I’m moronic, and I don’t know the real answer but I’m guessing the reasoning behind the answers would be: >1kg: the flies are airbourne and thus don’t add mass to the jar >1.5kg: the flies are airbourne but the jar is sealed shut, therefore the flies add mass to the total jar weight because the air isn’t escaping
>Dissipation doesn't exist >Turbulence doesn't exist
You guys are as bad as Actiongay
This is dumb. Not to mention it wouldn't hurt. The pain, like light, can't escape a black hole. You'd just be disassembled on the atomic level. You wouldn't actually feel any pain since your pain receptors if they got into contact with it vanishes faster than light meaning you don't feel anything.
rockets are propelled into a vacuum and then expel material in order to change course, accelerate or decelerate
Newton’s third law, Brand. The only way humans have ever figured out of getting somewhere is to leave something behind.
A fly doesn't fly by expelling material but by pushing the air below it to create lift.
In a vacuum this isn't an option
The flies are pressing on the air which is pressing on the jar
If the jar were completely filled to the brim with flies it would be heavier, a small number of flies add weight too
Depends on the pressure inside the jar. If the pressure is enough that the flies will displace .5 kg of air then the jar would weigh slightly more than 1 kg.
assuming that the flies are all airborne, the scale will show on average 1.5kg because in order to stay aloft, the flies will propel air below them with a force concomitant with their collective weight.
>the flies will apply pressure to the scale of 0.5kg
let's imagine the jar is the exact same weight, but it's one mile tall
and the flies are in the top half of the jar
Will the flies still apply pressure to the scale?
The distance that flies will apply any noticable pressure is probably in the range of 4-5cm
the static air pressure provides resistance, and since the jar isn't infinitely wide, so do the walls of the jar
ask yourself why pressure doesn't change with the width of a container
it's a clever way of seeding doubt but if the jar is closed it's still a closed system and the total mass of the system is 1.5kg and that's what the scale would show
there's an interesting aside to this, that if all the flies are flying at the top of the jar and at some point stop flying at the same time, during their freefall from the top of the jar to the bottom, they would not be exercising any force and so the scale would show a different measurement for the duration of the fall
I’m moronic, and I don’t know the real answer but I’m guessing the reasoning behind the answers would be: >1kg: the flies are airbourne and thus don’t add mass to the jar >1.5kg: the flies are airbourne but the jar is sealed shut, therefore the flies add mass to the total jar weight because the air isn’t escaping
the jar is a closed system
if the jar were open, maybe some of the air current the flies were generating to create lift would escape but if there is a top on the jar, all the energy propelling the flies upwards is creating an equal but opposing force downwards towards the scale
if the flies collectively weight .5kg, that's how much will be added to the weight of the jar
another way to think of it is if the jar were full of water and it weighed 1kg with the water. now you add .5kg of flies that float around.
what does the scale show?
The force (measured in the same units as weight) exerted by the flies to stay flying is directed downwards, so their full weight is measured by the scale.
but the flies arent actually weighing down the jar because they are in mid air, therefor weightless. Like a plane doesnt weigh 3 tons when its flying, cruiseships become weightless once they are floating
The gay moron flies will create some air pressure that will hit the scale. The air going by the walls will lose a bit of force to friction which turns to heat and escape the jar. So <1.5kg
I only posted it so I could easily open that video from bed on my phone wihh the embed link. I haven't actually seen it yet and I stole it from a reddit thread that I couldn't be bothered to navigate to on my phone.
>ThE AiR sPrEads OuT aNd ThE ScALe iSn'T wIdE eNOuGh
If Actiongay were right then there wouldn't be any buildings near airports because they'd be flattened, when on my last flight we literally flew 50 feet above one of the buildings before touching down
Turbulence exists. Dissipation exists. Actiongay is a midwit and so are you.
I'm not saying that, morono
I'm saying the force on the ground is never going to be equivalent to the lifting force, not because it "spreads out" but because dissipation mechanisms like turbulence and friction exist and dissipate some of that pressure/energy before it reached the ground
Don't take my word for it, you can see it right fricking here
I refuse to bow to the fake science community. Air doesn't weight anything. Flying stuff doesn't weight anything. A flposne on a treadmill won't take off.
stealth AIC thread
assuming that the jar is airtight, it would weigh the same as the air pressure from the wings would push down o the bottom of the jar.
Same force is applied irrespective of the jar being sealed or not.
>Dissipation doesn't exist
>Turbulence doesn't exist
You guys are as bad as Actiongay
Slightly above 1 kg
get those bugs off my fricking scale you nimwit
>what does the scale read
F U L L
Depends if the scale is in sunlight or in shadow
Allow me to demonstrate OP
>*Folds paper in half and puts a pencil through it*
english doc!
This is dumb. Not to mention it wouldn't hurt. The pain, like light, can't escape a black hole. You'd just be disassembled on the atomic level. You wouldn't actually feel any pain since your pain receptors if they got into contact with it vanishes faster than light meaning you don't feel anything.
Are the flies flying in a vaccum or is there air inside the jar?
