I always found it odd people called this interview a smoking gun meltdown. Even in hindsight it isn’t particularly out of line for someone finding out their neighbor was murdered.
I've delivered such news to parents whose kid just died and even they took it more gracefully than stayvun did. It's not normal for some guy who lived down the hall to start hyperventilating and shit
>did he think nobody was going to find it?
NOBODY was going to find it, he was smart enough to drop the body right before the garbage truck would arrive but miracuously it arrived late, that's why he was caught
It actually worked for the most part. They only found the torso. Plus he had an alibi for why his hair was in her apartment. He should've kept his mouth shut. Imagine talking to the police, now imagine being a law student and talking to the police.
They also found the saw he used for cutting up the body and all the fricked up shit in his appartment. Body or not the moment they got a search warrant it was over for him.
He actually won the interview though. That’s why this case is so spectacular. He completely btfo’d the interrogating officers and would’ve walked if not for the physical evidence.
he was already breaking in to sniff her panties or whatever for weeks, he probably saw evidence she got a boyfriend or was about to get serious with a guy and snapped
no if im not getting this cased mixed up with another one i think she was going move out and had it marked on her calendar so he took as his last chance to have his way with her and killed her a couple days before her move out date.
No, there was that one with that old woman who literally shat herself during interrogation. The pigs hadn't finished the job and they found a bodypart a bit farther on her premises.
She was legit moronic though and got away with it plenty of times prior. Obviously it worked until her brain shit itself and she dropped the ball. For a one off, if you really had to do it, you could probably just throw the body into a pen of hogs and then sit there until it was gone. Would be gruesome though and yeah I'm sure there's a lot of room for error but it's pretty much one of the only ways. Either that or a gator or maybe there's a snake somewhere in the Everglades that's big enough to and willing to swallow a body.
Read an interview with a forensic once and he said the best way is to just leave it out in the open air. But you need a big place for that, because the smell carries far. I suppose the kind of climate plays a factor in the rate of decomposing as well. But if you have a big property, with some forrest, you just leave it out in the open. Then just remember to discard of the bones, which is probably pretty easy. And a lot less messy.
So just have some acreage in West Virginia for "hunting"
10 months ago
Anonymous
Cleaned up my mother's garden last year. There was a fresh, dead bird in the corner. Near an ant hill. It was lying on concrete. The bird itself was gone pretty fast. Feathers and skeleton took longer. Forgot to pay attention to the beak. Just went to check and there's nothing left. I thought maybe there would still be an imprint, but no. A year is a long time. Probably rain and wind took care of the rest.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder if a skeleton just gets eaten by bugs or bacteria too? All found skeletons are always the burried ones. Never in open air. The logical explanation is the ones in open air just get cleaned up right away. Picrel was always big in pop culture.
10 months ago
Anonymous
What skeletons are you talking about?
But probably it's just wind and animals picking them apart.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Anon... do you not know where bugs and bacteria live?
10 months ago
Anonymous
What do you mean? Both underground and above ground. It was just surprising to me, to read a corpse or cadavre gets picked apart faster above ground than under ground. Must be an oxygen thing. I always thought worms would eat me in three days, if I was burried. Going on a tangent: I read what happens to people who are burried in a casket too. Fricking nasty. Being burried without having your intestines removed is just brutal. It's a buildup of gas, your nails and hair still grow, the bugs are boring through your coffin, can't wait to feast on your corpse.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Can't you ask for a casket that will keep them out till your a skeleton?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think the varnish does that. I wonder if removing intestines is standard practice? Otherwise your body just explodes in the casket because of gas builduip and it turns into a sea of mukus and disgusting goo.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Can't you ask for a casket that will keep them out till your a skeleton?
I saw a grave cleaning. The casket was intact and on a sealed concrete box, not under the earth. There was nothing but bones and there were empty cocoons everywhere. Bugs made it into the game during the funeral and cycled in there until there was nothing left to eat
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think the varnish does that. I wonder if removing intestines is standard practice? Otherwise your body just explodes in the casket because of gas builduip and it turns into a sea of mukus and disgusting goo.
holy shit moron-kuns
when embalming you alter the normal decaying process. the guts wont swell up due to being pumped full of formaldehyde
in regards to the coffin, it breaks from having a ton of earth dumped on top of it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Tbqh everything other than cremation just seems macabre. Why would I want my body to be preserved as an eidolon, just sitting there in a box underground forever?
