Can you comfortably say that Prospera is the best char clone to date? I personally think so.

Can you comfortably say that Prospera is the best char clone to date? I personally think so. Shame she wasn't in a better series

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    kys coomer

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's a coomer

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pic related.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          "haha I'm so much better than the people who fap and coom why won't girls talk to me IT MUST BE THE israeliteS"

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        moronic twitter word

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Godoy gets to frick this?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't say it... DON'T Say it...

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        BLACKED

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Evil MILF booba..... very PLAPable

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you please stay on topic?

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does she wear the mask?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      To talk to her daughter 24/7 and influence Aerial's functions however she wants remotely.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        So she’s every gen z kid’s helicopter mom that tracks their location. Holy shit am I glad I grew up with tech illiterate parents

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all.
    >Is a Char mixed a bit with Angel Halo arc Katejina.
    >Built like an Amazon goddess.
    >Husky sexy voice in the original dub.
    >She WANTS to be the mother after realizing she failed notJerid in that regard.
    Tomino himself already made the perfect r63 Char clone with Anoa. There's no need to settle for inferior versions.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >something from twfm is the best across all series do you guys agree?
    >picture
    the show is over you can stop spamming low effort tik-tok tier posts

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    frick her once and youll get permet dick infection

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do not need frick her Gund-arm socket but you could

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn't know what a condom is

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >best char clone to date
    >woman

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's tell more about most of the other char's clones than her tho.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      how did having a char become a standard in all gundam series?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's funny since all of Tomino's later Char "Clones" seem to like fun at it

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >make a char clone collage
      >char isn't in the middle

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        but Char is not a Char clone

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Char is the biggest Char clone of them all

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The show explicitly confirms that Prospera did nothing wrong

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gets defeated by kids, not Suletta
    >gets away with everything unpunished

    She dropped the ball hard in the finale.

    The best Char clones (namely Rau) have spectacular train wreck finales and ride off into the sunset in a bloody spectacle.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >spectacular train wreck finales
      In other words, asspull writing and characterization. I honestly don't understand why people keep defending that farce, other than "lol rau speech so funni xd".
      In hindsight, it's obvious that, since Kira and Rau had barely faced each other and had little reason to be antagonistic to one another (the rivalry had always been between Mwu and Rau), the writers had to come up with an eleventh hour asinine excuse to give them a final match, with all the "Ultimate Coordinator" nonsense.
      And then they did it yet again with Rey "I Am Rau Le Creuset" Za Burrel in Destiny.

      At least the Prospera/Suletta connection was there from the beginning in G-Witch, same as Graham/Setsuna in 00 or Zechs/Heero in Wing.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I honestly don't understand why people keep defending that farce, other than "lol rau speech so funni xd".
        We're not smoothbrained speedwatchers like you. Read between the lines. There's an episode where Rau summarizes the history of coordinators and provides exposition.
        His point of view at this time is important considering all we've seen about Kira's struggle being a coordinator in the EA fighting ZAFT. Sets things up for later.
        Then you consider early actions in the context of the finale, like pushing Athrun to fight his friend, whom is also an individual Rau wants dead.
        The final battle between the two is also pure sex. Almost as good as RX-78-2 vs. Zeong or God Gundam vs. Master Gundam, and easily surpassing the likes of Wing Zero vs. Epyon and 00 Gundam/Exia vs. Reborns/0 Gundam.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >all we've seen about Kira's struggle being a coordinator in the EA fighting ZAFT
          That stopped being a thing after episode 35. Also, Kira's struggle is about him fighting in the first place. The fact of whether he "belongs" or not in the Archangel as a Coordinator fighting ZAFT is water under the bridge after the start of the series, with Athrun kidnapping Kira in the Aegis and the standoff at Artemis.

          >There's an episode where Rau summarizes the history of coordinators and provides exposition.
          That's a clipshow. Nothing especially relevant about that, other than it being directly connected to Rau's testimony in front of the Supreme Council over the stolen GAT-X units.

