>both Star Trek cartoons get canceled in the span of one year
>Prodigy's cancelation sparks a massive outrage
>the petition reaches 30k signatures in two weeks
>someone rents out a plane to fly a Star Trek: Prodigy banner over streaming companies' headquarters in LA
>Netflix picks up Star Trek: Prodigy and renews it for a 20 episode season two
>...
>Lower Decks gets canceled
>one month later the change.org petition can't even pop 10k signatures
>all attempts to organize a rally fail miserably because no one cares
Now that the dust has settled, why did Lower Decks fail so bad despite being pushed so much more aggressively online?
Prodigy's cancellation was inevitable and I knew it would happen from the start.
How?
Nickelodeon....
Having a trans MC/FemC wasn't helping either. She had 2 dad's and he was 15 races/genders mixed together
Jesse what the frick are you talking about?
And it’s still less gay than Lezzie Dykes
This. Already rumors of their Transformers cartoon getting axed next.
>>both Star Trek cartoons get canceled in the span of one year
>LD had multiple seasons
>cancelled in one year
uh
Prodigy was good.
Lower Decks was not.
Scratch that, reverse it.
scratch deez nuts, Drekker
Lower decks got more seasons because it wasn't garbage like prodigy. Even got a collab with best trek SNW
>split one season into two and dripfeed episodes each year so it looks like you’re producing more content than you actually do
Prodigy and Lower Decks both have 40 episodes each. Except Prodigy actually has a shot at renewal from Netflix. No one wants more Lower Decks.
I thought it was weird how Mike and Rich enjoyed Lower Decks but despised Strange New Worlds for being "quippy"
probably a mixture of expectations and format, it was marketed differently than SNW as an "Adult animated comedy star trek" instead of the Return to form that SNW was and the 20 minute episodes probably help eliviate the quippyness slightly
Because nepo baby Jack Quaid is their friend and they’ll praise anything made by someone they know. They were shitting on Lower Decks constantly before they got Quaid on their podcast.
Prodigy was toddler shit. Toddler's still believe that petitions make a difference.
All I have to say is that I think Mariner is pretty cute.
same
>Now that the dust has settled, why did Lower Decks fail so bad despite being pushed so much more aggressively online?
Lower Decks is unironically the sort of thing RLM's "I CLAPPED BECAUSE I KNOW STAR WARS" meme is all about. It's a thing that made left-of-the-curve idiots clap and laugh because they vaguely understood they were getting hamfisted references to older trek media shoved in their faces.
Same sort of audience that creamed themselves over all the obvious references in the new Fallout show. They don't care if the writing is good or anything makes sense or if it's even remotely intelligent. They enjoy seeing a thing they know, but in a place that the original thing wasn't.
It failed on delivering the only reason people watched it for gay points.
People wanted the quirked up white boy to get with the brown bisexual tomboy.
>People wanted
You mean reddit?
That's 99% of Star Trek's core audience.
Couldn't get into Lower Decks. Mariner was obnoxious and screaming frick between constant memberberries wasn't doing it for me. Also, it felt like it was too fast paced. I felt it was better when I set the playback speed to 90%.
Why do anons go cross eyed and foam at the mouth when a show is referencing an older episode in the franchise?
Assuming you're not trolling, when "remember [thing]?" is practically all a show is comprised of, it's not just inherently lazy, but shows a complete lack of faith and interest in one's own material. If you don't care about what YOUR OWN SHOW brings to the table that others didn't, telling YOUR OWN STORIES, then people will care far less about giving you the time of day.
Isn't that every trek though. Prodigy was just a massive Janeway wank
I am curious as to what anon's standards for a memberry is, I remember anons getting pissed off because of the booth episode having those game obsessed aliens having copies of that one headset that brainwashed everybody in tng and it was just a background thing
I don't know. I've never seen Lower Decks; I was just using my own rationale for disliking when works do excessive references. For all I know, Lower Decks had one or two, and other anon was blowing it out of proportion, as is custom on Cinemaphile.
They're not mentally well. They claim to not like a show but jack off while watching every episode of their own free will.
Lower Decks season 3 was hot garbage, don't know how season 4 was. Lost interest thanks to 3
I'm not sure if we can count multiple seasons "failure" at this point. But Lower Decks was always risky from the start, because it had the impossible task of being a comedy show while also being a Star Trek show. Comedy is hard at the best of times, and trying to do that while also having it fit even remotely in the paradigm of a usually very serious setting is harder still. Basically, the entire premise of Lower Decks was to drag out fandom in-jokes into an entire comedy series. Jokes like "haha, the holodeck must be pretty dirty because I'm sure people jerk off in there". And whenever there isn't enough stuff like that to source for humor, they just fall back on stereotypical modern American cartoon tropes. Which is people yelling, people getting hurt, hyperactive behavior, and non sequiturs. When push comes to shove the audience intersection between people who are looking for Star Trek and people who are looking for comedy isn't big, either. You're going to get a lot of people who are there just for one thing, and we wouldn't even be talking about it if that one thing wasn't Trek.
And a lot of people who watched it came to the same solution as I did: There isn't enough Trek in there to continue suffering through its horrible comedy. Some people said it gets better in season 2, but half of season 1 gave me the exact same feeling as when I tried watching Discovery. It's just such a horribly cynical trash fire of a show.
That's a big "This." from me
I watched through season 3 because I'm a masochist and it only got worse. They doubled down on the random gratuitous violence, had some truly strange targets for their comedy (never thought Star Trek would be punching down on the disabled or asexuals), and thought throwing in the occasional shitty speech about exploration and science was enough to balance that.
good