It's never going to happen
Tarantino wanted to make a period setting for Bond and EoN didn't want it.
Bond will remain in modern setting because that's what Broccoli wants.
EON are just smart enough to know that Tarantino would have made a Tarantino film instead of a Bond film. Nolan made Batman. I mean can you imagine a Tarantino Batman ffs? It would be kino but it would also be an anomaly that would do nothing to create or further a viable franchise that could be picked up and carried along by the next director in line.
Nolan can make a film like that and therefore would have much greater negotiating power with EON. If he wants to take it back to the Ian Flemming novels then it also means he wants to create something uniquely Bond rather than generic action crap which to be honest is currently the greatest risk for the longevity of the Bond franchise with zoomers. Bond needs to have an identity that stands out. Is EON smart enough to know this though? Debatable.
I'm not surprised a hack like Nolan wants to make it a dumb period piece. Jesus fricking christ, he'll destroy the franchise and his troglodyte fans will thank him for it
This, making it a period piece would absolutely demolish the franchise even worse than NTTD. It's admitting the character is irrelevant and a cliche, undoing what GoldenEye did.
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The whole 'take Bond back to the 50s/60s' you often see anons arguing for has them fail to recognise that it would be nothing more than a cosmetic change. It does nothing to protect it from the problems that plague the current creative industry nor does it magically guarantee that they don't repeat the same problems they did with the Craig-run.
James Bond is the character in Dr. No created by Terence Young and Sean Connery. That's the Bond the whole world knows and loves, not the Fleming one. The reason you can continue Bond forever is because he's the timeless male ideal put into one character. I read the Fleming novels and the Bond in that is a complete bore, nowhere near the exhilarating playboy spy in the movies. >nor does it magically guarantee that they don't repeat the same problems they did with the Craig-run.
Craig was the problem with the Craig run. He pushed for most of the creative decisions that made people hate his movies, even brought in Phoebe Waller in the last one. With him gone, we'll just get Brosnan-style kino. Yes, there'll be some race/sex changes but mostly it'll be fun, lighthearted action kino.
I'm not surprised a hack like Nolan wants to make it a dumb period piece. Jesus fricking christ, he'll destroy the franchise and his troglodyte fans will thank him for it
The whole 'take Bond back to the 50s/60s' you often see anons arguing for has them fail to recognise that it would be nothing more than a cosmetic change. It does nothing to protect it from the problems that plague the current creative industry nor does it magically guarantee that they don't repeat the same problems they did with the Craig-run.
>The whole 'take Bond back to the 50s/60s' you often see anons arguing for has them fail to recognise that it would be nothing more than a cosmetic change.
Nah, we all know full well that they won't allow anything based to be made in Current Year, and as such would prefer literally nothing to whatever slop they're going to put out over the next decade or so
But when they take their heads out of their asses and decide to make good, faithful movies again, period pieces would be preferable
That's all
Eon gets paid millions by Aston Martin and Omega watches and whatever other product placement deals they have. Making a period film immediately removes that free money. No way in hell they allow a period piece.
Also, the thing that all the autists can't seem to understand, Bond is perceived as the big British blockbuster. It acts as a tourism ad for the country, escapist power fantasies for every middle-manager and higher in London who goes to work in suit, and evidence that the UK is still a relevant player in making blockbusters.
Making it a period piece undoes all of that because it's no longer "check out what Britain's up to", it instead becomes "check out when Britain used to be relevant"
Bond is the most prestigious film franchise, not only that but the biggest and most luxurious brands want a piece of Bond. Too much money. Unbelievable amounts of money.
>who would you pick to helm the franchise bucko?
I will forever be pissed that we never saw Danny Boyle's film.
Martin Campbell is an obvious good pick though. Really, anyone competent. The problem is normally Broccoli, Purvis and Wade. >bond is a standard actioner, something nolan excels in
lmao sorry, I didn't realise you were trolling
I can see them giving Bond a team like in those Mission Impossible movies where he has a bunch of mystery meats give him directions and they use the power of friendship to save the day.