          >Read between the lines.
          >like pushing Athrun to fight his friend
          This is called a "post-factual justification". You are trying to make coherent sense out of disparate elements because, in your mind, "they have to make sense as a whole!". Out of all the Char clones, Rau and Kira have the least developed rivalry in the series, so the story just plopped one in at the very end and it's supposed to be "thematic". It's hack writing.

          >The final battle between the two is also pure sex. Almost as good as RX-78-2 vs. Zeong or God Gundam vs. Master Gundam, and easily surpassing the likes of Wing Zero vs. Epyon and 00 Gundam/Exia vs. Reborns/0 Gundam.
          What the frick wrote this line? ChatGPT?
          And no, that battle is fricking terrible because of that atrocious, hypocritical dialogue and schizophrenic editing. The icing in the cake is that Kira "senses" something and he goes off to fight Rau instead of stopping Genesis, so the battle is forced to happen because the plot demanded it, rather than have it take place organically because of direct character dynamics.

          These arguments are going to continue if idiots keep making these pointless Prospera threads, and the even more idiotic Rau fanboys still come to defecate their excrement replies

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That stopped being a thing after episode 35
            At which point he stopped being a member of the EA. He always had a lingering concerns about why he was a first-gen coordinator in the first place. That he didn't confront his (adopted) parents in the first place at Orb is a sign of his cognitive dissonance, because part of him did not want to know. But Rau made him know.
            >That's a clipshow.
            Keep outing yourself as a speedwatcher. He goes over important backstory regarding the CE, the story of George Glenn, etc., that are beyond his simple testimony.
            >"post-factual justification"
            That they don't make sense in your mind doesn't mean I am being delusion. It means you lack the intelligence to connect the dots.
            >Out of all the Char clones, Rau and Kira have the least developed rivalry in the series
            No, because their rivalry is on a thematic ideological level. Kira's desire is to be a normie "who just wants to grill". Rau is an egotist who thinks he's special and wants to change the world. Genetics would dictate Rau would achieve even more in Kira's body, while if Kira had Rau's body he could just live a short life of bliss. Its ironic.
            Of all the Char clones Rau is the most focused on his "big picture" objective rather less so than petty rivalries like Char and Zechs. Moreover, Rau has an underlying inferiority complex to Kira since he knows what Kira represents. That's why he's so exhilarated when its announced that GENESIS will fire after Jachin Due destructs: because despite fighting the "dream of mankind" he would win in the end, and goes down smiling thinking he destroyed all Kira stood for.
            >ChatGPT?
            No, if ChatGPT would fill the character limit with some preamble about how its an LLM and has limitations and be nice/professional. I am not. Frick you.
            >that battle is fricking terrible
            That is little more than your subjective opinion; and based on your posts, you are not an individual whose opinions carry a lot of value. Many on this board disagree with you.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He always had a lingering concerns about why he was a first-gen coordinator in the first place. That he didn't confront his (adopted) parents in the first place at Orb is a sign of his cognitive dissonance
              Moving the goalposts, aren't we? Because you claimed that Kira confronted his parents in a different thread, a thing that never happened:

              [...]

              >He also hates being a Coordinator because it makes him feel aliened from everyone else, to the point of asking his parents why they broke the law and had him coordinated in the first place.
              This is the only time when Kira expresses any doubt about being a Coordinator, but it doesn't amount to much for his character until the Rau confrontation. By the way, it's a lousy translation: Kira isn't angry or hates being a Coordinator.

              >It means you lack the intelligence to connect the dots.
              It's not a fricking plow in the sky, you utter imbecile. It's a completely random set of stars.

