World where some people in the world can do magic, but amongst those people they can only do one kind of magic.
But then there are special people that can do all kinds, like the big bad overlord who is extremely powerful. The book follows an undergorund organization who want to take down the big bad.
I wouldn't call it trashy, I was absolutely hooked on it.
Felt like a bit of a bait and switch with the protagonist but oh well.
Probably because getting caught is part of his plan. It only works because he’s engineered himself into becoming a martyr and briefly tricked people into thinking he came back from the dead.
If you follow the standard Hollywood formula, where the established male character is turned into an emasculated b***h, the whole plan falls apart unless you also make him a villainous schemer that completely bullshits his escapades.
Yeah, true. He had a real heroic sacrifice and plan without needing to be torn down and shown to be useless first. Wouldn't be surprised if they did that in an adaptation though.
>How's this one in comparison to second apocalypse?
Well, it certainly isn't cosmic-rape kino. But if manga/lite-novels written by a Mormon who insists on magic having to parallel physics with things like conservation of mass and momentum interests you then check it out, I guess. I think the fact that first book is an oceans 11 heist movie is kinda fun, but they aren't great.
I think that it's not the insane son, but the notByzantine prince which gets whacked in the third book
4 months ago
Anonymous
The nephew to the mommy issues incest emperor? I have no clue what happened to him, I totally forgot about that character, I should read this kino series again
4 months ago
Anonymous
Oh Conphas? He gets raped by Cnauir, tries to betray the believers at the critical moment and his army gets fricked up by the wizard who happens to be passing by or something. Then some rando beheads him.
Every kino in the last few thousand years has incest and rape, even Ancient Greek tales and tragedies, sorry your South American /misc/ brown chud sensibilities got hurt by aryan story telling
4 months ago
Anonymous
I’ll ad further, raoe and incest only make something trashy if the overall story is bad or if you can feel it’s being done to help a fat old israeli man jerk off to his fiction (grrm obv)
But if it’s in service to making a very good story with a crushing dark atmosphere then it’s not trashy. Rape orcs are terrifying
I wouldn't call it trashy, I was absolutely hooked on it.
Felt like a bit of a bait and switch with the protagonist but oh well.
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Yeah, true. He had a real heroic sacrifice and plan without needing to be torn down and shown to be useless first. Wouldn't be surprised if they did that in an adaptation though.
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I'd say decent fantasy.
>How's this one in comparison to second apocalypse?
Well, it certainly isn't cosmic-rape kino. But if manga/lite-novels written by a Mormon who insists on magic having to parallel physics with things like conservation of mass and momentum interests you then check it out, I guess. I think the fact that first book is an oceans 11 heist movie is kinda fun, but they aren't great.
Please go back to /tg/ with your shit taste, buzzwords, and "muh gimmick tweest on fantasy cliches" nonsense.
generic young adult rebels overthrow the evil empire trash, the magic system revolves around some people being able to eat certain metals to get different superpowers and others get powers from being in contact with metal. vin, the girl on the cover, is one of the superspecial ones who can have all the superpowers at once.
the sequel series is better, it's cowboys uncovering a conspiracy and doesn't have the hero as stupidly overpowered as vin
>some people have superpowers but the girl is special and can do ALL the superpowers and she's strong enough to overthrow an empire that has lasted hundreds of years with basically no training
It would be like if Rey got picked up by Kyle Katarn, spent a year training and was revealed to be stronger than average due to being a Palpatine in movie 1
Vin specifically has training and there's nothing special about her. She's a skilled mistborn but her greatest victories are due to luck, circumstance, or knowledge.
She is identically as powerful as any other mistborn in the setting.
Poor street girl who gets powers by eating metal meets and joins a band of good guys who get powers by eating metal, then they have to face the king of a powerful evil empire who has all the powers.
I don't remember much about the second and third, but the first book is a bit bad since the girl and the gang spend 80% of the book trying to come up with a 300 iq plan to overthrow the evil empire, only for the last chapter to have nothing of that matter and everything is resolved in a suicide attack by a couple of people
>And then era 2 or Stormlight Archive.
My friend told me Stormlight has a gay interspecies relationship with a wienerroach thing and constant mental illness bs so I never bothered.
Your friend might be reading too much fanfiction, there is no relationship like that in the released books.