10 months ago
Anonymous
In case you get resurrected, like in Blood.
10 months ago
Anonymous
My plan for resurrection is to just inhabit one of the genetically perfect clones of myself I'm planning on growing. Frick I hope some other soul doesn't portal into my clones, god that would suck.
10 months ago
Anonymous
What I find macabre, is in my country you need to have a note in your wallet specifically stating you don't want your organs to be harvested. If you don't have this note in your wallet, your organs are up for grabs. Nobody knows about this. I've mauled on it every now and then over the years: "It's not the worst if one of your organs can give someone a second lease on life".
What bugged me, and bugs me is that you need to have a note in your wallet specifically stating you don't want that.
Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care. Maybe it can do some good. It's more about theology and voodoo then, I think.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I remember xenotransplantation being a thing. Pigs had parts in them you could transplant to a human. But it was shortlived, Dolly the sheep came around, we were cloning, and pretty soon we would grow organs from scratch. Imagine the possibilities. I think we were slightly too optimistic about the whole thing. Either that or there's some conspiracy thing going on. We cloned a sheep in 1997. And then nothing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Iirc even the pope got his tighties in a bunch and made a statement about cloning. All over the media for weeks. One called it a triumph of humans, the other called it "The End Times."
10 months ago
Anonymous
I'm guessing it's like the moonlanding. They got results, got everyone hyped and ran into a wall that couldn't be solved with the current trajectory.
Don't forget we invented nanotechnology too. Nineties did everything. There was one guy who was asked about the level of nanotechnology we were on. He said: " "It's like trying to re-arrange lego blocks while wearing boxing gloves." I thought that was a cool way of putting it. Even a kid could inderstand.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>We cloned a sheep in 1997. And then nothing.
this pops into my head every once in a while. Theres no reason the technology isnt at a point where we can clone cute girls so everyone can have their favorite to raise as their own daughter. We cloned a sheep in the 90s, I should be able to adopt a clone of brooke sheilds by now.
Science has failed.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>We cloned a sheep in 1997. And then nothing.
cloning is still happening, its just not for you goy.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care.
Doctors will actively let you die when they could have otherwise saved you if you are a donor.
So in your case, unless you had that card in your wallet, you would not recieve optimum care in the case that your organs could be harvested.
When does harvesting start? It's concurrent with your death.
Doctors obviously dont want people to know the truths behind organ donorship.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's a good point. I try not to be too cynical about the whole thing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
So we are in agreement. It's fricked up that you are automatically a donor unless you have a note specifically stating you don't want that. The population doesn't know about this and a doctor could let you die, serving his own interests. Which goes against the base law of being a doctor: The Hippocrates Oath.
10 months ago
Anonymous
This is a meme and not true.
I'm married to an organ transplant coordinator
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lies, organs cannot be harvested from dead bodies >dead body = dead organs
You are alive when they harvest your organs, meaning they cannot possibly do everything possible to save your life
Not to mention they might give your organs and blood to israelites or minorities, better they go in the trash
10 months ago
Anonymous
How else are israeli mega moguls able to get their fresh supply of young goyim hearts to keep them alive for another 20 years, put in their skin creams, etc? Gotta have a nice assembly line always in motion. I doubt that card is going to keep them away from some 16 year old kid's heart anyway.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care
Throw you in the woods with a stick.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Basically, your body is government property. I can never own a piece of land either. I'm pretty content with my life standards, but it's a principle thing. I thought this was a democracy? When push comes to shove, you don't own a god damned thing, no matter how hard you worked for it. The state owns your house and it owns your body. Legally. Welcome to democracy.
10 months ago
Anonymous
KILL OR BE KILLED ONLY THE STRONGEST CAN CHOOSE HOW THEY DIE
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care.
Doctors will actively let you die when they could have otherwise saved you if you are a donor.
So in your case, unless you had that card in your wallet, you would not recieve optimum care in the case that your organs could be harvested.
When does harvesting start? It's concurrent with your death.
Doctors obviously dont want people to know the truths behind organ donorship.
