It has a pretty obvious outcome - when the old memes were being created, they were new and interesting. What makes soihumour soi is the repetition, like those reddit screenshots of fifty people all making the same jokes for updoots. "What's the deal with airline food?" was actually a funny bit when Seinfeld did it the first time, and it was just one joke in a lineup of dozens of other jokes. It only starts to turn soi or boring when it gets repeated by unoriginal shitters trying to milk it for clout and updoots.
The funny thing about old YTP memes was the repetition. The funny shit you could get out of an old format. Those memes stayed popular and fresh for years and CDI Zelda does to this day.
Reddit was Cinemaphile except it had an upvote system, and Cinemaphile didn't even have (You)s back then, so anons were creating content for the sheer lulz of it, the participation. And then you turn that around and turn it into clout and upvotes and suddenly people are just saying shit to get clout and dopamine points, which trivialises and cheapens the entire process of generative culture. ... I have thought about this a lot.
yeah ok but that doesnt change the fact that reddit was spawned on the basis of Cinemaphile culture and it was cringe as fuck back in the day. caturday threads "i can haz cheezburger" etc
I dunno man. You weren't there, you can't know, etc. It was a lot of silly, transient fun at the time. Mostly because it was new, we hadn't had 15 years of people repeating the same shit. This was back before anything on the internet ever spilled out into the real world. The big drawcard was that people used to using forums and BBs with like 20 posts per day all of a sudden got exposed to this one, huge site that had so much content that you'd get a whole new frontpage every time you F5'd.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>you weren't there
dude I literally witnessed caturday threads on /b/ as late as 2009.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>This was back before anything on the internet ever spilled out into the real world
this is the worst thing that happened. i still remember seeing tumblr/sa feminists talking points like privilege etc for the first time and then the inevitable reaction they got from sites like here and then gamergate exploding. then almost all sites became political because everyone became sure their typed sentences have real word consequences when they would be mocked for taking the internet too seriously before 2010
it's cringe as fuck today with every third thread going on about morons, bbc and fucking chuds. a lot of people seem to be treating 'Cinemaphile' as synonymous with /b/ though
>(You)'s and normies ruined Cinemaphile
This really is the hardest pill to swallow. That one little (You) in parentheses had so much negative effect on anons collective dopamine receptors. Suddenly it went from making content to have a laugh to stealing content to bait people to give you (You)'s
Yeah it’s because you guys are so fucking mentally I’ll that prolonged exposure to jokes you even like leads to hatred and misanthropy. Even now looking at an old gif you thought was funny you’re like ‘yeah current humor is shit and the world is made of bad people who take even funny things and ruin them by doing them until it makes me sick’. How about you just drop this bullshit entirely and say ‘ha mudkip was funny’ or even forgive the new generation for thinking equally as silly things are funny
While I'm baring my soul about this stuff -- it's not about "bad people who take funny things and ruin them", it's more like "people took free culture that created funny things and turned it into a moneymaking machine that beats a dead horse, then normies plugged into that machine". Mudkip _WAS_ damn funny. For that matter, there's nothing wrong with the newer generation, there's plenty of interesting and funny shit coming out of zoomer humour and culture that I think is fucking great.
If that’s the case I just don’t see what the corruption is supposed to be. Mudkip is funny and he got shared and enough people thought it was funny that it ended up being a fad. Sure that can be annoying but with a little patience and understanding that kids and new posters get carried away sometimes, you don’t have to register this funny image as some type of cultural problem. I definitely get it, the internet makes a lot of this stuff cringe, but it really doesn’t make sense to get mad at people for being into something you got over
For the record I am pro-mudkip, at no point in this thread have I attacked mudkipposting. I would never get mad at anyone posting mudkips. The stuff I consider cringe is like, some reddit thread where a guy drops his nokia and there's 100 identical posts, minutes and hours apart, saying "I bet it still works"
1 year ago
Anonymous
I guess so. We do that here too
1 year ago
Anonymous
But even if you do the infinite repeat joke Cinemaphile > it dies with the thread > nobody gets points attached to their account
So you can kind of trust that "the joke is everyone making the same joke" rather than that people are just making the joke
Man I remember Pepe/wojak in 2009 being still very ... unexportable outside Cinemaphile. It took until like 2016 for it to jump simultaneously into being generic templates and to be fucking everywhere else.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Twitch is really where Pepe enters the mainstream.
