>chad Stacy couple
>they’re actually nice
Yay.
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>chad Stacy couple. >theyre actually nice
>chad Stacy couple
>they’re actually nice
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holy frick lmfao
Kek. FPBP.
>Hates thread
>Bumped it from page 10
If you wish.
>moron tooka picture of his monitor to make a meme
By allah do none of you infidels know about the snipping tool
Take another look at the OP image.
one of them's a fox though
>but technically foxes are still canines
>its never be you
hah
incredible
Fuuuu
GOATed
10/10
Perfection
Vivize really is just the archetypical furry artist
You fricker you made me belly laugh
That's pretty good
Noice!
I knew this joke before and I still appreciate your sense of humor, anon
I don't get it
It's a stereotype of how most furries draw wolves. They give the males a big old wide shnoz and give the females beady eyes and a cute snoot more fitting on a fox than a wolf. its part of the greater stereotype of exaggerating gender dimorphism on a species that has little to none. Like making the female counterpart to an animal character pink and with fluttering eyelashes and "totally not cleavage"
>"totally not cleavage"
Never understood why furries do this when SIX TO EIGHT breasts is obviously the way to go.
It's also a animated animal movie stereotype
So the bodyguard of the hottest popstar in hell is also the boyfriend of Beelzebub, who is also a popstar and throws her own parties because she's the head of the fricking gluttony ring and likes to make people drink barrels of her honey which come from an as-yet undetermined hole?
>the bodyguard of the hottest popstar in hell is also the boyfriend of Beelzebub, who is also a popstar
That part's not weird, he's already got connections.
Si.
Yeah. He probably met Bee precisely BECAUSE he was the bodyguard of another popstar. Of course Bee is a "popstar" in the same way that Asmodeus is a club owner. It's a way for her to encourage other people to indulge themselves.
Remember when Loona complained she didn’t have any friends, then she didn’t go to the party when the guy invited her cause she was malding he had a girlfriend? If she had just gone to the damn party she probably could have been friends with all these pop stars and avoided this entire episode of gay drama
Turns out people with social anxiety have trouble in social situations.
Real thinker.
So who is the bottom
Vortex
Why does everyone see him as a bottom?
>Prince of Hell with lots of power and the ability to go demon form into a giant bee-fox monster
vs.
>a furry
Gee, anon, I wonder why people think "Vore"tex is the bottom.
>Haha I'll slip my fetish into this thread
Not that anon but Viv knew what she was doing.
One of the rare times she does.
1. She’s a lord of a ring of hell, and he’s just a hellhound.
2. He canonically sucked some cops dicks in the first episode he was introduced, so he’s more submissive than he looks
>2
you forgot that he was forced to, dumbass
Because he's very obviously a good boy who's getting pegged.
By me.
Vortex, if we are to assume the roles of what she actually depicts being involved in the concept of the sin Gluttony, she's a feeder, ergo, dominant and forceful.
Think about it, Loona was entirely new when she came and I felt the exact same just because I understood WHAT she was seeing which was a seemingly innocent bee-hound feeding and hosting a party for the guests. At one point she really was pushing and forcing food down the guests' throats, thus continuing to shine.
She feeds off good vibes, so whatever makes Tex happiest.
So Tex is definitely the bottom
I am sick of homosexuals shilling this crap.
NOOOO you will love furry cartoons
No.
In fact, seeing this pastel-vomit shit made me realize in wording why I hate most canid-furgay art.
Amen brother amen
I was hoping to get more stuff regarding those kinds of couples. I just posted them because they were recent
If only there was some way you could keep from clicking on threads you know you won’t enjoy. If on;y.
kys gay
>loona a cuckquean
BEE
IS
SUCH
A
SWEETHEART
Kesha must have been so touched that this is how Vivzie sees her, the generous party queen of hell
Did you take a photo of your screen?
No I saved a pic on Twitter of someone taking a pic with her phone
Normalize Chad and Stacy being nice
Nice people are popular
Bullies aren't
Chad and Stacy are indeed the nicest people. Hollywood israelite-rats only hate good looking friendly white couples that bring people together.
Bullied in high school so this is what they use for revenge.
meds
What’s wrong dork?
>white couple
There it is. This pairing is allowed to be nice because the chad is black coded.
false
They would never use Cinemaphile. Also for the people saying that Queen Bee looks a sparkledog because she rules over hellhounds, she doesnt like canine at all here, in fact she looks more like some sort of cat, like a caracal or something
That doesn't change the fact she is very over designed.
>caracal
Cope.
Caracals have flat noses.
I know a dog snout when I see it.
Kesha is a sparkledog.
Wasn't this show about a group of assassins and their business headaches?
>he doesnt know
>>chad Stacy couple
It's usually the ones that despise the Chad/ Stacy relationship that project the most hate. You know? The ugly people.
We already knew that Vortex was chill, but it was nice that Bee turned out to be cool too.
>Skinny legs, wide torso
>Skinny torso, wide legs
It's like poetry, they rhyme.
It's like Tetris, it fits.
Eh like pottery
boring
Imagine if this took place after western energy and Loona had to show up with the cone.
Imagine if Vortex made Loona deepthroat him while she's in that cone.
I'm more surprised she wasn't a lesbian.
Just wait for the Vortex trans arc.
The literal embodiment of a sin is a nice person. God this show fell off so hard.
>sinners cant be nice people
Somebody wrangle this tard back to their bible camp
Frick off viv, go work on your shitty show.
Meds
>sinners
The embodiment of a sin you fedora thumping moron, don't use biblical lore if all you're wanting to do is "own da christcucks" instead of tell an entertaining story
>t. agnostic
>biblical lore
all demons come from trendy grimoires written in the 1700s
Cool so I guess shit sparkles all over the screen and make no attempts to make anything entertaining or evocative of the lore you're using cuz "it all not real lore yo".