>It will be respectful to the plots of the original books >But we decided to cast half of the cast as black chappies because Larry Fink is holding a financial gun to our heads
>have the movie take place in the 60s >actually Britain was always mostly indians and blacks and women were the top operatives since forever, bigot
aside from that i really hate the idea of having bond movies being a time period setting it is out of place, lame and only invites the worst kind of hindsight 20/20 writing
Period piece would be kino, but instead make it a complete prequel, not another adaptation of Casino but a WW2 movie about special operations and the origin of the 00 branch. With the Bond character being some kind of commando type being recruited, showing him as the cruel hardass putting on the secret agent veneer.
Isn't Casino already THE prequel?? Bond getting his status, first "heartbreak" with Vesper, getting his vasectomy. Doesn't it pretty much showcase the origin of everything?
Nolan has the right idea. I think they'll just end up doing the modern reboots though; tie-ins and product placement is too much of an appeal for Amazon/EON to be willing to put the longterm health and success of the franchise over immediate money.
Period Bond produced by Amazon? Say hello to Black M in the oh-so-diverse 1960's England, and a Bond that refuses to utter any ribald double-entendres towards women because of his esteeming respect for them.
I'd kind of want faithful adaptation of the Blofeld trilogy, since we never really got Bond and Blofeld becoming bitter rivals who want to murder each other more than anything. Also Blofeld's extensive physical changes between books would be interesting to see in live action
>Jane who?
Jane Bond, sir. She's a British secret agent. She's probably here to get the secret codes to Operation Mansplain VII. What'll we do, sir? >Jane Bond? Seriously? A chick? They sent a CHICK? (sighs in disgust) What the frick were they thinking?
O.K., here's what you do....have one of the men secure the codes, take them to the kitchen, hide them in a peanut butter jar and screw the lid on really, really, tight, so she can't open it. Then put it on the top shelf and remove all the chairs so she won't be able to reach it, the codes will be perfectly safe. Next, tell the gift shop to broadcast that they're having a 50% sale on all designer shoes, israeliteelry, and handbags. b***hes can't resist a sale on designer shoes, israeliteelry, and handbags. Then have your smallest and weakest guard go to the gift shop and overpower her while she's trying on shoes. Have him put her in the empty pool in the east wing that's still under construction, and cover it with a glass ceiling. Everybody knows b***hes can't break through a glass ceiling unless a man does it for them. After that, I'll deal with her personally at my leisure.
Very good, sir.
>ywn live in the timeline Clive Owen got the role in 2006 for Casino Royale with Mads and Eva >ywn see the best Bond that ever was, a perfect mix of Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton
I HATE BARBARA
I HATE BARBARA
I HATE BARBARA
I HATE BARBARA
I understand not wanting to sleep with Barbara but imagine it, anon. Him in a movie as good as that with Mads Mikkelsen and Eva Green. Hell, I'd accept black Felix as long as Clive was in. I will forever be haunted by this. Casino Royale could have been a true masterpiece.
Black person, Black person AND homosexual
That Nolan gets what he wants, if what that guy writes is true
for me, it's my waifu Lucy Boynton as Mrs. Moneypenny.
>that Nolan
That FREAK
It's never going to happen
Tarantino wanted to make a period setting for Bond and EoN didn't want it.
Bond will remain in modern setting because that's what Broccoli wants.
>because that's what Broccoli wants
Why is the opinion of a flatulent vegetable even relevant to this discussion?
because she owns the franchise
typical nepo baby situation
EON are just smart enough to know that Tarantino would have made a Tarantino film instead of a Bond film. Nolan made Batman. I mean can you imagine a Tarantino Batman ffs? It would be kino but it would also be an anomaly that would do nothing to create or further a viable franchise that could be picked up and carried along by the next director in line.
Nolan can make a film like that and therefore would have much greater negotiating power with EON. If he wants to take it back to the Ian Flemming novels then it also means he wants to create something uniquely Bond rather than generic action crap which to be honest is currently the greatest risk for the longevity of the Bond franchise with zoomers. Bond needs to have an identity that stands out. Is EON smart enough to know this though? Debatable.