Here in Brazil there was a notorious case 30 years ago where doctors took the organs out of a 10 year old boy who was still alive to sell in the black market for hundreds of thousands.
Ever since, most people do not want to be organ donors and people are instructed to be 100% sure their family members are dead before agreeing to donate organs.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Few people are knowledgeable in shit like this. Don't call me a moron, moron.
10 months ago
Anonymous
A lot of corpses weren't underground when they died. Also ground can provide some isolation, which is why they keep finding ancient mummies in bogs.
Mostly it's just chance that the environment will be just right to preserve you tbh
10 months ago
Anonymous
Bodies are eaten by the bacteria they are already filled with.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, skeletons do get eaten by bugs and bacteria.
The cowskull in the dessert is iconic because deserts are too dry for bugs and bacteria, so skeletons remain for a long time.
10 months ago
Anonymous
damn your post got me shaking, i just suddenly realized that there's a skeleton inside me right now!!!
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's a bull skull. And the horns are probably never there irl anymore, but it looks more photogenic.
10 months ago
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Plenty of things will crack open and eat the marrow out of a bone if they find it, and the rest flakes away or gets overgrown or trampled easily after that. The natural rot processes can destroy bones, too, but it often doesn't get the chance.
Read an interview with a forensic once and he said the best way is to just leave it out in the open air. But you need a big place for that, because the smell carries far. I suppose the kind of climate plays a factor in the rate of decomposing as well. But if you have a big property, with some forrest, you just leave it out in the open. Then just remember to discard of the bones, which is probably pretty easy. And a lot less messy.
>Then just remember to discard of the bones, which is probably pretty easy.
Scratch that, boss. If you leave a body in the open in a forest those bones are going to be scattered over several square miles. All animals, large and small, are going to scamper off with their little chunk.
She was legit moronic though and got away with it plenty of times prior. Obviously it worked until her brain shit itself and she dropped the ball. For a one off, if you really had to do it, you could probably just throw the body into a pen of hogs and then sit there until it was gone. Would be gruesome though and yeah I'm sure there's a lot of room for error but it's pretty much one of the only ways. Either that or a gator or maybe there's a snake somewhere in the Everglades that's big enough to and willing to swallow a body.
Cutting the entire body up yourself into small cubes and then disposing of said cubes in fresh water and in forests so that the fish and the birds eat it is a much much better way of disposing of a corpse than having pigs.
Murders that get caught aren't smart. 100% there are thousands of murderers out there that get away with it year after because they ain't fricking morons who do interviews about the person they murdered
It's not just about intelligence, you also have to be a psycopath or otherwise emotionally stunted in order to remain calm and collected enough not to frick up. It doesn't matter how smart you are if the guilt or anxiety eat you alive.
Where the frick would you just casually get a waterbutt and enough concrete to dump a human body into? And how would you dumb it into a lake, just lift it with your bare hands?
Where the frick would you just casually get a waterbutt and enough concrete to dump a human body into? And how would you dumb it into a lake, just lift it with your bare hands?
How do you figure? There are thousands of unsolved disappearances and presumed murders. Unless you're assuming that caught serial killers are also responsible for the unsolved ones, how can you come to that conclusion?
>or the people who genuinely go missing
Yes you do, like all the time. Whats the difference between going missing genuinely and going missing non genuinely? You didn't MEAN to die? Anyone got any spooky forensic files type games to play?
But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time. Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all frickin night.
When I tell you to dump a body in the marsh you dump it IN THE Marsh! No where John Hanwiener goes every Thursday to get a hand job
DONT LAUGH this ain't reality frickin tv
All you do when you come up with elaborate ways to dispose of a body is increase the surface area of your crime and give the police more opportunity to find you. Gangbangers have the right idea, drive up to your victim in a stolen car / motorbike, shoot them, drive off, set the car on fire. The only reason gang murders get solved is because half the time they are stupid enough to brag about it.
I wish I could've been an American serial killer during the 60s-70s. Imagine just being able to pickup girls, rape and kill them, then ditch their bodies along the highway and no one will ever know it was you.
