>Just looked him up >I've never even heard whispers about any of his work
Yeah, there's a reason why he thinks art is dead, it's just because no one watches his shitty movies so he needs something else to blame other than himself.
might be the part about experiencing hardships and having perspective on things bigger than yourself. it's all fine and dandy making artsy personal films about your melancholic dull excistence in the suburbs but there's only so much you can do with that.
Dolan's recent failures with his films should be what propel him to create better work but instead he's refusing accountability and giving up. Perhaps if he hadn't been made a critical darling so young he could have evolved beyond a one note filmmaker.
>person who lived through various life experiences can create something people can relate to opposed to homosexual living in the suburbs calling himself an artist
yea, really grinds your gears why this generation can't create anything meaningful
might be the part about experiencing hardships and having perspective on things bigger than yourself. it's all fine and dandy making artsy personal films about your melancholic dull excistence in the suburbs but there's only so much you can do with that.
How do you explain the ones(authors/writers/directors) that dont have hardships, but are also good??
Spielberg/Cameron are some easy picks. I woulda said Kubrick too but I read that he was born in England before WW2 but he might have remembered the bombings so hes not a pure blood for the argument.
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None of the three you mentioned had instant success like Dolan did. They all worked hard in the early stages of their careers. While that may not equate with war, they all had to go through the hardship of making their art commercially viable. Dolan on the other hand got his first film fast tracked into film festivals and he was given a standing ovation at Cannes.
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Spielberg is israeli and was born just one year afther the war ended, Im more than sure in his childhood his parents/grandparents talked about the holocaust to him, up to the 60s most people didnt want to talk about the atrocities of Holocaust so israeli people had to tell their experiences to their kids, there is a documentary film in which a Holocaust survivor says "I was in the hospital, ten years after the war, and the woman on the neighbouring bed said things like how Hitler didnt do all those things, and I was scared, what if people will soon believe or forget about the Holocaust"
so yea he didnt live through the war, but just like Kubrick, he is on the border, because as a kid hearing the atrocities of the Holocaust isnt really a nice topic
imagination and curiosity. people do research, interview people, really go out there. People like Dolan don't research. "Mommy" isn't a real despiction of ADD, it's just about his mother. The movie ends with some fake law being put into action, because he couldn't be bothered to find out how you would actually deal with the situation real life.
you cant really go bigger than "life or death" on the experience scale. it doesnt necessarily mean you WILL write something good but it certainly gives you a new perspective and insight.
It's not just wars, life experiences in general will make a better writer. and most life experiences by definition, the ones that count for anything, are struggles. struggles to survive horrible situations, to attain things we need or think we need, struggles to deal with the disappointment of failure or the consequences of unintended success, to overcome soul-crushing loss, to beat an addiction or live right for the sake of raising a kid. hell, for some of us the struggle to just be OK and enjoy things without being eaten by the fear of inevitable change. you become human through the days when you're fighting with everything you've got. the easy days, the ones where you just exist - I mean, your body gets older, but for all other intents they never happened. there's no record of them on your soul.
>The Death & Life of John F. Donovan >It deals with themes of celebrity, tabloid media in Hollywood, mother-son relationships, and homosexuality.
Really stepping out of your comfort zone there uncle Dolan
Xavier Dolan wrote and directed his first film i killed my mother at 16 and has several awards from prominent festivals. Calling him talentless and inexperienced is totally false. He is a manlet though, and a quebecois manlet at that.
He was twenty and it could be argued that the value of his work was overblown on account of his sexuality. He was not a grassroots gay icon like John Waters but an emblem of the progressiveness of film festivals.
i think a lot of people misunderstand Dolan. You really have to look at him in the context of canadian (art)film as a whole, which has for the past decade or so been dominated by the frogs of the north. The underdog aspect of a quebec filmmaker gained him a lot of his fame, especially in his home country.
too much politics intruding on liberty and self-expression, too many categories, you can't just define a person in literally any way, unless it's very vague and logical.