Image boards are niche. Reddit as much as it is, still niche. People don't really post only reaction images on Twitter/FB and usually do memes with more words/a joke in them.
When twitch got a chrome extension called BTTV which allowed channels to add customizable emotes is when pepe finally hit mainstream mainstream. Also showed that most twitch watchers/influencers also browse Cinemaphile. I constantly see new/old memes making it mainstream because of a big streamer added it to their meta emote list.
Wojaks are now growing in popularity on twitch too.
believe it or not Cinemaphile evolved into reddit. reddit became a mirror that reflected Cinemaphile back at itself. then Cinemaphile just became about not being reddit.
yes, as in Cinemaphile was reddit, and then reddit was developed as a standalone website on the basis of Cinemaphile culture. reddit then as i say became a mirror that reflected Cinemaphile back at itself, Cinemaphile hated looking at tits cringy hideous appearance and then set out to become the opposite of that. pretty standard stuff
yes, Cinemaphile was always kind of faggy, back in it's "heyday". I guess people just hear stories about the infamous /b/ from way back when and assume the site actually was this dangerous, degenerate hacker board, but the sad fact of the matter is that unfunny queers and lameasses were pretty much half of the userbase even at the sites peak
Yeah but it got a lot fucking never-gooder after 2014. But fuck me if it isn't still the most interesting large-traffic place on the internet, which is why I am sadly still here. Everywhere else is worse.
imagine monty python when it came out. probably original and quite funny, the fedora tipping and random humour was novel and inventive. now imagine a generation of people who have obnoxiously centred their personality around these movies and endlessly parroted them with none of the original creativity that the creators of the property had. it then becomes reddit because of them
>probably original and quite funny
I mean fuck, with actual Monty Python this is a huge understatement. Most people alive in Britain had never seen anything like it, and it took at least a decade for anything else to catch up with it. Yeah, early Cinemaphile (and SA, even Fark.com for that matter) was a lot like this.
God fucking damn I miss 2007-era Cinemaphile. It still felt like a unique and generative cultural centre. Using this site today feels like strolling in the ruins of a greater civilisation, shepherds grazing their flocks in the Forum.
>a random meme back in the days = the whole of Cinemaphile
why do zoomers that have no idea about the old culture and site culture even try and speculate about shit they have no idea about?
as an obama newfag even in the early 2010s Cinemaphile was unironically filled with trannies. there was a huge meme of “i want to BE the little girl” on /a/ that was foreshadowing later events
There was always a chud/trap thread on /b/, and it'd get spammed with gore, the usual shitposting about calling people gays and traps gay but the reality you have to accept back then was this. People just thought it was a fetish, a degenerate, garbage fetish but in the end just another form of gayry. Furfags and beastfags that routinely had daily threads on /b/ were seen as much worse. As well as brownies and e-boi threads. Then somewhere between then and now the bisexual/gay traps that liked to dress up in feminine clothing and camwhore on /b/ ended up unionizing. Trannies gained full on widespread support by the medical industry and an astroturf campaign out of nowhere popularized and started legitimizing the movement in the eyes of the public as something more than another degenerate fetish posted that has a nonstop bumped thread on /b/. The monster ballooned and grew out of control to the point we are now today.
There was always trap threads. But there wasn't always trannies. The trannies are the evolution of the cancer that was there and overlooked.
>There was always a chud/trap thread on /b/, and it'd get spammed with gore
not always, and that didn't start happening regularly till later.
I never saw a linetrap thread get that kind of treatment, and everyone loved >her
>People just thought it was a fetish, a degenerate, garbage fetish
this is true, but also a little bit misleading. Being a degenerate was kind of a positive thing back then, a kind of badge of honour.
The culture of the time was against the mainstream, and there were zero mainstream trannies or chud acceptance. It was rebellious (and funny) to coom to traps/futa. It was almost seen as a challenge to fap to shitting dick-nipples or 2girls1cup, that would make you a trve Cinemaphilener.
You have to remember that back then it was overwhelmingly a weeb site, where today it's overwhelmingly a right-wing political site. Degenerate is something you now apply to your political enemies, not yourself.
