>Bob Chapek mandates movies to be under 2 hours
>shows bombing
>movies underperforming critically and financially
And they're announcing more yearly projects with no real indication that they will be hits
It's over, at least Star Wars realized that something was wrong and decided to stop
feige will just threaten to walk again
I bet Bob let’s him. When Feige leaves, as bad as it is now, we will get legit Star Wars episode 9 levels of bad movie. It will get even worse.
>worse
They have always been bad lol now everyone will just see for what it is. U just have mediocre standards
There's too many people at Marvel Studios now, everyone is a producer or executive producer, Feige is supposedly the one keeping it all together but if that's true he's really fricking it up now, I think he's there but not nearly as involved as he used to be. I'll still blame him for all the mistakes, though
The problem with Marvel is that they have so much shit planned out that when it goes down it will go down hard, Star Wars only had a few spin offs planned and once they knew it wasn't going to work they scrapped everything, Marvel has years of shit coming, if none of that works it will hurt them way worse than Star Wars
>Star Wars
Dunno how much money the Disney Wars stuff has made but artistically, EVERYTHING (except for Rogue One, which was ok) has been absolute shit.
The only saving grace for Rogue One looking back on it was the hot as frick main girl, and she never acted again after that.
>The problem with Marvel is that they have so much shit planned out
The problem with Marvel is injecting the female power fantasy into the male power fantasy when men are the core consumers and primary demographic for the superhero genre. This is a mistake they will never walk back for some homosexual. Some things just aren't for girls. Some things just aren't for boys.
>men are the core consumers and primary demographic for the superhero genre
You're confusing the comics and the movies
>Gen Zers
>9%
Yikes, this is going to get even more embarrassing in a few years. The average Marvel fan will be aging out of the coveted 18-34 key demo and barely anyone under 30 will care at all.
that's why they need to hurry and do Dr.Doom, Galactus, X-Men and Secret Wars while they still have an audience. After that it will be over
>Actually wanting any more of this shit
Lmaoing @ ur life
Lmaoing @ ur reading comprehension fricking moron
I nerver said I wanted any of this, I was just saying they should do that if they want some more success before dying
Why take it personal "Anonymous" interpret his reply as an insult at Marvel fans not you.
He doesn't know you irl, your dignity is intact... all that fricking matter here is ideas.
>reddit spacing
this means 9% of the 2200 people who just so happened to find this obscure poll on the internet were zoomers. not that 9% of everyone in the world who happens to be a marvel fan is a zoomer. the real number could, and very much is, much larger than 9
thats not what the data says homosexual
That explains why people my age couldn't care less about Marvel and Star Wars while older people are going crazy over it.
Your pic is something I never noticed, that old women are fans of this shit type of books (basically the erotica of the 2020's).
>marvel fans
this applies to ALL movies
zoomers are not interested in cinema. and honestly that's based.
1/3 of Marvel fans identity as politically independent? That’s kind of based. Or do you think they threw “indifferent” in with that catagory
>m*illenials are the real capeshit watchers
Lol
Zoomers can't stop winning
Zoomers watch tik tok.. it's even more embarrassing...
>Includes self identified avid fans and casual fans
So men and women are both marvel fans in the same way women are Gamers
True. Women have no agency and go along with whatevers popular. The perfect cattle.
>-50k
Lol marvel fans are literally a peasent class
That correlates with the distribution of income actually.
What you take from that is that literally everyone watches Marvel stuff.
>male heroes
Men get their “power fantasy” and as long as the movie is fun they have a good time.
Ladies get a new guy to crush on/ fantasize about and as long as it’s fun have a good time.
>female heroes
Men will immediately tune out if the girl isn’t attractive and/or the “it’s about time” “girl power” shit exists. Even if they avoid those landmines the projects are typically given to women writers/directors who will deliver a borderline unwatchable narrative.
Ladies will likely ignore it unless there’s hot guys playing supporting roles/love interest. They may tweet that it’s great and their supportive but truthfully they don’t care if it’s a woman. On top of that the feminists will reeee if she’s too attractive. So you either have to pander to women with an ugly lead or men with a hot lead but ultimately you lose the other half either way.