It's not metal illness if they spend three books piling shit on the character, it's genuine PTSD. The dude can't get a second of rest.
Stormlight is actually pretty good. Cinemaphileanization will tell you all of Sanderson is shit but there's just assmad.
SL has a cool magic system, excellent character development, and a decent setting. Overall a 7/10 that will go up once the series is finished.
4 months ago
Anonymous
it isn't, you're just illiterate
4 months ago
Anonymous
True.
And they will complain about magic systems, even though Sanderson writes some of the few that actually make sense.
Sanderson also writes some of the best characters and point-of-view.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sanderson writes anime and it feels llke he's only writing Stormlight because he wants to have his own epic. I only read The Way of Kings, and it was already too long so forget six more or whatever the frick he's trying to pull.
Ignore what everyone else says because they're being autistic about it.
It's a fantasy heist story about an evil emperor who's split the world into a system of oppressive nobles and dehumanized workers. A group of quirky rogues with magical powers start a rebellion to overthrow the emperor. The main character is a teenage girl who has a rare magical power that makes her useful to the rebellion.
SLOP SLOP SLOP
UNIRONICALLY THE WORST FRICKING TRASH IN THE LITERARY WORLD AND MORMONS AND AUTISTS WORSHIP IT
IT IS SHIT SHIT SHIT AND I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT
STOP FRICKING STOP IT SUCKS IT SUCKS HOLY FRICK IT SUCKS SHIT ITS SO BAD
IF YOU COME UP TO ME IN REAL LIFE AND SAY YOU LIKE SANDERSON I'LL ACTUALLY KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS
THIS IS NOT A JOKE, THIS IS A LEGALLY ACTIONABLE THREAT!!! I WILL FRICKING RIP YOUR NUTS OFF
I WILL ACTUALLY LITERALLY RIP OUT YOUR SCROTUM IF YOU WORSHIP THIS SLOP IN FRONT OF ME
FRICK OFF FOREVER
This, Brandon Sanderson basically writes ChatGPT level novels and shits them out like hotcakes but people love them for some fricking reason. I don't get it, there's so many better fantasy books out there but people hyper fixate on his moronic bullshit.
>Replace the male lead with a young female lead who can do everything the male lead can but better
How has this not been adapted for the big screen yet? Is it because Kelsier isn't an established character like Luke or Indie that they an piss all over?
Probably because getting caught is part of his plan. It only works because he’s engineered himself into becoming a martyr and briefly tricked people into thinking he came back from the dead.
If you follow the standard hollywood formula, where the established male character is turned into an emasculated b***h, the whole plan falls apart unless you also make him a villainous schemer that completely bullshits his escapades.
>Replace the male lead with a young female lead who can do everything the male lead can but better
This is true but it's not that bad because they never butchered Kelsier's character. Everybody, including Vin, loved him and has fond memories of him. They would never faithfully adapt that part of the story.
Nah, it's just talentless labour of love kindleslop. You would be surprised how massive the middle aged business man self-published fantasy novel scene is.
>You would be surprised how massive the middle aged business man self-published fantasy novel scene is.
No I wouldn't. Fantasy always been a genre that's attracted masses of untalented hacks who are more interested in showing off their 'system' than writing a good story with interesting and likeable characters. If it's not the number one self published genre it's definitely top three besides Supernatural Romance and YAshit.
The problem now is that the legion of hacks self publishing are still better than what actually gets published these days.
It’s a fricking slog trying to wade through self insert isekai/litrpg on one side, obnoxious soapbox from someone the publisher bought a Hugo on the other , and blatant porn with a paper thin disguise wedged in between
Fair enough but it's still a dead genre with nothing worth looking at as far as I am concerned. The best fantasy writing being done today are video games which is fricking hilarious.
You’re probably right. The genre isn’t going to get better, not until publishers stop using residual sales from good authors to fund talentless diversity hires, which itself won’t happen until Larry is gutted and lynched with his own entrails.
It’s only going to mutate into different forms of shit, like when YA mutated and split into progressive soapbox on one side and shameless fapfiction on the other, or Tolkien ripoffs turned to edgy got ripoffs, which turned to litrpg.
I am morbidly curious as to what comes next, though. My bet is shitty westernised Xianxia, which is already starting to peak its head
4 months ago
Anonymous
>My bet is shitty westernised Xianxia, which is already starting to peak its head
Cradle was pretty good, but holy frick is Wight's new series bad
The problem now is that the legion of hacks self publishing are still better than what actually gets published these days.
