>called “Evil” Morty
>nothing he does is evil
Can someone explain this to me? (My IQ isn’t high enough)
>called Evil Morty. >nothing he does is evil
>called “Evil” Morty
>nothing he does is evil
Can someone explain this to me? (My IQ isn’t high enough)
>nothing he does is evil
Tell that to the thousands of Ricks and Mortys he murdered.
Your indirect answer is just going to confuse OP.
Show Rick probably has a combined Ricks/Morty death toll of about the same amount, considering how many times he's clashed with the citadel or even just lone ones.
Yeah but Rick being evil himself doesn't make evil Morty not evil simply because they were against each other. Evil can fight evil sometimes.
The show doesn't really assert Rick is "evil." Just aloof and cool and unbound by pesky narrow minded morals. Any time he shoots someone in the head it's portrayed as justified (or just a passing gag in that moment).
The only reason this Morty is "evil morty" is because things like Star Trek and other sci-fi and Saturday morning cartoons introduced concepts like "bad guy dimensions" and maybe it started as genuine intention for antagonism. But somewhere along the line abandoned the idea that he's an obstacle to overcome, maybe because the writers became self-aware and didn't like that they saw the hoop they had placed. Or at least sidelined it until they want to give the audience another cathartic storyline resolution a number of seasons later.
The show doesn't have to assert that Rick is evil. He just IS evil. He has no justification for his actions other than "I'm smarter than you and nihilism is a thing". He's well aware that the things he does are evil; he just doesn't care.
I think writer intent is very relevant to the conversation. Especially when you're discussing characters labeled, in universe, as "Evil _____"
But of course, the writers are self-aware and called attention to this silly label, and now that they're probably going to challenge that label. "Evil Morty" seems to have this out as a villain because nobody cares enough to kill him unless it's convenient. Now he has Evil Rick's blueprints for that device though, and he claims its merely precautionary, but under normal show foreshadowing, that has to be choreographed behavior setting up future events.... right? Well, maybe.
It’s crazy how he thinks he is above Rixk but then proceeds to be even more evil than our Rick by torturing and killing thousands if not millions to get his way.
Our Rick has destroyed two entire earths one screen at the MINIMUM
every rick deserves to die
honestly all mortys do too
He's "evil" because he defies Rick's bullshit.
No he’s evil because he kills without a care in the world and tortures mortys. From what we’ve seen his endgame is to be as far away as possible from everything and everyone, if nothing else he’s a sociopath.
Ricks deserve death and Morties are so fricking moronic and worthless that premature death is the only thing waiting for them in the future.
What about doofus Rick?
He should be burned at the stake.
>ovenless brownies
ESPECIALLY Doofus Rick.
Didn't he had a giant ziggurat filled with Mortys being tortured 24/7?
Yes, he's kidnapped a bunch of Mortys so they can mask his signal while he downloaded all of their Rick's brains.
Which was pointless because his Rick didn't have brainwaves to mask.
Thats the point
He was hiding the fact that there was nothing to hide he was planning on getting caught he didn't have an exit strategy
He wears eyepatch therefore bad
Should've been called "Plot Device Morty" but of course nobody in the writer's room had any intention of bringing him back when they wrote the first episode.
He killed and tortured thousands of Ricks and Mortys
The point is that he's not evil or special, he's a regular Morty that just got tired of Rick's bullshit one day. That's why his last episode sucked ass, by making him a super genius intellectually superior than all the other Morty's the message gets completely erased.
>That's why his last episode
**he was in
Also anyone who tries to debate this is mentally moronic and has the watching comprehension of a preschooler.
That episode was goated frick you
bro if you watched that show past season 2 i got nothing for u
>by making him a super genius intellectually superior than all the other Morty's the message gets completely erased
He's not, though. They explicitly showed that. He's just a Morty that took Rick's advice and "focused on science".
Are you really "Evil" if the only "evil" thing you did was kill a multitude of copies of the most obstinately evil man in the multiverse and his idiot-boy lackey?
I feel that people actively try to pretend that what Rick does isn't evil because he masks it with "indifference".
Anon, if you had a tiny clone of Hittler, would you torture it?
Considering in this comparison, said clone of Hitler is literally just Hitler from a reality where humans are just that size and he absolutely still did what he historically did; yes.