              >Rau is the most focused on his "big picture" objective rather less so than petty rivalries like Char and Zechs.
              Because the "bigger picture" is usually reserved to the commander-type figures like Gihren, Treize or Jamitov. The enemy ace with a mask usually wants to beat the stupid kid on that overpowered Gundam. Thing is, SEED doesn't do a decent job with either role: Azrael and Zala are terrible villains and Rau was mostly disconnected from Kira.
              Up until the end (when, again, they came up with the Mendel connection nonsense), Rau was the mysterious enemy pilot commander had a direct Newtype rivalry with Mwu and was doing kooky shit on his own. His connection to Kira only exists when it's dumped as a retrospective in the end, but it wasn't there for 90% of the series. It's lousy, improvised writing that morons like yourself see as "thematic" and excrete pathetic defenses of it.

              >asspull
              There were close-ups of him smirking while instigating greater bloodshed, leaking info, or saying something ironic about his position in most of his scenes. It was obvious he was trying to screw over ZAFT as well.
              >Ultimate Coordinator
              It was referenced in the first recap.

              [...]
              >The final battle between the two is also pure sex
              >Kira bumrushes Rau while getting chipped down by omni-directional funnel spam
              No

              >It was referenced in the first recap.
              The first recap is episode 14 (original airing), which doesn't say mention the Ultimate Coordinator.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Moving the goalposts, aren't we? Because you claimed that Kira
                I had to look up that post ID on tbharchive, but I am not that anon and disagree with the idea that Kira "hates being a coordinator". What he hates is the notion that being a coordinator forms a significant part of his personal identity, that he should do "coordinator things" or "believe like other coordinators". Athrun presses him on it, as does the Eurasian Officer at Artemis, and Kira doesn't like it (albeit the Artemis officer was a jackass).
                But I do recall he wanted to ask his parents why he was made a coordinator, yet ultimately never asked them when they were at Orb. You could say its because he doesn't care. A better explanation is that there's part of him which would rather not know the answer.
                And that's where Rau "facts don't care about your feelings" Le Creuset comes in, and what makes their confrontation all the more glorious. Why?
                Because all those things Rau says about Kira? That people are ambitious? That if people knew the truth of his existence, they would want to be like him? Its all true, and its true irrespective of how Kira considers "being a coordinator" to be part of his personal identity. But in the face of that truth, Kira just denies it. That's the core of his being: Deny reality, assert his headcanon to be reality instead, while utilizing the gifts reality has bestowed upon him to bludgeon anyone who would try to force him to wake up.
                >It's not a fricking plow in the sky
                No, its there. Fukuda/Morosawa made things up as they went along for sure, but while they were writing the middle/end they certainly tried to tie later elements to previous ones. Its not as well written as a story by someone who takes the time to deeply plan the entire thing out from end-to-end, but the connections are there.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Athrun presses him on it
                And Kira's reply is that "my friends are in that ship and i have to fight for them!!1!!". His identity as a Coordinator doesn't weigh there.

                >as does the Eurasian Officer at Artemis, and Kira doesn't like it
                The flashbacks in that sequence tie it up directly to Athrun and his friendship, rather than any sort of blood loyalty.

                >That's the core of his being: Deny reality, assert his headcanon to be reality instead, while utilizing the gifts reality has bestowed upon him to bludgeon anyone who would try to force him to wake up.
                I'd say the core of Kira's being is winning without much effort or personal injury. What Rau claims is that Kira is the center of every conflict by his very existence. And it is this fact what sinks SEED completely as a human story. The writing wants to have its cake and eat it too because it refuses to acknowledge that Kira is a flawless character, despite giving itself the opportunity to do so (see image, and don't give me that "Sai moved on" BS). It's a form of meta-hypocrisy.