I don't know why you keep using this 'argument' and thinking its a gotcha.
The problem is even if you remove the canon that exists for hell it still just isn't a well put together setting due to the confusing setup. Maybe it is just loregays missing the point but it's hard to ignore how the flanderizing has happened real fricking fast.
My favourite depiction of Beelzebub is probably the one from classic Dungeons & Dragons where he looks like he was just rejected from the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.
See, this wouldn't even look out of place in the show, and the christcucks couldn't complain about it because D&D is what passes for western culture these days.
Why would they complain about it? Its got fly elements, as well as bull horns since Beelzebub was originally Baal. Its pretty accurate
The bible is a collection of tales and instructions for managing people. there is not a word normal about hell or heaven. all these things with heating cauldrons or golden skies are nothing more than an invention of the priests themselves to frighten the people.
>God created everything
>Sin exists, therefore sin as a concept has its origins in God
>all sin is evil and must be avoided at all costs even tho it too is a fundamental aspect of existence that God in His infinite wisdom set into motion
I always find it hilarious that the ones who advocate for God so much tend to be the ones who like to talk over Him.
Sorry, I've seen enough fedora arguing in these threads to not get roped in. Your time may be unlimited but mine isn't.
You will stand before your Lord one day and you will find him ANGRY
You'll stand under my ass one day and find it runny.
She wanted to 'own da christcucks' at the expense of her own creativity.
She's changed the canon on a whim before.
And it's been moronic then too.
>Uh-uh, acshkually all that titles of "embodiment of a sin" are just honorary titles that just denote rights and place in the hierarchy
I guess you wanted to say something like that, though it still still outstandingly stupid and confusing, using words with long established imagos in a completely different meaning.
Go frick yourself Viv.
sinners can be nice people as long as they repent
Not even a sinner Lorelet, its one of the Seven princes of Hell
TOTAL VIVZIE DEATH
No, Sinners can't be nice people. I'm not even religious but the entire concept of being a 'sinner' is inherently extremism in a particular trait. A virtuous person is one who balances two extremes and remains disciplined and complete as a result.
If you are a sinner you are an undisciplined and moronic little ape with no control over your impulses. Stop overeating, pig. Stop backstabbing, snake. Start doing shit, lazyfrick. Stop letting your anger control you, chimp. Stop giving your body away, prostitute. Stop worshiping material goods, you dumbass consumer. Stop resenting others for being better and start being better, fool.
Assuming the show is clearly smarter and not just braindead writing, from what I'm getting with her design, there can be nice people who can also be malicious in the sense of letting guests indulge and either forcefully (or not) let them be to their hearts' desire (thus letting them come inside and outside all they want). The pitfall here are the individuals themselves and how far they fall into the "flytrap" willingly. From what I get, she's not clearly pleased with "bad vibes" but rather seeing people enjoy/pleasure themselves in their own gluttony, which is something that can be commonly seen in a feeder/feedee relationship. Usually, even many times, the feedee is more often many times the victim of being allured by a feeder and the feeder allowing such behavior.
>Assuming the show is clearly smarter and not just braindead writing
Bold assumption to make considering it's being headed by a fujoshi who never grew past her DA sparkledog phase.
>there can be nice people who can also be malicious
this is never shown in the plot
don't write cope plothole fixes for them
they will never actually exist in the show
you are working for free
Now they're claiming that Bee and Asmodeus would not like Valentino, and they would warn people to stay away from his parties.
Is this hell or the pony show with sex and drugs now?
The pony show?
Don't know. Does anyone legitimately know of any other adults who watch this seriously? The views have to be primarily middle schoolers and some high schoolers.
Oh yeah, and I guess the Youtube reaction channels
I caught onto this show when a guy at work was watching it on his phone during lunch hour. He's in his late 20's. He was watching the then newly released "Truth Seekers" episode. It was the song being played during the fight sequence that piqued my interest and I asked wth he was watching.
Meh, I’m late 20’s and I watch it but I only ever discuss it here. I think there are a lot of people who probably unironically enjoy the show, but they don’t want to be outed as being a furry or even associated with furries.
It's fun enough. Cinemaphile loves shitting on it but that's because it's gay furry shit.
Only the Octavia, Verosika, and Striker debut episodes kept my interest. First episode was fine but other three were better. I did like the mature attempt at depicting divorces but then that went the wayside.
In my 20's here. Sadly the Circus episode basically killed most of my love for this series. I still like it... or rather I want to be better and I hope it will, but at this point I'm not fooling myself with how Viv acts.
what do you like about it
I like Moxxie... Also I like some episodes before the Circus like Ozzie's. Some of the designs are good, the world has potential to be very interesting. The animation can be very nice and some female characters just look hot. And Season 1 as a whole laid out pretty good groundwork for a good story. Too bad Viv blew it all up with equivalent of C4 strapped to a Nuclear Reactor.
Is it bad that I'd hope they would warn folks away because he gets the shitty stuff that's like 95% rat poison, come on, join us we got the premium shit, only the finest and only the most delectable.
If every murderer was the biggest fricking butthole you could imagine there wouldn't be many serial killers.
It's the embodiment of a sin, anon, they should all be buttholes.
>SparkleDog
Isn't Christianity very specific on it not being about being a good person, but rather following the rules? Like, don't you still go to Hell if you help people all of your life, and just never actually swear yourself to Jesus or whatever it is?
I mean I guess, but the personification of a SIN being a good person just feels toothless. I'd expect that from a kids show.
She’s rich and self indulgent instead of pious and humble and god has an opinion on that. “SIN” has been drilled into people as meaning disgusting evil things rather than simply debauched to literally bizarre arbitrary shit like kosher foods or the no pork rule for Muslims. What god doesn’t like people doing has been a lot of controlling random things.
