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The spirit is fricking there, but the pieces are poorly assembled.
This film was so confusing. Philip first showing off how many beauitful women are at the feast only to frick some guy up his ass later.
The funniest scene was Alexander having to kiss Hephaiston to get enough of an erection to sleep with his wife.
I really didn't remember it being this gay on my first watch.
Somebody needs to make an edit with less gay shit and Anthony Hopkins' part cut out if possible.
Yeah, he's a great actor but his part was unnecessary and boring.
it's not a greek party without a twink getting buttraped
>alexander was a wimpy, stupid crybaby homosexual
What a garbage movie.
yes he was very emotional a a bit of a petulant child IRL but the greeks considered it a sign of a good leader/warrior and something people would call "manly tears" today probably
When his father fought against Thebes, legend has it that after he won and toured the battlefield, he wept at the sight of the mangled bodies of the enemy special forces, brats no more than fourteen or fifteen years old and Philip II was more psychotic than Val Kilmer during the filming of Batman Forever in 1995.
The Theban sacred band weren't kids, they were adult men in their prime. Philip likely wept due to having gotten to know members of it during his time as a hostage in Thebes.
>killing the men you respected, loved and looked up to as a youth
Kino.
The source I once read stated that they were special forces of boys trained to operate in pairs.
I'm not an expert so I'll simplify it. Greek cities started having a small group of dedicated full-time soldiers that were always ready for combat. Almost all cities relied on the citizens to fight as hoplites but it took time for them to assemble and get ready.
Thebes sacred band was the most famous and consisted of 150 pairs of adult men based on the traditional Greek custom of an older man becoming a teacher, buddy and maybe no homosexual haha it's not gay if our balls don't touch partner to a slightly younger man.
They were special forces in the sense army soldiers are elite compared to national guardsmen. Being able to perform drills and manoeuvres while the regular citizens could only march forwards in a group.
>no homosexual haha it's not gay if our balls don't touch
Let's not kid ourselves. The Spartans had customs that would make Thebans blush.
Not really.
Xenophon is probably the best source we have on the Spartans, and he says it was forbidden.
And we all know how selective Xenophon can be with information, Helenica is a great example.
>OH N-
Olive breaking
Yeah... Stone had to work some Greek rape into the story I guess. Was that scene in the theatrical release, or just the Stone cut? I guess it does give a good motive to kill King Kilmer.
Was this the movie where he fricked that indian twink dancer?
He fricked a lot of things.
Got a problem with that, chud?
Yes Alexander did have a relationship with a Persian court eunuch IRL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagoas_(courtier)
It triggered a lot of Greeks at the time because they worried he was being subverted by foreign influence. Modern greeks go nuts if you bring him up cuz muh cultural subversion by gays
>Bagoas won a dancing contest after the Macedonian crossing of the Gedrosian Desert. The Macedonian troops, with whom Bagoas was very popular, demanded that king Alexander should kiss Bagoas, and he did so.
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
wtf was wrong with greek women if homosex was this accepted?
too much hair
and that wouldn't be a problem with the men?
Greeks liked their boys smooth
alexander, the greeks, romans, etc being queers is made up bullshit perpetuated by guess what? queers.
not really, though it is perhaps over-exaggerated these days.
It was common in most of the Greek city-states to have a homosexual relationship between a ward and his teacher, most notably in Sparta, and nobility especially were keen on taking young boys as lovers. It wasn't an equal status to heterosexual/traditional marriage though, but something for them to do as fun on the side.
Lesbian relationships were frowned on though and even outlawed in Athens, and the average peasant weren't really as into it and saw it as a bit degenerate. The Romans and Etruscan's both inherited these kind of practices.
Roman Emperor commodus was literally strangled in his bath by his disgruntled gay lover/"wrestling partner"
Interestingly enough Japanese samurai had a similar system/outlook. Weird how these cultures that never interacted developed the same shit.
>It was common in most of the Greek city-states to have a homosexual relationship between a ward and his teacher,
This is a bullshit myth created by homosexualS throughout history to try and normalize their defective existence in society. Nothing more, nothing less.