>Furfags and beastfags that routinely had daily threads on /b/ were seen as much worse.
Also completely true, they were (rightly) shat on as long as I can remember.
I mean I jacked off to it but I was also an impressionable 12 year old when I started posting on Cinemaphile in 2008. Also jacked off to furry shit and I had to cleanse a lot of that mentally out of my mind years ago when I took a step back from my horny teenager years and really looked in a mirror. The main reason I remember the gore is because I couldn't tell you the number of times that I shamefully went into a chud or fur thread and found gore posted every other post. I remember that as early as mid 2009 when the gore spammer happened. Fucking shocked I don't have a gorufetish to this day by powering through jacking off when scrolling through fully expanded images and seeing a mans torso cut open etc.
There was definitely an echo chamber for traps and a supportive community in that thread of others who partook in the gayry but every 3rd or 4th post was also heckling and mocking. Just with less vitriol. Because at the time these were just seen as run of the mill gays who liked to crossdress and not she/her pronoun whose transitioning to full female and was protected by their therapists note saying they could sit out PE class.
I was the same age as you when I started coming here and fapping to trannies, but a couple of years earlier.
Was /r9k/ a thing by 2009? Because I stopped using /b/ and switched to there as soon as that board was launched, then came to /misc/ when /r9k/ became the incel board. I can't remember when I switched to videos for fapping, but I remember my habit was to save pictures to my ipod/PSP to fap to later. So maybe I'm just forgetting about the early gore spam because I could just close those threads or not open the pictures because I wasn't browsing with my dick out. But I still feel like that came a bit later and there wasn't much negativity about trannies. Also that seems like I would have ignored that as the work of a single autist, since you didn't have post cooldowns or captchas back then, so you didn't need to coordinate that kind of stuff.
Anyway, I never stopped fapping to trannies and I never will. I'm not as impressionable as you so I won't allow myself to feel bad about cooming to them. It feels good, I like it.
Yeah, /r9k/ was big in 2009, I think it started in later 2008. Fucking hell that was fun for a little while before it turned into the /r9k/ that we know today. Astounding how quickly the definitive OC board converged on the basic human fact that the most original content was just people whinging about tfw no gf.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the tard stories and the wagie stories were kino
I spent a lot of time on Cinemaphile early on too, lot of OC from there that is still influential as fuck.
See, the thing here is that a trap by definition has to pass well enough to be able to trick a heterosexual man into thinking they're female. Trannies are all obviously men and they're so mentally ill that they chug experimental pharmaceuticals in the vain hope they can change their anatomy.
>Anyway, I never stopped fapping to trannies and I never will. I'm not as impressionable as you so I won't allow myself to feel bad about cooming to them. It feels good, I like it.
most of the notable memes from that time were from /b/ where people just spammed something weird and memorable ad nauseum (desu, shoop da woop, dsfargeg etc) back when it was the fastest board and completely full of meaningless noise, go to /s4s/ if you want a similar experience to old /b/
Reading old Cinemaphile screencaps is really embarrassing. Whether it’s from 2004 or 2011
or today
I bet everything you post is cringe
No it's epic for the win.
Irony was a mistake, it was a better time
something about ED...
Mud!
kip
Mud!
Kip!!
Show me an example of humour that zoomers unanimously agree is funny.
?
just saying "E" for no reason was the normie zoomer version of SNEED for a while.
>"E" for no reason
oh, there was a reason. A series of inter-related memes lead to the development of 'E'-posting
1. checked
2. say more
>zoomers best attempt at meme culture is yet again an insipid facsimile of the millennial predecessor
its not funny
Kek
Why do old memes feel like soihumor?
It has a pretty obvious outcome - when the old memes were being created, they were new and interesting. What makes soihumour soi is the repetition, like those reddit screenshots of fifty people all making the same jokes for updoots. "What's the deal with airline food?" was actually a funny bit when Seinfeld did it the first time, and it was just one joke in a lineup of dozens of other jokes. It only starts to turn soi or boring when it gets repeated by unoriginal shitters trying to milk it for clout and updoots.