Ever since I read that paper about asymmetric features=high mutagenic load=high chance for deviant social development I can't stop noticing people's half dropped faces and shit
I miss those kids so much... Oh, and my wife, I miss her too... Would be nice if, like, if you bump into them, like, let me know, ok? Brb gotta go, I have a date rn... With whom? Not with my wife, thats for sure hehe...
It is a tale as old as time... big ape puts his butt mistress up on a pedestal, loads his family up in barrels and rolls them out of the house. Gets thwarted by his neighbor the plumber. Classic Donkey Kong arcade scenaro
i don't think he was genuinely shocked (or he was, but not THAT much)
i think he was trying to fake a reaction of surprise, but his terminal autism caused it to be extremely weird
Think he was scared because he realises his plan to get rid of the body failed and he's now fricked. Of course he attempted to play it off as if he's greif struck but dude realised in the moment how screwed he is.
>Insist on helping with neighbours so you're DNA is at her apartment >Dispose of computer equipment/other incriminating evident immediately >Give no television interviews >Refuse to talk to police >If arrested, request legal counsel immediately
Any other moves for him?
He's still fricked but it's always an interesting game to play
What I like about this, or chose to like about this, is that it gives me the feeling that a life matters in a civilized society. Of course the underlying message is a lot darker: these are people who killed someone or someones in a spectacular fashion and are therefore remembered. I miss the time where I tried to be a better person and everyone had the same interests at heart. And the law was put in place to show a malleable society with ground rules. Read your bible. Civilization is about denying your instincts when they are non productive. And communication.
>YOUR HAYUR WAS THAYUR
In regards to this, the police lie to try and get a confession. And hair being present isn't proof of murder, especially in a neighbour's home.
> I am not a donor myself, there are a million reasons not to be one
Such as? In the case that you're already a lost cause. What would be a good reason not to donate your organs? From an ethical pov.
As far as legal matters go: my dad talked to every lawyer in the precinct (just like the Sopranos). My mom wanted to hire a lawyer but she wasn't allowed to hire a lawyer my dad had talked to. The lawyer was tainted, something like that. I was pretty impressed with my dad.
His response in that interview was perfectly in line for how an autist neightbor would respond to the revelation.
I always found it odd people called this interview a smoking gun meltdown. Even in hindsight it isn’t particularly out of line for someone finding out their neighbor was murdered.
hindsight bias by true crime amateurs who buy into body language analysis beyond a superficial level
I've delivered such news to parents whose kid just died and even they took it more gracefully than stayvun did. It's not normal for some guy who lived down the hall to start hyperventilating and shit
The frick is with the goofy lil weirdo lmao, he just threw her hacked up corpse in the dumpster did he think nobody was going to find it?
Brain of a child, unironically. If it's in the bin it doesn't exist hurrr durrr
They never found the rest of her, he was unlucky
Local rumors were that he buried her head on some property his dad owns. Maybe as a trophy, maybe as a bargaining chip.
it may sound like a stupid and half assed way to dispose of a body but he almost got away with it.
You would do the same
>did he think nobody was going to find it?
NOBODY was going to find it, he was smart enough to drop the body right before the garbage truck would arrive but miracuously it arrived late, that's why he was caught
It actually worked for the most part. They only found the torso. Plus he had an alibi for why his hair was in her apartment. He should've kept his mouth shut. Imagine talking to the police, now imagine being a law student and talking to the police.
They also found the saw he used for cutting up the body and all the fricked up shit in his appartment. Body or not the moment they got a search warrant it was over for him.
He actually won the interview though. That’s why this case is so spectacular. He completely btfo’d the interrogating officers and would’ve walked if not for the physical evidence.
>in the dumpster
he spread the garbage bags around different dumpsters.
if the trash collectors had gotten there before the authorities he'd have gotten away scot free and probably killed again
Not necessarily. He left a shit ton of DNA and other circumstantial evidence. Finding the torso just accelerated the process
yes
unironically, he would have got away with it if the trash collectors had arrived at their usual time, but they were late
cool it with the antisemetism, pal.
He killed her because she wouldn't frick him or something right?
No
I don't know
Stayvun camawn
CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION
ok.. did he kill her because she wouldn't frick him?
he was already breaking in to sniff her panties or whatever for weeks, he probably saw evidence she got a boyfriend or was about to get serious with a guy and snapped
no if im not getting this cased mixed up with another one i think she was going move out and had it marked on her calendar so he took as his last chance to have his way with her and killed her a couple days before her move out date.
why dont murderers just take the bodies to the landfill themselves?