                >enemy ace with a mask usually
                Yes, that Rau bucks said trend makes him one of the better antagonists and makes him stand out as a Char clone. Like how this based anon ([...]) is correct to object to OP's assertion with Harry Ord.
                Compare them to one of the most boring Char clones - Zechs. Hands and destiny smeared with blood so he wants to drop Libra on Earth to achieve Total Pacifism, the ideology of his father. While its part of his motivation its mostly cope and he wants to fight Heero to prove he's not "one of the weaklings".
                Except we saw that before, with Char himself in CCA. Axis drop the ties to Zeon Deikun's ideology are all cope so he can fight Amuro because "muh Lalah".
                But Rau? Its the opposite and its better. He hates Kira but he hates humanity more. He's always had a nihilistic view and wanted extinction. Know that Kira exists (picrel is his reaction to Athrun telling him about Kira) does not distract him from this goal, but he does take time to frick with Kira's head by completely contradicting Kira's ideology to his face and explain how Kira's existence justifies Rau's own ideology and plans, in a twisted way. And its why the last look on his face is a smile, because even after losing a battle to Kira, he thought he had won the war.
                >Azrael and Zala are terrible villains
                Azrael I'll give you, but to quote Rau "what a disappoint [he] was." But Patrick Zala was a pretty decent Ghiren clone, considering he's also supposed to be a really bad anime George W. Bush. His interactions with Siegel Clyne are decently written as well.

                >Compare them to one of the most boring Char clones - Zechs.
                Zechs is a lazy carbon copy of Char, down to the "strayed from a sister living under a phony name". He's there to wear a silly mask and fight the protagonist in a red mecha. The core of Wing is, and has always been, Treize. Anything else is noise, a dumb distraction.

                >But Patrick Zala was a pretty decent Ghiren clone
                The problem is that everything becomes muddled together. There's no nuance to Patrick's character other than revenge and genetic supremacy (despite having a good starting point in the conflict between him and Siegel), and the writing is too chickenshit to give Athrun the decency to kill him; Morosawa claimed she didn't do it because of karma, but that didn't stop Okuichi to have Guel killing Vim Jeturk.

                Oh, and another thing: stop writing like some Discord tourist with idiotic buzzwords like "b*sed" or "c*pe". It's unseemly.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >His identity as a Coordinator doesn't weigh there.
                Exactly. To Kira, his coordinator identity is irrelevant. But to Athrun, its so important Kira should switch sides over it.
                As I said, its not that Kira hates being a coordinator:
                >What he hates is the notion that being a coordinator forms a significant part of his personal identity, that he should do "coordinator things" or "believe like other coordinators".
                An analogy can be seen with Cagalli when the Archangel makes it to Orb. The tomboy who wore short sleeves and actual army pants (compared with Flay's stockings or Luna's skirts, lol) outs herself as a Princess and when he maid comes a knocking to put her in a dress she ain't a happy camper.
                >core of Kira's being is winning without much effort or personal injury.
                But he doesn't care about "winning", as much as that the fighting "stops".
                But a core of Kira's character is the idea that he just ignorantly discard reality and just project his own delusions onto it, because if he was a everyman like he tries to argue against Durandal, he wouldn't have got as far as he did.
                >What Rau claims is that Kira is the center of every conflict by his very existence
                Its in a philosophical way; because Kira's artificial birth represents the fulfillment of a dream held by scientists like Ulen Hibiki which has its roots in George Glenn. Rau, by contrast, is a by product of fulfilling that dream; exhaust, so to speak.
                >sinks SEED completely as a human story.
                I don't agree with that because Kira's delusions are something every human can suffer from no matter what. Its ironic that despite "getting all the genemods" he still has very human weaknesses. And so does Rau; he's delusional about himself yet his assessment of Kira is realistically spot-on.
                >see image, and don't give me that "Sai moved on" BS
                I won't, because I agree with that.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >An analogy can be seen with Cagalli when the Archangel makes it to Orb. The tomboy who wore short sleeves and actual army pants (compared with Flay's stockings or Luna's skirts, lol) outs herself as a Princess and when he maid comes a knocking to put her in a dress she ain't a happy camper.
                Honestly, I'm not following your logic here. I think it's mostly because the "Princess" bullshit in Gundam is overdone, and makes zero sense in this specific context. It would've been fun if Cagalli had punched that old bag Myrna right in the face.