The funny thing about old YTP memes was the repetition. The funny shit you could get out of an old format. Those memes stayed popular and fresh for years and CDI Zelda does to this day.
That's more like variation on a theme, or slightly changing context, which is still funny
Reddit was Cinemaphile except it had an upvote system, and Cinemaphile didn't even have (You)s back then, so anons were creating content for the sheer lulz of it, the participation. And then you turn that around and turn it into clout and upvotes and suddenly people are just saying shit to get clout and dopamine points, which trivialises and cheapens the entire process of generative culture. ... I have thought about this a lot.
That was definitely a mistake
yeah ok but that doesnt change the fact that reddit was spawned on the basis of Cinemaphile culture and it was cringe as fuck back in the day. caturday threads "i can haz cheezburger" etc
I dunno man. You weren't there, you can't know, etc. It was a lot of silly, transient fun at the time. Mostly because it was new, we hadn't had 15 years of people repeating the same shit. This was back before anything on the internet ever spilled out into the real world. The big drawcard was that people used to using forums and BBs with like 20 posts per day all of a sudden got exposed to this one, huge site that had so much content that you'd get a whole new frontpage every time you F5'd.
>you weren't there
dude I literally witnessed caturday threads on /b/ as late as 2009.
>This was back before anything on the internet ever spilled out into the real world
this is the worst thing that happened. i still remember seeing tumblr/sa feminists talking points like privilege etc for the first time and then the inevitable reaction they got from sites like here and then gamergate exploding. then almost all sites became political because everyone became sure their typed sentences have real word consequences when they would be mocked for taking the internet too seriously before 2010
it's cringe as fuck today with every third thread going on about morons, bbc and fucking chuds. a lot of people seem to be treating 'Cinemaphile' as synonymous with /b/ though
>(You)'s and normies ruined Cinemaphile
This really is the hardest pill to swallow. That one little (You) in parentheses had so much negative effect on anons collective dopamine receptors. Suddenly it went from making content to have a laugh to stealing content to bait people to give you (You)'s
this
Yeah it’s because you guys are so fucking mentally I’ll that prolonged exposure to jokes you even like leads to hatred and misanthropy. Even now looking at an old gif you thought was funny you’re like ‘yeah current humor is shit and the world is made of bad people who take even funny things and ruin them by doing them until it makes me sick’. How about you just drop this bullshit entirely and say ‘ha mudkip was funny’ or even forgive the new generation for thinking equally as silly things are funny
While I'm baring my soul about this stuff -- it's not about "bad people who take funny things and ruin them", it's more like "people took free culture that created funny things and turned it into a moneymaking machine that beats a dead horse, then normies plugged into that machine". Mudkip _WAS_ damn funny. For that matter, there's nothing wrong with the newer generation, there's plenty of interesting and funny shit coming out of zoomer humour and culture that I think is fucking great.
If that’s the case I just don’t see what the corruption is supposed to be. Mudkip is funny and he got shared and enough people thought it was funny that it ended up being a fad. Sure that can be annoying but with a little patience and understanding that kids and new posters get carried away sometimes, you don’t have to register this funny image as some type of cultural problem. I definitely get it, the internet makes a lot of this stuff cringe, but it really doesn’t make sense to get mad at people for being into something you got over
For the record I am pro-mudkip, at no point in this thread have I attacked mudkipposting. I would never get mad at anyone posting mudkips. The stuff I consider cringe is like, some reddit thread where a guy drops his nokia and there's 100 identical posts, minutes and hours apart, saying "I bet it still works"
I guess so. We do that here too
But even if you do the infinite repeat joke Cinemaphile
> it dies with the thread
> nobody gets points attached to their account
So you can kind of trust that "the joke is everyone making the same joke" rather than that people are just making the joke
Man I remember Pepe/wojak in 2009 being still very ... unexportable outside Cinemaphile. It took until like 2016 for it to jump simultaneously into being generic templates and to be fucking everywhere else.
Twitch is really where Pepe enters the mainstream.
Image boards are niche. Reddit as much as it is, still niche. People don't really post only reaction images on Twitter/FB and usually do memes with more words/a joke in them.
When twitch got a chrome extension called BTTV which allowed channels to add customizable emotes is when pepe finally hit mainstream mainstream. Also showed that most twitch watchers/influencers also browse Cinemaphile. I constantly see new/old memes making it mainstream because of a big streamer added it to their meta emote list.
