I love how the attempts to ban that word have already backfired online with people already saying "neurodivergent" in the same context just to demonstrate the meaninglessness of the euphenism treadmill
What? Neurodivergent is not at all used in the same context. Nobody throws around "neurodivergent" as an insult.
A better example would be Tiktok users inventing censored slurs like "restarted"
The thing with moron and all words that attempt to replace it will always end up becoming derogatory since they always mean calling someone next level stupid, and stupid/idiot on its own is a common insult. moron used to be the accepted term, it replaced mongoloid.
What? Neurodivergent is not at all used in the same context. Nobody throws around "neurodivergent" as an insult.
A better example would be Tiktok users inventing censored slurs like "restarted"
>t. Neurodivergent
Piss off ND
You're just mad because I have special awesome YA brain powers.
There has always been an arms race between the powers that be inventing new euphemisms for moronation and those euphemisms becoming the new insult. Even moronic was the nice way of saying it, once upon a time. That's why they've started using more and more cumbersome terms lately.
>stick figure >stick figure; girl
Would I be out of line for thinking this is a reflection of the self image of young boys vs the self image of young girls
Sort of, I think boys have a lower amount of inherent self-worth and they feel there’s nothing special about them in most given situations, where girls, especially growing up in a world of fashion and dating, are more likely to see themselves as pretty and something the other people in a given room are happy to look at. Kind of like girls feel they deserve attention and boys do not
its actually fricked how the male diary protag is an utter narcistical sociopath and the female diary protag is a self insert for normal girls
and yet the male one is massivly more well known
As a kid I always loved how close to insanity Greg was. He was the person I wish I could be because I too dealt with some of the worst morons imaginable at school. His frown says it all.
No. The official website has colored pics of her and she's your basic white girl. Though I myself was surprised that she had brown hair instead of blonde.
Semi-related, but why can other pieces of childrens media get away with much more than cartoons?
I saw a live action kids show the other day where they had an explicit incest plotline. It wasn't an old TV show either. And yet you can't even mention spin the bottle in a cartoon without S&P sperging out.
When cartoons do it, it's considered "predatory"
Also you're less likely to have a parent walk in on their kids reading whatever
A mom isn't gonna comb through Animorphs to notice all the fricked up subject matter
>I saw a live action kids show the other day where they had an explicit incest plotline
Andy Mack had a plotline where the main character's sister is actually her mother and her parents sre actually her grandparents. Kids shows get away with a lot nowadays.
I wonder why. Maybe it's to due with production? Books and comics are relatively cheaper to make than movies and TV for instance, so maybe the costs of controversy doesn't weigh so much.
The style of writing is really aggravating, I think the author hasn’t realized that we left le penguin of d00m behind in like 2012. The way the universe bends over backwards to give the MC everything she wants gets pretty old by the 10th book but hey, the art is cute and the scenarios can be funny sometimes. 3/10 Brianna sexo.
>I think the author hasn’t realized that we left le penguin of d00m behind in like 2012.
Is it really that dated or is just par for the course of the series being about a teenage girl?
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>I think the author hasn’t realized that we left le penguin of d00m behind in like 2012.
Is it really that dated or is just par for the course of the series being about a teenage girl?
The writer is like a 50/ then 40 year old black woman
1. Amelia Rules isn't a diary comic
2. I'd unironically dig an Amelia Rules styled diary comic that actually has the emotional depth and character development that series has. Let the characters age dammit
That's fair
Amelia edged out for me because of the more emotional beats and I love how it uses comics as a medium (which isn't a fair comparison given it's not an actual diary comic)
Then again I haven't read the entirety of DDD so I wouldn't know if it tackles the same level of subject matter or character development
Look, I know (unless I'm mistaken) that technically speaking it's only been like a year tops in-universe for the series (apparently there are whole books that span a month to even a week max) but do teenage girls still talk like this?
Not surprised IIRC like the 4th or 6th one actually straight up copypasted some of one of the previous books.
Doesn't he try to make Greg less sociopathic in recent books because he hates it when people call him that?
Tbh I never got the "Greg is a sociopath" thing, his mom and Manny seemed way more insane and it kinda seemed like Greg was more or less just coping with that.
>I never got the "Greg is a sociopath" thing >Rarely ever smiles, usually only when something bad that benefits him happens >Treats his one and only friend like dirt >Never apologizes or takes blame for anything he does (or doesn't do) >Very comfortably lies to the people around him to get what he wants
Greg is a sick kid compared to the rest of the other kids he hangs with.
Doesn't he try to make Greg less sociopathic in recent books because he hates it when people call him that?