>literally tons of artwork and records of it
do you have any evidence all this shit is fabricated?
give us this evidence because, just like all of ancient history, it all up to the discretion of a homosexual who wrote a book full of conjecture based on pottery illustrates nude men on it.
>please ignore the pottery that also depicts those nude men fricking each other
I weep for those of you that have been groomed, molded into accepting this degenerate alteration.
go read a book morono
I never said that I approve of homosexuality, but whether or not I approve of homosexualry doesn’t change the fact that many ancient Greeks men 100% fricked other dudes, and so did the Romans
you put what too much stock into how much people know about ancient society. thats all. you comfortably agree with being told that everyone in the past were flaming queers by the same people cant even figure basic shit like food recipes from the same periods. same people who think that romans wiped their asses with a sponge on a stick.
>le science is wrong
>I AM RIGHT
liberalism, not even once
Yo do know gaylord that anyone caught having same-sex relationships in ancient Athens lost all his citizen rights and almost became a pariah, right? You know that the word for "gay" in ancient Greek mean "he who brings great shame", right?
You do know that even nowadays people in the south embrace and kiss each other on the cheek during greetings, correct? Imagine drawing a picture and showing it to people 2000 years later claiming that was a gay thing and that their society embraced it.
dont waste your time with these morons, anon. they follow academics who string them along with baseless conjecture about how ancient society was by crayon drawings on a piece of clay.
>illiterate moron sympathizes with illiterate moron
>claiming that an illustration of a dude that has a boner while he touches another dude’s wiener isn’t gay
Wew lad
Everybody knows that it’s only gay if you don’t say “no homo” after he cums in you anon
Herodotus Histories 1.135
Plato, Phaedrus 227a
Xenophon, Memorabilia 2.6.28, Symposium 8
Athenaeus, Deipnosophistae 13:601–606
Xen. Oec. 7.5
Cohen, David (1994). Law, Sexuality, and Society: The Enforcement of Morals in Classical Athens. Cambridge University: Cambridge University Press. p. 6. ISBN 9780521466424.
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Marilyn B. Skinner, Sexuality in Greek and
might as well stop because the only way you're going to convince me is with a time machine. history is written by the victor and it sure as hell wasnt the greeks or romans. I'm sure the semitic academics that you've proudly displayed, as if the ability to copy paste wiki is anything to be proud of anyway, has nothing to gain by alternating and humiliating past aggressors and distorting cultural truth.
Herodotus Histories 1.135
Plato, Phaedrus 227a
Xenophon, Memorabilia 2.6.28, Symposium 8
Athenaeus, Deipnosophistae 13:601–606
those were written by the victors???
god you're such a moron
or a liberal troll
Aeschines Kata Timarchou ,21
Demosthenes Kata Androtionos (par. 30)
Plato Laws
Xenophon Constitution of the Lacedaimonians
Also read about Athenian laws and what the word "kinaidos" meant and what it described.
Post the exact Greek and English translation then, put it into historical and societal context and then also explain how's that enough to coin an entire civilization as pro-gay.
>pro-gay
no one said they were PRO-GAY you moronic frick
but they werent ANTI-GAY neither
>but they werent ANTI-GAY neither
They were israelite, even your infamous Athenians in your pro-gay rhetoric. Just read Plato's "Laws" and examine the Athenian laws from the era.
Now go dilate in the corner with your bf.
no they were not, you just posted ONE source
No, I've brought more than one sources. Read what the statesman and one of the ten Attic orators Aeschines said. Aeschines talked about homosexuality and the listing of all punishments for kinaidoi (those who bring great shame) in his speech "Against Timarchus".
You can go all caps and seethe gaylord. You were a pariah then, you are still a pariah now (when the actual government is pro-gay as opposed to ancient Greece) and you'll keep being a pariah forever.
still, no other source
nice try brainlet
Not him but I despise gays and I still acknowledge that Ancient Greeks did tonnes of gay shit, the two beliefs aren’t mutually exclusive
Then post that gay shit, "gayhater". And then prove how do they make the norm of a whole society and culture. And then acknowledge that, if that's even true, then Western civilization (the one that conquered the world) was based on homosexuals.
Because if Ancient Greece was some haven for gays as homosexuals like you like to say, I don't even know how would you describe modern day America or UK.