Blitz was removed from a gluttony party for going too hard; that Angel was kicked out because she indulged herself “too much” in literally HEAVEN? While clearly she has limits at self destructive levels?
I think we’re expecting things to be worse because “the sinners” have been murderers who turn people’s skin into furniture and eat them and rapists and dictators warring for turf. And generally just really obnoxiously cruel buttholes at every small opportunity.
Heaven sends Angels to kill human souls in hell and kicked out the cherubs for accidentally getting a man destined for hell killed while trying to help him anyway.
Heaven is just the sanctimonious ring
Kind of? You're judged by your heart: It's just that, if you've learned about Jesus, you probably don't have the heart of Heaven if you then deny Him. If you never learned about Him, though, that's not held against you during Final Judgement.
>If you never learned about Him, though, that's not held against you during Final Judgement.
Then why do Christians tell people? If they wanted people's eternal souls to be saved, wouldn't it be in their best interest to never tell people about Jesus and stuff? Ignorance is bliss and whatnot
The philosophies and religious systems of the Unlearned are incomplete, and bringing them to know Christ completes their spiritual understanding. The logic from those that go out to convert is that righteous pagans will convert anyway, and the pagans that didn't convert weren't going to be considered virtuous pagans anyway, so spreading the word doesn't actually "increase" the amount of the damned.
>The philosophies and religious systems of the Unlearned are incomplete
Says who? What makes knowing Christ compete a person spiritually?
Says Christian theology, basically. The Christian school of thought is that humanity has a passive understanding of the law of God instilled in their natures, but it's unrefined, which is what learning about Christ and His message helps polish.
>Says Christian theology
What gives them the authority to say that? Why does one need God to help them polish their understanding of their nature?
>What gives them the authority to say that? Why does one need God to help them polish their understanding of their nature?
Quit arguing about god on the internet fatass
>Quit arguing
Who says I'm arguing? I'm simply asking questions
What would make the world perfect?
Jimmy Neutron did an episode on this. He made robots who eventually went on a rampage "deleting" humans because they weren't perfect. The Japanese have a philosophy about this as well. This deep philosophy states that imperfections make something perfect. Wise scholars have delved many hours into understanding this philosophy. Knowing that perfect is impossible, and gaining acceptance that imperfections, impermanence, and incompleteness encompass life, and that's perfect. This deep philosophy, known to the Japanese, goes by the immaculate name, Wabi-sabi.
>What would make the world perfect?
Christ does. When humanity let death into the world by eating from the tree of knowledge, it spiritually corrupted all of existence. In Christianity, death isn't a natural part of the world: It's essentially the first chaos god.
This makes more sense with the bodily resurrection doctrine and little to none with the current harps-and-clouds heaven belief.
Yeah a lot if modern views on Heaven come from the middle ages when waiting until the end of time to live again wasn't a satisfactory answer
Because the world is fallen and imperfect, so that natural understanding has been innately corrupted.
The Christian concept of the kingdom of God (harmony, selflessness, etc). Isn’t limited to just Heaven. Jesus said to make disciples in all nations for the same reason much of his ministry was about life on earth rather than about an afterlife, because if someone loves and wants to follow God, it’s supposed to inspire them to live a righteous and generous life, rather than just wait around for Heaven. The concept of spreading the religion isnt that they’re the ones saving the souls (“we may plant the seed, but only God can make it grow”), but because they see it as a gift that’s meant to be shared, which encourages people to accept Jesus’ salvation(though of course, many people have used it to subjugate others, line their pockets and bolster imperialism instead).
the issue with all of that is that the obsession with Christian perfectionism, unironically, might actually be fueling this capitalistic obsessive panic into technology in the last several decades; the desire to strip away every fabric of imperfection to the point where everything might as well be simple shapes.
if our perfect understanding of reality can be stripped down to shapes (perfect reality) then sorry to say, but I can't exactly see it being a very healthy mindset to follow, benign as Christianity might be. taking it to the absolute extreme even if no harm comes upon the people ideologically might actually end up creating a polar opposite of hell that is far worse than Helluva Boss or any kind of depictions of hell for that matter.
>the issue with all of that is that the obsession with Christian perfectionism, unironically, might actually be fueling this capitalistic obsessive panic into technology in the last several decades; the desire to strip away every fabric of imperfection to the point where everything might as well be simple shapes.
No. That’s the result of demonic people panicking because less people of faith are willing to jump into their Ponzi schemes. We’ve been losing our fricking art knowledge for decades.
Because you can still frick up on your own and having a direct line to the guy who runs the universe and wants to spend eternity with you is a massive advantage.
God only wants you to worship him forever. That would be your only purpose. Why would anybody want that?
Atheists' try not to misunderstand religion challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
No dude, literally that’s how things are described in revelations. If you go to heaven, your every waking moment for eternity would be in worship to god. That’s literally it and it makes sense if you actually read the Bible.
Doubt you've ready any scripture aside from out of context stuff on r/atheism.
I had to read the whole thing in school but that was a hot minute ago. But this is standard stuff everybody says from Aquinas on down, you are not being internet bullied by fedora-wearing ne'er-do-wells.
>I had to read the whole thing in school
No you didn't.
It's possible we skipped parts, I don't really remember, but we went from Genesis to Revelation. We had to answer questions and everything.
Anon is only parroting very mainstream, very influential Christian speakers. If your personal religion is that you can be saved without Jesus and that paradise is not singing the praises of God, great, I love a radical free thinker.
>Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
>invisible
>clearly seen
Nice analogy
take this to Cinemaphile, i'm sick of christcucks and the cyclical logic of judaism 2.0
reddit,go back
No. See the parable of the two sons. Intent is a huge factor. Rejecting Jesus out of pride however is a deal breaker.
