Well obviously. The only people watching it were women obsessed with Chris Evans and he’s married now so they can’t fantasise about him anymore. Same with Loki. You need your lead to have the illusion of attainability for them.
Outside of Captain America Chris Evans doesn't have a lot of blockbusters. Who knows how many people support him these days.
Even if you ignore a lot of stuff Mackie has said, he isn't lead material.
>ho knows how many people support him these days.
Chris evan is centrist politically so he's an alt-right chud nowadays.
he made a documentary where he didn't attack republicans so he's considered persona non grata nowadays.
No he's not. He played in a gay stage play. He even grew a mustache for it. All actors do gay shit in some movie, short, play, sketch, or internet thing.
3 major sequences will be cut with reshoots apparently happening from January to May.
Outside of Captain America Chris Evans doesn't have a lot of blockbusters. Who knows how many people support him these days.
Even if you ignore a lot of stuff Mackie has said, he isn't lead material.
captain america was only interesting cause he was ww2 nazi fighting experiment ,and he still acts like he is from that era. that was is else he sucks.
That's a big yikes. The guys looks sleepy and gives zero fricks. Why are they forcing him on every disney project?
He proved to be box office poison, so what gives?
>Coon Captain America >Mossad character >Harrison Ford sleepwalking through a role in something he no doubt despises
I dunno why people wouldn't like it.
There's also >We did all the battles in CG, now have the actors act around them. >Filming commences >It's shit. >Okay, get the Pakis on the phone, all the CG needs to be redone in two weeks with these changes, and get a move on, we have a release date to make! >Still shit. >FRICK!!!! New plan. Make THESE changes. TWO WEEKS!!! >Still shit. >Frick it. Reshoots, then two more weeks of CG, then frick it, cause I get a bonus if I keep it under budget.
i always thought it was money laundering. i mean come on... >unpolished first-draft-esque script >bland generic directing >cheap unfinished ps2-level cgi
yet they somehow spent $200 million before marketing. how tf is this not all a giant scam?
>reshoots >reshoots >test audience didn't like it enough RESHOOT EVERYTHING >delete the movie the director gave the exects too much lip and the writers suck enough to warrant redoing it all over again
and then repeat this until every movie is 500+million in budget before even thinking about advertising itand like how others have already said the literal army of CGI pajeets needed to make the cgi blob fight scenes.
It's not that people disliked Steve. He's obviously Captain America and was going to come back eventually, but people were pissed that Bucky's run was shortened because Marvel wanted Steve back in time for the release of his movie. Bucky's run was really good and could have kept going for a couple more years.
Anthony Mackie seems like an alright guy so I guess it's a shame for him that this movie is guaranteed to be a massive piece of shit and a financial failure
Lol, the problem is they recast the main character with a racebait charisma vacuum no one likes. Good luck fixing that in post. You can't edit out your lead
>Good luck fixing that in post. You can't edit out your lead
Now multiply that by 3 and span it over the next half dozen projects. Congrats! Falcon is now Kang.
Also the fact that Falcon didn't get super roids like cap and bucky did so him just being a dude with a shield makes zero fricking sense because he doesn't have super strength or reflexes. It's like they just glossed over the part where the only reason he could get away with not having an actual weapon was that he was a supersoldier who could just melee aliens and robots and shit with a blunt object. For a guy with no superpowers a shield is infinitely less useful than, say, a gun.
Reshoots already? I'm shocked.
It's almost like a film starring: >Falcon >Sharon Carter
& >General Ross
Is destined to fail. I wonder if we can squeeze in a latinx sidekick and the serpent society. That'll put butts in the seats!
Deadpool 3 is the only MCU (really a zombie Fox) film out next year, if it underperforms then 2025 is oversaturated then it could equal death at the box office.
The problem is that they already kind of realized that they're running it into the ground but they can't stop because they have nothing else left to fill the void with. Disney has already turned every vintage film into live action. They already ran Star Wars into the ground. Their film by committee approach means no one with an actual creative vision would take it there so relying on original ideas seems farfetched. And they spent billions to acquire Fox solely to resupply the MCU with recognizable names so they kind of have to use those properties or else they just lit that money on fire.
It's funny how Disney acquiring everything was seen as borderline monopilization of the industry only a few years ago, and now it turns out they just leveraged themselves into what might be an untenable position.
I'll wager $50 that at least one of those scenes involved that israeli superhero. Most normies are openly mockings israelis right now so I doubt they want a two minute lecture from one.