>The problem with Marvel is that they have so much shit planned out
The problem with Marvel is that they have so much shit planned out but seemingly without any communication between the writers and a huge unwillingness to involve characters in other characters' movies/shows even when there is no reason they wouldn't
The most blatant examples being Moon Knight literally changing the night sky for a major city in Egypt (or possibly even further) yet nobody shows up to investigate (I think SWORD/SHIELD or Dr Strange would be pretty concerned about that event) or that Hawkeye is in a war against major criminal enterprises and he never bothers to tell anyone or get any help other than New Black Widow showing up on her own accord (and then leaving without really doing anything)
>
The problem with Marvel is that they have so much shit planned out but seemingly without any communication between the writers and a huge unwillingness to involve characters in other characters' movies/shows even when there is no reason they wouldn't
That stopped after IW. The writers/directors, which was a team of 4 on IW did work with everyone about where characters would end pu, to keep things consistent. This stopped, everyone is doing their own thing with no communication. Wandavision was made with no input from Rami. In turn, Spider-man NWH gave no notes to Rami. GotG3 was supposed to come out after IW and before Thor4 so....the whole team up became a 1 note rush through it. They need something to work towards again with a team guiding them.
This explains why the only capeshit that I liked was IW and kind of stopped watching after that.
It was so good it felt like a finale for this journey which was mostly dogshit.
Loki tv series and Multiverse of Madness are written by the same guy. Yet they still have inconsistencies lol.
The biggest example of this is Eternals having shit like Celestials appearing in the fricking sky and coming out of the Earth and not a single movie/show has mentioned it, the only thing that's getting mentioned is Kumail Nanjiani's character, that's it
The MCU is clearly not what it used to be, back during the early phases a major event like that would actually matter, it would feel like a cinematic universe
When did he threaten to walk the first time?
IIRC Feige had enough of Avi Arad's shit and said him or me.
I thought it was Ike and not Avi, maybe it was both
my führer, I can walk!
Think the last few years have proven Feige is highly overrated & was just coasting on the success of the first few movies
Let him walk. He's destroyed the franchise, it's clear they need someone new in there with a fresh vision and different (ie. good) ideas for the movies moving forward. If it's even possible to recover from the damage Phase 4 has done.
Frick. Marvel movies are going to suck now. He ruined them.
Infinity War was the last good Marvel movie. Even No Way Home was pretty lazy and stupid, "how do we get all of spidermans villains from other series to fight him? A wizard did it!" Black person Panther sucked but everything after infinity war has been trash.
heehee money printer goes brrrr
They're making bundles of cash off of the Licensees. Funko, Hasbro, etc are paying Disney tons of cash to make trinkets with their shit on it. Yes, the movies and shows suck, but if you think they're just pissing money away by making them rather than stopping, you don't know your head from your ass.
This.
>mandates movies to be under 2 hours
Wait, what?
Marvel movies are a factory product.Hence the Phase crap.
Disney/MCU is still making money, right?
Though they already did movies and such for the most popular characters, so they either keep going with the lesser known superheroes or reboot the popular ones (which is what I think they'll eventually do).
not a single bit of it has bombed. Some of it does worse in relation to the rest of it, but in relation to everything outside of the MCU, it all wins. It's earning them billions and billions of dollars.
Thor's budget was 250m, they're constantly shitting out content and spending tons of money on it, they need these movies to constantly make billions to make a profit, they need the shows to drive Disney+ subscriptions and they're all doing shit in viewership numbers
Here's a funny fact, the only movie that got billions was the Spider-Man movie, which was actually Sony's movie, not Disney's
I wonder how Chapek felt about that
Disney/Marvel think they're the biggest franchise in the world that will tower over everything else in pop culture but that's not the case anymore
Shang Chink and the Eternals bombed. You have to be huffing Disney farts pretty hard to try and claim they were anything but bombs.
you dont know what a bomb is
You need to stop being a Disney taint sucking b***h.
Eternals bombed just last year
Gotta keep in mind they want these movies to be making billions. Not sure how the shows are doing but apparently ms marvel is really underperforming. They’ll probably cancel all of there shows currently in pre production
I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to push Iron Heart as a new posterchild of the MCU. I actually don't even know who's meant to be the "main" hero anymore tbh...
Oh actually I just looked it up and they already have an actress and writer ready to make her show lmfao. Can't wait for strong independent black woman written in an offensively stereotypical manner to make girl power quips before blasting a CGI alien.
