>The following artists have been removed from the Cadence representation list in the last month, most in the last few days; >Roge Antonio, Mahmud Asrar, Paul Azaceta, Michele Bandini, Andy Belanger, Ryan Browne, Letizia Cadonici, Alessandro Cappuccio, Elena Casagrande, Yildiray Cinar, Becky Cloonan, Wes Craig, Tyler Crook, Dani, Vanesa R. Del Rey, Werther Dell Edera, Daniele Di Nicuolo, Ray Fawkes, Nathan Fox, Jenny Frison, Antonio Fuso, Gavin Guidry, Gabriel Hardman, Mike Hawthorne, Erica Henderson, Faith Erin Hicks, Víctor Ibáñez, Jeff Lemire, Emi Lenox, Leomacs, Jesse Lonergan, Tula Lotay, David Marquez, Brent Schoonover, Jorge Molina, Danielle Otrakji, Richard Pace, John J. Pearson, Sara Pichelli, Luca Pizzari, Giorgio Pontrelli, Emma Rios, Marco Rudy, Alison Sampson, Mateus Santolouco, Valerio Schiti, Declan Shalvey, Greg Smallwood, James Stokoe, Jill Thompson, Zoe Thorogood, Liana Kangas, Luana Vecchio, Paolo Villanelli, Dave Wachter, Mike Norton, Dustin Weaver, Kelly Williams, Caitlin Yarsky, Pia Guerra, David Messina, Ariela Kristantina, Sam Wolfe Connelly, Garry Brown, Aaron Campbell, Laurence Campbell, Francesco Manna, Jul Maroh, Justin Mason, Leila Leiz, Joelle Jones, Cory Smith, Breno Tamura, Keyla Valerio, Gabriel Hernández Walta, Caspar Wijngaard, Jeff Zornow and Marley Zarcone.
Yes wienersuckef I can go to Rich the b***h’s site or that ugly c**t’s comics beat site. I’d like them to spill the beans those losers don’t have or can’t post.
I haven’t heard of most of these people and can’t believe anyone would buy any of their work. the comics industry feels like such a front. Like none of it is actually a real, viable business.
>Richard pace
Didn’t that scumbag run a crowdfunding campaign and then never fulfilled the orders?
and have no fricking clue about comic artists or anything that has to do with the industry beyond clickbait articles trying to sell $40 kickstarter comics by aging gen Xers who hire brazillians to draw their comics. There's maybe 4 people here who have actually gotten close enough in the industry to have an ear as to what's going on.
>and have no fricking clue about comic artists
You have ten minutes to name a project from every single person on that list. Time limit starting the second I post this to prove you can do it without google.
>and have no fricking clue about comic artists
You have ten minutes to name a project from every single person on that list. Time limit starting the second I post this to prove you can do it without google.
30 minutes later, no list. Almost like anon was acting holier than thou while being the same.
Anon was acting like pointing out most of these people are literal who’s made someone moronic. Then disappeared when asked to prove they’re familiar with most of them.
>even I only know some of them
So then you should be offended by anons suggestion as well.
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I don’t get offended by nonsense.
Besides anon is right, plenty of people in that list are prominent names or multiple awards recipients. Just because you don’t know them doesn’t make them literal whos.
3 months ago
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>I only know some of them
Quickly became >theyre prominent
You feel like that same anon samegayging with an alternate tact at this point
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t have absolute knowledge.
The ones I know are prominent, I’m gonna assume some of those I don’t know are prominent too.
Again, just because you yourself (or I) don’t know them doesn’t mean they’re literal whos.
There really is no need to get this bent out of shape yknow
3 months ago
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>t. one of the literal who’s SEETHING at being called a nobody
Teehee
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t get this at all. If those people are literal whos, who in comics isn’t? Todd McFarlane? I haven’t read a comic in ten years but I recognize half those names. I watch Tyler Crook paint on YouTube. He’s the so yest motherfricker alive but I enjoy his videos.
I haven’t heard of most of these people and can’t believe anyone would buy any of their work. the comics industry feels like such a front. Like none of it is actually a real, viable business.
>Richard pace
Didn’t that scumbag run a crowdfunding campaign and then never fulfilled the orders?
>the comics industry feels like such a front. Like none of it is actually a real, viable business.
It's not that's why comics is fricking dying. Not sure why some illustration agency is dropping all its clients all of a sudden factors into that though.