The only surefire way is to have access to a pig
No, there was that one with that old woman who literally shat herself during interrogation. The pigs hadn't finished the job and they found a bodypart a bit farther on her premises.
She was legit moronic though and got away with it plenty of times prior. Obviously it worked until her brain shit itself and she dropped the ball. For a one off, if you really had to do it, you could probably just throw the body into a pen of hogs and then sit there until it was gone. Would be gruesome though and yeah I'm sure there's a lot of room for error but it's pretty much one of the only ways. Either that or a gator or maybe there's a snake somewhere in the Everglades that's big enough to and willing to swallow a body.
Read an interview with a forensic once and he said the best way is to just leave it out in the open air. But you need a big place for that, because the smell carries far. I suppose the kind of climate plays a factor in the rate of decomposing as well. But if you have a big property, with some forrest, you just leave it out in the open. Then just remember to discard of the bones, which is probably pretty easy. And a lot less messy.
So just have some acreage in West Virginia for "hunting"
Cleaned up my mother's garden last year. There was a fresh, dead bird in the corner. Near an ant hill. It was lying on concrete. The bird itself was gone pretty fast. Feathers and skeleton took longer. Forgot to pay attention to the beak. Just went to check and there's nothing left. I thought maybe there would still be an imprint, but no. A year is a long time. Probably rain and wind took care of the rest.
I wonder if a skeleton just gets eaten by bugs or bacteria too? All found skeletons are always the burried ones. Never in open air. The logical explanation is the ones in open air just get cleaned up right away. Picrel was always big in pop culture.
What skeletons are you talking about?
But probably it's just wind and animals picking them apart.
Anon... do you not know where bugs and bacteria live?
What do you mean? Both underground and above ground. It was just surprising to me, to read a corpse or cadavre gets picked apart faster above ground than under ground. Must be an oxygen thing. I always thought worms would eat me in three days, if I was burried. Going on a tangent: I read what happens to people who are burried in a casket too. Fricking nasty. Being burried without having your intestines removed is just brutal. It's a buildup of gas, your nails and hair still grow, the bugs are boring through your coffin, can't wait to feast on your corpse.
Can't you ask for a casket that will keep them out till your a skeleton?
I think the varnish does that. I wonder if removing intestines is standard practice? Otherwise your body just explodes in the casket because of gas builduip and it turns into a sea of mukus and disgusting goo.
I saw a grave cleaning. The casket was intact and on a sealed concrete box, not under the earth. There was nothing but bones and there were empty cocoons everywhere. Bugs made it into the game during the funeral and cycled in there until there was nothing left to eat
holy shit moron-kuns
when embalming you alter the normal decaying process. the guts wont swell up due to being pumped full of formaldehyde
in regards to the coffin, it breaks from having a ton of earth dumped on top of it.
Tbqh everything other than cremation just seems macabre. Why would I want my body to be preserved as an eidolon, just sitting there in a box underground forever?
In case you get resurrected, like in Blood.
My plan for resurrection is to just inhabit one of the genetically perfect clones of myself I'm planning on growing. Frick I hope some other soul doesn't portal into my clones, god that would suck.
What I find macabre, is in my country you need to have a note in your wallet specifically stating you don't want your organs to be harvested. If you don't have this note in your wallet, your organs are up for grabs. Nobody knows about this. I've mauled on it every now and then over the years: "It's not the worst if one of your organs can give someone a second lease on life".
What bugged me, and bugs me is that you need to have a note in your wallet specifically stating you don't want that.
Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care. Maybe it can do some good. It's more about theology and voodoo then, I think.
I remember xenotransplantation being a thing. Pigs had parts in them you could transplant to a human. But it was shortlived, Dolly the sheep came around, we were cloning, and pretty soon we would grow organs from scratch. Imagine the possibilities. I think we were slightly too optimistic about the whole thing. Either that or there's some conspiracy thing going on. We cloned a sheep in 1997. And then nothing.
Iirc even the pope got his tighties in a bunch and made a statement about cloning. All over the media for weeks. One called it a triumph of humans, the other called it "The End Times."