Western society might be based on Greco-Roman philosophy, but that doesn’t change the fact Greeks and Romans used to do lots of weird/disgusting/immoral shit that modern civilisation would be better off not emulating, not just the gay shit. Ancient Greek society definitely wasn’t some sort of flawless utopia, which would be abundantly clear to anyone who’s ever actually read any Greek literature like Aristophanes
You still haven't posted any of that gay shit, dick-slurper.
>weird/disgusting/immoral shit that modern civilisation would be better off not emulating
You mean all that kind of shit that modern society does, but to an 11?
i couldn't care less about your homophobic takes you midwit, you still haven't post any sources to backup your yapping about GAYS BAD
So long then gayboi. Back to plebbit.
>YT
Read a book npc homosexual. Stop projecting your modern homosexualry to ancientfricks.
Dear god your reading comprehension is terrible, I specifically said that homosexualry is one of the Greco-Roman things that modern society SHOULDN’T emulate
>post gif of muscular oiled men wrestling each other
geeez...projecting much gaylord??? you sound like a closeted homosexual too scared to accept his homosexualry
No, not the shit modern society does, but weird shit like is described in these videos
liberal troll? coming from the guy that claims everyone from ancient times was homosexual? Quite surprised that there any of us here with how much homosexual sex our ancestors had going by you and your sources.
neoliberal israelites dont believe in anything greater than themselves
they don't believe in god
they don't believe in science
they don't believe in politics
everything is a conspiracy, everything is a lie, they only trust their flawed and crippled sense of "reality"
there we are with projecting again. break through the conditioning, anon. break through the grooming and nasties that have tarnished your mind and thr lesions will heal, I promise.
yeah yeah, surely i will follow the sound and rational advice of a neoliberal israelite,
go watch zeitgeist for the 1000th time
What about other historic warrior cultures like the Samurai? Are you denying that they weren’t infamous for their love of buttfricking boys too?
shifting goal posts? I guess that's case closed on these sodomites. My work here is done.
>My work here is done.
of course you're done gay, you got absolutely BTFO
You’ve already been asked about the Samurai hours earlier, you just haven’t answered the question
>alexander the great thread
>but samurais tho
You're like a lost child wondering into the conversation.
I don't give a frick what a bunch of pro-homosexual "scholars" have to say. And it's certain that you haven't even read half of the crap that you copy-pasted from your "Greeks were homosexuals" folder.
All I know and I'm willing to hear is what these people themselves said about it. What Aeschines, Demosthenes, Plato, Xenophon, Plutarch, and others, as well as their laws and language themselves said about this condition.
You have to be some butthurt israelite, Turk and/or homosexual to be so hellbent on picturing a whole ancient society as gaylovers against all logic and evidence. Especially when the irony is that upon this society and the Roman one did the westerners built their civilizations. So by bringing them down like that, you bring the whole Western civilization down.
That's why you're probably some sandBlack person.
Both Plato and Xenophon say in their versions of Symposium that Socrates and Alcibiades were in a romantic relationship together tho
>That's why you're probably some sandBlack person.
or you know a well rounded person with a life and not a complete loser with zero achievements desperately defending the honor of "muh ancestors" (very likely a rootless ,historyless amerimutt) to cope about his failures
holy shit, let me grab my popcorn. the projectors are fired up and running.
>p-projecting
you are.
ok lol
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Gayporn exists in 2022, so all men in 2022 are gay
-Future ((historians))
Gayporn is equivalent to 500 bc pottery, so we should ban gays from history
- Cinemaphile moron
god damn anon you showed all historians, archeologists and ancient cultures investigators around the world that they are wrong. YOU alone settled the science. NICE JOB moron
>give us this evidence
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Symposium_(Plato)
the name of a collection of texts that surely prove your gay-wash but surely translated 100% correctly without anything added or subtracted.
ah yes, those old texts were surely gay washed by XIX century historians. How could we forget how progressive the XIX century society was?
moron
The original Greek text is there moron, you can just put it into Google-translate or some other translation bot if you want, not to mention most of those English translations are from loooong before homosexuality was accepted in the anglophone world
Stop it already, your illiteracy is showing
You realise that Sappho has been famous for centuries, because of all the poetry she wrote about how much she loved fricking other women right?
