Why did they frick his character so much in the show?
>comic butcher
sadistic ex-soldier playing 5D backgammon to kill homelander and all supes
>show butcher
autistic lunatic who got cucked and raises his wifes son
Butcher
Why did they frick his character so much in the show?
>comic butcher
sadistic ex-soldier playing 5D backgammon to kill homelander and all supes
>show butcher
autistic lunatic who got cucked and raises his wifes son
you could say they butchered him
you could say the butchered the whole plot.
CARLOS
>Why can't characters be sadistic and OP like MEEEEEEEE
Fricking hell, Ennis, get a grip.
>Every edgy character must be toned down and easier to process for general audiences. You can't have a morally questionable character REEEEEEE
Based
Cringe
it's not such a hugie to me
They didnt frick the character, they made him likable because is a tv show that needs people to not get tired of him, is the same they did with homelander and pretty much every character that isnt storefront, and even then they tried to make her not really that racist or nasty. Is a product by Amazon and they want you to keep buying it, is not about what is the best for the story or the characters, is not art, every change is intended to make the show more appealing and to catch back a captive audience that has to wait over one year between seasons
>catch back a captive audience
Coud you be any more moronic? Do you even understand what you're typing?
"Likable" does not equal "good character writing". And arguably speaking, comic Butcher was more "likeable" than tv show Butcher because comic Butcher was interesting and understandable.
Comic Butcher also had that "teasing older brother" kind of charisma so technically he actually is likable.
Show Butcher is just bland.
No shit
They had to make Butcher likable to the norimes but yeah they fricked his character hard. They should have kept him fricking his cia handler
You could say they really gave him a spanking
because Ennis writes the worst edgelord shit imaginable and literally any change would and should be welcome
Comic Butcher is a far better character than the TV version. It's not even close.
You're already getting paid Garth you don't need to come here and try to convince me to read your comics
Don't read the comics, as they aren't good.
But what I said stands, Eric.
He's a pretty solid character stuck in a shitty comic.
I read a lot of comics, and I don't like too many characters, but goddamn was he wasted on The Boys.
Butcher was part of the problem. But the boys has a few good moments but most of it is shit. Just the trashiest shit you can read because ennis thinks he's clever and funny about something people used to make fun of in the 50s.
>makes an argument
>cites no examples, just proceeds to seethe
Yes, a very impartial take on the comic's quality.
>Having to go back instead of remembering my emotions
What is this college? I don't give a shit what you think. I just remember what I didn't like.
>literally admits to using his emotions as an argument
>"What is this college?"
Apparently, since, to you: Feelings > Facts
That's literally all literature is. Good and Bad writing is subjective when you get past grammar.
You're going really far out of your way to validate a non-argument, and to prove that Cinemaphile really does just mindlessly hate anything Ennis.
I mean the original comic is shit and Butcher is a shitty self insert for a shitty person so I say good on them for finding a diamond in this tub of shit.
They just continued the theme of taking the garbage Ennis writes and making it tolerable
They changed him from the stealth main antagonist to the protagonist.
Much less interesting than having Hughie be the protagonist, and having to deal with the fact that his big brother from another mother is a bad guy that cannot be redeemed.
Butcher is a terrible fricking character in the comics, he's literally just Ennis' cool antihero standin.
Except for all those heartwarming and human moments, sure.
He has like two the rest of the time he's an obnoxious self-insert who wins because he's just that op for no reason.
>obnoxious self-insert
that's subjective.
>who wins because he's just that op for no reason
examples?
That Russia arc near the start of the comic. He gets the honor of killing like a hundred Supers and nothing happens to him over it.
>He gets the honor of killing like a hundred Supers and nothing happens to him over it.
That's not:
>because he's just that op for no reason.
Christ, you can't even keep your criticisms straight for two posts in a row.
Those are extremely rare and mostly confined to Butcher, Baker, Candlestick Maker and the very last bit of the comic.
What about when Hughie kills zombie Blarney wiener? Or when he kills Malchemical and decides not to off Super Duper because Hughie begs him not to?
No, there's a lot of little moments. Another time he goes on quite the romantic monologue.
Comic Butcher basically did everything on his own, making all other characters useless. They had to nerf him somehow.
It's honestly an upgrade compare to how they are portrayed in the comics.
>butcher is a cuck who compromises on his hatred of supes
>hughie isn't the moral compass of the group
>the dynamic between butcher and hughie from the comics is impossible now, because of these and other changes
I fricking hate Stormfront, the way que talks, the way she looks, all the feminist shit... She's SO annoying.
It just annoys me that they won't let a Nazi be an actual bigot in a show where they show a man's urethra and make a wiener vore joke.
to make something with a bit of nuance
They literally removed the nuance from his character.
Love how people who clearly skimmed/flat-out didn't read The Boys tend to chime in on these conversations.
Becca should have stayed dead like in the comic instead of making Butcher a cuck
We live in an age where
>"muh subversions"
is the pinnacle of good writing.
Becca being alive and raising Homelander’s kid was truly shit, the butcher, baker, candlestick maker story was fine on Butcher and Becca’s relationship and how her death affected Butcher and his motivation, even if her vengeance was kinda underwhelming
True
I knew I wouldn't like the show when they altered it. Not having Butcher find and read her journal sucks all the air out of his revenge.
I liked the comic but imo the revenge wasn’t good, would’ve prefered a 1v1 showdown against Black Noir rather than Homelander fricking him up and the military shooting him
>I liked the comic but imo the revenge wasn’t good, would’ve prefered a 1v1 showdown against Black Noir rather than Homelander fricking him up and the military shooting him
That's sort of the whole point. Butcher's spent this whole time trying to kill the man who raped his wife, and not only was he after the wrong man, but he could only kill him after the military turned him to swiss cheese.
I think it's fitting how unsatisfying the revenge is for Butcher, because it was never going to satisfy him. The void from his loss was always going to remain; his mission was a hollow means of lashing out at the world for what it did to him.
It sets the tone for Butcher's next actions.
I mean, i guess you’re kinda right, it was why Becca didn’t tell him about the rape and even Butcher says that it wasn’t what Becca would’ve wanted
He's not a bad character, but the comic version is leagues better. He actually gets to brutalize more than one supe per arc, for starters. And somehow show Butcher is way meaner towards Hughie, which I really don't get.
>And somehow show Butcher is way meaner towards Hughie, which I really don't get.
They basically dropped the
>rough n mean big brother, innocent and moral lil brother
dynamic between them.
I'm seriously baffled that people are still claiming the show is better than the comics.
That's because show Hughie actually has self-respect.
I can't believe he stole hughie's look
Comic was garbage.
>butcher
better than in the comics
>Noir
much much better than in the comics.
cope more.
Who are you quoting?
>newbie thinks all greentexts are quotes
Underage
You take a comic from a fricking edgy creator who wanted to shit on Marvel and DC comics in the mid to late 00s and hand it to a bunch of terminally online Hollywood writers
That’s why Crossed will never be adapted in any other media
So i'm just reading the comics, does Karl Urban do a Michael Caine voice?
Both are pretty lame characters, and I'm OK that they didn't make him into another Ennis-style edgy unstoppable antihero.