It’s a fricking slog trying to wade through self insert isekai/litrpg on one side, obnoxious soapbox from someone the publisher bought a Hugo on the other , and blatant porn with a paper thin disguise wedged in between
I don't really like this type of fantasy but I have to give the author some small credit in that he admitted he only was published because he knew someone. His friend met a publishing agent at a party and introduced the two. Only way he got his book in.
You’re probably right. The genre isn’t going to get better, not until publishers stop using residual sales from good authors to fund talentless diversity hires, which itself won’t happen until Larry is gutted and lynched with his own entrails.
It’s only going to mutate into different forms of shit, like when YA mutated and split into progressive soapbox on one side and shameless fapfiction on the other, or Tolkien ripoffs turned to edgy got ripoffs, which turned to litrpg.
I am morbidly curious as to what comes next, though. My bet is shitty westernised Xianxia, which is already starting to peak its head
If you want to make it in online spaces you better be ready to right English xianxia, Isekai, or LitRPG dogshit. Goysloppa consumers refuse to read anything else.
Playing the Devil’s advocate, the reason that self published shit exploded is due to traditional publishing refusing to hire any writers that produce stories anyone wants to fricking read.
Despite being rife with bandwagon hopping hacks, self published/web original authors actually want people to read their books, rather than get as big an advance as they can for being a minority and then laugh as the publisher eats shit when their books don’t sell.
No devil's advocate about it, you're correct. Either be a black woman and publish garbage no one will read like black pink haired dwarven midgets getting drunk and fricking things (real book), or play to online trends and write isekai sloppa for seasonal anime homies. They may want people to read their books but they still have to play to consumer trends.
My wife loves these horny fantasy schlock books. Which is fine by me, I get the benefit. I've been reading them to capitalize on it, and man they suck. It would be so easy to write this style of erotica. I think I may do it under a female pen name.
To expand on that. The reason they blew up with women is the first book is basically beauty and the beast with katniss as the woman, and a brooding Elf king as the beast (and theres an evil witch with a curse and some ntr in the finale). Then the second book she has ptsd from the ending of the first book, and an even richer, sexier, and more understanding elf king comes along and rescues her and makes her realize the first sexy elf king was an abusive boyfriend.
Imagine if 50 shades of grey had a sequel where the mediocre woman got rescued from the billionaire by a trillionaire who was also a therapist. Throw in some random young adult fiction magic powers and you've got a woman moment phenomenon.
How erotic are these books? Qt mormon quiet girl at the back of the class I know loves these
4 months ago
Anonymous
I halfway through the first book and she has already fricked two different black guys. It's basically interracial porn.
4 months ago
Anonymous
First one is pretty bland, its more the long slow seduction and badly written romance then the actual sex scenes are pretty undescriptive.
Second one is a lot more adventure and action, both in the bedroom and out. They finally have a more explicit sex scene and some pretty explicit foreplay scenes towards the back of the book. From what my wife says they get hornier as they go.
If you want to hook a girl that's into these books, tell her you want to try the series out and discuss it as you go. Guaranteed to get her wetter than Vancouver island.
All my wife's friends go nuts that I read these and are very jealous of my wife.
4 months ago
Anonymous
dang I should've stuck with it, then. I gave up reading the first book because of how utterly dull it was.
4 months ago
Anonymous
They all suck anon. You aren't reading these for the literature. You're reading these so qt Mormon girl tells you which chapters made her get all flustered in her weird underwear, and you know the play to make.
Mistborn was fine (first book was the best), but what i really hate about it is the prose, specifically the quality of the language. i like my fantasy's language pitched somewhere around Martin's ASOIAF for example, i don't want to feel like i'm reading a fanfic on someone's blog
I remember after I was obsessed with ASOIAF when I was 16-17 I decided to read more fantasy and literally everywhere recommended this series and I got to the first scene where they used different metals to move through the air and push/pull or some shit and I gave up immediately
are there any fantasy writers on GRRM's level? I'm not even being ironic
>Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Sun
Excellent for expanding your vocabulary.