Wojaks are now growing in popularity on twitch too.
Encyclopedia Dramatica is hilarious
believe it or not Cinemaphile evolved into reddit. reddit became a mirror that reflected Cinemaphile back at itself. then Cinemaphile just became about not being reddit.
>Cinemaphile evolved into reddit before it was a thing
yes, as in Cinemaphile was reddit, and then reddit was developed as a standalone website on the basis of Cinemaphile culture. reddit then as i say became a mirror that reflected Cinemaphile back at itself, Cinemaphile hated looking at tits cringy hideous appearance and then set out to become the opposite of that. pretty standard stuff
yes, Cinemaphile was always kind of faggy, back in it's "heyday". I guess people just hear stories about the infamous /b/ from way back when and assume the site actually was this dangerous, degenerate hacker board, but the sad fact of the matter is that unfunny queers and lameasses were pretty much half of the userbase even at the sites peak
yeah so lame not even any moron humor and speech
It was never good, fags
Yeah but it got a lot fucking never-gooder after 2014. But fuck me if it isn't still the most interesting large-traffic place on the internet, which is why I am sadly still here. Everywhere else is worse.
>it's bad but not actually
Fuck off, you talk like a woman.
All new "memes" are soihumor. It's all leftist drivel.
memes became soihumor when they started being called memes
imagine monty python when it came out. probably original and quite funny, the fedora tipping and random humour was novel and inventive. now imagine a generation of people who have obnoxiously centred their personality around these movies and endlessly parroted them with none of the original creativity that the creators of the property had. it then becomes reddit because of them
>probably original and quite funny
I mean fuck, with actual Monty Python this is a huge understatement. Most people alive in Britain had never seen anything like it, and it took at least a decade for anything else to catch up with it. Yeah, early Cinemaphile (and SA, even Fark.com for that matter) was a lot like this.
So do you like them, OP?
I still liek them :'(
God fucking damn I miss 2007-era Cinemaphile. It still felt like a unique and generative cultural centre. Using this site today feels like strolling in the ruins of a greater civilisation, shepherds grazing their flocks in the Forum.
>Find random YTP meme and post it here to complain about it
Are you a gay moron?
sorry
that was millennials
>a random meme back in the days = the whole of Cinemaphile
why do zoomers that have no idea about the old culture and site culture even try and speculate about shit they have no idea about?
>what back in they days people were genuine and had fun?
>that's so cringe, why didn't they do this behind 3 layers of irony?
Post 1 (one) funny thread from that era
Zoomers do tons of shit without irony you just shit on them too because you legitimately don’t believe dances and shit aren’t ironic
Show me some examples.
better than king of the shill
>>boomer thought this was the funniest shit ever
>noooo you can't have fun, you have to be sour and angry all day
zoomie Cinemaphileners = epic fail
as an obama newfag even in the early 2010s Cinemaphile was unironically filled with trannies. there was a huge meme of “i want to BE the little girl” on /a/ that was foreshadowing later events
There was always a chud/trap thread on /b/, and it'd get spammed with gore, the usual shitposting about calling people gays and traps gay but the reality you have to accept back then was this. People just thought it was a fetish, a degenerate, garbage fetish but in the end just another form of gayry. Furfags and beastfags that routinely had daily threads on /b/ were seen as much worse. As well as brownies and e-boi threads. Then somewhere between then and now the bisexual/gay traps that liked to dress up in feminine clothing and camwhore on /b/ ended up unionizing. Trannies gained full on widespread support by the medical industry and an astroturf campaign out of nowhere popularized and started legitimizing the movement in the eyes of the public as something more than another degenerate fetish posted that has a nonstop bumped thread on /b/. The monster ballooned and grew out of control to the point we are now today.
There was always trap threads. But there wasn't always trannies. The trannies are the evolution of the cancer that was there and overlooked.
As well as bronies* not brownies.
that’s an enlightening post, thanks
>There was always a chud/trap thread on /b/, and it'd get spammed with gore
not always, and that didn't start happening regularly till later.