I hope Captain Israel becomes a canonical character in the MCU. Splicing her into Iron-Man 1 where he burns Palestinian looking dudes to a crisp would be perfect.
>literally just the scene form iron man 1 with the terrorist but poorly edit to their Palestinian >then when iron man flies away you you hear a voice over >javis activate civvie killer mk.2 >right away man >women_children_scream_group.mp4 plays >fade to black next scene
Bucky denies the title because he’s white. That’s literally it. Oh and there was a black soldier who underwent the same procedure as Steve but was for “””reasons””” kept a secret and hidden away because he was black and Steve was made the idol because he was white.
I am not making this shit up.
Why white men would create a giga homie that could kill them all makes absolutely no fricking sense at all.
And the old Black person still comes off as a victim.
So now that capeshit is slowly losing its popularity among moviegoers, what will be the next movie "thing" that will rise up? I'm hoping noirs make a comeback.
I don't get the superhero thing of passing on the superhero title to a new character. I know sometimes it works out fine, and I'm not even talking about it in the context of it being racially-motivated, but I don't know why I would be expected to care about a new character being called Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America or whatever when people like those characters because they're Peter Parker, Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers, not because it's just some guy who dresses in a spider-themed outfit and shoots web or a guy who dresses like a bat and uses gadgets.
More people who like superheroes are children or autists who don't understand characterisation. They're literally in it for what you just described. They want to see a guy dressed like a bat throw boomerangs at bad guys, or a guy in a red suit shoot web at people. It's why Spider-Man has literally 100s of alternate spin-offs.
Why bother, this is bound to flop
Anthony Mackie is a charisma void and no lead actor
If they were this insistent on a Black Cap why didn't they at least get Don Cheadle
Well obviously. The only people watching it were women obsessed with Chris Evans and he’s married now so they can’t fantasise about him anymore. Same with Loki. You need your lead to have the illusion of attainability for them.
The straight female and gay man's "He's my husband he just doesn't know it yet" dollar is undervalued
Outside of Captain America Chris Evans doesn't have a lot of blockbusters. Who knows how many people support him these days.
Even if you ignore a lot of stuff Mackie has said, he isn't lead material.
>ho knows how many people support him these days.
Chris evan is centrist politically so he's an alt-right chud nowadays.
he made a documentary where he didn't attack republicans so he's considered persona non grata nowadays.
No he's not. He played in a gay stage play. He even grew a mustache for it. All actors do gay shit in some movie, short, play, sketch, or internet thing.
He “leaked” a disk pic to promote Biden’s run back in the day, I thought he was a true blue lib
You’re telling me he’s a centrist now?
captain america was only interesting cause he was ww2 nazi fighting experiment ,and he still acts like he is from that era. that was is else he sucks.
I re watched the first captain America about a year ago and honestly it's pretty good. Never saw the other ones though
Watch The Winter Soldier, it's probably the best MCU movie.
Maybe the story was just shit? Fricking moron
lmao, just give up at this point holy shit. Nobody cares about this trash any more.
>red hulk
>in a captain america movie
>cause they needed a villain with "red" in his name
fricking moronic
Yeah that was an odd choice, but we'll see how it goes.
people want chris evans not blackie dimeless
You think this N on my head stands for France?
kek got the reference
N means it's a map.
Kek and based. Ultimate Cap was too based for this gay ass earth.
I don't get it.
i understood that reference (see what i did there?)
I'm surprised someone actually explained it and didn't just call me a stupid Black person. Marvelgays really are a special kind of homosexual.
They dug up Harrison Ford for this one?
the wheeled him from the indiana jones set. dude need to retire or we might get a snuff film in the future
He's looking younger than ever. Probably being deep faked, died years ago
Those goblin genes poking through with age
they want the +50yo pussy audiences
That's a big yikes. The guys looks sleepy and gives zero fricks. Why are they forcing him on every disney project?
He proved to be box office poison, so what gives?
Aquaman 2 levels of incompetence on display here.
>Coon Captain America
>Mossad character
>Harrison Ford sleepwalking through a role in something he no doubt despises
I dunno why people wouldn't like it.
This is why movies are so expensive nowadays
It's one of the reasons.
There's also
>We did all the battles in CG, now have the actors act around them.
>Filming commences
>It's shit.
>Okay, get the Pakis on the phone, all the CG needs to be redone in two weeks with these changes, and get a move on, we have a release date to make!
>Still shit.