The new books and recent movies really tries to downplay all of Greg's bad qualities. The Disney+ animated movies and newer books basically treat Greg like he's way younger than what he actually is.
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The DOAWK fandom is weird to me because it exists but people will openly admit the series has run its course ala Zombie Simpsons and that they'd rather just shitpost with the characters
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That's most fandoms for shows that ran their course. Simpsons, Family Guy, Spongebob, etc.
Apparently some network exec wanted to make a cartoon series but Jim didn't agree to it because they wanted Franny to be in high school and be envious of the popular girl
In retrospect, that exec should have gone with trying to get a Dear Dumb Diary series made
I was thinking about a DDD series last night. It would've been better than whatever the frick the Hallmark Musical was.
I'm sure you could condense the first 8-12 books into one season. Maybe have the wedding be the season arc.
I wonder if Benton mentioned any series proposals in an interview somewhere.
Jamie is a cute. Never got the comparisons with Wimpy Kid and Dork Diaries, except for that they're actually designed like diaries.
Jamie was always more similar to Greg than Nikki ever was.
I find it interesting that these two exemplify the difference in stuff that young boys and girls enjoy. I can't really put it to words right now, and it's easier to use Japanese comics for this.
Basically, the art of Dork Diaries is all detailed and shit with the writing of a spoiled teenage girl. Wimpy Kid has very simple it, especially by comparison, and has much more bizarre scenarios and grossout humor. No shit they're the most popular.
I don't know where I'm going with this, I need to eat something before I gay out even more.
Diary of a Wimpy Kid is self-effacing and about getting caught in strange situations, while Dork Diaries is literally about the cute outfits and which girl might have the cutest one. Goes to show the difference between young male and female self image
I'm a young person and I still don't understand what the frick "orange justice" was about. I legitimately don't understand the joke. Maybe I'm just autistic
>Fortnite circa 2018 >game has a contest where whoever has the best taunt dance gets the dance made in the game >some kid in an orange shirt goes viral for his sperg dance >doesn't win the contest >outrage.png >fans demand his dance get added to the game >Epic relents and does it >orange justice now joins the ranks of the griddy and teach me how to dougie in cringe meme heaven
I've come to the conclusion that the characters are drawn as chucked up stick figures.
It all makes sense that way. Their whole bodies are blacked out because they're stick figures. Try drawing a stick figure but add face, hair, clothes, hands, all that shit. You'll get similar results.
I hate the stick figure forms lmao, the other character design without the black arms is much nicer. The elevated stick figure idea is strange because they really do cover up the entire stick figure with cosmetics and fashion
I've come to the conclusion that the characters are drawn as chucked up stick figures.
It all makes sense that way. Their whole bodies are blacked out because they're stick figures. Try drawing a stick figure but add face, hair, clothes, hands, all that shit. You'll get similar results.
Because they are. For some strange reason the artist constantly switches from the weird half-stick figure style to the more realistic drawings like in
MacKenzie Hollister mogs the everloving FRICK out of Nikki Maxwell.
I have this one actually, this is the book where she farts at the beginning.
Because he has a big head.
As for the books, they were pretty good for middle schooler books, lots of fun stuff in them. The comic strip is golden, too.
Greg seems too stable to be a school shooter. If he became a killer, he'll probably be the type to plan the death of his wife to get insurance, only to boggle it up, or try spiking disease in food products but get anthrax on himself.
Best Case Scenario: Greg works a dead end job and wallows in his mediocrity while everyone else in his life goes on to do bigger and better things.
Worst Case Scenario: Greg is a NEET who lives with his parents playing Twisted Wizards everyday while his spineless parents meander as to whether or not they should kick him out.
So much for being rich and famous. He seemed to show promise with his comics but that's always a huge gamble. Really, all these MCs could be cartoonists.
I would find that extremely hot.
She’s 14.
Out of 10!
>le 9/11 inside joke
seek mental help
She should have breasts and be a little curvy.
Anon, please, I can only be so erect.
same
>this is that black girl I was telling you about
Finding out she’s black was like finding out Santa isn’t real.
you're talking a about the creator right?
Zoey's the black girl
Nikki's white
Not with that hair.
SHE'S WHAT
I'm not a moron
I love how the attempts to ban that word have already backfired online with people already saying "neurodivergent" in the same context just to demonstrate the meaninglessness of the euphenism treadmill
What? Neurodivergent is not at all used in the same context. Nobody throws around "neurodivergent" as an insult.
A better example would be Tiktok users inventing censored slurs like "restarted"
>t. Neurodivergent
Piss off ND
>moronic
>slur
Huh? Are you moronic?