Also why is this thread autists trying to derail whatever actual story there is here with stupid dick measuring about who is or isn't a "literally who"?
>Not sure why some illustration agency is dropping all its clients all of a sudden factors into that though
Seems to be the opposite so far as I’m gleaning. Seems there was some fricky wucky with the payments and deliveries. I know so,e of these homosexuals lurk here but they’re all being pretty quiet.
Getting some kind of government funding from Blackrock and ESG scores, right? Marvel and DC are in no way sustainable on their own. They would’ve been bankrupt over a decade ago without them.
As for these little mysterious companies, maybe money laundering? How can one comic company employ all those “comic artists” yet nobody has heard or bought from them?
No need to reply to genuine schizophrenics like that. Just ignore them. Do you spend time arguing with homeless men talking about the rapture? That’s what “le blackrock” posters are, homeless men ranting and raving.
So from what I’ve seen there’s rumors of skimming off the top, as well as issues with delivering the art clients paid for. Most people who defected say that they’ll manage the unfulfilled orders as best they can
This seems to be what is being implied between the lines with what some of the artists have been saying. Here's a quote from comic artist Yildray Cinar posted on facebook and referred in a comicsbeat article: >I am no longer represented by Cadence Comic Art. Inquiries regarding any unfulfilled orders should be directed to Cadence, as the artists lack involvement in their sales and fulfillment.
>organized collectively to break a contract
That would be legally dubious.
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Anonymous
I don’t know. I’d imagine they at least talked and decided what the proper wording in public would be
3 months ago
Anonymous
That’s moronic. There is no reason to do that.
I don’t get this at all. If those people are literal whos, who in comics isn’t? Todd McFarlane? I haven’t read a comic in ten years but I recognize half those names. I watch Tyler Crook paint on YouTube. He’s the so yest motherfricker alive but I enjoy his videos.
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Name one non-nobody in comics
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I didn’t even say everyone listed was a nobody. How soft are you?
Am I supposed to apologize for not knowing who the funk Paul Azaceta, Andy Belanger, Ryan Browne, Letizia Cadonici, Tyler Crook, Vanesa R. Del Rey, Werther Dell Edera, Daniele Di Nicuolo, Ray Fawkes, Nathan Fox, Jenny Frison, Antonio Fuso, Gavin Guidry, Gabriel Hardman, Faith Erin Hicks, Emi Lenox, Leomacs, Jesse Lonergan, Brent Schoonover, Danielle Otrakji, Richard Pace, John J. Pearson, Luca Pizzari, Giorgio Pontrelli, Emma Rios, Marco Rudy, Alison Sampson, Mateus Santolouco, Liana Kangas, Luana Vecchio, Paolo Villanelli, Dave Wachter, Mike Norton, Dustin Weaver, Kelly Williams, Pia Guerra, Ariela Kristantina, Sam Wolfe Connelly, Garry Brown, Aaron Campbell, Laurence Campbell, Francesco Manna, Jul Maroh, Justin Mason, Leila Leiz, Cory Smith, Breno Tamura, Keyla Valerio, Jeff Zornow and Marley Zarcone are? Sorry, but they’re literally whos. I don’t make the rules.
I read plenty of comics, notice that isn’t the entire list. I want you to prove you know every single one of them, if you can’t look at their name and immediately name a comic you are no better.
2 minutes, type fast otherwise we’ll know you googled some. Why are you on Cinemaphile if you can’t name a comic by the people you’re totally familiar with anon? Prove you’re better than me.
At this point you may as well wait until an official story comes out. Usually if this many people aren't saying anything more than boilerplate then that means lawyers are involved. The guy demanding some insider just magically show up and spill the beans is just being a drama baby who can't read between the lines.
Every BC comics article is literally just >quirky commentary on whatever is happening in the latest capeshit run >sketchy comics-adjacent techbro scams (DSTLRY) >copy-pasted press releases for webtoon/manga publishers Rich obviously does not give a frick about >perpetual seething over whatever Chuck Dixon or Mark Millar are up to any given week
It’s genuinely insane how pathetic they’ve become. It was always a farce run by a moron but it’s been deplorably bad for about a decade. Running everyone off of the site with comment moderation certainly can’t have helped their traffic.
A certain subset of groyper elon fanboy type gentlemen on this board will always side with management over talent, we see it time and time again. They LARP as ol' bootstraps boomers and imagine themselves the future business magnates.