                >Its ironic that despite "getting all the genemods" he still has very human weaknesses.
                Such as what, exactly? "Being too nice and kind"? That's not a flaw, because it doesn't stop him from piloting the Freedom and killing people. There's no moral dilemma to him, no toll on his soul. That's what makes Kenshin and Vash interesting characters, and Kira a terrible one.
                Or "thinking he's not that powerful when he is The Ultimate Coordinator in actuality"? Get your head checked if you believe that's somehow a "flaw".

                >But I would note that much of the same criticism about Rau not engaging Kira much can then be used against Treize who didn't have many engagements himself.
                Because Treize, for the most part, had bigger fish to fry that wasting time in skirmishes against the Gundam Boy Band. That's what Milliardo is for. Rau, on the other hand, is a field commander and MS pilot, so there's little excuse there.

                >the problem is writing is even more of an incoherent and disorganized mess than SEED's is.
                Call me a hypocrite, but the reason I give Wing more leeway than SEED is that the former tried to be its own thing, whereas the latter was made to fill the shoes of 0079 as the "21st Century First Gundam".

                >I would also assert that Treize doesn't fit the Gihren or Jamitov role as that's more for Duke Dermail and Quinze.
                Treize is the final boss. The guy with the plan to make the world submit to his will.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not following your logic here
                Cagalli is a princess but abhors wearing the stereotypical garb of a princess. She's more comfortable in tomboy garb.
                >Such as what, exactly?
                Again, that he's delusional, and thinks he can "reject reality" and just project his own feelings onto it.
                He's a coordinator. Does that mean he should fight for the PLANTs and by choosing not to do so, he's a traitor? No.
                But it is nonetheless a fact that he got as far as he did because he was a coordinator. As the only coordinator on the Archangel he was the only one who could pilot the Strike. Because he was a coordinator he survived atmospheric re-entry after the 8th fleet battle (this is one of my older posts: https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21844626/#q21848854), etc. Yet to assert that he's a "single human being", an "everyman", as he does to Durandal, is delusional. Arrogant. Dead wrong. Rather than reconcile with this fact, Kira just plugs his ears and screams, even as Rau kept rubbing salt in the wound over it, which is why Rau is awesome.
                >it doesn't stop him from piloting the Freedom
                It doesn't need to, but we as the audience can relish the irony of the protagonist's lack of self-awareness.
                >Treize had bigger fish to fry
                So its excusable for Treize but not for Rau when he delegates authority to Athrun so he can plot how to make Operation Spitbreak a complete bloodbath?
                >so there's little excuse there.
                Actually there is, because Rau was pretty much ZAFT's best Ace (also ironic). He was also P. Zala's confidant and Zala's target was Alaska (Archangel's Destination), so rather than have Rau focus on trying to sink the Archangel en route, focus on how ZAFT is going to level the place it wants to call safe harbor which would wipe out a significant amount of the EA's fighting force.
                >Treize is the final boss.
                Actually it was Zechs. And if final boss is the criteria, Char, Scirocco and Rau are, not Gihren, Jamitov and Patrick.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So its excusable for Treize but not for Rau when he delegates authority to Athrun so he can plot how to make Operation Spitbreak a complete bloodbath?
                Yes, because Treize is a top official in the Alliance, whereas Rau is a field officer. Even if he had the confidence of a member of the Supreme Council, his responsibilities are limited in comparison to a general.

                >And if final boss is the criteria, Char, Scirocco and Rau are, not Gihren, Jamitov and Patrick.
                For the overall conflict, not the specific story. I'll concede Scirocco for obvious reasons (ie. Titans moronation).

