It is now the fourth most successful FOX animated series, only behind American Dad, Family Guy and The Simpsons.
Bob's Burgers has now more episodes than King of the Hill
It is now the fourth most successful FOX animated series, only behind American Dad, Family Guy and The Simpsons.
Is it good for shows to last this long?
not really, King of the Hill kinda became a husk of itself by the end. the same cannot be said of Bob's Burgers because it's always been soulless shit
only if they change up the formula, like having Gene get struck and instantly killed by a moving truck
I don't see how it's a negative
>show is good throughout its long run, you get more of the good stuff
>show is bad after a certain point, you can ignore it and pretend it ended at the last good point
>people get to keep their jobs for longer either way
>shows get to act as zeitgeist tree rings either way
>shows establish themselves as mainstream flagship IPs bringing more attention to the good stuff instead of being forgotten forever like countless other great shows
>always have something familiar to fall back on either way
I don't know what you'd get from canceling e.g. Simpsons after S9 versus just pretending S10+ don't exist
I always had this exact mindset. Why are grown ass adults mad SpongeBob isn’t cancelled? Why care if it’s “not good” anymore when the pre movie seasons still exist and didn’t suddenly evaporate.
Different anon here, it's not only about the quality of the show, but also about Nick spamming the show on the network to the point it was practically the only show on, and Nick not giving other shows a fair chance.
>Why are grown ass adults mad SpongeBob isn’t cancelled?
Well I just hate the parent company honestly, they don't deserve to have such an IP to exploit.
They act like they're forced to watched children's shows
>probably about how SpongeBob is being milked like a cash cow, and how other shows that aren’t immediately as successful as SpongeBob get canned too soon, might I add the hours of Nick having the Sponge under the sea be 25/7, the time and resources being focused on SpongeBob and other belated side shows as well
(me)
Oops didn’t mean to do all of that under a green text jej
Because an entire generation of zoomers have grown up watching nothing but late seasons of Simpsons, Family Guy, King of the Hill, Spongebob, etc without even having watched the early seasons. They've literally never experienced anything good and have no frame of reference.
it's consuming resources that any potential new show could use, it just dulls out the network
Most animation networks would shutter without their normalgay cashcows, if anything these flagships are carrying and enabling other shows to exist at all. Would you want those other potential new shows preemptively cancelled after 2-3 seasons to prevent season rot too? That's a crazy unstable way to run a business, especially animation which is hardly profitable as-is.
i think after season fricking ten you can safely say the low-level concept of "animated family does wacky antics" has more than run its course
This is my only issue with flagship series never ending. The new shit always gets sidelined and we're left with more of the same "animation titans." At least leave some elbow room for the new guys. Once we get to a point where new shows aren't shoved away so easily, I'll then be perfectly fine with Simpsons lasting however long it wants.
Stagnation is not a good thing.
Nobody is more surprised this show lasted this long then the people behind it.
>oh no we ran out of ideas
>time to make everything a forced tearjerker episode instead
Bob’s Burgers is really ugly which is what made me avoid it. FOX loves pushes it’s shows into the ground
same here i hate the art style and it is just kind of gross.
KOTH is certainly still the best adult family cartoon
the mouths especially disgust me
Everyone looking like a dumpy thumb with a face drawn on it is something that gets tiresome to look at the more you see that blandness spread over as many characters as possible. The fact that every single fricking person has that same vacant, disinterested stare as the default look, combined with that mumbly, awkward style of humor is just fricking revolting.
I’m sorry you feel that way
Robert’s got a mighty fine moustache
it doesn't have more GOOD episodes though. sadly it has joined family guy and simpsons in the 'cannot watch, they're recasting based on race' category.
Who did Bob's Burgers recast based on race?
Marshmallow, the brown drag queen. not even a character that matters and someone still felt it was necessary to get a token in to do a black voice
Many minor characters, starting with one of Louise's friends
also, firing jimmy pesto's actor because you don't like his politics is douchey, but recasting him was douchier. They should have just kept him out. that was the final straw, when I heard about that I was like nope, too many problems now.
He got fricking arrested. Were they suppose to wait for him to get out of jail to have the character back in the show again?
Let's see them recast based on gender too lol
Heh, well alright!
I like when these kind of shows inspire high quality autism.
>Bob's Burgers has now more
>has now more
Fricking hell, the ESL's have arrived.
I think I stopped watching around the third season.
Did BB maintain it's quality or did it decline?
it stagnated pretty quickly, i'd say even the good content wasn't that funny, but now it's really just background noises. Loren is obsessed with farts and diarrhea
The thing with BB is that you can't really say it got worse because it's been the same level of mediocrity it's always been.
Wasn't the episode with Bob and... rabbit-ear daughter at the museum pretty good and wholesome?