I remember after I was obsessed with ASOIAF when I was 16-17 I decided to read more fantasy and literally everywhere recommended this series and I got to the first scene where they used different metals to move through the air and push/pull or some shit and I gave up immediately
are there any fantasy writers on GRRM's level? I'm not even being ironic
The Black Company by Glen Cook ran so that GRRM could crawl. Try that.
Sapkowski's hussite series is ok, but it's more like witcher in it's tone with "haha humans are stupid and monsters are humane" bit. Still, a fun read.
The grimdark is pretty good, but it's pretty much "what if LotR but everyone is a c**t bucket"
Still a somewhat enjoyable read, with some based scenes (unfortunately Abercrombie gets blue pulled in the spin offs, he wrote one with a strong independent woman just to prove it)
>are there any fantasy writers on GRRM's level? I'm not even being ironic
Now, first of all. ASOIAF is garbage and GRRMs writing sucks dick.
And to truly make you realize this, you should read the series Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams. It's the series that very literally inspired GRRM to write fantasy. After reading it you will realize what GRRM tried to ape and how he failed spectacularly at it.
I actually read the whole book and it was a solid 3/10. The fey sex party fantasy, the self-insert rapist killing fantasy, the cuck shit, the obvious gay relationship with the demon apprentice. It was all too much. Anyone even remotely interested in this title should read literally anything else.
can anyone recommend good fantasy series that revolve around a male protagonist with minimal/no female characters and no romance subplots? no YA shit unless it doesn't have will they won't they romance crap.
The plot twists in this were absolutely goated. Man is never gonna win any awards for prose but goddam that son of a b***h got me good, and book 1 especially has such a fun heist movie atmopshere
That's pretty much my take on it. Very workmanlike writing, characters mostly just move according to the whims of the plot, but the plot is pretty good with some fun twists and surprises, so it works out.
As long as she’s cute, tomboyish, short and most importantly WHITE then I’ll be happy. Kelsier would be much more fun to cast. Needs charisma but also underlying anger/violence. So like Matt smith but more handsome and not inbred
Listen, sometimes you don't have the mental fortitude to suffer through the emotionally tiring slog a book like Deadhouse Gates is. Or the headache inducing ponderings of what life is for immortals that live for 100 000s of years is like in Forge of Darkness from the very mindfricking perspective of one of these insanely long lived dudes.
Sometimes you just wanna read cool action scenes that reads like a mix of Michael Bay and a shonen battle anime.
I dropped this series halfway through the second book because I got sick of all the unnecessary overdescribed anime-like fight scenes. Is all Sanderson shit like this?
give me a rundown on this serie cause I aint reading books
also Idrid Elba
autistic "fantasy" where the author tries to make the magic system logical and scientific and it's gay as hell
mormon
World where some people in the world can do magic, but amongst those people they can only do one kind of magic.
But then there are special people that can do all kinds, like the big bad overlord who is extremely powerful. The book follows an undergorund organization who want to take down the big bad.
I read trashy fantasy books while commuting to work. How's this one in comparison to second apocalypse?
I wouldn't call it trashy, I was absolutely hooked on it.
Felt like a bit of a bait and switch with the protagonist but oh well.
Yeah, true. He had a real heroic sacrifice and plan without needing to be torn down and shown to be useless first. Wouldn't be surprised if they did that in an adaptation though.
I'd say decent fantasy.
>How's this one in comparison to second apocalypse?
Well, it certainly isn't cosmic-rape kino. But if manga/lite-novels written by a Mormon who insists on magic having to parallel physics with things like conservation of mass and momentum interests you then check it out, I guess. I think the fact that first book is an oceans 11 heist movie is kinda fun, but they aren't great.
Kellhus
Inchoroi
Cnaiur
Achamian
Esmenet
Mimara
The crazy Anasurimbor son?
The no god
Sranc
Am I right?
I think that it's not the insane son, but the notByzantine prince which gets whacked in the third book
The nephew to the mommy issues incest emperor? I have no clue what happened to him, I totally forgot about that character, I should read this kino series again
Oh Conphas? He gets raped by Cnauir, tries to betray the believers at the critical moment and his army gets fricked up by the wizard who happens to be passing by or something. Then some rando beheads him.
Can ANYTHING compare to second apocalypse? that series single handedly killed fantasy books for me
Read better books
Like what?
Second apocalypse isn’t trashy, it’s one of the best fiction series of all time and they only good fantasy series other then asoiaf which is trashy
First 3 books have too much rape demons for my taste and 4th has Alabama moment in the first chapters. If it's not trashy then what is it?