I'm guessing it's like the moonlanding. They got results, got everyone hyped and ran into a wall that couldn't be solved with the current trajectory.
scientificamerican.com/article/surgeons-transplant-pigs-heart-into-dying-human-patient-in-a-first/#:~:text=Pig%20heart%20valves%20have%20been,entire%20hearts%20from%20being%20transplanted.
Don't forget we invented nanotechnology too. Nineties did everything. There was one guy who was asked about the level of nanotechnology we were on. He said: " "It's like trying to re-arrange lego blocks while wearing boxing gloves." I thought that was a cool way of putting it. Even a kid could inderstand.
>We cloned a sheep in 1997. And then nothing.
this pops into my head every once in a while. Theres no reason the technology isnt at a point where we can clone cute girls so everyone can have their favorite to raise as their own daughter. We cloned a sheep in the 90s, I should be able to adopt a clone of brooke sheilds by now.
Science has failed.
>We cloned a sheep in 1997. And then nothing.
cloning is still happening, its just not for you goy.
>Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care.
Doctors will actively let you die when they could have otherwise saved you if you are a donor.
So in your case, unless you had that card in your wallet, you would not recieve optimum care in the case that your organs could be harvested.
When does harvesting start? It's concurrent with your death.
Doctors obviously dont want people to know the truths behind organ donorship.
That's a good point. I try not to be too cynical about the whole thing.
So we are in agreement. It's fricked up that you are automatically a donor unless you have a note specifically stating you don't want that. The population doesn't know about this and a doctor could let you die, serving his own interests. Which goes against the base law of being a doctor: The Hippocrates Oath.
This is a meme and not true.
I'm married to an organ transplant coordinator
Lies, organs cannot be harvested from dead bodies
>dead body = dead organs
You are alive when they harvest your organs, meaning they cannot possibly do everything possible to save your life
Not to mention they might give your organs and blood to israelites or minorities, better they go in the trash
How else are israeli mega moguls able to get their fresh supply of young goyim hearts to keep them alive for another 20 years, put in their skin creams, etc? Gotta have a nice assembly line always in motion. I doubt that card is going to keep them away from some 16 year old kid's heart anyway.
>Then again, I'm dead, so why would I care
Throw you in the woods with a stick.
Basically, your body is government property. I can never own a piece of land either. I'm pretty content with my life standards, but it's a principle thing. I thought this was a democracy? When push comes to shove, you don't own a god damned thing, no matter how hard you worked for it. The state owns your house and it owns your body. Legally. Welcome to democracy.
KILL OR BE KILLED ONLY THE STRONGEST CAN CHOOSE HOW THEY DIE
Here in Brazil there was a notorious case 30 years ago where doctors took the organs out of a 10 year old boy who was still alive to sell in the black market for hundreds of thousands.
Ever since, most people do not want to be organ donors and people are instructed to be 100% sure their family members are dead before agreeing to donate organs.
Few people are knowledgeable in shit like this. Don't call me a moron, moron.
A lot of corpses weren't underground when they died. Also ground can provide some isolation, which is why they keep finding ancient mummies in bogs.
Mostly it's just chance that the environment will be just right to preserve you tbh
Bodies are eaten by the bacteria they are already filled with.
Yes, skeletons do get eaten by bugs and bacteria.
The cowskull in the dessert is iconic because deserts are too dry for bugs and bacteria, so skeletons remain for a long time.
damn your post got me shaking, i just suddenly realized that there's a skeleton inside me right now!!!
It's a bull skull. And the horns are probably never there irl anymore, but it looks more photogenic.
Plenty of things will crack open and eat the marrow out of a bone if they find it, and the rest flakes away or gets overgrown or trampled easily after that. The natural rot processes can destroy bones, too, but it often doesn't get the chance.
>gator
they dont really regard humans as food
>Then just remember to discard of the bones, which is probably pretty easy.
Scratch that, boss. If you leave a body in the open in a forest those bones are going to be scattered over several square miles. All animals, large and small, are going to scamper off with their little chunk.
All animals, large and small, are going to scamper off with their little chunk.
Fair enough. God didn't make it this much of a hassle to murder or kill. We did. Or the people in charge did.
if the bones get scattered and your property is ever searched you're probably fricked
Qrd on this pig lady?