None of the remaining actors or lady actors has the charisma to be the “main” character of the mcu
>just as we needed him most... he disappeared
Chadwick was supposed to be that, and I buy that he was charismatic enough to carry the franchise after RDJ's departure. Then he fricking up and died on us, and we get Bramblepatch Cumberbund with his weird American accent as the linchpin Avengers character.
>Chadwick was supposed to be that
he fricking sucked
Bannerdick Cumbum is ok but no RBJ
It's kinda hilarious a gay Black person dying from ass cancer looks to be the tipping point of the MCUs downfall. I'd give anything to find out what all those execs said when the found out he had cancer & was hiding it from them probably more hate speech uttered that night than during a lynching in the south
She's going to get a big debut in Black Panther 2 before the Disney + cameos and show.
And Alden ehrenreich will be in her show they'll probably frick
Who is this for? Marvel was built on the backs of nerdy men. Now it's just filled with women from different ethnic backgrounds. What the hell happened? Where are the men who have superpowers fighting bad guys?
Doctor Strange is the new Tony Stark. He is also the coolest hero they have left outside Spiderman and Thor and Thor is questionable since I hear they made him a moron in L&T.
Don't forget Hul...no, I can't do it, even as a shitpost. Nobody wants to see more of Ruffalo.
>It’s like, uhhhh… I was made for this
23 fricking movies and this delivery took me out of the whole franchise.
“It’s Been A Long, Long Time” ending was kino tho
>I actually don't even know who's meant to be the "main" hero anymore tbh...
The new big three (the og being Iron Man, Thor, Captain America) was 100% supposed to be Doctor Strange, Black Panther, and Spiderman. But those plans are dead in the water, considering: Black Panther's actor is dead, and Spiderman's actor is cucked by Sony's restrictive contracts that limit the amount of movies he can show up in...so that leaves just Strange, who's charismatic, but not charismatic to carry an entire film franchise by himself
The closest to a lead right now is Strange which is kind of sad. Spidey-Zoomer lacks the presence or charisma to be the leading guy, they've completely bungled Thor despite being lucky enough to have Hemmsworth sticking around, and audiences rightfully rejected Captain Marvel.
The biggest issue with Phase 4 is no direction and no clear "core" group. The Wanda Vision > NWH > Multiverse arc feels like it should have been an entire phase with Loki supporting it, but it doesn't come across that way.
Oh no. Shows bombing as well as the movies? How could this have happened? Did we not shoehorn in enough female heroes to usurp the male heroes' popularity? Did we need even more diversity? We've got Madam Web coming up and the Marvels! Surely you guys want to see Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel team up? We have She-Hulk show coming up! Black Panther 2 perhaps? How about we just blackwash all the white superheroes from now on?
We have the Fantastic Four for example. You already saw a white Reed Richards, how about making him black in the main universe hm? Along with his wife. Frick it. They can all be black. More diversity, more wokeness, more feminism! How can you not want to see any of this?!
>It's over, at least Star Wars realized that something was wrong and decided to stop
Only once it was too late. Star Wars is on life support, if it wasn't owned by a corporate behemoth it'll be sold off or shelved at this point.
They need to get Perlmutter back on board. As racist as he was, his penny pinching is what allowed Marvel to make good capeshit. And the racism was good too
Good call anon. You can pinpoint two times Marvel went to shit: After the Disney buyout (bye bye Demon in a Bottle, Iron Man!) and the ousting of Perlmutter.
No his penny punching sucked and created a bunch of cheaply made garbage tv shows on a bunch of different networks that wasted good characters
He didn't put the woketards in charge that virtue signaled why they should write, direct, produce, etc. Loki is such a strong character any competent creative team could have made pure kino with 1/3 of the budget that show had.
his honest racism was his only good trait
They need to announce a team-up, and soon. The only two movies that have actually felt part of the same franchise are spiderman and strange. And the shows need some quality control, Hawkeye is the only one I can say I really liked with no asterisks.
There will be lot of team up soon we will be sick of team up. The young avengers, the next/new avengers, thunderbolt, midnight sons, fantastic 4, x-men. Then even more team up in secret wars
You fell for the bait and switch? Or the show with 5% Hawkeyes and 95% stronk womanz?
Get help.