Wait, so is it Hitler or a clone of Hitler?
>Verification not required.
It's Hitler from another reality.
So, yes, it's Hitler.
Why? You wouldn't achieve anything by torturing tiny hitler. You can stop his atrocities and everything he did and its consequences are part of history now. Torturing him is only to give you pleasure.
Even if the tiny Hitler clone had exactly the same thoughts and memories as the original?
>Anon, if you had a tiny clone of Hittler, would you torture it?
Did he do the things? If so, then yes, I would.
There are no evil thoughts, just evil actions.
He's a clone, so obviously no, he didn't do anything. Also lol at all the people not getting this reference.
I get it, and the whole conflict was them having conflicting ideas of what a clone is.
Depends on the type of clone. Are we taking Spider-Man clones where they have the same memories?
>Torture tiny Hitler
What the frick? Why?
Yes, but I'd also do that to any person under 5'11.
>under 6’11
Fix’d
No, he didn't do Hitler's atrocities.
better question: would you holocaust a race of tiny hitlers?
Why would I? They did nothing wrong!
>Are you really "Evil" if the only "evil" thing you did was kill a multitude of copies of the most obstinately evil man in the multiverse and his idiot-boy lackey?
Yes, you're committing a genocide. Last I checked, that's pretty evil.
It's not really genocide if you're just killing the same two people over and over.
Not according to Jean-Luc Picard when he was defending Data’s rights as a sentient being, when a science officer wanted to use Data to build more of him.
>Star Trek TNG: Season 2 – The Measure of a Man
>A single Data - and forgive me, Commander - is a curiosity. A wonder, even. But thousands of Datas - isn't that becoming... a race? And won't we be judged by how we treat that race?
But they aren't the same 2 people, each individual have different histories, different thoughts and ideas. Like the citadel of Ricks, it is made up of only Ricks but each Rick is different.
Sounds like this story I was going to write down, a mass murderer gets to live out his 1000 year sentence in prison thanks to the Justice system cloning him and downloading his memories in the new clone after the old one dies. It's like the Ship of Theseus problem. Is he actually the same person, even though the body is new and the ideas aren't even his own? The clones hands never taken a life, but it gets to have the same punishment as the original.
>Sounds like this story I was going to write down
Now you have written it down 🙂
I find it really cringe when pieces of media try to pull that "clones diverge massively from the original person" shit
I understand that everyone have their own opinions and viewpoints, but I loved that episode.
Pretty sure you meant to quote 14151214... But either way I'm not a fan of "clones are in all respects identical to one another". We have endless examples of real living people sharing identical DNA that are raised together so they live the closest to completely shared experiences as possible and the vast bulk of them don't turn out to be the same people.
>Pretty sure you meant to quote 14151214
What makes you think he wasn’t? That anon probably has never seen a single episode of Star Trek and assumed Data was a biological being and not an android.
>jerry gets two wives
Jerry is a cuck. Just like his father.
Also, what the FRICK was with that Gwyneth Paltrow episode? Why was Jerry avoiding fricking his mom the B plot? It's so weird.
This. Two Beths doesn't feel like a win when one is a turbo-dyke who hates him and would run off with his real wife for self-cest.
>Why was Jerry avoiding fricking his mom the B plot?
Wasn't that the A-plot? But anyways, it's shock value, nothing more. They probably knew an alien with a butt that controlled the future wasn't edgy enough by itself.
Take your porn game spam somewhere else.
>reaction images and art REEEEEEEEE
have a nice day.
Could be worst
Rick and Morty is for cynical shits
Yeah, I’m taking one right now.
They're cartoons. It's OK to find it funny when they say nothing matter. It doesn't mean you agree with the cartoon character's worldview. In fact, it probably means the opposite. You are the cynical shit.
To be fair, being cynical, misanthropic butthole does make some Rick and Morty moments funnier.
So being a realist? Cause anyone could be that just be seeing what's going on in are country and the world currently.
>So being a realist?
Exactly.
No, it really doesn't. Cynicism is one-note and predictable. You can always predict the gag and the response to the gag.
>conventional moral trope
>subvert trope
>nihilism as cope
It's not clever and it's rarely funny. The showrunners know this, which is why they dial it back occasionally (easy example is the Immortality Field Resort, with the children firing at each other).