Every kino in the last few thousand years has incest and rape, even Ancient Greek tales and tragedies, sorry your South American /misc/ brown chud sensibilities got hurt by aryan story telling
I’ll ad further, raoe and incest only make something trashy if the overall story is bad or if you can feel it’s being done to help a fat old israeli man jerk off to his fiction (grrm obv)
But if it’s in service to making a very good story with a crushing dark atmosphere then it’s not trashy. Rape orcs are terrifying
is it decent fantasy or teenage level fantasy
Decent fantasy. Great if you love hard magic systems (magic explained like it's science vs it just werks)
Please go back to /tg/ with your shit taste, buzzwords, and "muh gimmick tweest on fantasy cliches" nonsense.
Why are you crying bro? I can see the tears in your eyes. Are you seriously crying, right now? ffs
No, child, I am not
No, child, you cannot
No, child, these are your delusions speaking
Enjoy prison
Seems like you would enjoy prison a lot more than that anon. What with the rampant homosexuality and all...
Wrong in every last delusional detail as always, stalker
Prison awaits
it's irredeemable trash for literal morons
generic young adult rebels overthrow the evil empire trash, the magic system revolves around some people being able to eat certain metals to get different superpowers and others get powers from being in contact with metal. vin, the girl on the cover, is one of the superspecial ones who can have all the superpowers at once.
the sequel series is better, it's cowboys uncovering a conspiracy and doesn't have the hero as stupidly overpowered as vin
>some people have superpowers but the girl is special and can do ALL the superpowers and she's strong enough to overthrow an empire that has lasted hundreds of years with basically no training
It would be like if Rey got picked up by Kyle Katarn, spent a year training and was revealed to be stronger than average due to being a Palpatine in movie 1
Vin specifically has training and there's nothing special about her. She's a skilled mistborn but her greatest victories are due to luck, circumstance, or knowledge.
She is identically as powerful as any other mistborn in the setting.
Poor street girl who gets powers by eating metal meets and joins a band of good guys who get powers by eating metal, then they have to face the king of a powerful evil empire who has all the powers.
I don't remember much about the second and third, but the first book is a bit bad since the girl and the gang spend 80% of the book trying to come up with a 300 iq plan to overthrow the evil empire, only for the last chapter to have nothing of that matter and everything is resolved in a suicide attack by a couple of people
Other two books were entirely about the evil emperor having done absolutely nothing wrong plus some meaningless romance fluff.
You're not supposed to read those. Read the first one and then the one from the POV of Kelsier after he dies. And then era 2 or Stormlight Archive.
>And then era 2 or Stormlight Archive.
My friend told me Stormlight has a gay interspecies relationship with a wienerroach thing and constant mental illness bs so I never bothered.
Your friend might be reading too much fanfiction, there is no relationship like that in the released books.
It's not metal illness if they spend three books piling shit on the character, it's genuine PTSD. The dude can't get a second of rest.
Stormlight is actually pretty good. Cinemaphileanization will tell you all of Sanderson is shit but there's just assmad.
SL has a cool magic system, excellent character development, and a decent setting. Overall a 7/10 that will go up once the series is finished.
it isn't, you're just illiterate
True.
And they will complain about magic systems, even though Sanderson writes some of the few that actually make sense.
Sanderson also writes some of the best characters and point-of-view.
Sanderson writes anime and it feels llke he's only writing Stormlight because he wants to have his own epic. I only read The Way of Kings, and it was already too long so forget six more or whatever the frick he's trying to pull.
Young adult trash
Ignore what everyone else says because they're being autistic about it.
It's a fantasy heist story about an evil emperor who's split the world into a system of oppressive nobles and dehumanized workers. A group of quirky rogues with magical powers start a rebellion to overthrow the emperor. The main character is a teenage girl who has a rare magical power that makes her useful to the rebellion.