Is there some legal reason that most/all of them are posting nearly the same exact wording? Like it's not enough to quit, but they also have to specifically distance themselves in that language to avoid liability?
Because they’re mostly barely functioning morons that do this
groupchat or just talk among themselves that probably decided this was the best legalese to explain the situation.
imagining it’s some way to “show solidarity” with each other when it really just comes off as autism. Also seems like a way to bully those who aren’t leaving into explaining why as they also had rich the little b***h list those who haven’t expressed their departure.
A bunch of nobody artists leaving an art dealer because they were skimming payments and not delivering the orders it seems like. But one of them sperged out ITT at the suggestion they’re a nobody.
I recognize a few of the names but I'm confused as to why work for hire freelancers have representation. Is this agency strictly for commissions or something? Apologies for being an ignorant homosexual.
Imagine having a business that relies on what remains of the US Postal Service not destroying fragile items and placing your trust in LaTrina to find the right address while she’s yammering into her phone
They could have, and should have, used a trusted third party who won’t engage in hand offs. Or ship with hard plastic inside the cardboard like slabs for comics. This raises the price however and most commissioned art is overpriced as it is. Beside the fact that they seem like they were dirtbag schemers and didn’t care about the art or customer experience.
That being said, Comic Artists don’t seem realize that paintings from similarly well-known artists cost anywhere from 1200-1500 and up the more famous they are. charging 500-600 let alone more for uncolored linework of characters that show up in comics weekly and have millions of fan art pieces online that look just as good is frankly absurd.
for many, the pieces (and their names) simply aren’t worth enough for them to have an art dealer, in all honesty. This is why many people have a significant other or kid (if they’re older) run that stuff like a family business. After the dealers cut you end up getting less than you would if you just took on the stress and effort of shipping them yourself.
SPILLLLLLL YER BEANNNZZZ
>The following artists have been removed from the Cadence representation list in the last month, most in the last few days;
>Roge Antonio, Mahmud Asrar, Paul Azaceta, Michele Bandini, Andy Belanger, Ryan Browne, Letizia Cadonici, Alessandro Cappuccio, Elena Casagrande, Yildiray Cinar, Becky Cloonan, Wes Craig, Tyler Crook, Dani, Vanesa R. Del Rey, Werther Dell Edera, Daniele Di Nicuolo, Ray Fawkes, Nathan Fox, Jenny Frison, Antonio Fuso, Gavin Guidry, Gabriel Hardman, Mike Hawthorne, Erica Henderson, Faith Erin Hicks, Víctor Ibáñez, Jeff Lemire, Emi Lenox, Leomacs, Jesse Lonergan, Tula Lotay, David Marquez, Brent Schoonover, Jorge Molina, Danielle Otrakji, Richard Pace, John J. Pearson, Sara Pichelli, Luca Pizzari, Giorgio Pontrelli, Emma Rios, Marco Rudy, Alison Sampson, Mateus Santolouco, Valerio Schiti, Declan Shalvey, Greg Smallwood, James Stokoe, Jill Thompson, Zoe Thorogood, Liana Kangas, Luana Vecchio, Paolo Villanelli, Dave Wachter, Mike Norton, Dustin Weaver, Kelly Williams, Caitlin Yarsky, Pia Guerra, David Messina, Ariela Kristantina, Sam Wolfe Connelly, Garry Brown, Aaron Campbell, Laurence Campbell, Francesco Manna, Jul Maroh, Justin Mason, Leila Leiz, Joelle Jones, Cory Smith, Breno Tamura, Keyla Valerio, Gabriel Hernández Walta, Caspar Wijngaard, Jeff Zornow and Marley Zarcone.
Yes wienersuckef I can go to Rich the b***h’s site or that ugly c**t’s comics beat site. I’d like them to spill the beans those losers don’t have or can’t post.
most people here are like
and have no fricking clue about comic artists or anything that has to do with the industry beyond clickbait articles trying to sell $40 kickstarter comics by aging gen Xers who hire brazillians to draw their comics. There's maybe 4 people here who have actually gotten close enough in the industry to have an ear as to what's going on.
>and have no fricking clue about comic artists
You have ten minutes to name a project from every single person on that list. Time limit starting the second I post this to prove you can do it without google.
30 minutes later, no list. Almost like anon was acting holier than thou while being the same.
Dude it was an insane thing to ask of anyone. Besides who gives a frick?
Even I only know some of them.
