What was your favorite story arc? I liked the baby raccoon one the most - feels the most human arc in the series
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Calvin and Hobbes
This is a PISS post thread
Would it have happened if Watterson had simply license the series for simple shit like T-Shirts?
Probably, since when did bootlegs care about the law?
Wouldn't have changed anything, bootleg Bart Simpsons were everywhere back then when Simpsons stuff was all over the place by the second season.
Can we all agree that Calvin's mom is fricking sexy
Fap before you post
>colored hair
>black/dark colored clothing
>now she's GOTH
Goth as a term has lost all meaning on the last decade
I prefer Rosalyn, Charlie's a lucky guy
I bet you say that about every single female character in every Cinemaphile media ever. Desperate fricking limpdick.
yes
Should the strip have continued past 1995?
Nah, 95 was pretty much the last year it could conceivably still be a contemporary strip without taking it outside of its original year. C&H just fundamentally feels out of place alongside the early days of widespread internet access.
Why have all the threads been dead lately? Do people not like it now?
I like that you're trying to engage, but the wording of your post makes me want to hit you.
Anyway, it's probably a tie between Attack of the Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goons and the time travel book report story.
I always loved when the comic branched off into horror and sci-fi combined with Watterson's humor and sarcasm.
>I like that you're trying to engage, but the wording of your post makes me want to hit you.
Why, what's wrong with how I worded it?
I like the duplicator arc
This one and the strip about Calvin flying an F-15 and bombing his school to smithereens earned Watterson a lot of outrage.
This one too. He has a commentary on in it in the 10th anniversary book where he mentions people writing angry letters about how he was equating adoption with cannibalism. I have a really hard time imagining how people could be bothered to send the equivalent of facebook boomer complaints via snailmail back in the day.
People getting offended over trivial bullshit has been around a lot longer than everyone seems to think.
I just mean the whole process of it: you gotta be mad enough to actually sit down, write a letter, put it in the envelope, write down the address of the newspaper on the front, and then dox yourself on the back, buy (!) stamps to stick on it, and then walk to the mailbox to send it away, all that effort, and there's no way you're ever even gonna get feedback on it. No response, you're just sending it into the void at your time and expense. Sending hate effortlessly on social media at least makes sense cause its so easy, but doing it by post the old fashioned way is just baffling to me.
Everything was better back in the day, including the quality of haters.
Anyway, my favorite arc is the one where Calvin convinces Rosalyn to play Calvinball with him and she figures out how to play it way better and faster than he expects.
Would Susie enjoy it if Calvin wasn't a jerk to her?
>HOBBES! SHE'S STUMBLED INTO THE PERIMETER OF WISDOM! RUN!!
In the old days it wasn't posted for all the world to see. The only time you'd see dumb letters is if the editorial staff of a comic book deigned to print them on the mail page.
I mean, people were writing angry letters to Charles Schulz even long before ACBC aired
I mean it is kind of fricked up. He even changed it, thus admitting blame. Imagine if you were adopted and you see it in the comics treated as this zany fricked up thing on par with cannibalism
Are you serious? The joke is in the escalation of scenarios, no saying adoption itself is bad. Watterson never should have backed down to crazies like you.
The propeller beanie saga
That was Ovaltine-level greatness
>mfw just realized they were playing doctor
How did you not realize that until now
I was a sheltered kid
You'll notice that despite Calvin's very loudly expressed dislike for Suzie, Hobbes unironically crushes on her. If Hobbes weren't real, I'd say he was expressing Calvin's secret crush on her that he refuses to admit even to himself.
But both Calvin and Susie have stated that they hate each other in the comic. Why would they ever like each other
Didn't Susie still invite Calvin and Hobbes for cookies after that strip where she almost gets in trouble thanks to Calvin and thinks about how she hates him?
Reminder that Calvin never played with Susie again after this strip. Therefore, we can conclude that he will never play with her again
anon you already made your autistic rant thread a week ago.
please not again
>You have to vaccume the white house all day.
Why the frick did this make me laugh so hard?