American
i think her name is susan monica
SWIDGEN wienerSUCKA
Cutting the entire body up yourself into small cubes and then disposing of said cubes in fresh water and in forests so that the fish and the birds eat it is a much much better way of disposing of a corpse than having pigs.
Desire to get rid of body as soon as possible, plus transporting the body comes with its own risks
Murders that get caught aren't smart. 100% there are thousands of murderers out there that get away with it year after because they ain't fricking morons who do interviews about the person they murdered
It's not just about intelligence, you also have to be a psycopath or otherwise emotionally stunted in order to remain calm and collected enough not to frick up. It doesn't matter how smart you are if the guilt or anxiety eat you alive.
People just can't drive up to a landfill like that
Yes you can. What shit hole do you live in?
There’s security cameras everywhere these days, driving to a landfill is literally one of the most moronic things you could do to dump a body
?
Yes you can.
I drove up there to throw out old funiture and shit and no one was digging through my trash bags
They can't?
Easier way:
>put body in waterbutt
>fill with concrete
>seal up
>drop into a quiet lake
>never worry about it again
lakes lower all the time in dry seasons moron, will undoubtedly be found
>lakes go completely dry
You don't know how lakes work. Sediment covers the barrel and nothing is ever found.
Where the frick would you just casually get a waterbutt and enough concrete to dump a human body into? And how would you dumb it into a lake, just lift it with your bare hands?
I can't anwer that question, unless you tell me it's for a friend.
yea, i am really strong. i can deadlift 300 pounds (twice my body weight)
We need a good unsolved mysteries show for today.
That netflix one was garbage and missed the entire point of the show
What about a habour? Say, a bay habour.
Do you have any idea how heavy that'd be? Good fricking luck doing that by yourself.
You don't hear about the succesful murders or the people who genuinely go missing.
I remember reading some analysis of missing people records saying there's hardly any that are truly unaccounted for that could be shadow murders
How do you figure? There are thousands of unsolved disappearances and presumed murders. Unless you're assuming that caught serial killers are also responsible for the unsolved ones, how can you come to that conclusion?
anon, nobody reports a homeless person missing.
the homeless are the obvious victims for serial killers.
>or the people who genuinely go missing
Yes you do, like all the time. Whats the difference between going missing genuinely and going missing non genuinely? You didn't MEAN to die? Anyone got any spooky forensic files type games to play?
bodies are disposed of intelligently.
it's just that we only hear about murders when they're not disposed of intelligently.
They do.
drive as far as you can out of town, dig a hole, put body in, leave. gg no re
But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time. Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all frickin night.
I don't think it was the moment where he realized he fricked up. He was just emoting being surprised.
How now, Stayvun?
he was a major pussy and got scared into shutdown mode
STAYVUN IS INNOCENT
just know an area with a lotta trees which people dont go to often and drop it there. the hard part is not being seen
When I tell you to dump a body in the marsh you dump it IN THE Marsh! No where John Hanwiener goes every Thursday to get a hand job
DONT LAUGH this ain't reality frickin tv
All you do when you come up with elaborate ways to dispose of a body is increase the surface area of your crime and give the police more opportunity to find you. Gangbangers have the right idea, drive up to your victim in a stolen car / motorbike, shoot them, drive off, set the car on fire. The only reason gang murders get solved is because half the time they are stupid enough to brag about it.
just do what he did
I wish I could've been an American serial killer during the 60s-70s. Imagine just being able to pickup girls, rape and kill them, then ditch their bodies along the highway and no one will ever know it was you.
Until 50 years later when they re-open the case and solve it using modern tech, arresting you as an 80 year old man with a smile on your face.
You still can. Just do it in a random city with random people ideally not using your own car and ideally have an alibi for a couple days.
2spooky
This dude just looks guilty of something. He should have been in jail from age 16 on principle.
Physiogamy
Ever since I read that paper about asymmetric features=high mutagenic load=high chance for deviant social development I can't stop noticing people's half dropped faces and shit
Will they ever find her skull?
Should I take my daily dose now?
DID YOU SUCK THE SHIT OUT OF HER ASS STAYVUN?
at least we got some answers here
STAYVUN WILL RUSSIA COLLAPSE
Stayvun, am I a gay Black person?
will Putin nuke Ukraine
That's horrible Stayvun.