No you end up in Purgatory with all the unbaptized babies
It seems like the sins are like 90% concerned with just maintaining order in hell itself and only like 10% concerned with spreading their sins into the human world. Their main jobs is to deal with the lesser demons of their ring and maintain hells overall structure. So that could be why they’re less evil overall than say the Goetia, who are predominantly out to ruin humanity.
Perhaps you should rethink your concept of what is and is not a sin, friend.
No, I just need to watch better shows.
Hardly any better shows than Helluva Boss
God, getting tired of the simps showing up.
She's nice because it benefits her, her honey comes from people having a good time as they indulge their vices since she literally feeds on good vibes
>She's nice because it benefits her
See, they should have emphasized this a lot more, by showing that she isn't nice at all when it doesn't benefit her.
Yes, and she isn't even demonstrating the sin she's supposed to represent.
GLUTTONY.. of what?
Eating? Oops haha she burns it all magically away and is a sticc
Partying? Oops haha she makes sure everyone is drinking and partying incredibly responsibly and makes sure wittle Blitzo gets home safewyyy
What is the point?
I really thought the cotton candy was going to be some nutty hypnosis cotton candy, and that's why Loona's autism was alarmed by it when the dog's eyes started going weird when they ate it.
Nope, it really was just cotton candy and any imagery was just imagery. That's not even subversion of tropes, that's just Zootopia/Frozen villain moronic outright misdirection
Yes and whenever there ARE "bad guys" they're bad in the most sjw-defined bad ways. "He/she doesn't like gay people". Which ends up usurping "the gay person who he/she doesn't like just MURDERED an entire family last episode"
Mortality hasn't registered for the creator/audience yet. But someone with a frog avatar calling them a gay is more real.
inb4 final episode of both HH & HB is a crossover 4-parter, where all the MCs have a last stand against a horde of eldritch abominations from the forgotten eighth ring, Cinemaphile, led by none other than the arch-autist, Guy. The most terrifying thing about them? Every single one is a homophobe, a transphobe and a misogynist, even the gays, the troons and the femcels
i read this in garfield’s voice
Garfield doesn't speak
yes he does
nu-uh
garfield speaks lol there's a whole garfield cartoon
odie however does not speak
None of these villains will ever be frightening or imposing because they are either a pathetic bigoted bully, or mass murderer who HAS STANDARDS and at least hes not RUDE, or some tragic sympathetic villain shit
Fujo’s don’t know how to make good villains.
Gotta give Viv props for creating an SJW type of Hell
This sort of hell is not remotely new and not remotely something that Viv did first.
Well yes it's the one we live in
Is it? I know of interpretations of hell that have morality reversed or portray hell as a funny, silly place but I dont think anything has come close to this
Well there's Ugly Americans at least and that's from 2010
It ended too soon.
Ugly Americans is absolutely underrated.
Perfect after-work beer show.
Now I'm mad that I remember what we could have had.
It also takes away what made Charlie unique. She was the nice if very naive ray of sunshine of hell, born into this world of sin and yet nothing like the typical demon.
Bee being a nice person who cares ruins what made Charlie special.
I thought she was going to be some psychopath who grooms others into consume until they die of overdose or choking. But no, apparently she just wants you to enjoy yourself and she will stop if she sees you're in danger. They couldn't even deliver a scene where she threatens Loona with eating her when she became giant.
Queen of gluttony rarely lives up to its title
Stop pushing your fetishes.
None of those are my fetish. But now that you mention it, I notice that writting a gluttony based character without falling into any fetish would be somewhat problematic.
Maybe that's why Viv just drew a sparkledog with bee wings and call it a day.
That’s just giving into the furry fetish wholesale, what a wuss.
Anon this is a furry show created by a furry artist. There is no furry appeal in the show, the show itself is a furry appeal.
No non-furry would be watching this show.
Doesn’t mean all she has to do is pander to furries.
In that Anons defense, the avatar of gluttony really is the one time you can narratively fit vore implications
It's no damn surprise Viv is sanitizing Gluttony so much, she's the biggest fricking example of it
Wouldnt be surprised if episodes are taking so long because she keeps eating her animators
from what I saw she's not that fat, but I honest to god wouldn't be surprised Beelzebub being a projection of her own self considering the coincidence she likes yellow and the Beelzebub design is conceptually yellow by nature.
>from what I saw she's not that fat
She's getting there, rapidly.
Put down the fork, Viv.
>from what I saw she's not that fat,
A few more trips to the buffet and she's gonna reach critical mass and collapse into a black hole. God help us all.
Bee also turns the same shade as her fursona several times in her intro song.
You sound fat
>Noooooo dont make fat jokes about muh queen!!!!
Lol Vivzie is fat and so are you lol
Would
>good features with a fat rack
Would invest
Why are closeted gays and fatties hiding behind their monitors seething so hard?
Jealous.
FURRYS
ARE
CRINGE
Yeah last thing I wanna do when posting on Cinemaphile is be cringe
>Lucifer is another one of those "he did nothing wrong noble freedom fighter" character
>Asmodeus hates pimps and rape
>Leviathan is a chill surfer bro despite being the embodiment of envy
>Beelzebub doesn't like when people overindulge
Damn...
The seven deadly sins...
hates pimps and rape
is a chill surfer bro despite being the embodiment of envy
Huh? Where can I read this?
Viv's twitter
Though the last thread already had a considerably better idea for Leviathan as a suffering, grief-stricken monster (God Himself stepped in to personally kill Leviathan's wife, after all) who envies that all the other princes/denizens of Hell have relationships, particularly Lucifer with Lilith, and goes on rampages from time to time hoping to get exterminated (historically, the deadly sin of Envy was Sadness/Despair, so him being full of despair also works) but since only God can kill him he eventually just tires himself out.
The hellborn just think he's flexing his might and are envious of him in return, which just fuels the cycle.