The graffiti in Pompeii that talks about Roman dudes fricking other dudes still exists anon. You can go to Italy and read it yourself if you want proof, and can understand Latin (which I highly doubt that you can)
Such bullshit, it's like saying modern tradesman are gay with their apprentices. You can love your fellow man your fellow citizen of the city and solder in arms and not be a homosexual.
>It was common in most of the Greek city-states to have a homosexual relationship between a ward and his teacher, most notably in Sparta, and nobility especially were keen on taking young boys as lovers
False.
>because I said so
ok, scared closeted homosexual detected, go suck a dick and get over with it
>source: my blog
nice
Oh no not a reasonable view of ancient society! My "historian" stumbling upon the ancient equivalent of a homosexual's tumblr page and proclaiming that Greeks were institutionally gay because they happened to exist at the same time is much better!
>reasonable
>a blog
ok
>sources literally after each quote
I know being a moron is a lot of work but please.
Weird that he’d use Plutarch as a source when Plutarch also wrote about how Alexander was lovers with
Hephaestion and Bagoas
Well considering he lived hundreds of years after Alexander died and his only sources were ancedotal more or less, it wouldn't blow my mind if some slander towards Alexander made it in their as well.
>homosexualry on art, imagine that, it's not like homosexuals are ever "artists" or anything....
Pathetic.
Everything is a israeli conspiracy, and the fantasy your schizo mind has made up is the correct version of history, because you feel it's true.
take your cry baby /misc/ strawman and shove it up your ass and cope because your gay-wash of ancient history got called out.
>gay-wash of ancient history
>no evidence, just because i said so
kek what a moron
>good costumes and props
>actual historical formations
>they even got elephants
We will never see anything like it again.
>We will never see anything like it again.
Don't cry that it's gone, cry that it happened.
greatest battle in film history
The Indian battle was also nice.
Too bad it didn't include the river used in the real battle.
The battle it was based on was a pushover for the Macedonians.
Oliver Stone felt a need to turn it into 'Nam
He wasn't keen on yet another battle taking place on a desert plane (next to a river). He decided to use a jungle environment to spice things up and show India as more exotic. Not historically accurate but hey, it's not the worst inaccuracy Hollywood has put in a movie.
At least we can probably count on another cut before Stone dies.
Holy shit is it morbin time?
shame about the poorly structured plot, it might have been kino
>go through all that effort
>colin farrel as alexander
lol
>Indians didn't have towers
>Infantry would be further away from them and certainly not JUMP of them
>Most boring battle of the film
We were so close
The towers were due to safety reasons. I thought the battle was exciting though it definitely could have been longer.
Daily reminder that extremely militarized cultures develop a strong homosexual culture.
Some people just take the concept of camraderie a little too far
>extremely militarized cultures develop a strong homosexual culture.
Just the opposite, dickhead. Militarized cultures STEAL YOUR PUSSY because they can. You probably woulnd't know about it, because you sound like another pathetic wiener sucking homosexual.
I don't have a pussy, I have a penis. And some people take mentoring too far, you know that.
>some people
Yea, homosexuals. The same homosexuals that will literally get thrown off buildings in some cultures. I was in a "heavily militarized culture", and we hated homosexuals, and would not tolerate that shit. They're fricking defects and should be culled from society.
I am glad you served under a chain of command with integrity.
If you think that’s true then you’ve clearly never read a history book once in your entire life anon, basically every militarised warrior-culture in history has been hella gay, or at least hella sexually opportunistic
Xenophon was an actual warrior, and not some limp wristed college professor. He never mentions condoning homosexualry, but just the opposite. In Spartan literature concerning Lycurgis, they make mock homosexuals, and refer to Athenians as homosexuals and women.
The only thing "hella gay", is you. homosexual.
[citation needed]
Is there a single historian on earth that disputes the fact that warrior cultures like the Spartans and the Samurai were queerer than a $3 bill?
You're a israelite?
No, nor am I a gay, but I could be a rabbi wearing a rainbow-flag yarmulke and it wouldn’t make warrior cultures like the Spartans and the Samurai any less queer
>oy vey I'm not a joo, honest!