Translation: >My movies weren’t liked by anyone. Critics didn’t give it a hecking high score on RT and no one paid to watch them. I’m washed up and I don’t want to admit that I peaked in 2014. My planet needs me. Goodbye forever.
>Cinemaphile shitting on guy for voluntarily leaving a israeli industry and living a NEET life
i don't even know who he is but good on him, i wish him well
Only watched Mommy like a decade ago when it was memed. Taking a look at his output since seems like he didn't really develop that much as an artist in an interesting way. Probably why audiences stopped caring about him and why he also stopped caring.
He is relentlessly relentlessly handsome.
he somehow pulls off the twink with a beard look
You are relentlessly annoying and cringe
>Just looked him up
>I've never even heard whispers about any of his work
Yeah, there's a reason why he thinks art is dead, it's just because no one watches his shitty movies so he needs something else to blame other than himself.
Gooby plz
>Xander Donald
unironically who
all Dolan joints are about him feeling sad and his mommy issues. even he realised nobody cares but put it into the most pretentious way possible.
Why is it that the authors who live though wars are the ones that write kino stuff?
might be the part about experiencing hardships and having perspective on things bigger than yourself. it's all fine and dandy making artsy personal films about your melancholic dull excistence in the suburbs but there's only so much you can do with that.
Dolan's recent failures with his films should be what propel him to create better work but instead he's refusing accountability and giving up. Perhaps if he hadn't been made a critical darling so young he could have evolved beyond a one note filmmaker.
It will probably do him good to fail.
check back in 10 years, he might be up to something.
>person who lived through various life experiences can create something people can relate to opposed to homosexual living in the suburbs calling himself an artist
yea, really grinds your gears why this generation can't create anything meaningful
How do you explain the ones(authors/writers/directors) that dont have hardships, but are also good??
Who would you count among that crowd?
Spielberg/Cameron are some easy picks. I woulda said Kubrick too but I read that he was born in England before WW2 but he might have remembered the bombings so hes not a pure blood for the argument.
None of the three you mentioned had instant success like Dolan did. They all worked hard in the early stages of their careers. While that may not equate with war, they all had to go through the hardship of making their art commercially viable. Dolan on the other hand got his first film fast tracked into film festivals and he was given a standing ovation at Cannes.
Spielberg is israeli and was born just one year afther the war ended, Im more than sure in his childhood his parents/grandparents talked about the holocaust to him, up to the 60s most people didnt want to talk about the atrocities of Holocaust so israeli people had to tell their experiences to their kids, there is a documentary film in which a Holocaust survivor says "I was in the hospital, ten years after the war, and the woman on the neighbouring bed said things like how Hitler didnt do all those things, and I was scared, what if people will soon believe or forget about the Holocaust"
so yea he didnt live through the war, but just like Kubrick, he is on the border, because as a kid hearing the atrocities of the Holocaust isnt really a nice topic
imagination and curiosity. people do research, interview people, really go out there. People like Dolan don't research. "Mommy" isn't a real despiction of ADD, it's just about his mother. The movie ends with some fake law being put into action, because he couldn't be bothered to find out how you would actually deal with the situation real life.
decades of experience in the industry, natural talent, imagination, curiosity, mild autism
Dolan doesnt have any of this, he is just a hack
you cant really go bigger than "life or death" on the experience scale. it doesnt necessarily mean you WILL write something good but it certainly gives you a new perspective and insight.
It's not just wars, life experiences in general will make a better writer. and most life experiences by definition, the ones that count for anything, are struggles. struggles to survive horrible situations, to attain things we need or think we need, struggles to deal with the disappointment of failure or the consequences of unintended success, to overcome soul-crushing loss, to beat an addiction or live right for the sake of raising a kid. hell, for some of us the struggle to just be OK and enjoy things without being eaten by the fear of inevitable change. you become human through the days when you're fighting with everything you've got. the easy days, the ones where you just exist - I mean, your body gets older, but for all other intents they never happened. there's no record of them on your soul.
Just a cope way of saying "I'm going to sell out and make some money" basically.