Does Steven deserve to get kicked in the balls by every single member of that poor girl's family?
Will it happen in the next 5 years?
Am I gmi?
Will I die within the next 5 months?
Someone please post that edit of him in court wearing shades
CCTV?
p-put me d-down stayvun
I miss those kids so much... Oh, and my wife, I miss her too... Would be nice if, like, if you bump into them, like, let me know, ok? Brb gotta go, I have a date rn... With whom? Not with my wife, thats for sure hehe...
It is a tale as old as time... big ape puts his butt mistress up on a pedestal, loads his family up in barrels and rolls them out of the house. Gets thwarted by his neighbor the plumber. Classic Donkey Kong arcade scenaro
Lel
Heh.
Can you believe this guy was 33 years old when this happened?
homie loooks at least 45
>tfw same hairline at 24
shit, im 33. no wife. no kids, no house.
BUH-BUH-BUH-B-B-BUH-BODY? ZOINKS I GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE!
THOSE DAMNED BACKUS BROTHERS
This is off topic garbage
How? It was clearly broadcasted on television. Stupid Black person
THAT'S HORRIBLE, STAYVUN
STEYVUN
Did you take the cookie?!
i don't think he was genuinely shocked (or he was, but not THAT much)
i think he was trying to fake a reaction of surprise, but his terminal autism caused it to be extremely weird
He was genuinely surprised. He thought they'd never find the body.
Think he was scared because he realises his plan to get rid of the body failed and he's now fricked. Of course he attempted to play it off as if he's greif struck but dude realised in the moment how screwed he is.
you can visibly see his face going white in the news clip, anon. (if you find one with good quality)
why didn't steven just take her body to his place of work and bury her in a two-foot deep grave?
>Insist on helping with neighbours so you're DNA is at her apartment
>Dispose of computer equipment/other incriminating evident immediately
>Give no television interviews
>Refuse to talk to police
>If arrested, request legal counsel immediately
Any other moves for him?
He's still fricked but it's always an interesting game to play
He had a window of time to run away after he found out the body was discovered. That was pretty much his only option
What I like about this, or chose to like about this, is that it gives me the feeling that a life matters in a civilized society. Of course the underlying message is a lot darker: these are people who killed someone or someones in a spectacular fashion and are therefore remembered. I miss the time where I tried to be a better person and everyone had the same interests at heart. And the law was put in place to show a malleable society with ground rules. Read your bible. Civilization is about denying your instincts when they are non productive. And communication.
amen, brother. never get too jaded or cynical, it's the biggest downfall of our times.
babe wake up there's a rare stephenposting thread on tv today
whyd you do it stayvahn
whyd you kill her stayvahn
again?
>WHYD YOU DO IT STEVEN?
>I dunno
>SPEAK UP, I CANT HEAR YOU
Was there actual evidence connecting him to the crime? Did he actually confess?
They found footage of him stalking her. Footage he recorded.
YOUR HAYUR WAS THAYUR
SHE WAS SCREEMIN STAYVUN
>YOUR HAYUR WAS THAYUR
In regards to this, the police lie to try and get a confession. And hair being present isn't proof of murder, especially in a neighbour's home.
the saw he used to cut up her body was connected to him with dna
Why did he do it?
I don't know
> I am not a donor myself, there are a million reasons not to be one
Such as? In the case that you're already a lost cause. What would be a good reason not to donate your organs? From an ethical pov.
I remember him posting on operatorchan. Wish I had taken screennshots.
b-bomb?
>kill someone by bonking them on the head with a frozen fish
>eat fish later
>no murder weapon anymore
Explain to me why this doesn't work
>fish scale embeds in his skull
>kill someone by poking them with a sharp icicle
>icicle melts
>no murder weapon anymore
As far as legal matters go: my dad talked to every lawyer in the precinct (just like the Sopranos). My mom wanted to hire a lawyer but she wasn't allowed to hire a lawyer my dad had talked to. The lawyer was tainted, something like that. I was pretty impressed with my dad.
Anyways, my dad talked to all the best lawyers. Just so my mom couldn't hire them. It's a thing.