No. The cynic is a snarky sceptic. R&M is written by and aimed at people who think being a buzzkill makes you smart and better than everyone.
I love Morticia. She can't be evil.
I dunno, anon. If a Morty can be evil then so can a Morticia.
she would look pretty cute with an eyepatch
if harmon ever realizes she exists he'll definitely have morty frick her
I mean, I’m pretty sure he’s aware thanks to Pocket Mortys.
There’s also Mortabel in the show, as a background character.
We'll know when he's aware
Morticia should always have a neck
You’re just basing that off a porn game, but I agree.
cute 🙂
Because normal Morty's are nice, mild-mannered people. Also, he's got an eye-patch.
People in the fandom called him Evil Morty and the writers just went along with it.
It's stupid though, why would Morty refer to himself as Evil Morty? He does what he thinks is right, even if he admits he's a jerk.
Also, why do some people remember the unpersoned people like Slow Mobius and others don't? If it was done to Diane, and everyone remembers her, then it didn't really erase her from all timelines, did it?
I assumed Rick Prime designed the weapon to make certain loved ones keep their memories of the person just to make it extra cruel. I might be giving the writers too much credit though.
I still believe the writers should make episodes focusing on different dimensions and not just a gender bender episode, alone. I think it could refresh the series knowing the Rick and Morty we’re looking at is different from the ones we’ve known. Perhaps one of them dies and the surviving character has to deal with that loss because the Rick in this other dimension isn’t as resourceful enough to have a method to bring the death back to life and there is no Citadel where you can find a replacement Rick or Morty.
Because he plays on the trope of a reverse/anti- version of a character.
There was also the bubble of Morty's being tortured lol
Why do we never see older Morties? Are they all just stuck like that?
Maybe in the first few seasons it seems like everyone's different dimension selves were aging at the same rate but when we see the formation of The Citadel we actively see Ricks making sure Jerry and Beth get together to create new Mortys and Summers as a by product.
Rick might be keeping Morty young and pliable and as a consequence everyone else.
It makes you wonder how common or rare Mortys are beyond the Central Finite Curve.
Out of those Mortys that do exist, how many are similar to the Mortys inside the CFC? What would the age differences be? Considering the fact we’ve seen a Mortabel and Summer during a time when Rick was supposedly around his 30s, it’s possible that some or most Mortys beyond the Curve are in their 50s.
I also wonder if Rick just goes to another universe to pick up a younger Morty if his former Morty gets too old
I mean, that’s what the Citadel was for.
IYKYK
Damn Spriggan!
If Morty is suppose to be moronic and cover for rick's brain waves, wouldn't the other ricks or someone would of picked up early, that he's just as smart as rick? Why didn't the citadel do anything?
The Ricks have their heads waaaay up their own asses to bother with a Morty.
Also, frick the WebP format.
I really hate that we saw him again. Fricking off to an open ended Rickless future was the perfect conclusion for him. Now he has Chekhov's superweapon plans that guarantee he's going to eventually be dragged back for another "epic" loregay-bait episode.
I was hoping that if we did see him again, he would have gone to a dimension with a regular grandpa Rick, since I’ve felt like that would be the version of Rick he could tolerate and sought after, after dealing with all the bullshit he had to deal with while being confined inside the CFC.
Lore is the only reason anyone likes Rick and Morty since it's actually different from the 1,000 other shows with no lore and just le wacky randomness that you can go watch instead.
No anon, that was part of the reason people liked it in 2014. People will deny this nowadays but when Rick and Morty first aired. It was unique and edgy. Sure you could say the sci-fi was "edgy futurama" but it went all in on portraying the characters as dysfunctional messes with deep seated issues and could derive some really good jokes from that (Total Rickall's ending), and some dramatic moments (first interdimensional cable).
Problem was it lost the balance. First two seasons downright made of the idea of leaning heavily into the lore because it was thematically appropriate, it didn't matter how we got to this situation, what mattered is we were there and got to watch the dysfunctional fireworks. Rick himself worked best when he was the chaotic element that the audience couldn't read or predict but got sneaks and glimpses at his vulnerability and the flaws in his nihilistic worldview. Once he got a clear backstory with a clear motivation, that took a backseat, which is probably why they axed off Rick Prime as soon as they could, to return Rick to just being an aimless man who screwed up his family's life with his whacky sci-fi shit.