>Wonga-Taa
Every god damn time
I have a faint memory of walking in on my sister playing doctor with a family friend's kids when I was 6 and she was 4. I hadn't thought about that in decades.
Great ones.
>Darling
>Honey
They so got together when they grew out of their boys/girls are gross phase right
Susie thinks Calvin is fricking ugly and said he looks better when dirt is covering his features
Did you miss the part where she keeps playing house with him regardless and calling him shit like Honey and Darling
Absolutely, he's gonna be begging her for a date once puberty sets in
She signed a contract that said he would never ask her on a daye or talk to him again before he could finish though. Why would she ever change her mind
They're 6, obviously things change as people get older. That could mean growing apart, but it could also mean growing closer, their fate is ultimately left for the reader to decide
I'm too cynical. I don't think people ever change, even after they're 6
Do you think that's how Watterson would want us to interpret where Calvin's life could take him?
I dunno, and I don't really care. If it was that important to him he'd make a statement about it, but instead he left it up to our imagination
Obviously. Whether it lasts or not is the real question.
Why wouldn't it if Calvin grew out of his girls are gross phase.
Susie will never forgive Calvin even of he matures
>Best Calvin and Hobbes strip
>no Hobbes
Really makes me think
Hobbes < Jeffrey
>Let's hope it's a divorce
Man I love Bill Watterson's humor
"The mysteries" was a big fat disappointment though. I was hoping I'd see him DRAW, not pose some gross looking clay models. It was a shame because I know he can do better than that.
The other artist did the clay.
So that was Bill Watterson's story?
"And the mysteries lived happily ever after"?
I don't get it. It just felt more like a wordplay on the concept of "mystery" and it wants us to dig really hard into what was in the cage, but then it'd "give away the mystery". It feels like something written for a college literature class as more of a thought exercise than a story, which isn't bad but I didn't really get anything out of it. I guess good thing it was only 11 bucks.
Honestly I like it more when he's funny
Watterson mostly just does paintings these days, so all the backgrounds of the book are done by him and they look pretty nice.
I once listened to someone say how they couldn't understand people imagining the two getting together after viewing the strip
i can see it going both ways, but not without them getting drunk and doing the hanky panky at some stage.
So you think they wouldn't grow to like each other eventually even after they mature?
it could, but it could also be that sorta thing where making it full time kills it. one of those "fine in short doses" sorta thing. id like to think they do, but hey.
like one of those relationships where two people keep breaking up and getting together seemingly perpetually.
I would hope they'd be more mature and start to understand each other better. I know it's just a strip, but that's what I would want to happen
yeah, but i could see a really good author making it work either way
I guess the thing that bothered me about the comment is why Calvin not wanting to play house and leaving is a sign they shouldn't ever get together when they're older
I've been seeing those threads, too. Someone's really been pushing the anti-Calvin/Suzie shipping this past week. I wonder if it's a dedicated troll or a new schitzo.
I know who you're talking about, but it was on a different site and not the same guy. He just said that strips like the House ones made him wonder why it was popular to actually have them married as adults. Like they're only six
Oh, my bad.
>He just said that strips like the House ones made him wonder why it was popular to actually have them married as adults. Like they're only six
I went to college in a very small Kansas town in which everybody knew each other and most people went to the same church. The senior pastor had a daughter who was the same age as the children's pastor's son (which was around 4th grade at the time). Not only were they the kids of two of the most well-respected individuals in the community, but they also both happened to be very outgoing and participated in sports, extracurriculars, and college stage productions.
At the time, I volunteered in the children's ministry at church, and occasionally I'd hear other kids make comments about them becoming a couple, but I heard a few adults openly ship them, too.
I get it -- the idea's cute, and they're great kids, but it's pretty messed up to gossip about a potential future relationship between 10-year-olds, especially in a small town where gossip is inherently rampant. They're already living under the pressure of being known for their high-profile parents; don't add to it by making them characters in a romance drama.
I mean I would obviously never do that with real life kids, but the comic strip almost seems to invite the reader to imagine them as a couple when they're older and more mature, what with Calvin sending Susie hate-valentine day cards, Hobbes constantly teasing Calvin about Susie, and Calvin's good side being in love with her. Plus Watterson's comment on how Calvin does have a mild crush on her.