She liked and retweeted comments from people saying that Asmodeus would hate rape. And Bee "is the type of host to make sure nothing dangerous is happening."
Um...aren't we in hell?
It's her take on hell that is really whitewashed.
Yes, but not in the imigrant containment zone.
In this setting hell is only bad because of the bad people that get sent here, and they are all contained in the pride ring.
Its bit pre-abrahamic "lack of gods light" kind of hell in that sence.
The description of him in Job makes him sound like an armored dragon that lives in the depths of the ocean, and aside from the line of “all that is under heaven belongs to me” it makes it sound like he is the the ruler of pride.
>”It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all that are proud.”
I feel like if Satan tried to overthrow God (which would be the biggest act of Pride conceivable) Leviathan would be the ruler of Pride, though being second fiddle would likely make him envious, though if we go with the deathwish interpretation that you mentioned, he would likely try and go to war with God just to die if he did become head honcho of Hell.
Well now that Vortex is definitely off the table, it’s time for the true Loona endgame to begin.
That'd honestly make a very cute pairing; loona seems at the bottom of every part of the hell, she's a loner and a hellbound. Having someone with some positive effect would be a nice change of pace, and might actually help her get out of her shell.
in all honesty, i think the main reason they didn't have the queen of gluttony being all fat and having very little fat characters in her ring is more down to the artists doing their best job to prevent fat-fetishim from spiraling even further out of control.
its almost impossible to feel comfortable drawing fat characters anymore knowing some fricking weirdo somewhere will jack off to it. thats not an energy you want to carry with a whole animated episode, especially in todays age of cartoons.
Thats still a shitty excuse because theyre still watching the show. Views are views and they shluld cater to the fatgays. Even if they are disgusting hellbeasts
Black person every character in the show is designed for frickability and the two main characters frequently frick each other in the ass.
It has more to do with them being afraid to admit that over-eating can make you fat and not just "muh glands".
> every character in the show is designed for frickability
anon, do you even know what the fatfurry hivemind in the art communitiy is like? they're infamous for having literal brainrot and are the most insufferable coomers
It must be glandular to some extent because I eat like shit and I'm a rake.
Heh
>down to the artists doing their best job to prevent fat-fetishim from spiraling even further out of control.
trust me pal
making it a sparkledog instead of some obese abomination did more favors to fatgays than you'd imaginempvn4
well, thats the thing; as long as it stays in the fanart scene, its all good.
having it ACTUALLY in the show will just put people off watching it and might even end up souring their professional image.
For real, attractive furry women make way better fatties than TLC hamplanets. Beel already got dozens of drawings of her being a fat b***h, and being the queen of gluttony only adds fuel to the fire
>attractive furry women make way better fatties than TLC hamplanets
True. Not to mention they can also pull off certain traits that would otherwise look sad on human hams.
its simple, irl fat women are 90% of the time hideous american ogres.
Drawn fatties are usually drawn in the most appealing and idealized way that irl could never mimic, especially if they are drawn furry women.
Unfortunately women like the Architect's wife are a diamond dozen
>Drawn fatties are usually drawn in the most appealing and idealized way that irl could never mimic, especially if they are drawn furry women.
You got that right, though I especially love drawn furry women due to the amount of shit you could get away with that not even drawn human women usually have.
True, in the end we just gotta admit we prefer furry women like the degenerates we are. Fat or not they are more appealing to me than humies, I am sick in the head
Yeah, though for me I like them for reasons even for non-'degenerate' reasons; especially for the fact they're fun to design in the sense you could draw one species in various different ways, and they'll still usually look consistent with other characters ,same species or otherwise, in some manner (least in the best cases).
lel
yeah for some bizarre reason exaggerated proportions looks less silly on a multicolored wolf woman than it does on a human woman
I think the fact she's still distinctly non-human despite being humanoid in form really helps, and that's the fun part of it for me: the 'humanoid' part being something of a variable in itself.
>its almost impossible to feel comfortable drawing fat characters anymore knowing some fricking weirdo somewhere will jack off to it.
So you design them in a way even more people will jack off to it?
That shit's going to happen no matter what the frick you do with the design.
People are making porn of THE DEMONS FROM MOTHERFRICKING DOOM.
This is the most ignorant ass take I've ever seen, what the frick.
Who's that?
Im not surprised at all, fricking fat gay
Who?
are they both wolves? the chick looks like one of these desert foxes.
beez is some kind of a fox, not sure what kind.
Fennec?
>fox-inspired character
Okay, but WHY did they have to make it Beelzebub?
Idk, maybe it's reference to Beelzebub bat, and there also are bats called flying fox, so maybe that has something to do with it?
That's a huge reach.
Orange bat?
The Deadly Sins are not good at their jobs. Just install the Overlords of hell as the new figureheads of sin.
Make Valentino into Lust, Velvette- gluttony, Alastor - don't know, maybe Wrath or something. They all have suspiciously similar aesthetics and designs to parallel the higher demons.
So you just want hell to be a broken wasteland with no native populace thriving in it?
As it should be
That's barely worth 2 episodes.
>hey it fricking sucks here
>yep
>The End!
>hey it fricking sucks here
Yes.
Yes. Death to the hellborn. Allow sinners to go to any ring they want.
Killing demons is a morally right thing to do, so yes.
>so you want hell to be hellish
Yes
Now that'd be interesting, if the sins were mantles overtaken by Overlords who amass enough power to take their place.
What about Vox?
Vox - Sloth maybe. He's a TV-head man.
Valentino - Lust
Velvette - Gluttony. Another party girl, one who actually lives up to the name of gluttony in some ways.
Alastor - Wrath
Carmilla - Greed. People forget about her. She's the b***h who sells the angelic weaponry and makes a lot of profit.
Envy - Don't know yet. There are more Overlords who are unnamed so far.