Anon was acting like pointing out most of these people are literal who’s made someone moronic. Then disappeared when asked to prove they’re familiar with most of them.
>even I only know some of them
So then you should be offended by anons suggestion as well.
I don’t get offended by nonsense.
Besides anon is right, plenty of people in that list are prominent names or multiple awards recipients. Just because you don’t know them doesn’t make them literal whos.
>I only know some of them
Quickly became
>theyre prominent
You feel like that same anon samegayging with an alternate tact at this point
I don’t have absolute knowledge.
The ones I know are prominent, I’m gonna assume some of those I don’t know are prominent too.
Again, just because you yourself (or I) don’t know them doesn’t mean they’re literal whos.
There really is no need to get this bent out of shape yknow
>t. one of the literal who’s SEETHING at being called a nobody
Teehee
I don’t get this at all. If those people are literal whos, who in comics isn’t? Todd McFarlane? I haven’t read a comic in ten years but I recognize half those names. I watch Tyler Crook paint on YouTube. He’s the so yest motherfricker alive but I enjoy his videos.
I haven’t heard of most of these people and can’t believe anyone would buy any of their work. the comics industry feels like such a front. Like none of it is actually a real, viable business.
>Richard pace
Didn’t that scumbag run a crowdfunding campaign and then never fulfilled the orders?
>the comics industry feels like such a front. Like none of it is actually a real, viable business.
It's not that's why comics is fricking dying. Not sure why some illustration agency is dropping all its clients all of a sudden factors into that though.
Also why is this thread autists trying to derail whatever actual story there is here with stupid dick measuring about who is or isn't a "literally who"?
>Not sure why some illustration agency is dropping all its clients all of a sudden factors into that though
Seems to be the opposite so far as I’m gleaning. Seems there was some fricky wucky with the payments and deliveries. I know so,e of these homosexuals lurk here but they’re all being pretty quiet.
Getting some kind of government funding from Blackrock and ESG scores, right? Marvel and DC are in no way sustainable on their own. They would’ve been bankrupt over a decade ago without them.
As for these little mysterious companies, maybe money laundering? How can one comic company employ all those “comic artists” yet nobody has heard or bought from them?
They don't employ the artists, you spastic. It's just an art gallery, they sell original art on consignment.
No need to reply to genuine schizophrenics like that. Just ignore them. Do you spend time arguing with homeless men talking about the rapture? That’s what “le blackrock” posters are, homeless men ranting and raving.
Goddamn that’s a lot of people…
So from what I’ve seen there’s rumors of skimming off the top, as well as issues with delivering the art clients paid for. Most people who defected say that they’ll manage the unfulfilled orders as best they can
This seems to be what is being implied between the lines with what some of the artists have been saying. Here's a quote from comic artist Yildray Cinar posted on facebook and referred in a comicsbeat article:
>I am no longer represented by Cadence Comic Art. Inquiries regarding any unfulfilled orders should be directed to Cadence, as the artists lack involvement in their sales and fulfillment.
I saw like 20 people post the same thing word for word. It honestly felt like a compute virus got them all or they were hacked lol
They probably found something out and organized collectively before leaving
>organized collectively to break a contract
That would be legally dubious.
I don’t know. I’d imagine they at least talked and decided what the proper wording in public would be
That’s moronic. There is no reason to do that.
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Name one non-nobody in comics
I didn’t even say everyone listed was a nobody. How soft are you?
What about Massivo Titti
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Am I supposed to apologize for not knowing who the funk Paul Azaceta, Andy Belanger, Ryan Browne, Letizia Cadonici, Tyler Crook, Vanesa R. Del Rey, Werther Dell Edera, Daniele Di Nicuolo, Ray Fawkes, Nathan Fox, Jenny Frison, Antonio Fuso, Gavin Guidry, Gabriel Hardman, Faith Erin Hicks, Emi Lenox, Leomacs, Jesse Lonergan, Brent Schoonover, Danielle Otrakji, Richard Pace, John J. Pearson, Luca Pizzari, Giorgio Pontrelli, Emma Rios, Marco Rudy, Alison Sampson, Mateus Santolouco, Liana Kangas, Luana Vecchio, Paolo Villanelli, Dave Wachter, Mike Norton, Dustin Weaver, Kelly Williams, Pia Guerra, Ariela Kristantina, Sam Wolfe Connelly, Garry Brown, Aaron Campbell, Laurence Campbell, Francesco Manna, Jul Maroh, Justin Mason, Leila Leiz, Cory Smith, Breno Tamura, Keyla Valerio, Jeff Zornow and Marley Zarcone are? Sorry, but they’re literally whos. I don’t make the rules.
