>cartoons made pre-2010 were quantifiably more soulful than those after it
what went wrong?
>cartoons made pre-2010 were quantifiably more soulful than those after it
>cartoons made pre-2010 were quantifiably more soulful than those after it
what went wrong?
>Each gen is worse than the last
amazing.
>the reason I believe shows are generally worse now has absolutely nothing to due with nostalgiablindness preventing me from seeing the flaws of what I liked as a kid while magnifying any flaws "new" shows even if the older shows had the same flaws to a greater degree, I am very smart
I don't like new cartoons because they feature primarily child or child like characters and the animation always looks like it was made on Newgrounds in the mid 00s.
The cartoons I watched as a kid don't have those flaws.
You're sick.
He's right. You guys are blinded by nostalgia. And I was born in the 80s.
Can you actually make a case that the shows are improving?
Technology improved and corporations got greedier so effort went down. That's how it usually goes.
2015 was truly the point of no return
Christ. I'm so out of it that I've never even heard of anything in the 4 and 5 categories. I assumed all the crap from category 3 were still what was on.
>what went wrong?
early shows were about a new thing each episode, later shows i can name 3 that decided to go full-fledged pedo and introduce their 12 and under audience to sexuality
>i've never even heard of anything in the 4 and 5 categories
no one has, except for the occasional person on twitter who's willing to talk your ear off like they truly grew up with the shows and isnt a manchild, it's all for toddlers
I would watch a channel that is just gen 1 reruns + toonami/AS. You can throw in Foster's too because I love redheads. Also whatever that Johnny Quest lookin fellow is I'll check that out.
Everyone would. But they don't air things based on ratings, they air things based on crappy merch they want to sell to children.
>much easier to create indie content now
>many artists are opting out because of above, no middleman fucking with your creative vision constantly
>studios lean toward derivative work since it's more cost effective
>most shows are hand picked from calarts students, which has been on the decline for ages
>network television is on its way out
Who made pic?
Obama
Where’s my generation?
1992-1995.
watching nickelodeon
The only thing on CN in 1994 was Space Ghost: Coast to Coast and reruns of shit from the 60s objectively the best era, it was all downhill from there
You forget Two Stupid Dogs moved to CN from TBS.
Also the Moxy Show.
>still has some show nobody's ever heard of taking up 5 character slots in 2010-2015
>still no heather
This; did the Royals ever actually air on TV or was it streaming exclusive?
Each episode aired like once exclusively around November 2012 I think
What is this character? Never heard of this before
Robot boy
What do you mean there were good shows 15 years ago
>2010
You forgot the 8:45 shows
Jesus everything in 2020 is actual garbage
You reached the point where I was 15 years ago
I swear CN gave up on the 10+ demographic and now focus on 6 and under
Nah. Nobody under 18 watches Cartoon Network, and nobody over 30 does either. It's strictly college aged people with autism.
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD!!!
Just kidding. It really do be like that.
The most soulful show in that image premiered in 2011.
The best CN show was Robotomy.
It delivered on the animation, comedy, and didn’t shit the bed.
wait isnt that Destructor in the background?
I refuse to believe the artstyle homogenization has gotten that bad
If you told me all the shows in the 2020 category were fake/manufactured for the image that would be more believable
what happened to the BOLD OUTLINES that gave characters that late 90's - early 2000's soul
HD. No longer did you need thick lines to actually see the characters on a 480i CRT.
Boston. Everybody took a massive diarrhea dump on the mattress. Adult Swim should've known better than to play pranks on a city weary from 9/11. And Boston needs to lighten up.
Guys I think it's just that y'all are getting old. Back in pre-2010 people our age complained about cartoons too because it wasn't like the 90s cartoons that they grew up on and the boomers before them did so too. As kids we watched cartoons with a sense of wonder and curiosity because it was just funny/interesting characters doing fun stuff on screen and we didn't have any past experiences to compare them with. But as you grow older those stuff just don't bring you joy anymore and you go on Cinemaphile to sperg out about "soul" this and "soulless" that.
>but look at the shit they churn out today!
Of course there's gonna be a sea of shit cartoons and a handful of gems, same thing can be said for any era. Shit cartoons have always existed, you just memory holed them and put the good ones on a pedestal
>and the boomers before them did so too.
Nah. I remember my dad walking in on me while I was watching something in the 90s and saying "wow, cartoons sure have come along way since I was a kid". Of course, he grew up with Hanna-Barbera level stuff in the 60s. Cartoons today are back to Hanna-Barbera levels from that period in terms of quality. That's the problem. It's not that they've changed, it's that they've regressed. It's depressing to see if you're a fan of the medium.
>Boomer went ooga booga when he saw that 90s cartoons weren't black and white anymore, and didn't feature the same rehashed jokes from that era for the millionth time
that's the case only usually, we're in a unique case where things are factually shittier than they typically are due to retards and mainstream bullshit
20s cartoons have been an absolute disaster, gems my ass you're starving
I disagree. I've watched shows from the 70s and they were really unfun and I watched shows from the 90s and I greatly enjoyed them even though I grew with 2000s animation. You can definitely judge animation without nostalgia googles.
name literally one modern gem
Toonboom and other digital animation tools. At least before animators knew that the alternative to the cheap flash look was authentic hand drawn frame by frame animation even if it had to be digitally inked and colored. Nevertheless toonboom sold itself over the fakse premise that this was a software engineered for the purpuse of helping the animator specifically giving the false confidence that the the results are the same to traditional animation. They aren't and it notices. We've gone so far into the blackhole that even products created with toonboom are classified like traditional animation even if they're tweened to infinity.
CN went from the network with edge to a fucking glorified Nick Jr
Damn. This is why CN mostly airs stuff made 5 or more years ago
This just makes me concerned for the people who work on these new shows as an artist?
What new techniques do you pick up on? Whether it be the model sheets, personal tips from the creator of the show him or herself, other artists, even yourself.
What actual experience can you derive from it?
Because, after drawing these characters for so long your art style is going to be personally affected compared to before you started working on the show, and I can only imagine through working on these shows it's likely going to only get worse rather than better or more diverse.
Imagine starting as a storyboard artist in the '90s or early '00s. Imagine the kind of experience you could've actually gotten from working on those shows, all the different ways and techniques of drawing characters and how to draw them, etc, etc. I feel like that could also build up other traits such as learning how to design characters in different ways.
I will say, I don't know how any of this stuff actually works so correct me if I'm wrong most of what I'm saying and I'm sorry if I am. But it all just feels so unfortunate. This doesn't build skill or actual creative liberty & diversity in talent, this just strips it away and kills it.
Not trying to be a nostalgiafag but the designs absolutely suck more and more ass the further down you go
>17/20 good designs in gen 1
>10/14 in gen 2
>11/21 in gen 3
>3/17 in gen 4
>0/9 in gen 5
wtf happened
Which designs do you dislike
fucking christ and people still try coping that "calarts style" was a meme, it's actually sad seeing how over time the style variation gets more and more stomped out
>4 good shows in over 25 years
Why do people pretend to like this network again?
you got shit taste
dont you fucking dare shit on ed edd and eddy you cocksucker
What don't you like about the ones you didn't cross out?
Digital Animation Age looks way more like a dark age than the actual Animation Dark Age
Where is TTG?
It's like watching a loved one whose been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. They're slowly loosing sense of who they were, until it gets to a point where you don't even recognize them anymore.