SLOP SLOP SLOP
UNIRONICALLY THE WORST FRICKING TRASH IN THE LITERARY WORLD AND MORMONS AND AUTISTS WORSHIP IT
IT IS SHIT SHIT SHIT AND I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT
STOP FRICKING STOP IT SUCKS IT SUCKS HOLY FRICK IT SUCKS SHIT ITS SO BAD
IF YOU COME UP TO ME IN REAL LIFE AND SAY YOU LIKE SANDERSON I'LL ACTUALLY KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS
THIS IS NOT A JOKE, THIS IS A LEGALLY ACTIONABLE THREAT!!! I WILL FRICKING RIP YOUR NUTS OFF
I WILL ACTUALLY LITERALLY RIP OUT YOUR SCROTUM IF YOU WORSHIP THIS SLOP IN FRONT OF ME
FRICK OFF FOREVER
This, Brandon Sanderson basically writes ChatGPT level novels and shits them out like hotcakes but people love them for some fricking reason. I don't get it, there's so many better fantasy books out there but people hyper fixate on his moronic bullshit.
>Lara McDonnell
This is pretty much exactly how i picture vin, good job anon
>Replace the male lead with a young female lead who can do everything the male lead can but better
How has this not been adapted for the big screen yet? Is it because Kelsier isn't an established character like Luke or Indie that they an piss all over?
Probably because getting caught is part of his plan. It only works because he’s engineered himself into becoming a martyr and briefly tricked people into thinking he came back from the dead.
If you follow the standard hollywood formula, where the established male character is turned into an emasculated b***h, the whole plan falls apart unless you also make him a villainous schemer that completely bullshits his escapades.
>Probably because getting caught is part of his plan.
yes that was why the phrase was used nu-tard
>Replace the male lead with a young female lead who can do everything the male lead can but better
This is true but it's not that bad because they never butchered Kelsier's character. Everybody, including Vin, loved him and has fond memories of him. They would never faithfully adapt that part of the story.
Ella Balinska
It’s going to be done wrong anyway, so it may as well be done as wrong as possible.
debra wilson
Zendaya
>female protagonist
that girl from justified, she'd be about old enough for a role like this. loretta, cant be bother to look up actress
Is this AI generated slop or something? It looks like the most generic, infantile, tired nu-Fantasy book possible.
Nah, it's just talentless labour of love kindleslop. You would be surprised how massive the middle aged business man self-published fantasy novel scene is.
>You would be surprised how massive the middle aged business man self-published fantasy novel scene is.
No I wouldn't. Fantasy always been a genre that's attracted masses of untalented hacks who are more interested in showing off their 'system' than writing a good story with interesting and likeable characters. If it's not the number one self published genre it's definitely top three besides Supernatural Romance and YAshit.
The problem now is that the legion of hacks self publishing are still better than what actually gets published these days.
It’s a fricking slog trying to wade through self insert isekai/litrpg on one side, obnoxious soapbox from someone the publisher bought a Hugo on the other , and blatant porn with a paper thin disguise wedged in between
Fair enough but it's still a dead genre with nothing worth looking at as far as I am concerned. The best fantasy writing being done today are video games which is fricking hilarious.
You’re probably right. The genre isn’t going to get better, not until publishers stop using residual sales from good authors to fund talentless diversity hires, which itself won’t happen until Larry is gutted and lynched with his own entrails.
It’s only going to mutate into different forms of shit, like when YA mutated and split into progressive soapbox on one side and shameless fapfiction on the other, or Tolkien ripoffs turned to edgy got ripoffs, which turned to litrpg.
I am morbidly curious as to what comes next, though. My bet is shitty westernised Xianxia, which is already starting to peak its head
>My bet is shitty westernised Xianxia, which is already starting to peak its head
Cradle was pretty good, but holy frick is Wight's new series bad
>You WILL listen to the Dungeon Crawler Carl Audio book
I don't really like this type of fantasy but I have to give the author some small credit in that he admitted he only was published because he knew someone. His friend met a publishing agent at a party and introduced the two. Only way he got his book in.
If you want to make it in online spaces you better be ready to right English xianxia, Isekai, or LitRPG dogshit. Goysloppa consumers refuse to read anything else.
Playing the Devil’s advocate, the reason that self published shit exploded is due to traditional publishing refusing to hire any writers that produce stories anyone wants to fricking read.
Despite being rife with bandwagon hopping hacks, self published/web original authors actually want people to read their books, rather than get as big an advance as they can for being a minority and then laugh as the publisher eats shit when their books don’t sell.
No devil's advocate about it, you're correct. Either be a black woman and publish garbage no one will read like black pink haired dwarven midgets getting drunk and fricking things (real book), or play to online trends and write isekai sloppa for seasonal anime homies. They may want people to read their books but they still have to play to consumer trends.
