics the way it works for other forms of media. That idea makes some sense to me and I think it would at least be worth a shot. I like comics and I like the DC universe and I'd really like for them to be successful. I'm the only person I know who reads comics.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I should also add, the only party who does not benefit from anthologies becoming the norm are direct market retailers, who thrive on the collectability of multiple covers. But the DM is currently so diminished that they may no longer hold any kind of sway over DC. DC has to place its own survival above everything else, and square bound magazines would open up bookstores to comics in a way floppies cannot.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is true. We all love comic shops, but if comics are going to survive, you have to be able to get them in more places.

                And if comics could get more popular, maybe the shops can benefit from that. But physical stores aren't as popular as they used to be, and that sucks for the store owners and the people who enjoy them, but if the market just isn't supporting that anymore then it's foolish to try and force it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Direct market retailers only thrive on variants so long as they have pigs and whales to keep buying them. They ignored the regulars who habitually bought smaller amount of comics for those groups to their own detriment.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's been times I've been in the shop and considered buying a new DC book, but all that's left is the card stock variant covers and I didn't want to pay an extra dollar for it. I hate variant covers and I told my guy not to put any in my pull list. I like my collection to look consistent throughout the run.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair to the comic shops, they think the way they do because they live in constant starvation mode. Animals in starvation eat everything in front of them. They don't save because there's no guarantee of anything tomorrow.
                Comic shops and publishers operate on different scales of time. Individuals only think for as long as that individual's career. They plan for decades. A corporate publisher needs to think in centuries. So despite the many times retailers have shot themselves in the foot, be it floppies, loyalty to one distributor, obstructing digital publishing, or all the crab-like behavior during covid, it's ultimately the fault of the publishers for acquiescing to them. They should have known better.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A corporate publisher needs to think in centuries.

                Publishers are still individuals with their own selfish objectives. Ike's strategy of stiffing the X-Men wasn't some far sighted strategy, but short sighted in that X-Men still hasn't recovered from what's been done to them in the 2010s when Marvel was pushing MCU/Avengers adjacent shit and stiffing FF&X-Men.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're thinking of the position of publisher. I'm talking about the company as a whole. The entity of Marvel will outlive Perlmutter or any of its publishers. Until the last one, I suppose.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Same but it's not a complete out-of-left-field thing, there were rumors a couple years ago (around the time 5G got cancelled I think?) that Todd was part of a consortium that was wanting to buy the publishing rights to DC, WB has been doing a lot of restructuring/cost cutting shit lately, the Marvel/DC crossovers getting reprinted after 30 years, and it's not the first time DC has tried to outsource its publishing, in the late 70s/early 80s they tried to outsource to Marvel but the head israelite there was like 'well if they don't sell as well as Marvel they must not be popular/worth the effort'

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I could see this being a thing HOWEVER Image isn’t really a single publisher it’s a publisher made up of a bunch of studios so I’d assume it’d be Todd’s studio who’d do the publishing?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yuck, woke versions of Spider Boy, Thorion, and Dark Claw.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Image plans to publish a very much slim down version of DC Comics universe with their now only being 8-12 titles per month

      How many of those will be Batman books? And which ones will be Bat-adjacent books like Penguin, Poison Ivy, that other one with Poison Ivy or whatever flavor of the month Gotham hero they are peddling this time around?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        so it's Heroes Reborn with DC?

        jesus frickin christ it'll be back in-house within a year

        >Image plans to publish a very much slim down version of DC Comics universe with their now only being 8-12 titles per month

        sensible if true but the time to do this was New 52, in 2011, instead of publishing 52 titles about Batman for meme energy

        >Each title will be a giant size issue of 101 pages,

        this would work well in general retail, if priced appropriately, but it sounds like these are launch issues and not the general format going forward

        >A DC V Marvel crossover

        they really must be desperate

        This would be really smart if they could get more heads reading them, but they might not even have the goodwill for that. Hopefully it also means they'll expand into doing new things in new formats with the guaranteed DC money.

        I don't hate this. But I get some DC comics through mail subscription because it's a lot cheaper, and Image doesn't offer that. That would be unfortunate for me.

        >Each title will be a giant size issue of 101 pages
        Even page numbers, huh? Revolutionary and stunning.

        I could see this being a thing HOWEVER Image isn’t really a single publisher it’s a publisher made up of a bunch of studios so I’d assume it’d be Todd’s studio who’d do the publishing?