>flying in a vaccum
>how do rockets work
>how did we even get to the moon
moron
Those were propelled through a vaccum
rockets are propelled into a vacuum and then expel material in order to change course, accelerate or decelerate
Newton’s third law, Brand. The only way humans have ever figured out of getting somewhere is to leave something behind.
A fly doesn't fly by expelling material but by pushing the air below it to create lift.
In a vacuum this isn't an option
that's not how any of this works ameritard
flies fly because when they move their wings relative to their body their center of mass is shifted upwards
good bait but I'm not taking it
>inb4 "I accept your concession"
sure. I concede.
you're no fun
My centre of mass is above my feet. Am I flying right now?
you're not strong enough
>>how did we even get to the moon
moron
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>how did we even get to the moon
moron
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moron
those are some heavy flies
1 kg
The flies aren't pressing down on the scale but the jar is.
The flies are pressing on the air which is pressing on the jar
If the jar were completely filled to the brim with flies it would be heavier, a small number of flies add weight too
Anybody saying 1kg is a troll. The answer is the same as if it was water. 1.5kg
Depends on the pressure inside the jar. If the pressure is enough that the flies will displace .5 kg of air then the jar would weigh slightly more than 1 kg.
assuming that the flies are all airborne, the scale will show on average 1.5kg because in order to stay aloft, the flies will propel air below them with a force concomitant with their collective weight.
>the flies will apply pressure to the scale of 0.5kg
let's imagine the jar is the exact same weight, but it's one mile tall
and the flies are in the top half of the jar
Will the flies still apply pressure to the scale?
The distance that flies will apply any noticable pressure is probably in the range of 4-5cm
Their exerted force just...disappears?
the static air pressure provides resistance, and since the jar isn't infinitely wide, so do the walls of the jar
ask yourself why pressure doesn't change with the width of a container
No, moron. There is space between air molecules and they cushon the movement and the absorb the force
it's a clever way of seeding doubt but if the jar is closed it's still a closed system and the total mass of the system is 1.5kg and that's what the scale would show
there's an interesting aside to this, that if all the flies are flying at the top of the jar and at some point stop flying at the same time, during their freefall from the top of the jar to the bottom, they would not be exercising any force and so the scale would show a different measurement for the duration of the fall
So you’re saying if a bird flies over me while I’m on a scale the scale will change to include it’s mass? Kek
That's like 10000 flies lmfao
I’m moronic, and I don’t know the real answer but I’m guessing the reasoning behind the answers would be:
>1kg: the flies are airbourne and thus don’t add mass to the jar
>1.5kg: the flies are airbourne but the jar is sealed shut, therefore the flies add mass to the total jar weight because the air isn’t escaping
the jar is a closed system
if the jar were open, maybe some of the air current the flies were generating to create lift would escape but if there is a top on the jar, all the energy propelling the flies upwards is creating an equal but opposing force downwards towards the scale
if the flies collectively weight .5kg, that's how much will be added to the weight of the jar
another way to think of it is if the jar were full of water and it weighed 1kg with the water. now you add .5kg of flies that float around.
what does the scale show?
The force (measured in the same units as weight) exerted by the flies to stay flying is directed downwards, so their full weight is measured by the scale.
The answer is 1kg
>nooo but the heckin flies are flapping their wings to stay in the air
So what.
How are these obesesm flues able to fly?
>hold a 5 pound weight over a scale with my hand it would read 5 pounds on the scale.
you people are literal fricking morons
> Ctrl+F "free body diagram"
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The state of Cinemaphile
It's 1.5, you fricking idiots. This is like a 1st grade math problem. What the frick is wrong with you morons?
but the flies arent actually weighing down the jar because they are in mid air, therefor weightless. Like a plane doesnt weigh 3 tons when its flying, cruiseships become weightless once they are floating
>thinks flying = weightless
Being this stupid should be a criminal offense. 10 years in a reeducation camp or summary execution.
The gay moron flies will create some air pressure that will hit the scale. The air going by the walls will lose a bit of force to friction which turns to heat and escape the jar. So <1.5kg
Answer is 1.5 kg
we know
everyone is just trolling
I only posted it so I could easily open that video from bed on my phone wihh the embed link. I haven't actually seen it yet and I stole it from a reddit thread that I couldn't be bothered to navigate to on my phone.
>ThE AiR sPrEads OuT aNd ThE ScALe iSn'T wIdE eNOuGh
If Actiongay were right then there wouldn't be any buildings near airports because they'd be flattened, when on my last flight we literally flew 50 feet above one of the buildings before touching down
Turbulence exists. Dissipation exists. Actiongay is a midwit and so are you.
>planes flying overhead dont exert force downwards
I'm not saying that, morono
I'm saying the force on the ground is never going to be equivalent to the lifting force, not because it "spreads out" but because dissipation mechanisms like turbulence and friction exist and dissipate some of that pressure/energy before it reached the ground
Don't take my word for it, you can see it right fricking here
that's a fake nasa cgi image
damn that kid smart fr
I refuse to bow to the fake science community. Air doesn't weight anything. Flying stuff doesn't weight anything. A flposne on a treadmill won't take off.
is it at sea level or in a mountaintop?