Lucifer can stay ruler of Pride, because he's clearly not going anyway. He can get tired of the current 7 rulers, or maybe they're not doing their jobs sufficiently. So he demotes them and lets Overlords spread out and take over.
GOD THIS SHOW SUCKS.
I WANT MORE EPISODES LIKE THE FIRST COUPLE, WHERE THEY DID THEIR JOBS LIKE THE PILOT SAID THEY WERE GONNA
I HATE ALL THIS MELODRAMA
The lefts eyelashes that extend three feet off her face are just as stupid and obnoxious as Dobson eyebrows
She's meant to look like a bee so the eyelashes are long to resemble antennae
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/137998925
Got a mixed response in a nearby thread while I was sleeping. Sadly that thread is dead, because the time zones are different and I stupidly did not have time to react.
If you ever switch waifu in your lifetime you don't deserve to be loved. Everyone here has had at least half a dozen temporary infatuations with wiafus. They all thought "this is the one, this is the waifu" but then later they found another one. They - me included - can't even be loyal in their own dreams. It's very shameful. What you should do is quit lusting after platonic ideals and resign that you live a lower existence, because that's where you belong, and that's why you should be thankful that you will never have a waifur. You'd only drag her into the muck, reduced to the state of hylics like us.
In short, you're selfish. The greatest act of love toward your waifu is to let her go.
He's probably right. I don’t know where to start then ... will I have to delete my bookmarks in the browser and erase the entire folder, even with memes? I don't understand exactly. And then what to fill the void? I hate work, that's for sure, it won't work to replace it.
I was thinking of writing a fanfiction because I don't understand what to do with images from dreams or feelings. After all, working in the accounting department, I am deeply unhappy. I don’t know, I’ll ask the doctor about this ... but wait a month for my turn
That's the gayest fricking thing I ever heard, a lot of characters that have been waifu'd aren't nice girls to begin with, he's blowing smoke up his own ass.
Hm. I don't know what to feel about this. but the desire to make a story still remained. maybe I should rely on that, but I've never dealt with such things. there were calculations, drawings, but I burned out from these things 3 years after I started working with projects
genuine question, are you autistic?
No. not even close. and not even schizo. why on this board are obsessed with this word, without even having an idea what kind of diagnosis it is?
Because you sound like an undiagnosed sperger.
Satan dammit, why?
huh?
if I was so sick, then it was at least some kind of justification for my thinking.
post2k16 4tranners have 4 memes, fitting tbh
The insults of the internet have gotten sadly lazy.
Well, fricking everything has gotten fricking lazy. Guess that's why we're getting all the fricking remakes, and scripts written by AI.
Dull times ahead as everyone is creatively and mentally bankrupt.
What?
Because you write constant paragraphs and have an obsession with loona. It seems pretty autistic
I'm too lazy to put paragraphs.
as well as capitalize new sentences.
This habit from MMO (perfect world, lmao)since 2012, quit them in 2016 probably
Its too bad be obsessed in something or on someone without hurt anyone?
If you say so.
I still find it Bizarre that Beelzebub, Lucifer's right hand fallen angel, is unironically one of the nicest people in hell, especially when compared to b***hes like Loona. Still disappointed the Zoophobia sparkledog is taking the role of such a significant Demon in hell
His daughter is also one one the nicest people in hell
Yes and thats supposed to be unusual and ironic for hell. It's part of the premise, but Viv lost the plot before Hazbin even came out.
>Blitzo, a 4ft tall imp beating one of the most powerful beings in Hell only under Lucifer at a drinking contest
>Blitzo beating the embodiment of hedonistic excess at a drinking contest of a brew made by said embodiment of hedonistic excess
This is by far the most Gary Stu main character shit they put Blitzo through yet and I absolutely hate it.
But anon Blitzo's gotta be the best at everything!!!!!!!!
He can beat one of the seven princes of hell at a drinking completion but he can never bring his mother and sister back cause he is a useless pile of garbage only good for drinking booze and ruining lives.
The Gary Stu still has to be sympathetic and pitiable after all, even if his stellar capabilities only makes you want to smash your head in at how inept he is that he can't solve his problems!!!
Ah yes, the character that is perfect at all the wrong things and terrible at everything that actually maters, who doesn't love one of those?
Blitzo doesn't lack meaningful character flaws and is constantly behaving badly or fricking up. I don't know why a handful of Cinemaphile have such a hate boner for him, but it's probably more to do with the show in general than the character itself.
Blitzo is basically Rick if he was a stupid red midget but somehow even worse combined with all the negative traits of Roger from American Dad but with none of the charm
I am 65% sure Vivz was inspired to make Blitzo after binge watching American Dad. But she forgot the part were Roger usually gets his comeuppance for being a major butthole
Loona and human men
A queen boyfriend to a slave .
This is on Youtube. Why is this a picture of a screen?
Some people can't into screenshots.
what color are her pussy lips
bawd!
>her
I have some bad news.
Already debonked by official merch.
This doesn’t even make sense, the “normalize girl bulge” people are not the legitimate trans people, this caters to the weird fetish people not represents the people with the actual mental illness
in it's defence I don't think hell society would offer particularly good bottom surgery. or frick it, maybe it would, it's Vivzie hell after all
To be fair, as much as 'amhole' and 'dilate are memes, most troons don't usually get the snip. Which makes sense if it's a fetish.
I don't care, she's cool
She'd be fine if she were a hellhound empowered by Beelzebub and not Beelzebub himself. As it stands, she's an OC with the name slapped on, might as well taken a glamrock girl with half her head shaved and named her Moloch.
>she's an OC with the name slapped on
I don't like the sparkledog any more than you, but there is no one consistent tradition of Beelzebub to flout.