                >GENESIS
                Azrael was disgusted by the sight of GENESIS and knew how powerful it was yet still focused on trying to wipe out the PLANTs even if it left him no "Blue and Pure World" to return to.
                >That's why they had to destroy it from the inside out.
                No, its because it had phase shift so even the Kusanagi's Lohengrin did shot. Not sure what a tactical nuke would do, but its the effort or concern to see it taken out, that matters.
                Moreover, one option is to fire the nuke down its barrel. After all the Justice's reactor did the trick.
                >You don't get how genocidal maniacs work, right?
                Oh, so he's
                >only good thing in CE.
                because he's a stand-in for all the /misc/-tards that have illegally immigrated to this board?

                >Oh, so he's
                >>only good thing in CE.
                >because he's a stand-in for all the /misc/-tards that have illegally immigrated to this board?
                You're replying to two different people.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Guy that said he's the only good thing in CE here- he's good because he's entertaining and his increasingly desperate measures reflect the desperation and reality of trying to win a war with people inherently advantaged in every way quite nicely. With how aggressively bland CE characters are, Azrael giving a deranged reality check about how nukes exist to be used rather than collected was a relative highlight.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the desperation and reality of trying to win a war
                If by "winning the war" you mean "murdering millions of innocents", Chinese-style.

                >how nukes exist to be used rather than collected
                There was a time when a nuclear weapon was merely "just a big explosive with the power of several bomber wings", but these days, nukes exist as a deterrent. Pakistan has them because India does.
                First Use means that your enemy has authorization to annihilate you by any means necessary.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we as the audience can relish the irony of the protagonist's lack of self-awareness.
                That isn't something to "relish", you dunce. It's poor writing of the lowest scale. Even fanfic authors get dragged through the coals for doing that sort of shit, and this is a professional production with a corporation and millions of dollars behind it.
                It's the same level of inexcusable as the bullshit in The Rings of Power.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Treize
                Yes, Treize does prop up Wing quite a bit, the problem is writing is even more of an incoherent and disorganized mess than SEED's is.
                But I would note that much of the same criticism about Rau not engaging Kira much can then be used against Treize who didn't have many engagements himself. I would also assert that Treize doesn't fit the Gihren or Jamitov role as that's more for Duke Dermail and Quinze.
                >nuance to Patrick's character other than revenge and genetic supremacy
                There wasn't really to Gihren either. Their strength was representing an idea and articulating it well in a speech that drums up their soldiers.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >enemy ace with a mask usually
                Yes, that Rau bucks said trend makes him one of the better antagonists and makes him stand out as a Char clone. Like how this based anon (

                op please
                dumb coomer

                ) is correct to object to OP's assertion with Harry Ord.
                Compare them to one of the most boring Char clones - Zechs. Hands and destiny smeared with blood so he wants to drop Libra on Earth to achieve Total Pacifism, the ideology of his father. While its part of his motivation its mostly cope and he wants to fight Heero to prove he's not "one of the weaklings".
                Except we saw that before, with Char himself in CCA. Axis drop the ties to Zeon Deikun's ideology are all cope so he can fight Amuro because "muh Lalah".
                But Rau? Its the opposite and its better. He hates Kira but he hates humanity more. He's always had a nihilistic view and wanted extinction. Know that Kira exists (picrel is his reaction to Athrun telling him about Kira) does not distract him from this goal, but he does take time to frick with Kira's head by completely contradicting Kira's ideology to his face and explain how Kira's existence justifies Rau's own ideology and plans, in a twisted way. And its why the last look on his face is a smile, because even after losing a battle to Kira, he thought he had won the war.
                >Azrael and Zala are terrible villains
                Azrael I'll give you, but to quote Rau "what a disappoint [he] was." But Patrick Zala was a pretty decent Ghiren clone, considering he's also supposed to be a really bad anime George W. Bush. His interactions with Siegel Clyne are decently written as well.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I will also add for context: The reasons why I say Rau and Harry are good Char clones is also why Shaddiq is a shitty character: Because all Shaddiq has going for him is "I am McGillis Fareed, but with dark skin and longer hair."
                Yeah, no. Saw that before, I want something with more of a twist. Giving them longer hair (as is the case with both Zechs and Shaddiq compared to Char and McGillis, ironically) isn't enough.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm somewhere in between in the Shaddiq/McGillis comparison. He didn't carry himself with as much grace as McGillis and was a lot less entertaining to watch, but at least Shaddiq got what he wanted with his scheme.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Azrael
                >terrible
                Shut the frick up, moron. Azrael is the only good thing in CE.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                No no. He was a complete idiot.
                One nuke. I swear. That's all he needed. One nuke directed to blow up GENESIS.
                Blue Cosmos motto is "For the preservation of our Blue and Pure World" - well the world ain't gonna be blue or pure if it got hit by GENESIS, regardless of how many PLANT hourglasses get "smashed into dust".