My wife loves these horny fantasy schlock books. Which is fine by me, I get the benefit. I've been reading them to capitalize on it, and man they suck. It would be so easy to write this style of erotica. I think I may do it under a female pen name.
To expand on that. The reason they blew up with women is the first book is basically beauty and the beast with katniss as the woman, and a brooding Elf king as the beast (and theres an evil witch with a curse and some ntr in the finale). Then the second book she has ptsd from the ending of the first book, and an even richer, sexier, and more understanding elf king comes along and rescues her and makes her realize the first sexy elf king was an abusive boyfriend.
Imagine if 50 shades of grey had a sequel where the mediocre woman got rescued from the billionaire by a trillionaire who was also a therapist. Throw in some random young adult fiction magic powers and you've got a woman moment phenomenon.
How erotic are these books? Qt mormon quiet girl at the back of the class I know loves these
I halfway through the first book and she has already fricked two different black guys. It's basically interracial porn.
First one is pretty bland, its more the long slow seduction and badly written romance then the actual sex scenes are pretty undescriptive.
Second one is a lot more adventure and action, both in the bedroom and out. They finally have a more explicit sex scene and some pretty explicit foreplay scenes towards the back of the book. From what my wife says they get hornier as they go.
If you want to hook a girl that's into these books, tell her you want to try the series out and discuss it as you go. Guaranteed to get her wetter than Vancouver island.
All my wife's friends go nuts that I read these and are very jealous of my wife.
dang I should've stuck with it, then. I gave up reading the first book because of how utterly dull it was.
They all suck anon. You aren't reading these for the literature. You're reading these so qt Mormon girl tells you which chapters made her get all flustered in her weird underwear, and you know the play to make.
Someone with beautiful feet because character is constantly barefoot.
Brie Larson
got it
Feet
Do you like dirty and calloused feet?
Frick that shit. Get yourself a MAN'S book.
>It's not a power fantasy, it's THE power fantasy.
https://tokybook.com/the-primal-hunter-04
Dungeon crawler carl is the only halfway decent one of these.
Mistborn was fine (first book was the best), but what i really hate about it is the prose, specifically the quality of the language. i like my fantasy's language pitched somewhere around Martin's ASOIAF for example, i don't want to feel like i'm reading a fanfic on someone's blog
There's an actress that looks similar to this but I can't think of her name
Carrie Fischer.
that one b***h from Sucker Punch, Emily Browning or w/e. her or Talulah Riley
Yeah, Browning is who I was thinking of. Though she doesn't look that good anymore.
just get the new one, the girl from the SoUE tv show
maybe christina chong?
Cailee Spainey, y'all are welcome
Tell me about Vin. Why doesn't she wear shoes?
I remember after I was obsessed with ASOIAF when I was 16-17 I decided to read more fantasy and literally everywhere recommended this series and I got to the first scene where they used different metals to move through the air and push/pull or some shit and I gave up immediately
are there any fantasy writers on GRRM's level? I'm not even being ironic
Second apocalypse is literally the only other good fantasy series. The rest are shit
>I'm not even being ironic
Yeah, that's what makes it so sad
clearly none of you have heard of the king of rape fantasy
>mfw I see a lack of moral clarity
Richard slaughtered those pacifists, men women and children, he was right to do it
The adaptation for this was based, Goodkind had the last laugh.
based, the show is what WoT should've been.
I second Bakker
Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Sun
Vance’s Lyonesse
All three make Martin seem laughable by comparison
>Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Sun
Excellent for expanding your vocabulary.
The Black Company by Glen Cook ran so that GRRM could crawl. Try that.
Sapkowski's hussite series is ok, but it's more like witcher in it's tone with "haha humans are stupid and monsters are humane" bit. Still, a fun read.
read The First Law series or listen to the audiobook read by steven pacey
Don't. It's pretty shit. Logen and Sand are the only remotely good characters. The tropes are pathetic and shallow. Overall a 5/10.
The grimdark is pretty good, but it's pretty much "what if LotR but everyone is a c**t bucket"
Still a somewhat enjoyable read, with some based scenes (unfortunately Abercrombie gets blue pulled in the spin offs, he wrote one with a strong independent woman just to prove it)
Read Conan
ASoIaF is unfortunately in a league of its own when it comes to fantasy. Even other work by GRRM isn't a good, although I only read the steamboat one.