The thing with moron and all words that attempt to replace it will always end up becoming derogatory since they always mean calling someone next level stupid, and stupid/idiot on its own is a common insult. moron used to be the accepted term, it replaced mongoloid.
I have never heard of Neurodivergent being used as an insult. You must be smoking some that Za if you believe it.
I love how you're moronic enough to think thats true
You're just mad because I have special awesome YA brain powers.
being an ESL is not a superpower
There has always been an arms race between the powers that be inventing new euphemisms for moronation and those euphemisms becoming the new insult. Even moronic was the nice way of saying it, once upon a time. That's why they've started using more and more cumbersome terms lately.
All words for it will eventually become politically incorrect, specifically because being moronic is awful
If ignorance is bliss then morons are the only happy people.
>rape
Who from what?
Nikki Maxwell from Dork Diaries
>ok rowley now hit the second tower
MY SIDES!
I doubt it
>stick figure
>stick figure; girl
Would I be out of line for thinking this is a reflection of the self image of young boys vs the self image of young girls
No it’s really accurate
Do you mean girls think theyre really unique and boys think they’re run of the mill?
Sort of, I think boys have a lower amount of inherent self-worth and they feel there’s nothing special about them in most given situations, where girls, especially growing up in a world of fashion and dating, are more likely to see themselves as pretty and something the other people in a given room are happy to look at. Kind of like girls feel they deserve attention and boys do not
its actually fricked how the male diary protag is an utter narcistical sociopath and the female diary protag is a self insert for normal girls
and yet the male one is massivly more well known
It's just that one's more interesting than the other.
Wimpy Kid also had multiple films, which helps a lot.
As a kid I always loved how close to insanity Greg was. He was the person I wish I could be because I too dealt with some of the worst morons imaginable at school. His frown says it all.
She's not actually black... right?
I don’t think it’s ever stated or even relevant. One of the friends is a Latina at least.
No. The official website has colored pics of her and she's your basic white girl. Though I myself was surprised that she had brown hair instead of blonde.
Semi-related, but why can other pieces of childrens media get away with much more than cartoons?
I saw a live action kids show the other day where they had an explicit incest plotline. It wasn't an old TV show either. And yet you can't even mention spin the bottle in a cartoon without S&P sperging out.
Perception.
When cartoons do it, it's considered "predatory"
Also you're less likely to have a parent walk in on their kids reading whatever
A mom isn't gonna comb through Animorphs to notice all the fricked up subject matter
>I saw a live action kids show the other day where they had an explicit incest plotline
They did that on All Grown Up too you know.
>I saw a live action kids show the other day where they had an explicit incest plotline
SAUCE
NOW
>I saw a live action kids show the other day where they had an explicit incest plotline
Andy Mack had a plotline where the main character's sister is actually her mother and her parents sre actually her grandparents. Kids shows get away with a lot nowadays.
I don't care enough to try to think of why. But I feel like the hierarchy of "how much a kids media can get away with" goes like.
Books > comics/graphic novels > movies > television animation
I never actually thought about if there was a live action tv vs animation tv split before now, but that makes sense.
I wonder why. Maybe it's to due with production? Books and comics are relatively cheaper to make than movies and TV for instance, so maybe the costs of controversy doesn't weigh so much.
I haven't read dork diaries, how does it compare to other "Diary comics"(Dear dumb diary, Diary of a wimpy kid, Amelia rules...)etc
>Amelia Rules
>Diary comic
The style of writing is really aggravating, I think the author hasn’t realized that we left le penguin of d00m behind in like 2012. The way the universe bends over backwards to give the MC everything she wants gets pretty old by the 10th book but hey, the art is cute and the scenarios can be funny sometimes. 3/10 Brianna sexo.
>I think the author hasn’t realized that we left le penguin of d00m behind in like 2012.
Is it really that dated or is just par for the course of the series being about a teenage girl?
If it was really accurate then she would be dropping even more R bombs than she normally does
Does she really say moron in one of the books? Which one?
multiple times in the first book, which of course have been reprinted and edited out by now
(they still haven't touched the bit where she calls Mackenzie a schizo though)
haha, awesome
>penguin of d00m
What's that?
Anon please don't, I already feel old.
Tell us a story Grandanon, from the early 2000s!
hi every1 im new!!!!!!! *holds up spork* my name is katy but u can call me t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random ppl like me ^_^… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again ^_^ hehe…toodles!!!!!
love and waffles,
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m
Children still talk like this just with more skull emojis and different slang
The writer is like a 50/ then 40 year old black woman
>The writer is like a 60/ then 50 year old black woman
Fixed, she was born in 1959.