The strength of Marvel movies, their calculated repetitive formulaic production, is also their weakness. On the one hand it ensures a consistent product, like coca cola. You know what you are going to get to a 99% certainty before you walk into the theater. There is a problem, some intimidating bad guy character trying to do something terrible, the protagonist (with special powers) confronts the bad guy, if they win there is an end-credits scene that shows that, despite the victory, something has gone awry and you need to stay tuned for the next film. If the main protagonists take a loss (which is very rare) find out what happens in part 2, rinse & repeat. All throughout there are quips, scenes that show women can be powerful too and that the tables have turned and now men are weaker, other SJW stuff sprinkled throughout. Throw in a lot of extremely bright lights and day time shots in broad daylight with forced intensity and a massive amount of CGI so that it's basically a modern day "who framed roger rabbit", rinse and repeat, over and over again...This formula supplies a consistent product but entertainment and art can't remain constant, it gets boring. Monster movies in the mid 20th century became boring after a while as did westerns, slasher flicks and action movies in the 80's also collapsed. They didn't just end immediately they lingered on running on fumes for decades but the craze ended. So the same will happen here I would say by 2030 the craze will be reduced considerably (along with "memes" and "social media") and we will just view it as a a defining characteristic of the 2010's, like other film crazes defined those other decades.
>Bob Chapek
it was Feige
What insanity. They literally knew this was coming. I certainly hope nobody at Marvel is pretending to be surprised by these results.
it means "a liberal who doesn't vote"
the under 2 hours thing makes no sense. i've seen more people disappointed that Love and Thunder is shorter.
top 3 highest grossing movies are over 2.5 hours long.
If Chapek mandated them to be under 2 hours he is a moron. No wonder MoM and L&T feel so empty.
when a movie is "long and epic" people feel like theyre getting more for their money. i remember people getting hyped when they saw endgame was 3 hours.
Less runtimes = more showings = more money
Chapek is just a company man all he cares about is box office and stock price
but the longer mcu movies made more money
But the lower number of showing per day makes them more vulnerable to bad word of mouth. They are thus more of a risk despite often resulting in a more complete, deeper story.
A movie that is between 90 minutes and 120 minutes usually has a pretty basic, bare bones story.
Imagine a Marvel movie like civil war or Infinity War, with lots of characters to juggle, but it has to be under 2 hours.
Sounds like this gay needs to watch The Offer and reflect on Barry Lapenis’ arch and see why he’s a moron that doesn’t know shit
Is that show actually good
I liked it a lot personally. Idk how much truth there is to the portrayals, but it was an interesting story, and I like a lot of the actors in it. Especially liked Matthew Goode as Bob Evans.
Less movie footage = less CGI = less editing and sound production and filming time.
MCU scripts and budgets have ballooned out of control. Everything is CGI, green screen sets, and a LOT of bloat in the script. If these directors and writers can't tell a clean, tight, focused story in less than 2 hours, they shouldn't be in movies.
It's one of the smartest things Chaek has done, imho. If a special event movie happens, like End Game, okay, you get an extra half hour. But for everything else, they don't need that extra half hour.
You're forgetting re-using actors, which is very expensive. Even for a day or two of shooting an actor could cost the studio 1-5m, just for an after credits scene or something, they are part of contract negotiations and appearance fees. Just to have patrick stewart for one day it likely cost the studio 7 million dollars.
Thor Love and Thunder had 3 high profile actors film and be cut from the movie. Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady and Jeff Goldblum all were on set. That easily is 10 million dollars wasted. You say Chapek is on top of it, he most certainly is not. You think the budget is going to CGI, have you seen Thor Love and Thunder? It most certainly did not. Natalie Portman and Hemsworth were probably 30m, who knows how much Watiti cost, or Bale, or Crowe.
They did it to themselves. They want the all star casting. Externals were pretty much a frick you I get who I want casting, it doesnt matter
its part of making sure the movies are taken seriously in the "hollywood" environment" people like Ike and chapek would just as soon cast cheap unknowns as the literal who super heroes
Imagine if they paid their writers like they're paying aging 80's and 90's actresses to be in their movies (Jolie, Hayek, Benning, Pheffier, etc)
The writers get paid 500k-4m
these scripts are written by AI with a israelite attached to recieve said compensation
List all the movies that are over 2 hours long that aren’t trash or don’t feel like a bloated fricking nightmare slog. If you can’t fit Capeshit Adventure #25 into a 2 hour time limit you suck as a storyteller. The age of binge streaming has gotten extreme. You don’t need more than that for almost any movie. You don’t need more than that for most stories in general.