You just know it needs to feature a black woman scientist
if black woman Q is the compromise to having the rest of the movie untouched, i'd take it.
More blacks and gays and women. Oh also russia are the bad guys!
I want them to leave Bond alone - at least for an extended period of time - as I have no real hope it will be good.
They'll announce Aaron Taylor-Johnson as the new 007 in the next few months. Make of that what you will.
I'm not surprised a hack like Nolan wants to make it a dumb period piece. Jesus fricking christ, he'll destroy the franchise and his troglodyte fans will thank him for it
This, making it a period piece would absolutely demolish the franchise even worse than NTTD. It's admitting the character is irrelevant and a cliche, undoing what GoldenEye did.
>It's admitting the character is irrelevant and a cliche
Nolan unironically want to redpill whole world about James Bond
James Bond is the character in Dr. No created by Terence Young and Sean Connery. That's the Bond the whole world knows and loves, not the Fleming one. The reason you can continue Bond forever is because he's the timeless male ideal put into one character. I read the Fleming novels and the Bond in that is a complete bore, nowhere near the exhilarating playboy spy in the movies.
>nor does it magically guarantee that they don't repeat the same problems they did with the Craig-run.
Craig was the problem with the Craig run. He pushed for most of the creative decisions that made people hate his movies, even brought in Phoebe Waller in the last one. With him gone, we'll just get Brosnan-style kino. Yes, there'll be some race/sex changes but mostly it'll be fun, lighthearted action kino.
The whole 'take Bond back to the 50s/60s' you often see anons arguing for has them fail to recognise that it would be nothing more than a cosmetic change. It does nothing to protect it from the problems that plague the current creative industry nor does it magically guarantee that they don't repeat the same problems they did with the Craig-run.
>The whole 'take Bond back to the 50s/60s' you often see anons arguing for has them fail to recognise that it would be nothing more than a cosmetic change.
Nah, we all know full well that they won't allow anything based to be made in Current Year, and as such would prefer literally nothing to whatever slop they're going to put out over the next decade or so
But when they take their heads out of their asses and decide to make good, faithful movies again, period pieces would be preferable
That's all
Eon gets paid millions by Aston Martin and Omega watches and whatever other product placement deals they have. Making a period film immediately removes that free money. No way in hell they allow a period piece.
Also, the thing that all the autists can't seem to understand, Bond is perceived as the big British blockbuster. It acts as a tourism ad for the country, escapist power fantasies for every middle-manager and higher in London who goes to work in suit, and evidence that the UK is still a relevant player in making blockbusters.
Making it a period piece undoes all of that because it's no longer "check out what Britain's up to", it instead becomes "check out when Britain used to be relevant"
Bond is the most prestigious film franchise, not only that but the biggest and most luxurious brands want a piece of Bond. Too much money. Unbelievable amounts of money.
he's a perfect fit
taking back in time would be the ideal move
Sure, if you're a fricking moron
who would you pick to helm the franchise bucko?
bond is a standard actioner, something nolan excels in
>who would you pick to helm the franchise bucko?
I will forever be pissed that we never saw Danny Boyle's film.
Martin Campbell is an obvious good pick though. Really, anyone competent. The problem is normally Broccoli, Purvis and Wade.
>bond is a standard actioner, something nolan excels in
lmao sorry, I didn't realise you were trolling
>in the modern era
I can see them giving Bond a team like in those Mission Impossible movies where he has a bunch of mystery meats give him directions and they use the power of friendship to save the day.
she*
>last Bond was a Russian homosexual midget
>the ones in line to replace him are israeli groomed twink, obvious homosexual and a mutt
IT'S OVER
>israeli Bond
If they'll do that, it would mean they're afraid and openly try to assert dominance.