I never saw a linetrap thread get that kind of treatment, and everyone loved >her
>People just thought it was a fetish, a degenerate, garbage fetish
this is true, but also a little bit misleading. Being a degenerate was kind of a positive thing back then, a kind of badge of honour.
The culture of the time was against the mainstream, and there were zero mainstream trannies or chud acceptance. It was rebellious (and funny) to coom to traps/futa. It was almost seen as a challenge to fap to shitting dick-nipples or 2girls1cup, that would make you a trve Cinemaphilener.
You have to remember that back then it was overwhelmingly a weeb site, where today it's overwhelmingly a right-wing political site. Degenerate is something you now apply to your political enemies, not yourself.
>Furfags and beastfags that routinely had daily threads on /b/ were seen as much worse.
Also completely true, they were (rightly) shat on as long as I can remember.
I mean I jacked off to it but I was also an impressionable 12 year old when I started posting on Cinemaphile in 2008. Also jacked off to furry shit and I had to cleanse a lot of that mentally out of my mind years ago when I took a step back from my horny teenager years and really looked in a mirror. The main reason I remember the gore is because I couldn't tell you the number of times that I shamefully went into a chud or fur thread and found gore posted every other post. I remember that as early as mid 2009 when the gore spammer happened. Fucking shocked I don't have a gorufetish to this day by powering through jacking off when scrolling through fully expanded images and seeing a mans torso cut open etc.
There was definitely an echo chamber for traps and a supportive community in that thread of others who partook in the gayry but every 3rd or 4th post was also heckling and mocking. Just with less vitriol. Because at the time these were just seen as run of the mill gays who liked to crossdress and not she/her pronoun whose transitioning to full female and was protected by their therapists note saying they could sit out PE class.
I was the same age as you when I started coming here and fapping to trannies, but a couple of years earlier.
Was /r9k/ a thing by 2009? Because I stopped using /b/ and switched to there as soon as that board was launched, then came to /misc/ when /r9k/ became the incel board. I can't remember when I switched to videos for fapping, but I remember my habit was to save pictures to my ipod/PSP to fap to later. So maybe I'm just forgetting about the early gore spam because I could just close those threads or not open the pictures because I wasn't browsing with my dick out. But I still feel like that came a bit later and there wasn't much negativity about trannies. Also that seems like I would have ignored that as the work of a single autist, since you didn't have post cooldowns or captchas back then, so you didn't need to coordinate that kind of stuff.
Anyway, I never stopped fapping to trannies and I never will. I'm not as impressionable as you so I won't allow myself to feel bad about cooming to them. It feels good, I like it.
gay
Yeah, /r9k/ was big in 2009, I think it started in later 2008. Fucking hell that was fun for a little while before it turned into the /r9k/ that we know today. Astounding how quickly the definitive OC board converged on the basic human fact that the most original content was just people whinging about tfw no gf.
the tard stories and the wagie stories were kino
I spent a lot of time on Cinemaphile early on too, lot of OC from there that is still influential as fuck.
(You)s and gays using wojak as a meme template ruined this place even before soijaks started appearing.
Remember when you could say morons without triggering a bunch of snowflakes and trannies?
Remember when trannies were called traps and everyone knew they were supposed to be a joke rather than role models?
See, the thing here is that a trap by definition has to pass well enough to be able to trick a heterosexual man into thinking they're female. Trannies are all obviously men and they're so mentally ill that they chug experimental pharmaceuticals in the vain hope they can change their anatomy.
KIP
>go to imagefap.com
>search e-boita
>shit bricks
i herd u liek
>Anyway, I never stopped fapping to trannies and I never will. I'm not as impressionable as you so I won't allow myself to feel bad about cooming to them. It feels good, I like it.
>DUDE just repeat the same words a billion times, it's funny
it's quite literally the same as zoomer humor, you should love it
most of the notable memes from that time were from /b/ where people just spammed something weird and memorable ad nauseum (desu, shoop da woop, dsfargeg etc) back when it was the fastest board and completely full of meaningless noise, go to /s4s/ if you want a similar experience to old /b/
Shoop da woop is funnier than anything zoomers have created.
i haz all the mudkips! >:3
The old internet was great
Wait this meme seriously makes zoomers seethe? Even in this thread you have a zoomer coping like crazy