>FRICK!!!! New plan. Make THESE changes. TWO WEEKS!!!
>Still shit.
>Frick it. Reshoots, then two more weeks of CG, then frick it, cause I get a bonus if I keep it under budget.
i always thought it was money laundering. i mean come on...
>unpolished first-draft-esque script
>bland generic directing
>cheap unfinished ps2-level cgi
yet they somehow spent $200 million before marketing. how tf is this not all a giant scam?
the reason why movies are expensive is because they give harrison ford (a guy who is older than william hurt was when he died) 100 million dollars
>reshoots
>reshoots
>test audience didn't like it enough RESHOOT EVERYTHING
>delete the movie the director gave the exects too much lip and the writers suck enough to warrant redoing it all over again
and then repeat this until every movie is 500+million in budget before even thinking about advertising itand like how others have already said the literal army of CGI pajeets needed to make the cgi blob fight scenes.
>Test audiences gave Ant-Man 3 and Cap Marvel 2 positive scores
Maybe Marvel needs to find the right test audiences.
How do I become part of the test audience
Be close friends or family of Marvel employees.
Seriously.
If it was written well beforehand they wouldn't have to reshoot
Calling it, it is to delete Zabra and nothing else. Perhaps someone replaces her like Bilbo or a wakandan
>get a chimp to play Captain America
>no one wants to watch
No shit. Same happening with the comic books.
Wasn't it originally called New World Order? That sounded way cooler.
Brave New World sounds too "yaaaasss queen"
they realized titling the movie introducing the first israeli superhero 'new world order' was too obvious
Are they just going to assume nobody's read Brave New World and don't associate that with the title
How much would you bet that Ford refuses to come back for another shoot and they have to stitch together his role from the first round of photography?
If his MO is to only do dogshit movies he might as well somewhat commit to it.
If they can't pay him enough to come back they'll just CG him in. He's probably already signed off on digital rights after he dies anyway
They all did. Even after his death we'll have to endure him.
>hey kid
Literally, the eternal boomer.
>>hey boy
the novel's title is itself a reference to Shakespeare; at the end of the Tempest , Miranda says "O brave new world, that has such people in it"
Turning into a hulk movie seems like a dumb idea
especially when hulk isn't in it
I hope they add a scene where he beheads an old statue of a Confederate General with his shield.
Marvel can't stop taking L's
Nobody liked Sam as Cap in the comics either, while Bucky was a big hit, to the point some people were pissed when Steve came back.
>people were pissed when Steve came back.
Nah. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Real fans know this.
It's not that people disliked Steve. He's obviously Captain America and was going to come back eventually, but people were pissed that Bucky's run was shortened because Marvel wanted Steve back in time for the release of his movie. Bucky's run was really good and could have kept going for a couple more years.
>character named Captain America
>character named Bucky
>omg we need to save the wurld!!
All this corny shit needs to die
Anthony Mackie seems like an alright guy so I guess it's a shame for him that this movie is guaranteed to be a massive piece of shit and a financial failure
>CUT THE CHECK!
he seems like a fun guy. i missed when eminem was battle rapping him
lol I cant wait for this to be canceled. Who the frick wants Black person cap? Not even Black folk want this
Kino.
Lol, the problem is they recast the main character with a racebait charisma vacuum no one likes. Good luck fixing that in post. You can't edit out your lead
>Good luck fixing that in post. You can't edit out your lead
Now multiply that by 3 and span it over the next half dozen projects. Congrats! Falcon is now Kang.
It's got nothing to do with race but Mackie has that side character energy just like the Bucky actor does.
That's why his costume needs to be gaymaxed like it was at the end of Batman and the Falcon Soldier or wahtever that show was called
Also the fact that Falcon didn't get super roids like cap and bucky did so him just being a dude with a shield makes zero fricking sense because he doesn't have super strength or reflexes. It's like they just glossed over the part where the only reason he could get away with not having an actual weapon was that he was a supersoldier who could just melee aliens and robots and shit with a blunt object. For a guy with no superpowers a shield is infinitely less useful than, say, a gun.
They didn't even try to handwave it by having the backpack get some hawk AI and using the wings to catch and throw it.
They didn't give him super serum in the d+ show? I presumed they had to given your point. Just the shield flying back would kill him
didn't they replace the shield with a spear
You are spouting ableist nonsense. Black people don't need more super powers, being a minority is a superpower.
He is black
they are born with an extra muscle in the cav
I thought it was called New World Order?
