Bojack Horseman

>God awful rigged puppet animation
>Horrible characters
>Basically 22 minutes of nihilism that makes even Rick and Morty look cheerful

How did this show ever become successful and why did it resonate with millennials?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The standards for american adult animation are looooooooooow. Lower than even my IQ.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's funny how people say the SImpsons becomes shit after season 8 when it was still way better than every other adult cartoon for several seasons after that.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Adult animation is like 97% just "haha cartoon character say swear word"

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nihilism
    >constant self-hatred
    there's your answer, OP

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It become popular for many reasons but one big one is that it made it's viewers feel okay about being shitty people
    >But Diane did that whole rant about how she isn't trying to make people feel good about being shitty
    That was after the whole "Harvey Weinstein's a fan of the show" incident, the writers realized how much they fricked up and quickly went overly self aware and insecure.
    It's also why they also retconned Bojack into being directly responsible for Sarah Lynn's death

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Sudden influx of multiple daily Bojack threads
    So you're an autist who was late to the party and just recently watched the show, decided to hyper-fixate on it, and now we're going to be subject to your spergy melt-down until you move onto thomas the tank engine or something?

    How about checking out Rupert Bear? That seems to be popular among the neuro-divergent.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How about checking out Rupert Bear? That seems to be popular among the neuro-divergent.
      homie, don't you dare bring Rupert the motherfricking Bear into this. That guy is my hero.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >popular among the neuro-divergent
        >That guy is my hero.
        checks out.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >popular among the neuro-divergent
      Just say autistic anon.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean moron, "autists" shouldn't be referred to with anything less than a slur.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >posts on Cinemaphile
          >no theory of mind

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dafug you on about?

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not even nihilistic.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has a single person complaining about Bojack actually watched the show? Its not nihilistic, its just about fricked up old people who cant cope with their mental illnesses and traumas.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's someone spamming threads today about how bad Bojack Horseman is.
      It's just someone mad people like a show they don't.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not just today. It's been multiple bojack threads for at least a week. I'm guessing someone finally watched it and is mad it didn't fit neatly into their good guy vs bad guy/happily ever after paradigm.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Has a single person complaining about Bojack actually watched the show?
      Nope, it's just morons who only know the show from seth being butthurt

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I watched it and dropped it at the abortion episode.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Has a single person complaining about Bojack actually watched the show?
      Nope, it's just morons who only know the show from seth being butthurt

      I tried watching it around the time the third or fourth season started, and got about half-way through the first season before I had to drop it. It was so bland and mediocre and just felt like it was attempting for the humor out of subtle misery something like Arrested Development had, but without the effort to make it quality.
      About 3 months ago, after seeing a specific clip from the last season online being a totally different quality of writing, I decided that since the show is finished and still seen as quality, I might as well give it a fair chance so I spent 2 weeks going through the whole show.
      The problem is the show has moments of such peak quality but it has so much lower-tier fluff propping them up, that it's a steep climb, so a lot of people aren't going to like it, but you need that fluff for the other moments to play off of... it just needed to be better written.
      The time it that tries to hit, or parody, specific beats other adult sitcom shows do falls incredibly flat and any specific Hollywood reference to 'current events' is too on the nose with the one or two the SPECIFIC episodes that dabble in politics are just mouthpieces.
      They were trying to do to much with the show because they realized they had a vehicle of people's attentions, but despite this, there are moments of gold that can be found. There are specific moments of emotion and investment this show drew out of me hundreds of other shows and movies couldn't because of the character drama.
      On top of that, people think you're supposed to relate to Bojack in a specific way because he's the main character, like Rick Sanchez or Peter Griffin, and this confuses them when he's not treated with the same hand other similiar character arechtypes are. You're meant to relate to Bojack to reflect on yourself and see your own flaws as part of the art, not 'that silly guy is like me' and feel fulfilled by that surface connection as they do stupid, inexcusable shit for fun.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>God awful rigged puppet animation

    So, it's a modern cartoon?

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >22 minutes of nihilism
    It's not even nihilistic.
    If anything it's too naively optimistic, claiming a guy like BoJack can redeem himself.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The animation style always reminded me of Bitstrips

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Explain to me you don't understand the animation pipeline without saying you don't understand the animation pipeline

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How did this show ever become successful and why did it resonate with millennials?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Family Guy sucks too.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        B-but my meme..

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they animals, actually why is it even animated, it could have just been live action it being animated changes nothing

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are they animals, actually why is it even animated, it could have just been live action it being animated changes nothing

      It would've been funnier if Bojack was the only "furry" character and everyone else was human. Then it would later be revealed that he was the offspring of a woman fricking a horse.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      They do a lot of absurd stuff that wouldn't work in a live-action environment, or even be budgetary possible, as well as an occasional scene of visual art that you're meant to enjoy viewing.
      But, I always think it's a lazy question to ask why a cartoon HAS to exist as a cartoon, when in reality, it's just what they wanted to make. I see the same argument with KOTH, and it's just because they wanted to make a cartoon.
      In the 90s, Simpsons staff tried to do a live-action Krusty spin-off, and it fell flat instantly when they approached writing it in the same manner they write a cartoon, despite it being meant to be more down to earth.

      The animal aspect is just a stylistic choice they had fun with. The show was created after one of the artists drew Bojack as a joke, since he was literal Horse Man, and then someone else liked the design while playing around with potential show concepts and combined them. Then, they built the world around the idea the man character was an anthropomorphic horse and goofed with it.
      The show only has one or two episodes that touch upon it, but there are no regular animals on the show. Every animal is just humanoid, but they get to keep their animal abilities (like birds fly and gophers can dig) or tropes (like, Deers get run over jaywalking all the time, because of 'a deer in headlights'.) And they explain that people eat meat but it's super dark where it's animal-people drugged at birth to never grow mentally competent, and then chopped into food when they reach adulthood. And it's just an accepted part of society, aside from the occasional vegan. There are other minor references to how society evolved differently with literal animal men, but it's not really focused on.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I see the same argument with KOTH, and it's just because they wanted to make a cartoon.

        KOTH was actually good, Bojack in contrast is just constant misery porn with the character refusing to improve himself. People can quote the funny antics characters like Dale said because they were likable characters which were relatable to the audience. Apart from snobby millennials past their prime, nobody likes Bojack Horseman. Even zoomers who are constant preachers think it's lame and prefer to watch Family Guy with Subway Surfer playing in the background.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          You just saw KOTH and Bojack being compared and had to comment about how bad Bojack was, right?
          Because your rant has nothing to do with that I said, it's just you whining people like a show you think is bad.
          All I said was KOTH and Bojack are both cartoons because the people behind the shows wanted to make cartoons.
          Get some help man, your anger isn't healthy.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it could have just been live action

      Dead on arrival

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