>are there any fantasy writers on GRRM's level
you mean bad ones? plenty
>are there any fantasy writers on GRRM's level? I'm not even being ironic
Now, first of all. ASOIAF is garbage and GRRMs writing sucks dick.
And to truly make you realize this, you should read the series Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams. It's the series that very literally inspired GRRM to write fantasy. After reading it you will realize what GRRM tried to ape and how he failed spectacularly at it.
Tayzonday
isn't this the one with a cringe worthy cuck paragraph ?
no thats name of the wind
jesus fricking christ
I actually read the whole book and it was a solid 3/10. The fey sex party fantasy, the self-insert rapist killing fantasy, the cuck shit, the obvious gay relationship with the demon apprentice. It was all too much. Anyone even remotely interested in this title should read literally anything else.
I literally had to stop reading and never went back. It was so cringey I nearly died.
Nah, I'm honestly surprised Cinemaphile dislikes Sanderson.
I think every single one of his series has a blond chad getting the girl or at least getting a good ending.
I think everything you know about Cinemaphile is memes and you should go back where you belong.
Sarah Gadon
can anyone recommend good fantasy series that revolve around a male protagonist with minimal/no female characters and no romance subplots? no YA shit unless it doesn't have will they won't they romance crap.
The Lies of Locke Lamora
Dame Judy Dench
>that 2017-18 period where you wait to see if every non online author in the writing cycle is going to go insane between releases
That book sucked.
Sanderson is a hack.
Arent adults embarrassed by the prospect of buying a book with ther cover and tag line?
Use flibusta/rutracker/repository with your language
I doubt that firsties get assraped for downloading books
why?
just say it's for your 13 year old niece lol
his readers look like this
>if only you knew how bad things were
grim
they look like me, and I look cool as frick
Not even one of Sanderson's better series.
The plot twists in this were absolutely goated. Man is never gonna win any awards for prose but goddam that son of a b***h got me good, and book 1 especially has such a fun heist movie atmopshere
That's pretty much my take on it. Very workmanlike writing, characters mostly just move according to the whims of the plot, but the plot is pretty good with some fun twists and surprises, so it works out.
Jenna Ortega as Vin
Nikolaj Coster Waldau as Kelsier
>the Cinemaphile bakkertroon just replying to himself over and over in this thread
sad
>"He burned pewter"
I just saved you from reading 1/3 of this trash book.
he didn't even do that
The entire time I was reading the second book I was thinking why didn't any of the armies have a single catapult?
Cast them
>mutilated penis
Somewhere a israelite laughs loathsomely
Mentalist era Simon Baker as Kelsier.
I have never read a book with a female protagonist except I guess parts of ASoiaF and I intend to keep it that way
As long as she’s cute, tomboyish, short and most importantly WHITE then I’ll be happy. Kelsier would be much more fun to cast. Needs charisma but also underlying anger/violence. So like Matt smith but more handsome and not inbred
Simon. Baker.
I like Sci fi and fantasy but I've never enjoyed Sanderson.
>all video game tie-ins or shitty disney wars crap
Absolutely the worst tier list I've ever had the displeasure of seeing. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
>open picture
>see starslop in S+
>close picture
reminder that every tierlist is shit-tier and/or bait
Malazan shits on Sandersons books so much, have you fricks not read them
I think most people are intimidated by the page count and number of books
Listen, sometimes you don't have the mental fortitude to suffer through the emotionally tiring slog a book like Deadhouse Gates is. Or the headache inducing ponderings of what life is for immortals that live for 100 000s of years is like in Forge of Darkness from the very mindfricking perspective of one of these insanely long lived dudes.
Sometimes you just wanna read cool action scenes that reads like a mix of Michael Bay and a shonen battle anime.
Is Elric worth reading?
I dropped this series halfway through the second book because I got sick of all the unnecessary overdescribed anime-like fight scenes. Is all Sanderson shit like this?
>English xianxia, Isekai, or LitRPG dogshit
this is male retaliation because big publishers only want to put out girlboss fantasy bullshit
I HATE URBAN FANTASY
I HATE URBAN FANTASY
Modern fantasy is unreadable troony slop. Take the chink pill.
Reject this false dichotomy and just real old fantasy and make your own