Carol and the End of the World

Why is this an animation?
Why is this trying to be funny in the "generic animated comedy" way in spurts?

A live action actor can make nuanced expressions that would actually convey something during all the long pondering shots of Carol's face. Attempts at being existential and substantive are undercut by cheap outdated jokes like "look, naked old people!"

I was intensely bored by what I watched. I could see a core of real emotion and ideas in there but the chosen medium heavily obfuscates it. This should have been a live action short film or else just a comic.

I want to support it because in terms of content it is actually trying to be just an adult story told through animation but I keep coming back to it just not being a good story for animation...

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I was intensely bored by what I watched.
    Are you talking about the trailer or is it airing already?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's out today, I watched the first episode and didn't care to watch any further.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's a matter of animation being more akin to theater than film. You gain freedom of expression in exchange for losing the subtleties of a close-up film performance. This lends it to stories and styles and actions that are big and bombastic and over-the-top and emotional sequences that break reality and favor visual symbolism over direct emotion. With enough money and the right director you can have incredible and impossible scenarios play out to get across your message (Paprika comes to mind as something that really takes advantage of animation as a medium), but this seems to be a very personal and grounded story that would benefit more from small subtleties than big sequences.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonyrnous

      I've never thought about it that way, but well said. There isn't enough action, insane setpieces, or physical comedy in Carol to warrant being animated.

      On the other hand, I do feel the overly geometric designs and almost robotic character animation style help sell the feeling of monotony and routine that the MC is caught up in.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was alright there's some bright spots throughout the deadpan awkwardness. But definitely skip the surfing episode, massive waste of time I don't care what anyone says.

    6/10 better than Inside Job

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spoil the ending, anon.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the workers in the office go to Applebee's.
        The End.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But definitely skip the surfing episode, massive waste of time I don't care what anyone says.
      Yeah, it basically has one joke that drags on for 30 minutes. It might've been more tolerable if they moved it earlier in the season.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not watching this but curious to know how does the story eend? What's the big lesson?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on Episode 9, will let you know. So far I like it

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hate to be that guy but any fappable characters along the way?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lots of naked women but kinda of a ugly art style. I fapped to Carol's mom who is naked all the time but i am into gilfs.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >kinda of a ugly art style
            Why do so many American toons for adults have ugly art anyway?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon, it ends in a cliffhanger

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't end and there's no climax or lesson
      It just kind of stops

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a big fan of overly geometric designs myself (big nitpick I have with Gumball's later seasons), but I don't get all the hate for Carol's design. She's just a cute awkward older lady. Her, Mel Rodriguez, and that single dad she hooked up with all look fine. It's the side characters where I start taking issue. Some of them look almost grotesque.

    There could've been a little more restraint with how stylized the crew chose to go, but this show definitely doesn't count as "another ugly adult cartoon." It feels like there was a lot of genuine thought behind the art style, just maybe not the best decisions for the supporting cast.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eyes touching on a human is just offputting, you image is better as there's at least SOME space
      heck I've seen "front-facing sonic" as a meme a few times, so it isn't just humies

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's fine in stuff like Cathy. It just doesn't work here because the iris/pupils are goddamn enormous, which only highlights the bizarre eye shape in general.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      another case of concept art being vastly superior to the final style
      all I see when I look at Carol is a sad Beagle

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, that's kinda what they're going for innit? An older, frumpy, depressed woman.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >(big nitpick I have with Gumball's later seasons),
      The designs of Gumball weren't heavily changed since season 2 you moron

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Calm the frick down. I meant to specify the one-off designs getting overly geometric the longer Gumball ran. It's a stylistic trend that's become more common in French comedy cartoons, and I've grown sick of it. Everything starts feeling TOO abstract if you push it hard enough.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, Gumball's animation is mix media animation it uses different types of animation and therefore it has different types of character designs, you're argument is that most of the one off characters are geometric in the latter seasons which isn't even the case, considering they use puppetry, live action, and traditional in character design more than overly geometric like you keep spouting about

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was only referring to 2D incidentals, not ALL multi-media incidentals. The 2D characters in the show became increasingly geometric and shape-based, which carried over to later shows staffed with some of the same artists like Ivandoe, Elliott from Earth, or Dead End. It's not THE WORST THING EVER, but just a nitpick of mine. I was just bringing up my own personal preferences when it comes to stylized designs to defend the few main characters' looks on Carol. I don't find the incidentals as appealing. They're almost all circles and cylinders and stocky fridge bodies. Reminds me of Pinky Malinky.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Skill issue. Anything can be interesting when animated, but in order for people to want to watch boring and calm stuff in animation, it has to be pleasant to look at. This is ugly

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cinemaphile doesn't like this show
    finally have proof that Cinemaphile is shit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's better to be a guiding star than a burnt out husk
      what did you like about it, anon?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I presume you liked it?
        I want your take on whether it worked effectively as a drama, comedy, or both. I felt that they conflicted.

        I don't know how to express my opinion, guess that makes me an AD or something

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It makes you a moron that likes trash shows.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I presume you liked it?
      I want your take on whether it worked effectively as a drama, comedy, or both. I felt that they conflicted.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm on episode 4. Carol is fricking CUTE

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lame ending. Would’ve been better with a climatic moment of destruction and acceptance like don’t look up

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He liked don't look up

      Lol, Lmao.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cate Blanchett tho

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hey, I never said I liked it. Just that a similar ending would’ve been more cathartic

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not what the point of the story is though.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Show don’t tell. Less is more.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    pianist made me lol

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was Dennis in episode 2

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    shows like this are animated because you can get a lot of varied locations, setpieces, big effects, etc. for way cheaper.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want a masterclass in animated acting, watch this. Boring fat woman is not an appealing concept to me.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're not going to get animation like this today, I'm afraid.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        sponge bob

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was made by Carbunkle Cartoons in Canada. It's possible.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    She reminds me of a barrel eye fish.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >neckbeard

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can't read stylized designs
      ngmi

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny how you guys are all shitting on Carol for its art style but were silent back when Captain Fall was still a thing.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I watched that shitty Melancholia movie at too impressionable a time for me, and it turned me off from “What would YOU do if you knew the world was ending??” kinds of stories. I just can’t get interested in them, and in this one the artstyle and lackluster everywoman MC isn’t helping.

    I honestly think the main idea is more interesting when applied to an individual character with a terminal disease or something. If the story needs to compare and contrast other characters’ experiences, they can just have the main character meet other terminal people, since that’s something sick people do.

    Though with the timing of this particular show, I get that the covid pandemic obviously must have had some kind of influence, and the “we’re all in this together” aspect was probably essential to that.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the show makes fun of that idea. The point is that Carol doesn't do anything and starts a generic office job.

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