        The number of people with nothing better to do to start their weekend than waste time at a Mongolian basket weaving picture puzzle site to Seriously and Intentionally comment on a shit post in a click bait OP thread.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's one guy. He's been doing this for like a year now. He writes these big elaborate fakeposts claiming they're DC/Marvel leaks about new directions and they never actually come true because they're clearly ridiculous.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            "This is Victor Von Doomwiener, the future ruler of Earth..."

            "...Bob Iger"

            "...Kathleen Kennedy"

            "...Lou Diamond Phillips"

            "... Stay Angry !!!"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Crisis On An Insane Earth
      Seriously?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is not believable at all for so many different reasons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Image bought...
      Image doesn't have any money, and lacks the classification to make such acquisitions. Fake and gay.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Removing IP counter has really damaged things because this post is mostly same gay responses. Cinemaphile is dumb but not that dumb.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do think there's smoke to the fire of DC getting outsourced to MacFarlane Studios

      But it seems like there are plans in place with the production of new Elseworlds, Black Label and YA graphic novels which are still selling well in non comic shop markets.

      Also the comics are starting to lean into James Gunn synergy

      The only question marks with DC getting "Heroes Reborned" is
      >what happens to Jim Lee? Do he and MacFarlane get along? I could see him getting moved into some kind of vanity title helping design the aesthetic of DC across video games and merch.

      >what happens to the trade department? Watchmen probably still brings in a lot of money along with other perennials.

      Idk I think DC/Big 2 have evolved past the need for floppies. I would prefer OGNs with a variety of Elseworlds flavor and manga/webtoon adaptations.

      I would prefer my floppies big 2 capeshit to be contained to the size of an imprint like Ultimate or 2010s Valiant, Energon U or Spawn U.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watchmen probably still brings in a lot of money along with other perennials
        You know what would be really funny? If Moore decides one day to cash all of those DC checks at once, DC's bank account becomes overdrawn, a check to a printer bounces, an entire month of books don't ship, and that's what causes DC to go bankrupt. Revenge is a dish best served cold, as they say.
        A man can dream.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If Moore was clever enough to do this I might start respectiNg him again.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        McFarlane is already absolutely ruining the action figure line as one of the worst retail lines out there so him taking over the comics too would be a horror show

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How so?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            overreliance on variants and artificial scarcity, hiding versions of characters people want behind limited distribution methods, overuse of bucks (including bucks that don't fit,) refusal to follow industry trends (sculpting things into gay little preposes or making figures out of scale with every other retail brand,) still doing NFTs aka "Digital Collectibles," the list goes on.

            Most DC figures clock shelves and get clearanced out soon because they're wave after wave of Black Adams and Zombie Batmen

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Todd basically sounds like he never left 1995 but in a bad way.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not that far off to assume if any company is going to have major trouble, it's DC. Since WB has remained in a state of bankruptcy for a few years now and eventually if they cannot turn things around the wolves are going to come out and start selling off assets.

        And a modern day major media company is not going to see the need to keep an antiquated thing such as printed paper comics alive, and they are not going to care how old and traditional it is. They just want the IPs to use any time later if it appears profitable.

        So it is semi believable when someone appears with news that DC is in trouble, or will roll back nearly all production, or fall under some other label for prints.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How much money do Marvel and DCs comics make a year anyway?

          The comics, not stand alone graphic novels

          I heard combined they make like 300M a year, that's without counting the costs to make the comments and that at least 1/3 of that money goes to Shops and shipping trucks

          Neither Warner nor Disney would have any trouble shutting them down if they actually wanted to, they probably just keep them around because it's nice to have an extra 100m just in case

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I heard
            You lost all credibility right there

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              He has more credibility than

              It's not that far off to assume if any company is going to have major trouble, it's DC. Since WB has remained in a state of bankruptcy for a few years now and eventually if they cannot turn things around the wolves are going to come out and start selling off assets.

              And a modern day major media company is not going to see the need to keep an antiquated thing such as printed paper comics alive, and they are not going to care how old and traditional it is. They just want the IPs to use any time later if it appears profitable.

