He single-handedly erased TRILLIONS of people from existence re-writing the timeline. Had he stayed where he was and took care of Aku in the future, all of those people would still be alive.
Cartoon's greatest mass murderer
He single-handedly erased TRILLIONS of people from existence re-writing the timeline. Had he stayed where he was and took care of Aku in the future, all of those people would still be alive.
>Cartoon's greatest mass murderer
Not even close.
These two are perfect for each other.
>Viscously kills his enemies with no remorse or restraint
>Always tires to solve his problems with violence and is canonically portrayed as a psychopathy
>Has literally killed the sun plunging Nevada into darkness until the hellish red sun appears
>Has a entire Agency dedicated to killing him and his cohorts which is managed by a superpowered being with seemingly limitless resources
>Just barely manages to walk the fine line between an anti hero and a villain only because of the antagonists being somehow even more malicious and chaotic than him
>Despite all this he only has a body count in the hundreds
>Even when counting Project Nexus his body count only goes into the possible thousands
>Is never brought up when these threads appear despite him technically being a protagonist and even killing over petty reasons like killing 30 people over a boombox (32 if you count the zombies)
Is he doing something wrong or does he just need to get a higher body count with a Thanos snap like ability that will kill a majority of the characters?
His feats are very city level compared to the others like Star which are multiverse level
They start out city level but in the later episodes of the series along with his actions in Nexus it's revealed Hank is almost always screwing up The Other Place and Nevada one way or another to the point of a higher power specifically targeting him. It's the prime reason Auditor made the Agency in the first place, although this is going pretty deep into the lore.
Sounds like a lot of headcanon bullshit to me
>headcanon bullshit
I sometimes wish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBx4_nn7APw
Anon these threads are about characters "murdering" people when you "think" about the theoretical considerations in a GameTheorists' way of trying to make out that everything is dark and edgy.
This isn't a thread about characters who kill and kill repeatedly.
should I watch this? I still can't truly believe a show can have a worse ending than SU, but everything I've heard about it makes it seem like the best contender.
The whole genocide ending thing is a meme. The actual destruction we see on screen is extremely limited and the show never implies there is much more off camera. The show does turn to shit later on, but that's mainly because it goes from a fun episodic comedy to being up its own ass in lore and ham-handed racism metaphors.
you definitely should watch it just to appreciate the ending
don't trust this guy
Can someone explain this? I remember dropping this show halfway in because it got boring, but she committed genocide? lel
>Decides to save the day by erasing Magic
>Except magic is more often than not sapient in this series, including a few characters who explicitly die, and the characters own spells who have a few episodes dedicated to showing their friends and family
>Magic is also used and relied upon by most dimensions in day to day life
>After this Star realises she wants to stay with her boyfriend after how many agonising episodes of shipping drama and crashes their dimensions together to merge together
>The world is shown to be in chaos as people run for their lives from the dangerous new creatures they where not equipped to deal with
that's fricking amazing, what a disastrous ending keke
It's actually pretty shaky how much she killed. She destroyed the source of all magic. This for sure caused 4 beings made purely of magic to disappear, plus the spells in her magic wand are sapient and died as well (being generous here, we'll say 1000s). So it's safe to say she killed anything 100% made of magic. But we see shit like dragons, mermaids, and floating talking pony heads survived so the scale of the destruction beyond that is up to interpretation. This is complicated by the fact that the show takes place in a multiverse, but it seems to be a finite one because there are few enough dimensions that they can be categorized by color. So basically whether or not she killed hundreds or trillions depends on how much you want to meme.
Adding on to this, while the amount of people she directly killed by destroying magic is unknown, the real disaster she brought was what came after in the things that
pointed out.
yeah, but people seem to forget that the majority of Jack's future was full of misery. Slavery, famine, etc.
>yeah, but people seem to forget that the majority of Jack's future was full of misery. Slavery, famine, etc.
And Jack deprived them of knowing a world without Aku by wiping them out of existence rather than just killing Aku in the future.
Wasn't Ashi's death was supposed to imply that.
Ashi is directly related to Akku. So she wouldn't exist
>Oh man, Jack totally erased trillions of people by changing the timeline you guys! It's not like they can still exist in the new timeline, they're all gone forever!
That's what you people sound like
They, can't. Aku was so important that his presence would absolutely affect who you do or don't frick, and when and how you frick.
>They, can't
you don't know that
I do know that.
Butterfly effect. Aku's impact on the world resulted in a bunch of people who would have never met getting together and having offspring. Go back in time and prevent WWII and come back with a bunch of people alive today being replaced by completely different people.
That was the point of Ashi and the heart-shaped tree at the end.
Sure, on earth and the local space area, literally killed everyone in the universe
Apparently many Samurai Jack's fans always skipped the opening and never watched Back to the Future
>it's murder if you prevent future potential people from existing
By that logic even abortion is murder.
By that logic masturbation is murder
Erasing people who are garunteed to exist is different than the expelling gentics material with no garunteed partner
>Erasing people who are garunteed to exist
those people didn't exist until aku threw jack into the future. they weren't any more guaranteed than the people that would have existed if aku never was unleashed.
And he also saved a lot of people who would have died in Aku’s reign, and their trillions of offspring.
So at least he’s 1-1. Star killed way more then she saved
Did anyone else not like the whole “You never killed a human before” thing? Besides the Bounty Hunters episode alone, Jack always had an absolute morality when it came to what life was. Whether it was a robot, alien, or something else, Jack typically considers them alive, therefore when he destroys/kills them he simply felt it was necessary.
So him having a hang up over killing a human just seemed off to me.
Another thing I hated was Aku “deciding” how to kill Jack. Aku has never had any reservations before with how Jack dies, and the graveyard fight showed just how much he didn’t care to postulate when it came down to it.