Then there was just a matter of how other shows with similar characterizations started popping up and the show was no longer unique or edgy, the family drama started being the heart of the show to the point that the kind of nihilistic jokes of Total Rickall and similar episodes were gone.
He was president of the Citadel. That's evil enough for most people.
I want Dan Harmon to pull statistics out of his ass about the Rick and Morty multiverse.
>there are approximately 10 trillion trillion Mortys that have been caught jerking off with Jessica’s underwear
>only 10 of those Jessicas were into that shit
>one-thousand-four-hundred-and-forty-two Ricks have bothered launching a missile out of their dick
>page 9
should be a new update tomorrow
Yeah, it should be ready by the time I come home, tomorrow.
alright i give in. i want to download that game but forgot the title.
Another Way Home
mega (DOT) nz/file/CyJCXZpK#Fa-zHAXAscHvy9FxXKfVlRg_36k-9sJyCIUR1SRHcNQ
Another Way Home
Appreciate it.
No problem.
He's the Lucifier of his multiverse standing against its Demiurge (Rick).
This makes ontologically evil as he is a force that opposes authority of Providence.
Wanna see him go to a different universe outside the curve. Explore that shit
Poor morticia
Morticia is such a shit name and proof of how uncreative millenials are.
Mortcieline
Morticia
Mortiette
Girl Morty
Take your pick
Mortania
my wife
Mortilicity
Well, it won over Molly, Mortis, and Mortia, on Twitter.
Why?
He has to be more specific about looking up porn of her, otherwise he’ll get Addams Family porn.
>(My IQ isn’t high enough)
He tortured and killed countless Morty's. Your IQ really isn't high enough. But judging from the replies, it seems your in good company. So I will expand on this.
What makes Morty the most evil is one thing: apathy. The opposite of love isn't hate; it's apathy. The Trumptards that stormed the capital were doing it together. When Hitler decided to kill as many israelites as possible and anyone he deemed not worthy of his ideal Germany, he didn't do it alone. He had a TON of help. People who were in love with Trump and America did what they did and those who were in love with Hitler and Germany the same. So how can the polar opposite of evil be love?
No, pure evil is when you remove all attachment from the equation.You live purely for yourself and no one else...no matter the cost. And just like pure good, pure evil is VERY hard to pull off. It's almost impossible because it defies the natural order of the universe. Nature even punishes you for trying (depression).
Evil Morty has willingly and completely detached himself from everyone. But how do you get them out of your life when everything about your reality makes you dependent on them. You use them purely as a means to an end.
I've said this before on Cinemaphile, but Morty isn't actually stupid. There's many types of intelligence (this was stated in the Bigfoot/Viking death episode). Morty is the ultimate user. In the very first episode, you see this when Morty uses the gravity shoes to escape. Later in the series, you see him use Rick's gear for all kinds of things. He can't INVENT it, but he can USE it better than Rick. With all goodness removed, you now free up his intelligence ability (Rick does the same).
Believe me, I know. I've tried really hard to be apathetic, but it's really hard to not care about anything. But I do it better than most.
Morty won't even use the omega weapon against Rick because, doing so without provocation, won't get him left alone.
>Rick and Morty Thread
>Trump
Get some help, bro. Before you go on a troony rampage at some school.
>He tortured and killed countless Morty's.
Rick commited countless genocides as casually as you might swat a fly. He created entire pocket universe to use for slave labour. He is an utter and complete monster. Morty is his willing acomplice.
Bringing any sort of morality here is laughable when all those people make Misc Pot's crimes insignificant.
>It's almost impossible because it defies the natural order of the universe
What "natural order"? The same order that allows animals to kill eachother everyday without mercy for food? It's not nature punishing you for it, its your brain, dumbass. It needs you to care for other humans for reasons based on instintctual survival. If Rick were actually smart, he should've gotten rid off that instinct. Then he'd truly be excatly what he preaches.
you're combining love/hate and good/evil, but that's the wrong way to look at it. Love/hate are relatively simple emotions while good/evil are higher debatable societal concepts.
He's evil in the sense that he's the opposite of what he's supposed to be. Regular Morty commits just as many heinous acts but we're supposed to consider him good.