1. Amelia Rules isn't a diary comic
2. I'd unironically dig an Amelia Rules styled diary comic that actually has the emotional depth and character development that series has. Let the characters age dammit
In my opinion going by those four and based on my experiences with them
Amelia Rules > Dear Dumb Diary > Diary of a Wimpy Kid > Dork Diaries
personally I'd put DDD over ameilia rules. I just think it's more funny and the drawings are more entertaining
That's fair
Amelia edged out for me because of the more emotional beats and I love how it uses comics as a medium (which isn't a fair comparison given it's not an actual diary comic)
Then again I haven't read the entirety of DDD so I wouldn't know if it tackles the same level of subject matter or character development
Dumb diary and wimpy kid both came out in 2004
Look, I know (unless I'm mistaken) that technically speaking it's only been like a year tops in-universe for the series (apparently there are whole books that span a month to even a week max) but do teenage girls still talk like this?
finding out that the knockoff wimpy kid series is still going is as shocking as finding out that it was written by an old black lady
Jamie is hot
You know Diary of a Wimpy Kid itself is still going on right?
and the author flat out said if he can still make money off those books, he'll keep pumping em out
Doesn't he try to make Greg less sociopathic in recent books because he hates it when people call him that?
Not surprised IIRC like the 4th or 6th one actually straight up copypasted some of one of the previous books.
Tbh I never got the "Greg is a sociopath" thing, his mom and Manny seemed way more insane and it kinda seemed like Greg was more or less just coping with that.
He treats Rowley like a pet
Rowley is blatantly subhuman in intelligence it's honestly a beneficial arrangement.
>I never got the "Greg is a sociopath" thing
>Rarely ever smiles, usually only when something bad that benefits him happens
>Treats his one and only friend like dirt
>Never apologizes or takes blame for anything he does (or doesn't do)
>Very comfortably lies to the people around him to get what he wants
Greg is a sick kid compared to the rest of the other kids he hangs with.
The new books and recent movies really tries to downplay all of Greg's bad qualities. The Disney+ animated movies and newer books basically treat Greg like he's way younger than what he actually is.
The DOAWK fandom is weird to me because it exists but people will openly admit the series has run its course ala Zombie Simpsons and that they'd rather just shitpost with the characters
That's most fandoms for shows that ran their course. Simpsons, Family Guy, Spongebob, etc.
Greg would not look like that
>it was written by an old black lady
Reminds me how I found out Fred Perry is black
>Jamie Kelly
Huh, Jim Benton made additional Dear Dumb Diary comics in 2020
The comics were kind of lame, but the song was pretty based. Wonder how or why he did it.
I also liked his Franny K Stein series
>Dear Dumb Diary
>Franny K. Stein
>It's Happy Bunny
>Sweetypuss
Christ, this fricker was everywhere.
Apparently some network exec wanted to make a cartoon series but Jim didn't agree to it because they wanted Franny to be in high school and be envious of the popular girl
In retrospect, that exec should have gone with trying to get a Dear Dumb Diary series made
I was thinking about a DDD series last night. It would've been better than whatever the frick the Hallmark Musical was.
I'm sure you could condense the first 8-12 books into one season. Maybe have the wedding be the season arc.
I wonder if Benton mentioned any series proposals in an interview somewhere.
>an old black lady
Who used to be a lawyer.
Jamie is a cute. Never got the comparisons with Wimpy Kid and Dork Diaries, except for that they're actually designed like diaries.
Jamie was always more similar to Greg than Nikki ever was.
I'm looking at pages from the Dear Dumb Diary and I completely forgot how entertainingly batshit insane the illustrations were
*Dear Dumb Diary series
>swissmiss instant piss
kek makes me regret never reading these. if they're as good as wimpy kid, then I might have to check it out
I don’t care enough to bring up actual sales statistics but I assume it’s because they’re the most popular mock-diary series
I find it interesting that these two exemplify the difference in stuff that young boys and girls enjoy. I can't really put it to words right now, and it's easier to use Japanese comics for this.
Basically, the art of Dork Diaries is all detailed and shit with the writing of a spoiled teenage girl. Wimpy Kid has very simple it, especially by comparison, and has much more bizarre scenarios and grossout humor. No shit they're the most popular.
I don't know where I'm going with this, I need to eat something before I gay out even more.
Diary of a Wimpy Kid is self-effacing and about getting caught in strange situations, while Dork Diaries is literally about the cute outfits and which girl might have the cutest one. Goes to show the difference between young male and female self image
What a dork.