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >One nuke. I swear. That's all he needed. One nuke directed to blow up GENESIS.
                GENESIS is a gamma-ray pumped laser (an idea with actual scientific research behind it, by the way. It was one of the proposals for SDI). It works with a nuclear explosion. That's why they had to destroy it from the inside out.

                >Blue Cosmos motto is "For the preservation of our Blue and Pure World" - well the world ain't gonna be blue or pure if it got hit by GENESIS, regardless of how many PLANT hourglasses get "smashed into dust".
                You don't get how genocidal maniacs work, right? They don't care if their own side is destroyed in the process, as long as your hated enemies are obliterated. It's literally how The Turner Diaries ends. The planet is a radioactive wasteland with literal mutants roaming Eurasia, but it's all worth it because all the Black folk and israelites are extinct

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >GENESIS
                Azrael was disgusted by the sight of GENESIS and knew how powerful it was yet still focused on trying to wipe out the PLANTs even if it left him no "Blue and Pure World" to return to.
                >That's why they had to destroy it from the inside out.
                No, its because it had phase shift so even the Kusanagi's Lohengrin did shot. Not sure what a tactical nuke would do, but its the effort or concern to see it taken out, that matters.
                Moreover, one option is to fire the nuke down its barrel. After all the Justice's reactor did the trick.
                >You don't get how genocidal maniacs work, right?
                Oh, so he's
                >only good thing in CE.
                because he's a stand-in for all the /misc/-tards that have illegally immigrated to this board?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >asspull
        There were close-ups of him smirking while instigating greater bloodshed, leaking info, or saying something ironic about his position in most of his scenes. It was obvious he was trying to screw over ZAFT as well.
        >Ultimate Coordinator
        It was referenced in the first recap.

        >I honestly don't understand why people keep defending that farce, other than "lol rau speech so funni xd".
        We're not smoothbrained speedwatchers like you. Read between the lines. There's an episode where Rau summarizes the history of coordinators and provides exposition.
        His point of view at this time is important considering all we've seen about Kira's struggle being a coordinator in the EA fighting ZAFT. Sets things up for later.
        Then you consider early actions in the context of the finale, like pushing Athrun to fight his friend, whom is also an individual Rau wants dead.
        The final battle between the two is also pure sex. Almost as good as RX-78-2 vs. Zeong or God Gundam vs. Master Gundam, and easily surpassing the likes of Wing Zero vs. Epyon and 00 Gundam/Exia vs. Reborns/0 Gundam.

        >The final battle between the two is also pure sex
        >Kira bumrushes Rau while getting chipped down by omni-directional funnel spam
        No

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No
          Yes. Freedom’s final charge was awesome. So good it can get away with taking a direct hit to its upper chest where the wienerpit is and not explode, because rule of cool.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There were close-ups of him smirking while instigating greater bloodshed, leaking info, or saying something ironic about his position in most of his scenes. It was obvious he was trying to screw over ZAFT as well.
          I wouldn't have been surprised if the original plan/fan theories were along the lines of "Rau is a deep Blue Cosmos agent infiltrated into ZAFT, and the pills are to make him pass as a Coordinator".