Yes. Why are you even on this board if you don't read comics?
You have ten minutes to name a comic from every single one of those people to prove you don’t need google.
I asked you a question.
I read plenty of comics, notice that isn’t the entire list. I want you to prove you know every single one of them, if you can’t look at their name and immediately name a comic you are no better.
Stop delaying you only have 7 minutes left.
Where are you anon, it’s been 11 minutes. Or would you like to admit you aren’t actually familiar with most of them?
Why LARP as some hipster superfan and then shrink like a choad when challenged?
Something like 50 names listed here:
Ten minutes it’s far more than enough time.
I guess you don’t belong on Cinemaphile if you think I don’t, homosexual
4minutes left
2 minutes, type fast otherwise we’ll know you googled some. Why are you on Cinemaphile if you can’t name a comic by the people you’re totally familiar with anon? Prove you’re better than me.
>YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO NAME A BUNCH OF LITERAL WHOS IF YOU WANT TO CLAIM YOU KNOW COMICS
>okay prove you’re familiar with them then
>…
Lol
What the frick is this thread?
One of the nobodies took offense to me calling them a nobody while they were sticking it to the man!
I’d still like to get some more details about this debacle.
At this point you may as well wait until an official story comes out. Usually if this many people aren't saying anything more than boilerplate then that means lawyers are involved. The guy demanding some insider just magically show up and spill the beans is just being a drama baby who can't read between the lines.
Here they have anonymity, best place to “leak” the deetz.
You’re a homosexual, Rich. Nobody cares about BC.
The comics fandom is self-maiming as hell.
Every BC comics article is literally just
>quirky commentary on whatever is happening in the latest capeshit run
>sketchy comics-adjacent techbro scams (DSTLRY)
>copy-pasted press releases for webtoon/manga publishers Rich obviously does not give a frick about
>perpetual seething over whatever Chuck Dixon or Mark Millar are up to any given week
It’s genuinely insane how pathetic they’ve become. It was always a farce run by a moron but it’s been deplorably bad for about a decade. Running everyone off of the site with comment moderation certainly can’t have helped their traffic.
A certain subset of groyper elon fanboy type gentlemen on this board will always side with management over talent, we see it time and time again. They LARP as ol' bootstraps boomers and imagine themselves the future business magnates.
Nobody ITT is doing that, what the ever loving frick are you talking about?
Is there some legal reason that most/all of them are posting nearly the same exact wording? Like it's not enough to quit, but they also have to specifically distance themselves in that language to avoid liability?
groupchat or just talk among themselves that probably decided this was the best legalese to explain the situation.
Because they’re mostly barely functioning morons that do this
imagining it’s some way to “show solidarity” with each other when it really just comes off as autism. Also seems like a way to bully those who aren’t leaving into explaining why as they also had rich the little b***h list those who haven’t expressed their departure.
what's the context here?
A bunch of nobody artists leaving an art dealer because they were skimming payments and not delivering the orders it seems like. But one of them sperged out ITT at the suggestion they’re a nobody.
I recognize a few of the names but I'm confused as to why work for hire freelancers have representation. Is this agency strictly for commissions or something? Apologies for being an ignorant homosexual.
This isn’t an agent in terms of publishing deals this is an art dealer, basically a middle man between artist and customer.
Imagine having a business that relies on what remains of the US Postal Service not destroying fragile items and placing your trust in LaTrina to find the right address while she’s yammering into her phone
They could have, and should have, used a trusted third party who won’t engage in hand offs. Or ship with hard plastic inside the cardboard like slabs for comics. This raises the price however and most commissioned art is overpriced as it is. Beside the fact that they seem like they were dirtbag schemers and didn’t care about the art or customer experience.
That being said, Comic Artists don’t seem realize that paintings from similarly well-known artists cost anywhere from 1200-1500 and up the more famous they are. charging 500-600 let alone more for uncolored linework of characters that show up in comics weekly and have millions of fan art pieces online that look just as good is frankly absurd.
for many, the pieces (and their names) simply aren’t worth enough for them to have an art dealer, in all honesty. This is why many people have a significant other or kid (if they’re older) run that stuff like a family business. After the dealers cut you end up getting less than you would if you just took on the stress and effort of shipping them yourself.