              So it is semi believable when someone appears with news that DC is in trouble, or will roll back nearly all production, or fall under some other label for prints.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's also not too hard to assume you are a company wars homosexual making up bullshit about the company you don't like might go under any minute now...for the last 5 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And the announcement will be on Monday, right?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We have breaking news that news might happen soon
    I wish they'd stop writing news stories like teasers for movie trailers.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unless it's an announcement they're firing everyone and starting fresh, it's a nothing burger.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    More claimed big changes where nothing changes.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So that rumor that was posted on here about DC being in trouble/shutting down true?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I actually started reading a lot more DC books when Dawn of DC created a bunch of new jumping on points, which was the goal, but I don't think sales have improved much overall sadly. I'm liking DC a lot more than Marvel now, but I'm sure sales aren't what they wanted.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I did too, but then I eventually dropped it because I didn’t like the stories. I just kept losing interest.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really like Green Lantern a lot. I think Jeremy Adams has become one of the best DC has, and I think they were foolish to take him off Flash (he's said on X that it wasn't his call and he wanted to stay on the book). I think Action Comics and Superman have been good, although they can't seem to figure out what they want Action Comics to be. They also put out some really great miniseries', like Doom Patrol, Jay Garrick, and Wesley Dodds. They're doing some good stuff, but I guess they're not getting what they were hoping for.

          Also I know he's controversial here but I like Taylor's Nightwing and Titans. And I've been reading Tom King's Penguin and it's not everybody's cup of tea but it works for me.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit taste.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They don't really know what they want, but if they did they'd be unstoppable. At this point they need to expand massively in the big issue or even a manga magazine style model of cheap density over quality model, or get off the pot so somebody else can get their marketing space.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >At this point they need to expand massively in the big issue or even a manga magazine style model of cheap density over quality model
          I actually really liked in 2023 when Action Comics was an anthology. You had the ongoing A-story, the ongoing B-story, and a third story that was either a one-shot or a smaller two or three issue arc. I think it really did increase the value you got.

          Of course, the problem was that the third story was usually from someone who absolutely sucked. I'd like them to fix that if they try it again. But if the stories were all good to great, I think it's a good format.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'd go even further than that. No more variant covers (artificial racket), up to five stories an issue, plus extra content in single pages. Bring on two or three of the American webtooners and you'll slay the Koreans eating our lunch there, and you can get plenty of people to write interesting articles to make it as thick as possible. You want their eyes to be swimming.
            And the best part is that due to these mega mergers, they already have expertise they can go off of: Time magazine kicked ass until 2016, and if they move away from the false pivot to video they can have that again.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >manga magazine style
          To really compete with manga they need to do weekly issue releases.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Opposite. It made me read more Marvel and I usually hate Marvel. But Marvel had a decent back catalog and they are at least trying when right now DC is being run into the ground. Williamson's big start on Superman and GA is turning out to be a big nothing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think even those who don’t read rumors could tell DC was in trouble. Just look at the content they’re producing that has no audience and no chance of growing one.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There were shills on here claiming that DC was doing great.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was just one shill (this guy

          I actually started reading a lot more DC books when Dawn of DC created a bunch of new jumping on points, which was the goal, but I don't think sales have improved much overall sadly. I'm liking DC a lot more than Marvel now, but I'm sure sales aren't what they wanted.

          ) who spams Dawn of DC threads (and was spamming Knight Terrors shill threads with the same image and filename every single time).

          Most people have given up entirely on DC Comics. To the point that only Batman and Nightwing is keeping DC afloat while most of their comics don’t even make it to the top 100 anymore.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look

            >dc is dead for the 15th time
            LOL keks keep crying I guess

            Here’s another one.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no one is allowed to enjoy what I don't enjoy

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Give more tears please dc will die any day now
              Remember EVS threads you sissy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but if dc collapses that's w third of the direct market wiped out. It would just erode confidence amongst speculators and bigger publishers would take an hit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of people would assume the format itself is outdated and dying in general and would just assume not bother with all publishers if Superman and Batman still go under.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You want change? Get rid of all these untalented hacks and replace them with people who actually give a shit.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll wait for Rob Liefeld's take on whatever this is.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please create a character bibles this time. And stop with the deconstruction.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I seriously wish they could make comics feel like they batter again. I feel like things are improving a bit. Ultimate Spider-Man has a lot of excitement around it. A lot of people are really liking the Energon Universe. I just want comics to thrive. I'd love to not be the only person I know who reads comics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      USM has Hickman on it and he's Marvel's top writer.