Oh, for sure. I've been reading C&H since I was seven, and I always saw Calvin/Suzie as the natural endgame.
The "they're only six" comment you were quoting just reminded me of that anecdote from my college days.
I want Calvin to have friends other than Hobbes 🙁
Why does Calvin have so many violent fantasies?
TV
the family camping one is really comfy
you sure about that?
>dat Amazon
So is Hobbes real or not?
Of course he's real. How do you explain Calvin getting the living shit kicked out of him every time he comes home from school?
self harm is no laughing matter, anon
He throws gomwelr pj the pavement
>He throws himself on the pavement
I was half awake again
I was feeling bad for Gomwelr PJ, too.
cute
Man I love Calvin and Hobbes.
My favorite stories have got to be the time he went on a camping trip, his various torment of the babysitter, and all of the deranged snowmen he built. Getting the hardcover box set was one of my favorite Christmas presents I've ever received.
Is it just me or did the comic become a lot more cynical around 1992
why 1992?
I think that's when Calvin's parents started showing less signs of loving him, and Susie just seemed to hate him rather than the love-hate relationship they had before where she would ask to play with him
>Calvin and Hobbes
>story arc
I mean, that's what they are. What should I have called them
Stories? Storylines? Just stop trying to make it seem like a serious book with lore and crap.
Ever notice how many times Calvin brings up the possibility of romance with Susie (like him out of nowhere stating that he wouldn't ask her out to the prom or the strip where he promised he wouldn't ask her out on a date)?
That's the whole point, it's classic "girls are gross" little boy behavior hiding an actual crush even he doesn't realize.
Makes me wonder why there a ton of fans who groan at the thought of it despite the numerous hints in the strip other than they think it's predictable. Like it isn't like the idea came out of nowhere - even Watterson said Calvin has a crush
It may be precisely because it's already there, so what's the need to harp on it? The work is over, you're never going to make anything as good as Watterson, just leave it and enjoy what is.
Fancomics don't hurt anybody though
The one arc about Calvin trying to play baseball was so fricking depressing.
I like how Calvin was so honest to Susie about why he didn't like sports and that Susie wasn't even sarcastic with him on it.
I love the idea that Calvin never really loses his imagination, he feels like the kind of kid who wouldn't grow out of it. I bet he'd grow up to be a writer or a painter or something.
Maybe he grows up to be a cartoonist
I wonder what Watterson himself might think of these.
>I’m assuming you’ve gotten wind of people animating your strip for YouTube? Did you ever mimic cartoonists you admired before finding your own style?
>Every artist learns through imitation, but I rather doubt the aim of these things is artistic development. I assume they’re either homages or satiric riffs, and are not intended to be taken too seriously as works in their own right. Otherwise I should be talking to a copyright lawyer.
Probably not at all
Would he really feel that way about a few what-if strips that aren't for profit?
This isn't someone using Calvin and Hobbes for profit. Its people who created adult versions with a cute child name Bacon. And Calvin kept Hobbes all those years to give to his daughter. So Calvin can have adventures again and give insight into life. Plus his daughter gets to have a pet tiger so all her friends would be mad jelly. DID YOUR DAD GIVE YOU HIS PET TIGER SINCE CHILDHOOD TO WATCH OVER LOVE TEACH YOU STUFF AND GO ON COOL LONG ADVENTURES WITH? NO I THINK NOT! CAUSE YOUR DADS NOT COOL LIKE MY DAD. I bet he would find these cute and wholesome as long as its just random art and not someone being an attention prostitute using the IP for their own person selfish and profittable means. As for animating stuff, I bet if someone made something that was just absolutely stunning with a mix of animation styles while keeping the ink brush for charictuers animating them rather well. No profit was being made from the flash/mp4 and the person behind was not using C&H for their own gains but rather wholey out of love and passion. He would totally be very happy and flattered. Same goes with if a bunch of kids/teens/young adults did a massive animation collabe. With like 20+ people animating a bunch of random comic pages in a billion diffrent styles. For lets say its 40th aniversery ending the animation with WE LOVE YOU WATTERSON YOU'RE OUR INSPERATION FOR BECOMING ARTISTS AND WE LOVE CALVIN AND HOBBES YOU MADE HISTORY THANK YOU FOR NOT SELLING OUT ps ;-; plznosueus. Its flattering and nice maybe even talk about the project giving his insight and clarity on how he views people creating calvin and hobbes stuff. That you know if its not Calvin pissing or those god awful robot chicken """skits""" or using Calvin and Hobbes as a political piece* or for farming likes&profits.