It'll happen precisely because of that. Everything, especially now, are about politics.
in the modern era, meaning half the cast is black
Even if it were a retro Bond, they would still have a multicultural cast and modern politics etc
>It will be respectful to the plots of the original books
>But we decided to cast half of the cast as black chappies because Larry Fink is holding a financial gun to our heads
ayo that homie sussy wussy frfr ngl ong FAX yeeeeeeeee
>have the movie take place in the 60s
>actually Britain was always mostly indians and blacks and women were the top operatives since forever, bigot
aside from that i really hate the idea of having bond movies being a time period setting it is out of place, lame and only invites the worst kind of hindsight 20/20 writing
But imagine if Nolan had decided to make Oppenheimer a Bond movie instead of a historical drama, with Oppenheimer as the villain.
Period piece would be kino, but instead make it a complete prequel, not another adaptation of Casino but a WW2 movie about special operations and the origin of the 00 branch. With the Bond character being some kind of commando type being recruited, showing him as the cruel hardass putting on the secret agent veneer.
They would just give you something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwDen1Wrx8
cavil is embarrassing
>we need a lead actor in our spy thriller that isn't James Bond
>is it going to flop?
>Of course!
>I know just the actor...
Isn't Casino already THE prequel?? Bond getting his status, first "heartbreak" with Vesper, getting his vasectomy. Doesn't it pretty much showcase the origin of everything?
Are you ready for Cillian Murphy Bond?
He's far too old now. I can see him playing a kino villain though.
I'm open to different ideas and re-imagination of the character. As long as he kicks ass. The other thing is that he should be trans or queer.
The modern era is boring because technology takes the excitement out of things when it's so ubiquitous
Nolan has the right idea. I think they'll just end up doing the modern reboots though; tie-ins and product placement is too much of an appeal for Amazon/EON to be willing to put the longterm health and success of the franchise over immediate money.
Period Bond produced by Amazon? Say hello to Black M in the oh-so-diverse 1960's England, and a Bond that refuses to utter any ribald double-entendres towards women because of his esteeming respect for them.
I'd kind of want faithful adaptation of the Blofeld trilogy, since we never really got Bond and Blofeld becoming bitter rivals who want to murder each other more than anything. Also Blofeld's extensive physical changes between books would be interesting to see in live action
>Jane who?
Jane Bond, sir. She's a British secret agent. She's probably here to get the secret codes to Operation Mansplain VII. What'll we do, sir?
>Jane Bond? Seriously? A chick? They sent a CHICK? (sighs in disgust) What the frick were they thinking?
O.K., here's what you do....have one of the men secure the codes, take them to the kitchen, hide them in a peanut butter jar and screw the lid on really, really, tight, so she can't open it. Then put it on the top shelf and remove all the chairs so she won't be able to reach it, the codes will be perfectly safe. Next, tell the gift shop to broadcast that they're having a 50% sale on all designer shoes, israeliteelry, and handbags. b***hes can't resist a sale on designer shoes, israeliteelry, and handbags. Then have your smallest and weakest guard go to the gift shop and overpower her while she's trying on shoes. Have him put her in the empty pool in the east wing that's still under construction, and cover it with a glass ceiling. Everybody knows b***hes can't break through a glass ceiling unless a man does it for them. After that, I'll deal with her personally at my leisure.
Very good, sir.
Christopher Nolan presents
James Bond in
"You Only Get Gibs Twice"
1. Let Nolan do whatever he wants.
2. Stay out of his business.
3. I fricking mean it.
rip sound design
>his favourite Bond is Timothy Dalton
KINO
Nolan for Bond or GTFO
They need to go back to the campiness of the Moore era. Nolan is unable to deliver that level of comfy.
>ywn live in the timeline Clive Owen got the role in 2006 for Casino Royale with Mads and Eva
>ywn see the best Bond that ever was, a perfect mix of Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton
I HATE BARBARA
I HATE BARBARA
I HATE BARBARA
I HATE BARBARA
>The name is Bond, James Bond.
he turned down the role himself lol he left us to deal with that charmless blonde monkey
I understand not wanting to sleep with Barbara but imagine it, anon. Him in a movie as good as that with Mads Mikkelsen and Eva Green. Hell, I'd accept black Felix as long as Clive was in. I will forever be haunted by this. Casino Royale could have been a true masterpiece.