It's the only one I vaguely remember and it's the reason I tend to go "yea, Bob's Burgers was pretty good I guess"
>season three episode
yeah that one was good. the show definitely has its moments, but it's very hard to routinely try to be sentimental without it feeling manufactured. i stopped watching around season nine or so, but in retrospect i can't really say it was ever great. at least a grade above mediocre
Usually, they get about one good episode a season, either something properly heartfelt, or just actually genuinely funny. Rest of the time it's mediocre. Still not the worst Animation Domination thing to come out though, I'm actually more upset that Duncanville got canned for Housebroken(I like Lisa Kudrow, and great seeing Maria Bamford work again, but the show is awful) and Krapopolis (Dan Harmon needs better writers to help, and this show proves it. He has Berry and Adoyade, and neither are helping it.)
I'm tired of getting old
That's truly great for Bob's Burgers and what I'm about to say shouldn't detract from that accomplishment, King of the Hill is a cultural document that people can use to learn about Texas and it's people.
>American Dad
isn't Fox anymore
What is it then?
TBS/Adult Swim are paying for the new seasons.
It’s still produced by 20th Century, no?
Maybe they should stop.
I noticed that Bob's Burgers never caught on outside USA, which is odd since Futurama and the Simpsons were popular overseas until Disney removed most cable channels and just dumped all Fox shows as Disney Plus exclusives, I guess Bob's Burgers is just too tame for people into "adult" cartoons, it even got tamer as it went on
Bob's Burgers is highly pun-based and written almost exclusively for U.S. audiences. I'm still surprised the movie was released in non-English-speaking countries. I have to assume it didn't do too well in those parts.
It didn't too well in any parts
darn
Doesn't really change much for me. I always liked KotH for not over staying its welcome too long
And it's STILL good!
It's… okay. They haven't alienated longtime fans and started writing the show and characters in completely unrecognizable ways, but they've softened up on the adult humor so much that the show barely even feels fit for the Animation Domination lineup. I don't think we've had a TV-14 episode in YEARS.
That's Disney for Ya. All the Fox IPs have felt neutered since the buyout
I'm pretty sure it's been a problem even before the Disney buyout. The creator heard that adult viewers were watching with their kids and convinced himself that the show should be more "family-friendly." The writing staff hasn't really changed after all these years, so I imagine everyone else agreed since they're in the same age range and had also grown soft once they started raising their own children.
What was once an edgy but still calm & collected cartoon is now a middling family sitcom with increasingly cringey jokes and very little conflict per episode.
Sauce?
Bobs burgr
bob's burgers? more like slob's turd-gers
Two of the most shallow and pedantic cartoons of all time.
Freakin’ Sweet Anon!
Why did Great North take off while Bless the Harts and Duncanville failed?
It looks like Bob's Burgers. That's literally the only reason FOX has been keeping it running despite literally NO ONE watching the show.
I don’t think it has even a fraction of the cultural relevancy though. It’s probably just cheap and does “just good enough” by broadcast tv standards.
True, neither show ever reached Simpsons level but things like Pocket Sand, Hank's Ass and that's my purse are all still pretty referenced in social circles. I have never seen anyone quote a gag or say "man this is just like that one Bob's Burger's episode" I don't even hate the show but its always just there
Seriously. No one is DYING to buy socks or shirts with the Belchers on them. I'm a huge Bob's Burgers fan, but the show's pop culture relevance only ever went as far as a couple Tina and Linda lines being quoted on Tumblr back in the early 2010s and shared as GIFs. That's literally it. It quite literally is just coasting by thanks to its dedicated niche fandom of hypersensitive viewers who somehow still find the sanitized new episodes funny and who "feel seen" whenever a beloved character reveals their latest insecurity.
King of the Hill by comparison has far more of a lasting impact. Hank, Bobby, and Peggy each has their fair share of iconic moments, and supporting characters like Dale and Boomhauer are instantly recognizable. I don't see Bob's making it to 25 years and still being on the air, and that's a GOOD thing. This show should've ended years ago and the writers should've all pivoted to writing for children's television.
Why not cancel it then?
Because paying for a new show would be more expensive for the network.
Might I add that it already has a niche dedicated fanbase, that’ll watch whatever is put in front of them, most of the new literally who shows that they’re putting out aren’t nearby as successful as what’s already here, Bob’s Burgers
>the show's pop culture relevance only ever went as far as a couple Tina and Linda lines being quoted on Tumblr back in the early 2010s and shared as GIFs.
Yeah and it's important to note that those things people liked about the show i.e. the comedians voicing the characters having enough creative freedom to improv lines was abandoned by season 6.
>feel seen" whenever a beloved character reveals their latest insecurity.
They completely butchered Louise as a character.
How?
Two 2 show have something in common.
Two?
Length and David Herman carrying the whole show on his shoulders.
>It is now the fourth most successful FOX animated series
because it's long? longevity doesn't mean it's good. brevity is the soul of wit and things which are short are often better
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