      Likewise Energon has Kirkman overseeing with Williamson doing half of it and he was DC's go to writer during COVID.

      These companies have their top guns on these projects. It's not so easy as it seems.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >USM has Hickman on it and he's Marvel's top writer.
        Geez that's so sad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ultimate Spider-Man has a lot of excitement around it.
      All hype died in February, everyone loved (or at least pretended to love) #1, and then no one cared about #2 and 3.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure it's still the bestselling comic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >All hype died in February, everyone loved (or at least pretended to love) #1, and then no one cared about #2

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          why did Thundercats do so well?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Liefeld covers.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          These charts aren't accurate btw.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i just read 3 and i liked it

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So why is this happening? I thought they were content with failing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because God forbid the leftists admit thier wrong

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool
    does that site still exists?

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    A lot of people don't even live near a comic shop. How hard would it be for some kind of program to exist where they mail comics to your house and they're delivered on release day? Subscriptions are so in right now, and comic shops are growing fewer and fewer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They do that already; they're just bad about advertising it.
      >subscriptions.marvel.com
      >subscriptions.dccomics.com
      It's perfectly saveable, they just decided not to because 0 percent interest means they can kick the can forever.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am aware of those, and those are good to have, and the discount you can get is really nice, even though they don't necessarily offer every one-shot there. But, it becomes an issue if you want to discuss comics online, which I think a lot of fans do, because the comics you get from these sites don't show up on release day. You typically get them a week or two later, which for a lot of people might not be a big deal, but for some people it is. I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm sure faster shipping would mean not getting the nice savings, which is important because comics are so expensive now. It's tough.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Funding the post office would solve that problem, weirdly enough. What we think of as Amazon's logistical skill is really just them abusing the post office. Besides that, I feel like letting people know where in a state they can get comics would help, because that way if you're super far away from the stores you can work something out or they can as well.

          Why doesn't Image have something like this. I'd have bought so much more from them if I could just get them in the mail with a discount.

          Image probably thought subscriptions were a thing of the past a la Grit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I also wish subscription options were available for all the limited series so you could get every issue without worrying about them running out at the store. (mostly an aside but I enjoyed picrel today)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I think they should offer everything through the mail. My guy at the shop forgets stuff from my list all the time too. Marvel seems to be a little better about it, like you can get every Blood Hunt tie-in subseries on their site now. But even still there's been little one-shots that weren't on there. I don't know why some are and some aren't.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't Image have something like this. I'd have bought so much more from them if I could just get them in the mail with a discount.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what's an ongoing at either that's worth it?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Green Lantern, Batman/Superman, Ultimate Spider-Man, Moon Knight

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this new Ultimate DC going to kill the main universe and replace it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes anon just like All-Star, New 52, Earth One and all the other clean slates that DC had to walk back on. They are all here to stay and replace the old just like the advertising claims.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What killed All Star? Lee and Miller?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. It will fail like all the other attempts at a DC Ultimate universe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it is good then it can, but it won't be good. DC isn't able to create things like that and make them stable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shit has gone off the rails moronic. DC needs a hard reboot. The very concept of the characters have been destroyed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick no.
          DC cowers and reboots too many fricking times.
          Just keep going same continuity please.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just keep going same continuity please.
            No it’s complete ass and needs to be deleted.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a whole paragraph to say nothing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the same guy who was insinuating Ike was worse than Jimmy Savile, but Rich didn't want to narc him because of muh industry jobs.

      He has absolutely no credibility and is just a rumor monger.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's Stan Lee. Ike's just stingy and insane.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Stan Lee was retired by then. So no it wasn't.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Here comes the shills

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they just adopt the WSJ or MSM model?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      would not appeal to LCS who are the only places willing to stock any comics these days not in a trade or larger format, to sell in petrol stations or grocery stores or super markets the big two would also need to allow returnability which will just show how many of their comics they are not selling

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the problem is distribution, it's way too expensive for the big 2 to put them back in the mom and pop stores. previous guys like shooter have all said as much.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dc is dead for the 15th time
    LOL keks keep crying I guess

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All editors should be arrested

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder: the mortality rate is 100%

    Everything dies, you included.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bleeding cool
    Stopped reading there

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are they going to fire Jim Lee?
    Are they going to fire all of their editors who do jack shit and allow autistic morons to shit all over their characters?
    Are they going to get rid of the Tom Kings and Chip Zdarskys and tini howards and Leah Williams?

    if not then I don't care

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Keep Zdarsky. What the frick. His dd was baller af. Keep Leah for her fat breasts.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        zdarsky's batman is so terrible he should never be hired again.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >zdarsky's batman is so terrible he should never be hired again.
          His Spider-man is so good he should take over the book.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn’t Liefield talk about consolidating in 2024 and that was the reason so many comic writers are getting defensive?