Its purely out of passion and love of course he likes it. And is happy even now young artists love the work he created as well as the ethics he inspires artists to follow in his footsteps.
I understand his inclination to protect the Calvin and Hobbes image given how soulless everything is in the entertainment world today but it's really weird to be this way about fan works not looking for profit
He also really looks down on any comic with violence and sex
People want to see more from Bill Watterson and fan art is the most anyone can do. Bill's take here is incredibly cynical.
Can we go one thread without bringing up fan comics?
I may post more just to spite you
I liked the fan comics. I would welcome more to be posted.
I like how in these strips Bacon's a perfect combination of both Calvin and Susie
are there any of her interacting with her grandparents?
Unfortunately no. There's another comic where they have twins and they interact with them, but it's not nearly as good. I'll still post it regardless
Found one in better quality
On the bright side we get milf Rosalyn
I think an old cartoon based on this strip could've been loveable and cool but I still respect Waterson for keeping a leesh on his own work, even if it was super tight.
>Amazing!
.
this is poo poo
What's wrong with jt
Idk about story arc but pic related is my favorite strip, shit cracks me up
I love when Hobbes acts silly just to troll.
this works though
most hiccup cures are about distracting you from having hiccups long enough to forget you had them
Hobbes in a smock looks so cute
This is mine. Of all of Watterson's "commentary" strips this one is my favorite, it hits a lot different after a few years of grad school.
it's crazy how hard nedroid ripped his comedic style from c&h
KEKKKKK massive icicles dong staring straight into her soul and the balls the big huge white fluffy balls have faces on them. FACES OF PURE LUST FACES SHE RECOGNISES THESE FACES ONE IS MALE ONE IS FEMALE. Every time they have sex from this day on she checks under the bed the closet all around the room locks the door checks it twice and had a latch installed so there is two locks inb4 ANON WHY THE FRICK DID YOU RUIN THIS POST WITH YOUR MAGICAL REALM SHIT, this is something Calvin would totally do as a kid but be completely and utterly repulsed by the act but unable to stop looking. Arguing with Hobbes as to wtf is happening He'd ask his parents in the worst scenario why do you two fight so much and hard in the bed at night MOM why do you like dad beating you so much. Dad... why do you sweat so much&hard repeatedly asking mom if she likes being hit so much asking if she likes it harder. As they are both completely terrified stunned confused have no idea wtf to say or even how,why,when and pray to god this only happened once. As they Bert stared at Calvin their brains fried unable to answer the question. As hobbes buts in as Calvin is about to speak "Calvin somethings are best left unspoken about and some knowledge is best left unshared. This is one of those scenarios, look at what you've done to your parents you broke them Calvin now we have to reset their brains do you know how dangerous and hard this is? QUICK GO GET THESE ITEMS "No lets decorate them instead Hobbes"
These bacon&hobbes comics are cute, the artists do a really good job making them so wholesome. BUT B B U T, the art is always shit and digital trash. I'd love to see someone(with real talent) make some comics with brush and ink and if it is with colour. To follow the trad colour options that newspaper was able to do back then including a few comics pre 92? where there was less colours and options how to colourize the page.
It would be ludo as fug.
Yeah I know they're from 9gag, but the original was on deviantart and they seem to be gone now
Didn't Walters allready do this joke? It's kinda boring to recycle his jokes aswell.
That's why I said that these comics are pretty bad. I definitely think Bacon and Hobbes is better since in those they aren't just reusing the same jokes from the strip
How is Susie so patient and willing to try and be one friends with him despite everything?