Winter Soldier
Infinity War
Endgame
Iron Man
Black Panther
No Way Home
....wait a minute! See a similarly? Those are marvel's most popular, beloved, and critically acclaimed movies. And, wow! Would you look at that, they're all longer than 2 hours!
>No wonder MoM and L&T feel so empty.
When you cram in so much unnecessary crap, of course they are going to feel empty. The runtime literally has nothing to do with it. How important is the LGBT stuff to any story if it can be so easily removed for the foreign markets?
Gore was cut out so much because of the running time, because Thor and Jane arcs could not be cut.
Whoa we got a super editor here! Shame there was nothing else that could be cut, hmm....?
I would cut the screaming goats and the entire thing with Zeus. It was completely superfluous.
This pisses me off. We could have had a real story arc but instead we got jokes and female bullshit.
No, Chapek realized how much money they could save cutting a half hour of useless exposition and CGI. Disney is in belt-tightening mode, in the movie/tv divisions. They're underperforming or losing money. Lucas is the real problem, no tentpole movies to float the tv shows, and no merch. You have to realize how moronic that is. No Star Wars merch. They bought the damn studio because of the fortune the merch makes.
Lucas, Pixar, and now MCU are underperforming. You don't get it - the investors want that dividend and the stock price up. They're not gonna get there with a downward trending line for media profits.
In the future, this era will be when the Disney empire started to fall. Could someone come in, do what needs to be done and fire all the woke and the Kennedys and Feiges...or it rots on the vine, and the movie/tv divisions go under, and Pixar, MCU and Lucas are sold off for pennies on the dollar. Which could happen.
I’d love to see Paramount buy back Marvel
>at least Star Wars realized that something was wrong and decided to stop
The frick you talking about willis?
They spent billions on those shit sequels Kennedy is still in charge, they keep pooping out shit tv shows every month, they're even making one about juan Gonzalez from rogue one.
Seems like they are making the same mistake as the new star wars movies, thinking that people will keep watching just for the brand without something to look forward and even worse in this case, replacing all their popular actors/characters with lame sjw alts. They are so out of touch they must be thinking that replacing peter parker for miles will guarantee the same box office.
Why do people believe shorter running times equals to lower quality?
This is OP's idea of a film "bombing"...
>250m budget
>JUST got to 400m
Yeah, they need like 800m to break even, lmfao it's fricking over, moron
it's only been out a week topkek fricking moron. you act like its theater run is pushing its limits
>awful Word of mouth
>terrible reviews from both audiences and critics
>opened lower than JW3
>already showing terrible legs at the box office
Fricking moron, do you not know how this works? It'll be a miracle if this shit passes Ragnarok, meanwhile the only real blockbuster hit is still Top Gun 2
That must be embarrassing, knowing that a legacy sequel to a forgotten 80s movie is making a billion and the biggest brand ever just can't do it
>if it doesn't make a billion then its not a hit
moron
>>if it doesn't make a billion then its not a hit
They need a billion to make a profit, so yeah, it should be easy for them, isn't Marvel the biggest franchise ever?
they need anything over double the budget to profit off the movie. Once it hits 500m anything else is profit. However, they also have a plethora of cross promotional and marketing tie-ins which see them mountains of money. Disney sells more than just movies, they are full on consumer pushers.
It’s already outperforming ragnarok, but we’ll see after this weekend if low scores and bad wom crater its performance
still thinks theaters play movies for free
Didn't make a billion the first week
Marlel is kill
against a 250m budget before advertising
Honestly if they gave more time to LAT, I feel like there's a good movie with more Bale in there. Feige will probably try to get it fixed after MOM and LAT though, so maybe movies a year or more off can be sorted out that are in still in post production.
Everyone here pretends to be a box office expert but cares about manbaby drama
<120 minute run time is a good idea. Literally almost all good movies are 90-120 minutes long.
Take your zoomer attention span back to tiktok homosexual
>Literally almost all good movies are 90-120 minutes long.