Yet your spelling of yamaka is suspicious?
The irony here is that Alexander apparently said that his Israelite soldiers were some of the best in his entire army, not to mention the fact that the Book of Maccabees in the Bible is specifically about how much the israelites fricking hated the Greeks
You're a israelite ?
The ancient israelites were quite a varied people, some more secular and open to Greek culture while others were extremist conservatives, essentially the ISIS of the day.
The Persians, Egyptians and Macedonians all used israeli mercenaries since they were good fighters and could be settled in areas where the natives weren't too keen of their overlords. We must also consider the inherent bias in the Maccabees since it was written to glorify and praise the Hasmonean dynasty while shittalking theie rivals and enemies. israeli ISIS won, that's why modern Judaism is so racist towards gentiles.
To be fair, the Bible in general was mostly written by ultra-xenophobic israeli nationalists, not just Maccabees. It’s kinda a self-fulfilling prophecy that the xenophobe israelites eventually won tho, since non-xenophobic israelites eventually assimilated into gentile society, intermarried with non-Jews, and eventually ceased to be israelites at all
Agreed.
is there anyone the Israelites didn't hate?
Like 50% of the Bible is just the israelites talking about how much they absolutely despise every other ethnic group that they encounter, it’s pretty jarring to see it when you read the Bible for the first time
Xenophon, you dumb homosexual.
>hella gay
>hella sexually
dont you have your own board for being a homosexual?
>Source: unnamed history books from my gender studies class
lol
The fact that the Spartans were a bunch of gays was already accepted by historians long before homosexuality had mainstream acceptance tho
Bullshit, Satan. You're the pathetic homosexual.
Do you know why homosexuals aren't embraced by any military forces worth a shit throughout recorded history? Aside from the fact they're disgusting defects, but the biggest issue is that sexual relationships destroy unit cohesion. They create favoritism, jealousies, and conflict in units that will be placed under stress due to combat. NO commander wants that shit. Unit cohesion means you fight as a family of brothers against a common foe, and sexual relationships destroy that cohesion.
Same thing with b***hes.
>favoritism, jealousies, and conflict
You can get that from other sources too.
You will never be a soldier
Too late for that, fricker. BTDT.
Are those legitimately the worst hair extensions in Hollywood history?
>alexander biopic
>the most discussed anecdotal moment that blurs between legend and reality in history does not appear in the film
Why?
>dude that jerk offs in public, is homeless, throws cum at people and makes fun of other philosophers
How do you even fit that in?
>not Alexander's campaign in Bactria/Afghanistan
>>the most discussed anecdotal moment that blurs between legend and reality
#1 Him weeping because there were no more worlds to conquer.
#2: Him cutting the Gordian knot.
#3 Him diving underwater in a big bell.
#4 Him talking to a man who lived in a barrel.
>"I can't wait to meet the legendary old man in the barrel!"
Kino.
>#1 Him weeping because there were no more worlds to conquer.
This was literally made up for Die Hard you pleb lmao
The whole reason people think Alexander the Great was gay is because of Diogenes flaming him and saying he was ruled by Hephaestion’s thighs.
His relationship with the eunuch Bagoas is a big factor in why people know that he was a gay anon
gordian knot?
>marching your veteran army through a wasteland to punish them for that one time they dared to oppose you launching further campaigns in bumfrick nowhere against Indians
kek what a fricking pathetic seething b***h
>goes to try and invade pooinloos instead of the rest of the med
what the FRICK was his problem?
Jungle fever
It must have been a mystical experience to have even been in the Ganges.
brown twinks
He went east instead of north and west
so that we could give him a reality check and also buckbreak him and make larping incels seethe millennias later
Real answer: To reach the edge of the world per ancient Greek notions. For a guy that was raised as a son of Zeus, I guess nothing was truly impossible.
I know it's complete fantasy tier and super far-fetched, but I've always enjoyed the thought of Alexander ending up drinking tea with Chinese officials somewhere in southwestern China.
that is kinda strange. usually you would want your country of origin to be at the center of your empire not at the very edge.
but I guess it was more about conquering the persian empire at first.
a) he was there b) it was there c) they didn't know how big it was
it´s a running theme
Gladiator is the only early 00s historical epic to get a 4k blu ray so far. Criminal.