Maybe she has few friends just like Calvin
was just about to explain why because i had an butthole neighbor who was a douchebag i was always going over to and shit, and now that i think about it, i dont know why. he was a little shit
Spaceman Spiff stuff was good. As was all the storylines with the Babysitter.
But the most based character is Calvin's dad.
I've begun to say "it builds character" unironically when people complain about inconveniences.
>Verification not required.
That's a good one
I love the little hints that Calvin gets his screwball troublemaker side from his mom.
God damn I love how Waterson draws those exaggerates face.
calvin was BUILT for BTC (big tiger wiener)
>bills coming BACK
>to make a political comic
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I heard The Mysteries wasn't political (and also not that great)
I just got Mysteries for $11
and it was kindof lame
I wouldn't pay a penny more than that, and honestly the best thing I can say about it is buying it gave the copy of Shin Megami Tensei 3 HD remaster I really wanted to order free shipping
What was wrong with it?
>It was really short
>the art, the thing I wanted it for isn't drawings, it's clay sculptures. Neat I guess, but they aren't especially appealing sculptures
>the story is more or less "the mysteries actually aren't so bad but we aren't going to tell you what the mysteries are and you can hypothesize about them and the mysteries lived happily ever after, whoa man how subversive!"
You don't need to lie just to bump the thread.
honestly had no idea if was true or not, just that some anon posted that like a few years ago
Everyone sucks Watterson;s dick too much and act like the last 100 years of cartooning didn't exit
t. Berke Breathed
I thought he liked Calvin and Hobbes
Why was Calvin so obsessed with shit like Satanism? Is he a lost cause?
No he's just a massive contrarian.
calvin strikes me as the dude who would go vegan for like 8 hours just because its "against the grain", tell all his friends and family hes fully in and then give up as soon as he gets hungry and sees a cheeseburger in an advertisement.
I'm reading it for the first ever time after getting the complete set in October. I'm only on the second book, but I'm really excited to get to the Sunday strips where he had less restrictions. I'm not sure I can pick a favourite yet.
Nice
Softcover or the bougie hardcover edition?
Softcover. I'm glad it's still bound well with nice paper.
one of the things that makes this greatest of all time for me is that i started reading this as a 5 year old, i learned to read on this shit, and id re-read it every 5 years or so, the exact same comic and find something different, funny. first its just haha funny tiger knocks calvin over, then its "oh calvins actually the wrong one here" and then 15 years later the comics with calvins parents suddenly become a WHOLE lot funnier.
like 6 months ago i randomly found 5 of the books in literally mint condition, dated 90 to 93 printing dates. not even creased or bent, as if the guy who owned them had not even read the things, ever. the ONLY "flaw" was they used that clear book cover stuff on it to protect it, which as far as im concerned, isnt a problem. that shit is immaculate. 5 bucks per book. one of the most intense "politely, but quickly walking straight the the cashier" moments ive had.
Calvin/Susie is just Ranma/Akane
>calvin and hobbes
>1985
>ranma
>1987
That means Takahashi ripped off Bill Watterson
yep
>OP talks about favorite story arcs
>thread devolves into shipping
Why are you people like this?
It's not my fault that Watterson hints at it a lot in the comic
Why don't you tell is your favorite arc or strip then
The fancomics aren't bad but they're wayyyyy too sappy and shippy.
Even Bacon and Hobbes?
>Calvin and Susie are married
Especially Bacon and Hobbes
Excuse me, Bacon is the kid’s name and not the tiger’s? Who the frick names their kid Bacon?
Maybe Bacon is a nickname
Probably a reference to Francis Bacon the Philosopher except Calvin worked because John Calvin was a Theologian but Calvin can still be a man's first name
Long way to say you like to think his full name is Calvin Bacon…?
How about Francine as her real name
What do you mean shippy?
It's internet slang, shipping means supporting a cartoon couple hooking up. Those comics are too centered on Calvin and Susie being married.
>Those comics are too centered on Calvin and Susie being married.