I never read Dork Diaries, I was more of a DOAWK kid
Can someone give me a quick rundown on it?
The top part of
is the basic gist.
I want to whip my penis out in front of nikki
post lewds
I'm a young person and I still don't understand what the frick "orange justice" was about. I legitimately don't understand the joke. Maybe I'm just autistic
It’s a Fortnite dance, sheesh
>Fortnite circa 2018
>game has a contest where whoever has the best taunt dance gets the dance made in the game
>some kid in an orange shirt goes viral for his sperg dance
>doesn't win the contest
>outrage.png
>fans demand his dance get added to the game
>Epic relents and does it
>orange justice now joins the ranks of the griddy and teach me how to dougie in cringe meme heaven
I have this one actually, this is the book where she farts at the beginning.
(Idk why Cinemaphile hates this post so much)
apparently the more recent reprints remove the incredibly dated stuff
you think they got around to removing this?
Hahahahahhahahahaha
Need to get me one of those blonde mops
Damn I should read this, looks hilarious
>doing something questionable with a mop
I remember that episode of Rocko's Modern Life.
Which one of you sick fricks fricked a mop?
My sides
*makes her my breeding slave*
>anime
I had the most unbelievable crush on Mackenzie when reading these books as a child.
I can fix her
Peak Female Form
No wonder Nikki hates Mackenzie.
MacKenzie Hollister mogs the everloving FRICK out of Nikki Maxwell.
Nikki has sex. MacKenzie FRICKS.
why are the necks blacked out?
I've come to the conclusion that the characters are drawn as chucked up stick figures.
It all makes sense that way. Their whole bodies are blacked out because they're stick figures. Try drawing a stick figure but add face, hair, clothes, hands, all that shit. You'll get similar results.
I hate the stick figure forms lmao, the other character design without the black arms is much nicer. The elevated stick figure idea is strange because they really do cover up the entire stick figure with cosmetics and fashion
Because they are. For some strange reason the artist constantly switches from the weird half-stick figure style to the more realistic drawings like in
She got that gwen stacy hair
You can tell it was written by a Black with a hatred toward white people.
1. The author is a white male
2. The main character is a white girl
giwtwm on the bottom
Jamie was really just seething at Angeline's perfect Aryan genetics.
Jamie reeks of being a femcel
These kids watch too much anime or are Muslims.
>cute anime face
>blob hands
every time
Kids who love art hate drawing hands. My cousins draw and they try to avoid hands whenever possible because then they just draw nubs.
Saved
I never read Big Nate, is it really that good?
Why is he called Big Nate when he's the same size as the other kids?
Because he has a big head.
As for the books, they were pretty good for middle schooler books, lots of fun stuff in them. The comic strip is golden, too.
Big Nate is funny as hell, I loved reading them.
It's been like 15 years and all these guys are still in middle school. Are they stupid?
>BTFO’s the frick out of wimpy kid
Nothing personal
I'm still mad the movie took all the depressing elements out.
>the R word
Diary of a Wimpy Kid’s art style and the self-image of young boys be like
Smeet.
spoiler]Ploopy![/spoiler
I don't even know how I fricked that one up
Fail.
Why are all you homies forgetting Timmy Failure?
I was 13 when that book came out
Drawgayged these guys.
nice
lel
kek nice
>the middle school wyomt one
frick it still hurts
This thread has been a great blast to the past, I loved all these series when I was a kid
If you guys like these books you'll love Harriet The Spy and The Long Secret
Yeah, I have another word that starts with "R" for her.
Ryona.
Was she a closeted carpet muncher for this Aryan goddess or was she just seething like a lot of kids her age?
>Was she a closeted carpet muncher for this Aryan goddess or was she just seething like a lot of kids her age?
yes
We all know Greg will die in an attempted school shooting, but what would Nikki grow up to be?
My Wife and the mother of 5
OF model (it gets single digit views compared to Mackenzie's)
Greg seems too stable to be a school shooter. If he became a killer, he'll probably be the type to plan the death of his wife to get insurance, only to boggle it up, or try spiking disease in food products but get anthrax on himself.
Alright, then what's Greg doing as an adult?
Best Case Scenario: Greg works a dead end job and wallows in his mediocrity while everyone else in his life goes on to do bigger and better things.
Worst Case Scenario: Greg is a NEET who lives with his parents playing Twisted Wizards everyday while his spineless parents meander as to whether or not they should kick him out.
So much for being rich and famous. He seemed to show promise with his comics but that's always a huge gamble. Really, all these MCs could be cartoonists.
Wagie
bump
She just called you a moron, and you're just gonna take it that way ?