>Jack typically considers them alive
when?
When they start speaking to him
When he literally almost died to save a group of robots, or dogs, or aquapeople.
I mean real talk at least Jack doesn't have to look his cousin and best friend in the face at the end of the day.
It wasnt murder if they didnt exist in the first place.
Oh please, he's no Star from Star Vs.
The goal was always for him to go back to his time. He COULDN'T take care of Aku in the past. Wasn't the point of the future being dystopian was that he was not there to stop Aku from taking over since Aku sent him to the future? He needed to go back to not only be in the past but to save the future.
I think there would be some narrative merit in him being forced to stay in the future and pick up the pieces after defeating Aku there, but I don't really blame him for taking the opportunity to kill Aku in the past. I'm mostly just underwhelmed by the circumstances of that opportunity, but he kept the universe from devolving into the cosmic hell he spent decades in, where evil is law. Now it'll just be a normal hell where evil is law.
> defeating Aku there
Aku literally couldn't be defeated in the future since his past still existed.
Why not? I don't remember anything like that being implied. How does him being alive in the past keep him from being dead in the present? There will always be a period of time where he was alive regardless of when that ends.
I do like the narrative idea that since Jack loses so many chances to go back to the past because he cares a bit too much about what's going on in the moment, that the only way he'd ever successfully manage to get back to the past is if someone else dragged him there before he had a chance to even comprehend what's going on.
I hate how they make a big deal about Aku's men having some other dudes kill kids on some random planet but then have Jack pretty much kill every kid in existence. All his friends,the people that came to save him, and everyone he wanted to protect are now dead by his hands. All the sacrifices he made throughout the series, to save others rather than going back in time were for naught thanks to that shit show they called an ending. Frick that finale half of season 5, it ruined the damn show.
you're an unsatisfied spoiled little b***h
Your nose must be fried if you can't smell all that shit it spewed out.
duncare, titclinger. All I know is that Jack got a conclusion and if the game fixed that minor little problem and let Jack and Ashi be together, fine by me.
I think there's a lot to be said for erasing a future that shouldn't exist. One tainted by evil's influence on the hearts and minds of anyone who dare survive in this objectively worse future.
Also, its a cartoon. They can do the thing where everyone who's supposed to exist still does, and is better for it. That's what I'd do.
>time travel is murder
Brainlet tier cope.
Anon...
All those people and potentially a whole lot more will exist in the future that is NOT Aku
If this were sci-fi time travel I would agree with you since that at least tries to play by some sort of hard rules, but this was magic time travel where anything goes and nobody has to explain anything. The tone of the show treated him going back as an unambiguously good thing, so they're probably all fine because of some magic destiny bullshit. The last scene implies even Ashi's spirit lives on in some form or another.
By that logic all time travelers not named Trunks are worse than Hitler
time travel is not an act of genocide. marty mcfly didn't kill the previous family he had when he fricked with the past.
Those trillions of people were suffering in a universe ruled by a giant, eldritch, tree demon. Whatever lives managed to persist into the new timeline were no doubt better off than before. The people who got dusted never existed at all.
Time was willing to wait until the most dramatic moment to erase Ashi instead of her instantly disappearing, so really who knows what the frick is going on with the rules here.
This is what autism does to you
>Kid: I really hope jack goes back to his time
>Neckbeard: He should have coped and stayed in a garbage future because I said so
Yeah as a young, naive kid of course you want the hero to accomplish his simple, easy to understand goal. As an adult, especially now that you're old enough to understand the nuances and implications present in a story, you'll realize that things are not so simple. It's common sense to go into something with the expectation that the hero at the end of the story will not be the same one at the beginning and Jack staying in the future to 1) Let go of his past and protect his new home and 2) Have the foresight to understand that there is light at the end of the tunnel for the post-Aku future instead of giving up on it sends an awful, practically nihilistic message that if people suffer greatly in life then they're better off dead.
What precedent are you citing? This is coming dangerously close to libel.
I really need to finish that AU
Aku was an intergalactic terror on the entire universe, regardless of how many people Jack erased he brought many more lives into existence through his actions and thanks to him slaying Aku those people will live much happier lives.
The least the universe can do is grant him peace.
>He single-handedly erased TRILLIONS of people from existence
Rookie numbers, try infinite people in infinite timelines and universes
The comic did it better when it had Jack resolves to kill Aku in the future and raise an army.
The show ending is horseshit and directly contradicts the episode with the Shaolin monks where Jack chooses not to go back to the past because that'd mean sacrificing them. But I guess you forgot about that one, Genndy, you fricking hack.
The whole 'Jack stopped aging' thing confused me. I thought in the end he'd end up like that Viking dude where once his connection to Aku was severed he'd rapidly grow old and die.
Wait, how can Ashi send Jack back in time if Ashi was never born in the first place?
Same reason she lasted the weeks or months required to plan a massive wedding with guests from all over the world before she disappeared.
Tachyon particles kept her alive via chrono radiation. When it dissipated she vanished but the consequences of her actions remained.
What does it say in the fricking opening? He seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Aku. WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN TO EVERYONE LIVING IN THAT FUTURE?
I hate that Jack and the show doesn't spend one millisecond to even consider this because it's all 1000% about Ashi all the time. Jack's whole character and motivation became about Ashi. He doesn't give a frick about anything else. He doesn't even get a reunion scene with his family or a celebration because it immediately has to be about Ashi's wedding like that was the only thing he ever wanted. Not saving the world, getting back to the past, doing the right thing, defeating Aku. Ashi overrode all of that. Jack's entire character and soul devolved into being a simp for Ashi.
Jack is great.