No
I miss pic related so much bros. Will we ever go back? Frick Disney and MCU. Remember that Disney slowly fricked up Power Rangers after buying them. Then they fricked up Marvel right from the get go after purchasing them. And frick the music industry too. Remember when music was cool because of Heavy Metal, mainly Rap Metal bands like these:
Reveille - Permanent (Take a Look Around):
Reveille - Laced (Full Album Playlist):
One Minute Silence - Available in all Colors (Full Album):
Senser - infoburner:
Osiva - Malfactor:
Primer 55 - Loose:
Greedy Edna - Get it Good:
Pic related shared universe from Sony Screen Gems or Time Warner New Line Cinema was the dream. Think we’ll ever go back to the prior zeitgeist of the 90’s and 2000’s?
You have the wrong Hellboy in that pic
frick capeshit and frick capeshitters, including children. I wanna kick them in their gay little homosexual faces
this
based agreement bro. capeshitters are the house of flowers level gay. they are, by definition, homosexuals. they dont deserve to live. especially women. rape is an act of purification, death? liberation
>movies underperforming critically and financially
Which ones? Dr.Strange 2 made more than batman or spider-man. Thor 4 is still has this weekend to do more.
The TV shows are kinda eh... wish they'd dial back. Im looking forward to antman and wasp 2.
>Bob Chapek mandates movies to be under 2 hours
good, action movies need to be tight, unless it's something truly epic it doesn't need to be 3 hours long
>shows bombing
does it matter when people already paid their subscription? people can watch the minor characters' shows later when their next crossovers happen, anyway
>movies underperforming critically and financially
moron alert
>It's over
He says for the 30th time
Feige's Marvel is the only thing making money at Disney. He owns that whole shit.
remakes still make them a shit ton of money and the parks are up and down. Expect live action hercules, little mermaid, and so on to do well.
Nobody gives a shit about Eternals and Shang Chi and rest of the shit. Bring on Galactus, Fantastic 4, Deadpool, Dr Doom.
How is Black Panther 2 going to be two hours? They basically have to do an origin story again.
>Riri's first suit is made out of cars
LOL. I don't even want you to try and explain it. It's just literally one of those African tard kids "inventing" an airplane out of cardboard boxes.
Do you remember how and where Tony Stark built his first suit?
IN A CAVE!
WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
They can’t seriously be having Letitia Wright as the lead surely
I'm here for it
They only had a few options, and I guess that seemed like the best one. The trailer should be out next week for SDCC. With everything working against it it could be even worse than Love & Thunder. Dead lead, new lead almost shut down the movie because of her weird crank beliefs, VFX will surely be time crunched even worse than usual, it all spells disaster.
Mbaku and Shuri should have been flipped. The former the warrior while the sister has to take the throne of her brother and wade through all the bullshit with none of the gravitas.
>new lead almost shut down the movie because of her weird crank beliefs
Not wanting to take a supposedly voluntary jab makes you crazy?
gay.
Great argument bro
gay.
capeshitters are gayer than gays
you mean the woman that mogged Chadwick for an entire film while he was the lead
>X-Men 1 and 2
>First Class
>The Wolverine
>DOFP
>Deadpool 1 and 2
>Logan
>Disney forced Fox to ruin The New Mutants, then copy the Scarlet Witch formula to MoM but censoring the gore and made her cringe af
APOLOGIZE MOTHERFRICKERS, YOU WANTED THIS BECAUSE LE EPIC CROSSOVER. APOLOGIZE NOW
When these movies came out the MCU was seen as the ultimate superhero franchise for good reasons, they had their shit together while FoX-men and DC didn't
But now the MCU turned exactly into what FoX-Men and DC were, insane that something like this happened but we're seeing it
Not my problem. Let disney sink for all I care.
Kek based Bobby I hope he destroys this franchise.
Chapek is a greedy moron who doesn't realize you have to maintain quality to keep the fans
>It's over, at least Star Wars realized that something was wrong and decided to stop
They just shifted to Disney+
In hindsight, DC's worst mistake was letting Christopher Nolan make a Batman movie.
His movies were amazing, no doubt, but movie studios don't make all of their profits from just one movie (or 3), ideally they want a franchise. But Nolan was never willing to do that. And it's because of this they had to reboot the franchise with Zack Snyder, and it was a shit show.
Nolan brought them temporary big bucks but at the sacrifice of the long term big bucks.
They are making the same mistake again with Reeves