That's an utter cop out and you know it. The fact that so many people watched the episode and missed that she was in fact Beelzebub is all the proof you need that the design is shit at communicating what the frick it is. That's a shitty design that doesn't invoke its concept at all.
It was a shit design in that I didn't even realise she was a Sin. Asmodeus' design was good, yet I wouldn't have known he was Asmodeus specifically if he hadn't been prominently introduced as such. Similarly there isn't really enough of a concept of Beelzebub to be invoked. He's not even always associated with flies and that's like the one thing anyone knows about him.
Beelzebub literally means "Lord of Flies", its a hebrew caricature of Baal. Every high school has The Lord of the Flies book. Beelzebubs ONLY consistent tradition is flies.
>Beelzebubs ONLY consistent tradition is flies.
I already said that, and that not even that is 100% consistent.
Couldve even hinted at that with a line like "You attract more flies with honey than vinegar" or something, but nope.
Just designed a generic sparkledog and named it Beelzebub after the fact.
I'm glad people redesigned her and pissed Viv off.
I just wanted a sexy fly deamon, hell make her a Hellhound/bug hybrid leaning more to the bug side. Don't need her to be fat, but it would have been a bonus.
Remember hearing a theory that each ruler resembles a certain type of demon
>Asmodeus is apparently modeled after a rooster, and as such the avian Goetia
>Beelzebub looks like a hellhound
>Mammon will probably be a giant imp given his silhouette
>Leviathan a shark demon
>Satan a goat demon
>Lucifer looks human and so represents sinners
Not sure about Sloth though, don’t remember if there was anyone else I might be missing
I'm not a furry but why did they have to make her so sexo?
Because if they made the lord of gluttony fat, Viv's fans would remember that they're fat because they over eat and not because of "muh glands"
Would
>Belphagor is a woman
>Satan is a super jacked guy
What will they look like? I feel like we're also getting Mammon this season so we'll see what he looks like.
Belphagor will be a generic junkie party girl despite his portrait looking like this.
He should really be some lazy fatass inventor that sits at home with his pants off, but that'd be too fitting and fun for Viv's mindbroken ass.
Would
I prefer Barlowe's take on hell
Let's be real this is just people who were hoping for a queen bee lady with a thick abdomen upset they got just another anthro.
I'm a LooBlack person, homosexual. Beelzebub even being female is cringe.
The sins as presented would be better served as demons or overlords drawing power from said sins as warlocks, not the sins themselves. Then Viv could do whatever dumb shit she wants without taking a shit all over the scripture and mythology she 'researched'.
Cool. Wanna learn more. But its uselesess in slavland. https://hpi.uq.edu.au/research/area/witchcraft-and-demonology
Anyway youtube and internet exists
I actually wanted a fat bastard beelzebub sitting in some industral meat processing factory and on allegory on capitalism or consumerism or something
I mean that would be basic b***h edgy cartoon shit, but what we actually got was worse.
let's be honest both shows were fricking doomed as soon as people realized the audition leaks were real
>chad
>Stacy
Frick off, c**t.
She's having another meltdown over criticism.
Someone posted a tweet with a clip from Western Energy and every single reply is mocking Blitzos constant "shit piss cum frick" speech but drawing the line at moron
link to tweet?
It was in one of the other threads yesterday I think, one of the ones that got into moronic arguments with Vivzie shills. I couldnt find it otherwise I wouldve posted it
She says this, when she ruined Striker. She just made him incompetent and turned him into a dick joke.
If anyone should, it's Vivzie that should be getting new material.
I don't use Twitter all that much nor follow her socials outside of the show. Is she always like this when it comes to people making fun of/criticizing her work?
yes
we have helluvaboss episodes every 3 months and we have a vivzie episode every 2 weeks
Fair enough, I guess without her Twitter antics, these threads would be pretty empty until a new episode released.
The "this show is for adults" thing is insincere.
She def caters towards the Hot Topic teenager demographic the most.
with smaller brains, it's also the demographic that is the least critical of the bad writing decisions. So, the main fanbase.
Everything that is "for adults" isn't. That's why they completely removed talking to opposing teams in Battlefield and put in an incredibly sensitive profanity filter. No one is allowed to call each other a loser and have their feelings hurt, while shooting each other in the face.
I'm not joking.
>"That all we can dooo"
Bullshit, all she needs to do is cut the shit that fricks up her show out and it would be an instant improvement. Cut the gay soap opera subplot, bring back og plots the show was centered around, drop the shitty too edgy for you dialog and replace it with realistic sinner cruelty, write fitting jokes that center around said cruelty, fix the over board detailing in characters and BOOM.
Not only would this push away the baby audience but the step up would bring in more adults. She would never, though, she would sooner lazily cater to the 30 low IQ adults that unironicly dig this trash and unintentionally foster a gigantic minor audience than to try and muster any sort of effort for her shows. Probably because she knows edgy teens, coomers, and the mentality moronic are her main source of money makers, evil c**t.
She never grew of her teen mindset, has she?
I love Collin!
When you say you love Collin this is who you are showing love and affection to
>Two of the Seven Deadly sins fricking massively below their station and are show to actively care for the lower caste members they're fricking
>Satan so beloved by imps that they call to him by name much like humans do with god
the other 4 better be flat out bastards with no redeeming qualities
Don't count on it. Unfortunately, Lucifer will probably be a nice funny clown who loves his daughter and just somewhat disagrees with her ideas.
Thanks, I hate it
About the earliest information we got on Lucifer was that he was inspired by Goofy. Charlie's impression of him in the pilot would appear to confirm this.
>Satan so beloved by imps that they call to him by name much like humans do with god
Honestly i could see that working if it was due to satan forcing his subjects to worship him eventually turning into genuine veneration by some. Not only would it show how desperate satan is to be seen as a god but it would also double as “le ebgy critique of religion”
I figure it's just due to them not seeming as miserable as the Imps living in Pride
Why do I have the feeling they’re going to make him short because “haha little man syndrome”
To be fair Satan is a b***h ass homie.