Just own it you precious little art frick
Some people just aren't cut out to be artists. Good for him being able to recognize that in himself.
he peaked with Mommy and was in the decline since
this, Mommy is his only good movie
Wrong
>The Death & Life of John F. Donovan
>It deals with themes of celebrity, tabloid media in Hollywood, mother-son relationships, and homosexuality.
Really stepping out of your comfort zone there uncle Dolan
I'm pretty sure getting rich from being a movie star could lead to new experiences
It’s been years since I’ve seen this dude mentioned here. I figured he died of aids.
*possibly a decade since I’ve seen him mentioned here
This. He's just a washed has-been who's not wanted anywhere
>You can't fire me, I quit!
Literally who?
>Talentless and 5'6".
Suicide incoming
Xavier Dolan wrote and directed his first film i killed my mother at 16 and has several awards from prominent festivals. Calling him talentless and inexperienced is totally false. He is a manlet though, and a quebecois manlet at that.
He was twenty and it could be argued that the value of his work was overblown on account of his sexuality. He was not a grassroots gay icon like John Waters but an emblem of the progressiveness of film festivals.
early success like that is murder for an artist. now all he has experience on is what it's like being an artist.
>look up his movies
>"i killed my mother"
>"mommy"
Kek
i think a lot of people misunderstand Dolan. You really have to look at him in the context of canadian (art)film as a whole, which has for the past decade or so been dominated by the frogs of the north. The underdog aspect of a quebec filmmaker gained him a lot of his fame, especially in his home country.
forgot to say that dolan was a figurehead in this french film movement
Villenueve is Quebecois and one of the biggest directors of the past decade
Art is dead, though, he is not wrong.
post article, homosexual. I'm not going off of your uneducated, laymen take.
also he makes a based pastoralist take
i want my llamas
>can't figure out how to google and authors name and a keyword
yeah sure man, OP is the uneducated one
I'm not expending effort for a Cinemaphile post
DOLAN PLS
I was looking for this, clear to see that only zoomer newbies are left
Post Mads reaction to Dolan.
lmao, i remember all those shitty articles about le cannes wunderkind.
He directed kino. Being in a Dolan film is now an elite club and there will be no new members ever.
I don't know who that is.
Some Cannes darling of the week from ten years ago.
Do a search for this guy on Google and under Movies the first two listed are 'Mommy' and 'I Killed My Mother'.
he's not wrong though, art died sometime after the invention of the iPhone and the rise of mainstream social media
What exactly is he referring to here?
he's gone full doomer mode and is waiting for SHTF
too much politics intruding on liberty and self-expression, too many categories, you can't just define a person in literally any way, unless it's very vague and logical.
Translation:
>My movies weren’t liked by anyone. Critics didn’t give it a hecking high score on RT and no one paid to watch them. I’m washed up and I don’t want to admit that I peaked in 2014. My planet needs me. Goodbye forever.
is this the guy who twirled the shopping cart around
everyone was like "he's going to be the next uhhhhhhhhhhh someone anyway I guess"
>Cinemaphile shitting on guy for voluntarily leaving a israeli industry and living a NEET life
i don't even know who he is but good on him, i wish him well
His movies are shit but his is right.
this is what I said when my artistic projects failed too
holy shit i remember the threads making fun of this guy in 2009
>I don't even want those grapes, I bet they're sour
oh now how else he's going to dupe hot men to have sex with him in his film
>his movies flop
>don’t make a dime
>critics don’t even like them
>”I’m retiring from filmmaking you guys. Art is dead.”
kwab
Go 'slop, go flop
Only watched Mommy like a decade ago when it was memed. Taking a look at his output since seems like he didn't really develop that much as an artist in an interesting way. Probably why audiences stopped caring about him and why he also stopped caring.
Literal nobody.
He starred in the French Canadian dub of the Emoji Movie, among many other things. I guess he'll go back to that and commercials?
https://doublage.qc.ca/p.php?i=163&idacteurfr=123
he recently dubbed over Anthony Ramos in the Quebec dub of the new Transformers.
Who?