Yet. Riddley's Napoleon is going to get one too.
Oh wow, watching Josephine be a bawd in 4k
She was a tragic person and had to cuck tyrannical napoleon
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Please tell me about the barrel man
The old man in the barrel was the first based man in recorded history. He lived and died on his own terms.
He counterfeit coins. He was a teacher and a slave. He never attached himself to material goods or public recognition. He challenged philosophers and defined kings inherently indistinguishable from those who served them. He spat in the face of oligarchs. He loved dogs.
He was a fricking bum.
I watched the director's cut of pic related for the first time the other day. Talk about KINO.
If you've seen 300 there's no need to watch this.
It's based, definitely Petersen's second best film. I used to rewatch the long cuts of KoH, Troy and Alexander over and over.
> GOOD CRATERUS...
Calling someone “good [insert name here] is ridiculously common in Ancient Greek and Roman writing, and I assume they were of that. Characters call each other “good X” in Spartacus a lot too
>make movie about Alexander the Great
>focus 90% of the movie on gay sex
Imagine the harems
Was Alex actually assassinated bros?
I personally doubt it, primarily because nobody at the time would have had access to poisons that would have caused the symptoms that he had when he was dying
yea. he degenerated alot last few years it was for the best
No, it's an ancient conspiracy theory that only exists because a historian pointed out how stupid it was
He was an alcoholic who was frequently black out drunk before noon. It's surprising he didn't die younger.
according to Peter Green....yes
1. Hannibal Barca
2. Subotai
3. Alexander the Great
4. Napoleon Bonaparte
5. Khalid Ibn al-Walid
6. Julius Caesar
7. Ulysses Grant
8. Erwin Rommel
9. Cyrus the Great
10. Attila the Hun
it's disgusting how infused with homo-lust these arm-chair historians are. must be apart of the gay lobby with how many descended on the opinion that not everyone was a flaming queer in 400 bc
You have one minute to name Alexander's generals without looking them up.
These might be trolls, but there are still half-wit morons who, based upon Hollyisraelite or nationalist tendencies, propgandate that shit. And some of these are the same ones who claim that science can serve foreign interests and agendas and yet that doesn't extend to historians somehow.
Still, I'd like to have A SINGLE THREAD about antiquity without talking about butt sex
I mean, I know it's hot butt come on!
Sorry but according to today's historians, every important person in history was gay.
Homosexuality and buttfricking was always the norm, didn't you know? Historians say so, therefore LGBT+ people were always more or less the norm. So they are not unnatural freaks.
Winning!
>try to find information about what the Macedonians are chanting at Gagaumela
>just Gayreek after Gayreek seething that Oliver Stone portrayed Alexander as bisexual
Why are the rape baby descendants of the gayest gays in antiquity so angry about the portrayal of a Macedonian king that most Greeks at the time did not view as Greek and hated? I hate Greeks, gay crypto-Turks.
The ones living on Turkey are not Turks though. They are some bastard mix of Greeks and Middle Easterners with little Turkish blood. Especially those living near the Aegean. We call those Roaches.
seleucus, ptolemy and ughhhh ... that one in pergamnon forgot his name
Western civilisation is Christian, pagan values did not impact our morality.
>Christian
>a literal israelite larping as the son of god is the foundation of western civilization
it checks out
This movie is absolutely unwatchable. I attempted the three-hour re-edit that was on netflix and made it as far as Colin and that one b***h's bizarre mating ritual and called it quits. The battle scenes suck. The acting is horrendous. And I'm mad this movie basically killed historical epics.
Cast him.
Liam Neeson?
cant have anything nice. whole thread is about gay shit they literally cant help but bring it up
Ancient Greece was extremely homosexual
>BUT YOU DREAM /QA/
>Your simplicity long ended when you raided /lgbt/ with troonjaks and you thickened your holdings with 'jaks and gems...
Historians (gatekept by israelites and masons) like to exaggerate how gay the past is because they're subversive and demonstrably serve satan
Great casting choice and better make-up
Still a better Alexander than Fate