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unless Jason Aaron gets publically executed, I sleep.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ed Piskor to work at DC

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    time for AI comics?

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've lived through so many of these and usually it is: absolute nothing burger or attempt number #236 at fixing things usually with a poorly planned out past strategy with a new name. I'm going for nothing burger this time.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait until this is nothing like always. They aren't going to change their format or restructure because that would basically nuke their jobs. They have to produce as many series and floppies they do to keep it all afloat.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gays reading modern stuff
    Made myself reading order for Batman that goes from year one to new 52. I hope it all comes tumbling down.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The sales are so fricking ASS, just kill this useless shit company and stop giving jobs to these people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this

      I have no goodwill left

      I want them jobless

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything that's not a deboot is pointless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >deboot
      this, bring back preflashpoint status quo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would anyone but Tim fans want that?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anyone who even heard of Identity Crisis, for one.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing will improve until capeshit stops being glorified status updates instead of actual stories with permanence and continuity.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these comics exist anyways?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why do comics exist? You're asking why comics exist?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly for IP curation. It's a niche industry that is never going to be wildly successful but the IPs are valuable still to these large companies.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They can’t just keep the IPs? Why do they need the comics specifically?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because then there is the risk of things becoming a dead IP like Lil Abner or a mostly dead IP like Popeye.

          Superman the comic is pretty much worthless, but the brand is insanely useful. They do not even need to use a picture of him. Just the S will do. Stick that on a shirt, hat or wallet and make money. They need to do the bare minimum to keep the brand still somewhat alive so they can continue makine merch for it in the future. It's why they still cycle Peanuts comics 30 years after Schultz died, they want that brand to continue existing in the general public so it can still be used or else it would be just as dead by now too.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Superman the comic is pretty much worthless, but the brand is insanely useful. They do not even need to use a picture of him. Just the S will do. Stick that on a shirt, hat or wallet and make money.
            Adults don't get wallets with a Superman logo, they get a sleek black leather wallet.

            The only target demographic is kids, and kids are obsessed with anime. Superman is to them what Pope eye is to us. They don't remember STAS, why would they care?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but the brand is insanely useful.
            No one buys Superman shirts or wallets. He is a dead brand.

            Rocket Raccoon is more popular than Superman.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I see people wear Superman shirts all the time and I travel alot, what are you talking about?

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If no one is being fired en masse then nothing significant will change, so thanks for the nothingburger report BleedingStool.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a good point to jump on current Detective Comics? Just tried the most recent one and have no idea what's going on.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you considered starting with the first issue Roger V wrote?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, ask a stupid question I guess. I'll look up when that was. Thanks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Roger V
        Who

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That indian guy. They tried shilling him for a while as some incredible new talent but he's really just a diversity hire. If his name was Roger he wouldn't have gotten that attention (which has since faded).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            His books are just okay and I see a lot of people on twitter going this is the best thing ever

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I liked Laila Starr, haven't read his other stuff.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If his name was Roger he wouldn't have gotten that attention
            Oh so it's a shitty nickname you came up with the dumbest possible explanation behind it

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bloody basterd sir!

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              good morning sir plese redeem the detective only $4.99 sir

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guessing that American comics are in their death throes.

    The public isn't made aware of it because the higher-ups don't want the investors to parachute out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The public isn't aware most comics even exist.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It will finally be announced.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They deserve this for destroying their characters

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      who's been destroyed irredeemably?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The x-men

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Alan Scott
        Most of the X-Men
        Kamala at this point
        Hawkman/Woman/Girl

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >JUST TWO MORE WEEKS
    >IGNORE WHAT I SAID TWO WEEKS EARLIER
    >THIS TIME COMICS ARE DEAD OR I WILL EAT MY SHOES! I PROMISE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Samegayging won’t help your flopping company

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        which one?

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