There's no way Loona could compete, but they're gonna pretend she can anyway. She'll even win because she's almost a main character.
Given how Viv is, I wouldn't be surprised if Loona ended up with Bee.
That's just moronic enough for her to do it.
Loona should have dropped the whole thing after S1E3 and went to that party with the explicit purpose of getting railed by all those dogs
The more I look at Viv's twitter the more I'm convinced she needs to be beaten with a belt.
No Hazbin update yet. Usually they are posted by this time, looking at the timestamps of all the past tweets. I'm seeing more and more contention towards Viv and A24 on places like Reddit and Twitter too. Even the ass-licking fans are getting annoyed at the lack of marketing.
I thought they'd be usually the types TO put up with long waits and stuff.
Can someone please post more Lute?
Okay
Thanks
So Tex is dating on her is considered acceptable, but Blitzo and Stolas isn't? God this show sucks.
Was it a status thing or was it mostly the infidelity part that made Stolas and Blitzo so scandalous? Stella seems to care about the status thing but probably because she was groomed to relentlessly seek status. The princes just have it and always have, which is why Asmodeus is pretty clearly fricking that clown.
I thought Ke$ha's vag was haunted
That line was honestly painful.
How do you go from this...
oh wow, I assumed Vivzie was just always fat, it doesn't even look like there was much time between those pictures
Vivz has been gaining weight in parallel to the quality drop of Helluva Boss these past 2 years
If that were the case she would be like 1000+lbs by now
damn, maybe the extra fat cells are spilling into her brain
ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME PERSON???!!!!!
Fame, even if it's twitter furry animator famous, ruins a person. She should've stayed an invader zim furry fem autist
I dunno guys I like nuVivzie better
maybe it’s stress having to direct a show, maybe it’s overeating i dunno.
Gluttony, ironically enough. No wonder Bee is sanitized.
She ate the old VAs.
I wonder if Charlie is her self-insert and that is why Charlastor triggers her that much.
Like the creator of Welcome Home that got upset about people lewding the MC because they ship themselves with him kek
You don't have to wonder. It's obvious.
>Charlie's hair color changes to match with Vivzie's
>Charlie's weight stays the same
how curious
Charlie is attractive and beautiful. Viv is gross.
Yeah, that's why we think it's a self insert
here's the far previous photo
you’re bullshitting
...To this?
Maybe she'll be extra grotesquely fat in 10 years time
By Hazbin Hotel season 3 she'll be carried into the studio with a forklift.
Hot
It's nice to see not everyone in Hell is an absolute shithead degenerate just because they live in Hell.
That's not a nice thing to say about Florida, I think.
Uh, dude? Same guy. I've lived in Florida my whole life. The hell I see is inner cities, not my state.
So this is the girlfriend the wolf in ep 2 is talking about?
Yup. Vortex is dating Beelzebub, who is a honey-themed sparkledog woman instead of having anything to do with Beelzebub or flies.
Makes Hell feel small, doesn't it? Viv really making use of all that biblical research.
Too bad for biblegays then, I prefer coom over hairy dude surrounded by flies.
I know you do, coomer, because you think having a porn-addled brain is something to be proud of.
That's fine and I agree but she doesn't commit. I mean, we have comments from Viv saying she makes sure people don't consume to dangerous amounts.
She's the lord of frickin gluttony.
I ACTUALLY don't mind this sort of interpretation for Beelzebub. A big aspect for him is supposed to be gluttony and while I totally 100% get how the fly form does invoke that sort of thing I actually kinda like the idea that he, well she since this is a female version, would push gluttony as this sweet and easy thing. Cause no one gets tempted / drawn in by big fat slobbering guys or whatever. I only watched the music video cotton candy thing and I actually thought the way that she pushed everything towards an extreme excess and the fact that she was talking about 'cotton candy' aka something cheap and sweet but has no actual substance to it was pretty clever.
SMT still has the best Beezlebud design though
It also makes the whole "Forbidden Royal x Commoner" Stoltiz drama a plot hole because she's literally dating a hellhound without repercussions.
As much as one might say "but Stolas CHEATED on her with an imp", putting aside that demons probably wouldn't care about adultery, it definitely undermines the whole situation.
An excuse I’ve been given is that Stolas is only ever called out by people who are of equal standing or above him (Asmodeus and the Goetia), and Bee is third from the top on the totem pole with the rest of the sins- who is gonna call her out, especially when at this rate it seems like they’re all doing it?
>pic related
Stella literally gets mad at Stolas for cheating on her with an imp, not cheating on her, but doing it with an imp. Even Ozzie's highlight that sleeping with an imp is scandalous due to them being lower class.
Never said it was a good excuse, they also seemed to be unaware that we’ll be getting an episode about whether or not Asmodeus is a hypocrite
Overlord Stinkmeaner would be pretty funny
>Overlord Stinkmeaners minions are the black ninjas from black dynamite
>Head Ninja In Charge is his right hand man
It made sense for Lust to be fricking his bootshiner but everything about Gluttony's design choices are bizarre and the helhound boyfriend is only part and parcel.
The chick's design looks like utter dogshit at first but after watching the music video thing with her in it I think it looks a lot better in motion. So I still don't love it but it's been upgraded from fricking awful to meh.
I dont get it.
Also her fits more red
Loona is dressed as that evil fox lady from the unicorn warriors show that is waifu of the month.
Okay gonna check this out
Im prefer her Plantigrade legs
Feet
'sgood, yours?
Found it in e621
I wonder how successful the series would've been with the right streaming service and marketing department.
Should've jumped on the VTuber train and made some Alastor or Velvette VTuber videos as promotions