There's a difference between a premise and a focus. The focus is on Bacon, as Calvin's kid, and Hobbes, as a continuation of the original comic. Calvin and Suzie being married is incidental and is merely an explanation how Calvin had a kid, which is a plausible conclusion to their childhood relationship in the comics.
Frick it, I'm posting my favorite Calvin/Susie fanfiction
ao3 works/941489
I remember reading that one back in the day. Good taste, Anon.
Kinda reminds me of a story posted here a while back.
What would it take to actually get Calvin to change?
This is my favorite strip
I think if given the tolls and opportunity, Calvin would try to kill someone
>tools and opportunity
currently rereading C&H, i noticed that my favorite comics are those with calvin and his dad talking
the "lol girls are gross" and "calvin hates certain food" jokes got boring pretty quickly, especially the former
Watterson's later stuff gets better, when I reread the complete collection I noticed I generally liked the second and third books more than the first one
>the second and third books
I've been meaning to ask. What's the better complete collection? There's a release with 3 books inside and one with 4.
I was only aware of the four-volume one.
There's more than one complete collection?
Definitely the one with three books, that's the hardcover edition and they're the nicest quality books out of any books I own. Even nicer than the Berserk deluxe editions.
i've read books 1-8 by now and all of them were a somewhat mixed bag (with more good than bad stuff) outside of book 8 which i enjoyed almost in its entirety
The "Stan Spillone" comics or whatever his neo-noir detective persona is called are peak C&H
You mean Tracer Bullet?
It always bothers me how Calvin's dad will never try to play along with stuff like his time travel adventures or that mask Calvin made for his dad to protect Hobbes l, and instead chooses to be dismissive
Do you all think this ship makes Watterson angry as frick?
Why would it make me angry?
I don't know, maybe he'd consider it weird or unrealistic that childhood frenemies eventually mature and get together
I don't think he'd consider it weird. However, he was always kinda rigid about how Calvin and Hobbes were used. It sounds like he wants them to stay retired, and he's not particularly excited about fans playing with them.
Huh, that last line would be interesting. I wonder if he'd actually give his blessing to a female cartoonist he respects to do a C&H strip from Susie's POV if there was serious interest in doing it.
how about a dark one from the perspective of moe, calvins bully. broken home horror shit
>innocent thing but FRICKED UP
Literally the most boring midwit take on anything.
But it would be funny to have Moe's POV and it turns out he's actually a nice kid, it's Calvin who's the butthole because...well, Calvin IS an butthole. Maybe Moe and Susie and all the other kids see him as the weird aggressive bully that he is, and all his "antics" are bullshit he inflicts on others.
>innocent but FRICKED UP is midwit!
>proceeds to make a decent idea with it it
come on bro
>Literally the most boring midwit take on anything.
>Proceeds to describe an even more midwit cliched plot
You're not helping your case there.
Hopefully. It wasn't necessary, but I think it was a better hint at Calvin's life in adulthood than any fan has ever come up with.
BOOHOOHOO!!
The poor bully!
I don't know if he'd be okay with a strip series intended to run for years, but perhaps he'd be okay with one storyarc or something. He has collaborated with other comic artists before. He did guest strips for "Pearls Before Swine", and he's drawn stuff with the "Bloom County" guy.
He's such a reclusive and private individual that it's hard to get in touch with him, though. Approaching him exactly the right way and obtaining his approval might require a miracle.
Yeah, and he probably shouldn't okay anything anyway. I really respect that he created a great body of work that said what he wanted to say then left on his own terms. People should just respect that it's over and done and enjoy what we have.
I mean if it was to make money or make a long-running fan comic I could understand why he would be upset. If it's just a few fan comics I don't really get why he would make a big deal about them
>me
Calvin teaching his babysitter how to play Calvinball.
Am I the only one who wasn't really into that Bloom Country crossover?
the whole thing
I want to reread all the strips, but with the various editions, b/w or color, with commentary etc
I'm not sure where to start
for me, it was the pissing on the buckeyes logo story arc
This comic depresses me
To elaborate
>Has no friends besides Hobbes
>His parents aren't attentive to him at all
>Probably has ADHD yet his parents aren't doing anything to help him
How is it depressing?