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            That would require more intelligence on the part of the EA antagonists.
            That's one of my major issues with SEED: The EA bad guys are morbidly incompetent trash compared to the PLANT bad guys. Just compare Azrael to Patrick Zala:
            >Azrael: Ignore that weapon which can sterilize Earth. Nuke all the PLANTs now!
            >Patrick: Fire GENESIS to destroy their immediate forces, then fire again to destroy their home base, then fire on Earth.
            Or Djirbil to Durandal:
            >Djirbril: ZAFT has made gains in Eurasia after we oppressed them. Deploy the Destroy and have it commit wanton destruction of valuable infrastructure and manpower. That'll teach 'em!
            >Durandal: Twisted form of the Char/CCA cope with the Destiny Plan being about not being compatible with Talia, but played *most* of his cards right.
            Its almost a twisted form of the "racism of low expectations"; that the EA and Blue Cosmos should be free to take the first strike and try and commit genocide, but god forbid the PLANTs do shit to anything more than simply beat them back; to try and extinguish the root cause of it all so their people can live in safety.

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Can you comfortably say that Prospera is the best char clone to date?
    lmao no

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >This is your mom now
    How fricked are you?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      hopefully very

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OG Char - man with mommy issues
      >this Char clone - woman to help the authors get money from men with mommy issues
      We have come full circle.
      It's perfect.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Got any more, why can't she have such a frickable body in the source material?

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >moeshit
    Ever since Witch of Mercury I gave up on Gundam and started watching Macross.
    >b-but Macros also has-
    Characters falling in love and getting together isn't same as moeSHIT

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    op please
    dumb coomer

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this board so fricking autistic

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is there a board that isn't? Seriously.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        This one moreso than others

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You've never been to >>>Cinemaphile or >>>/n/ then. Cinemaphile can be cool, but /n/ is hell, don't go.

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the recent Char clone I liked since... Mask. I love the shot where her mask breaks when she saw Eri.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pure unfiltered SOVL Kino of the highest order!

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >char clone
    this b***h couldn't even be bothered to even get in a robot that automatically makes her not count as one

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite char clone is Macky

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    She's a Baron Maximillian clone you ignorant fricking moron.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      i see

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, she was a waste of a character. Didn’t help that her ultimate plan was giving her ghost daughter a second chance of life using a space station.

    This b***h literally cloned her 12 times, did she not think giving her a new body? A new clone body with her mind transferred into it, does that sound so hard?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prospera lacks context, an entire episode worth of backstory needed for proper reasoning. Currently, I have three questions regarding her:

      1. How did she create 12 clones of zero?

      2. What company did she use for Aerial’s armor pieces?

      3. Did she kill Mio’s mother?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        *Eri, not zero.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prospera lacks context, an entire episode worth of backstory needed for proper reasoning. Currently, I have three questions regarding her:

      1. How did she create 12 clones of zero?

      2. What company did she use for Aerial’s armor pieces?

      3. Did she kill Mio’s mother?

      She didn't clone Eri twelve times. Each bit does not have an Eri inside it. The whole multiple Eris thing is just a thing Eri does while talking to people with Permet magic for no real reason. Probably has something to do with just amusing the part of her mind that is developmentally stunted at four.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >She didn't clone Eri twelve times. Each bit does not have an Eri inside it.
        To me it's very clear that each bit is an Eri clone, based on that "Repli-Children" line.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          There you go, case closed.

          So why couldn’t Prospera produce another body for Eri’s mind to transfer into? Why not have her daughters live together on Mercury? Hell, Aerial already has twelve AIs onboard, she couldn’t develop a super AI based on Eri herself during her entrapment as Aerial?

          The frick is with this show ignoring basic fricking solutions?

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