They decided that was a little too obvious of a wiener slap
Reshoots already? I'm shocked.
It's almost like a film starring:
>Falcon
>Sharon Carter
&
>General Ross
Is destined to fail. I wonder if we can squeeze in a latinx sidekick and the serpent society. That'll put butts in the seats!
sam doesn't have a recognizable character
Is capeshit finally dying? I hope so.
Deadpool 3 is the only MCU (really a zombie Fox) film out next year, if it underperforms then 2025 is oversaturated then it could equal death at the box office.
>2025 is oversaturated
The problem is that they already kind of realized that they're running it into the ground but they can't stop because they have nothing else left to fill the void with. Disney has already turned every vintage film into live action. They already ran Star Wars into the ground. Their film by committee approach means no one with an actual creative vision would take it there so relying on original ideas seems farfetched. And they spent billions to acquire Fox solely to resupply the MCU with recognizable names so they kind of have to use those properties or else they just lit that money on fire.
It's funny how Disney acquiring everything was seen as borderline monopilization of the industry only a few years ago, and now it turns out they just leveraged themselves into what might be an untenable position.
Even the most cunning mouse eventually takes some peanut butter with warfarin
Yeah, they literally spent money on a super team but acquired no fricking talent.
If they think I'm going to pay to see black Captain America no matter what else is in the movie then they're in for a big surprise come opening night
Must be god awful for 5 months of reshoots.
I'll wager $50 that at least one of those scenes involved that israeli superhero. Most normies are openly mockings israelis right now so I doubt they want a two minute lecture from one.
I hope Captain Israel becomes a canonical character in the MCU. Splicing her into Iron-Man 1 where he burns Palestinian looking dudes to a crisp would be perfect.
>literally just the scene form iron man 1 with the terrorist but poorly edit to their Palestinian
>then when iron man flies away you you hear a voice over
>javis activate civvie killer mk.2
>right away man
>women_children_scream_group.mp4 plays
>fade to black next scene
>Israeli actor
Flopping due to zoomer boycotts, they already raided a Holocaust museum for Gal Gadot making a israelite propaganda film
I’d be surprised if they didn’t raid this one, I hope they do
How can Falconuse the shield? Cap has super strength and reflexes, Falcon just has a wing suit.
Bucky should have been the new cap. He was Steve’s best friend and completes his redemption arc.
Bucky denies the title because he’s white. That’s literally it. Oh and there was a black soldier who underwent the same procedure as Steve but was for “””reasons””” kept a secret and hidden away because he was black and Steve was made the idol because he was white.
I am not making this shit up.
Why white men would create a giga homie that could kill them all makes absolutely no fricking sense at all.
And the old Black person still comes off as a victim.
Just stop making capeshit. Literally how hard can it be?
So now that capeshit is slowly losing its popularity among moviegoers, what will be the next movie "thing" that will rise up? I'm hoping noirs make a comeback.
>Noirs
Lmao it's going to be video game slop.
if you just paid the writers and actors more this wouldn't happen
>“He would say, ‘Let’s shoot this piece of shit.’ And everybody was like, ‘Yeah, let’s shoot this shit.’” Mackie said.
So he wasn't joking.
>Blackton America
Gee, what could go so horribly wrong
>blackwashed character kills interest
wow. such news.
>Captain Black folkhit
nope.
capeshit dying is bad because when it dies anime live actions will take its place
the writing is already on the wall Netflix getting the head start like always
>captain america movie
>captain america isn't in it
who couldve guessed????
I don't get the superhero thing of passing on the superhero title to a new character. I know sometimes it works out fine, and I'm not even talking about it in the context of it being racially-motivated, but I don't know why I would be expected to care about a new character being called Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America or whatever when people like those characters because they're Peter Parker, Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers, not because it's just some guy who dresses in a spider-themed outfit and shoots web or a guy who dresses like a bat and uses gadgets.
More people who like superheroes are children or autists who don't understand characterisation. They're literally in it for what you just described. They want to see a guy dressed like a bat throw boomerangs at bad guys, or a guy in a red suit shoot web at people. It's why Spider-Man has literally 100s of alternate spin-offs.
Why bother, this is bound to flop
Anthony Mackie is a charisma void and no lead actor
If they were this insistent on a Black Cap why didn't they at least get Don Cheadle
He was fine in Twisted Metal.
Steve Rodgers is an interesting character with a cool backstory.
Sam Wilson is just some army guy.