Rick is pure evil. Morty is evil by doing his bidding. They are all evil.
>pure evil
I'm pretty sure he has SOME standards.
I'll admit, I never watched the show religiously, so I'm not the most well informed on it, but from the episodes I've seen, it seems like he at least has some inner sense of morality, even if it's still shit compared to actual people with decent morals, and is mostly limited to specific people and things. The Rick that I'm pretty sure is actually the main character for the show, that is, I can't say anything about the morality of the other Ricks. And from what I've seen of Evil Morty, he's got none of that.
But hey, I only really watch on Saturday nights before Toonami, so my opinion is probably less valid than those of any actual fans.
I’ve been stupid enough to purchase the seasons as they become available on Amazon Prime, rather than pirating the episodes. On the plus side, I save hard disk space by not downloading the episodes.
Okay?
Yeah.
You?
What?
What? You asked if I was okay, so now I’m asking you.
That's not what that meant.
Whatever.
>I'm pretty sure he has SOME standards.
He doesn't. He in the show uses slave labour, commits genocides, is an illegal arms dealer and producer of date rape drugs. Any standards he might have are purely arbitrary and based on nothing more than fleeting whims. He is an irredeemable monster and he doesn't care. And Morty is an acomplice in most of his crimes.
It’s almost like people have never watch the Season 3 pilot ending to see Rick’s true motives.
Who are you? Who am I to you?
He killed thousands of other Mortys, and that was after he tortured hundreds of them. At the very least, those Mortys are presumed innocent enough.
Are all Mortys really innocent? Most of them may be moral but even then, it’s flexible.
it's up
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to get it for another 6 or so hours.
Get to what? And where are you getting all this Morticia stuff?
Downloading the patch to the R&M porn game, Another Way Home.
>he doesn't know
It’s up.
I wonder if Night Mirror fixed that one error that Ive mentioned or if it’s going to be in the next patch…? I did mention it kind of late, but I wasn’t sure if it was an easy enough fix to do on time for this patch.
I guess I’ll find out, later.
Which error?
Apparently, Morty and Morticia flashes for a frame a couple of times, during their moment with Summer where she’s stuck in a portal, that wasn’t supposed to be there, according to NM.
It appears that it has been fixed in this update.
>It's a Jessica episode
The Jessica stuff is nice but didn’t expect the bonus update to a previous scene. Morty’s gone to the dark side.
Frick, should I postpone my plasma donation to see this?
no no, it'll still be there waiting for you
Yeah, but I’m really looking forward to the new content.
How does one update the game? I got it from the mega here and I don't have much context on the development behind it. Is it a manual patch?
you download the "update only" patch, then unzip it into the main folder and say yes to replace files, then it's done. when you open it, it'll be the new update
thank you for spoonfeeding me anon-kun.
Some of us make mistakes…
>Rick controlled the narrative of the show
>the only morty who isn't subservient is called evil
how is this hard to grasp?
The Ricktriarchy calls him evil.
How would you put up with Rick’s shit, if he forced you to go on adventures with him?
I would just passive-aggressively poke holes in the logic of everything he says. I know I wouldn’t be as smart as him, but it won’t keep me from being a smartass.
I kinda wish there were more fun 'Morty picks the adventures because of his cards' episodes and that Rick doesn't resent it
I mean, even Rick says 'evil' is way too melodramatic, and he really is right, all he wants is to just not be stuck in a multiversal confines that exists largely to suck off someone he hates.
I fricking love this.
Spoilering just in case there are people playing AWH who haven't done the latest Day/Mind Blower.
yeah, finally some damn progress with Morty/Jessica's relationship and some more actual character development for her. She gets almost none in the show.
He did murder a lot of Morties.
>Killed Rick’s that he didn’t even have a beef with
>Kidnapped and tortured hundreds of Mortys
>Killed Ricks and Mortys only because they got too close to knowing who he was
I was actually on a rick and morty thread discussing this hoe once, and some homosexual redditor moron called me a small dick mra incel just for saying she is responsible for cheating on her husband. This fandom should be gassed
Would you go in the Hole?
I’m not jaded enough to derive the entertainment benefit that Rick or Morty would from it, and like Rick I don’t think I could face my darkest demons in that way. I’d rather deal with them slowly and over time, not risking my life head on all at once.