Has the land of Xi made any TV or movies worth watching? Preferably not shanghaied from Seoul or Tokyo of course.
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I liked Wild Goose Lake. Better Days was comfy too
Yeah but they tend to be a) depressing and b) heavily based around chinese life or c) chinese period pieces. They all have to get cleared by the government before they're allowed to be made, which is why Johnnie To can't make his third Election movie, coz if he does they won't let him back in the mainland, and he had to change the ending of Drug War (originally the mc got away).
>Better Days
Didn't like that much. Too much teen romance coming of age shmaltz. Lots of forced emotion nonsense.
>or c) chinese period pieces.
The Americans suck at making those and now a lot of the British ones are sabotaged by insane, ideological race casting. If I'm going to watch period pieces they have to be South Korean, Russian or Chinese now.
They have only one book and it's dynasty warriors fan fiction
Not since Red Cliffs.
The main problem in Chinese cinema at the moment is ironically the lack of diversity.
>GASP
I know, but hear me. Because everything has to please Bejing all the female characters, and I mean ALL the female character, are as close as possible to what would be a perfect 10 in Bejing. To western eyes they all look exactly the fricking same, it is simply impossible to tell the female characters apart.
Additionally, because Mandarin is now enforced in basically all Chinese pop-culture, all of the talented Cantonese film makers and stories have to work in a language that doesn't have the same rules of poetry. It's like converting Shakespear to French it just doesn't work.
But finally, because all the changes are to appease Bejing, complaining about that aspect of it is a good way to lose your job, while praising how much better it is is a good way to get a good deal on a home loan.
The parallels to Hollywood should be clear to everyone here, but it is kind of interesting how the other extreme is just as bad. Art and critique needs to be free of politics, it doesn't work any other way.
>it is simply impossible to tell the female characters apart.
You're a fricken idiot.
No, I'm not. I'm not even being racist.
They're all the same height, with the same face, with the same hairstyle, and the same voice.
I remember trying to watch one and I was two thirds through the movie, confused as frick, when I realize that the female lead was actually two female leads and they were supposed to be mother and daughter. I still didn't know which one was which by the end of it.
You're a total moron
Chang look at the first two pictures. Are they the same girl? I don't fricking know, maybe. Same nose, same mouth, same eyes, same hairstyle same pose.
Is one of them the same as the fourth pic? Could be, don't know.
Pretty sure the first one on the second row is number 2 but not number 1 though, which is just confusing and I'm done trying.
You tend to be able to differentiate faces from your own ethnic group better, its simple science. No need to get racial.
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>To western eyes...
But it's more than that, it's they have a very specific idea of what a Chinese woman should look like and cast exclusively women who look like that.
I can tell the difference between Henwick and Waspfu (granted they are hapa) just fine, they're both incredibly attractive to me even though they look completely different.
Why are you so angry, he's right. They all have the exact same plastic surgery.
You are correct and I completely agree with you.
I don't quite agree with you. There are ways to work around it. Hongkong people can work with mandarin.
I do agree that all women look alike. They could do something about it.
>Hongkong people can work with mandarin.
For how much longer tho?
I actually think Screen Australia should nick all the creative talent from Hong Kong, set them up on the Gold Coast and just fund whatever they want to make in English, Cantonese, Chinglish, whatever they like. Then set up a streaming server that can be easily accessed from within China.
We're kind of up to our eyeballs in Asians these days which is a problem, but it would be worth it just to watch Bejing seethe.
They have been selling movies to the mainland since 70s. They recruited talents from Southeast Asia, Taiwan and Mainland. they trained Jet Li to speak Cantonese and English. When he can't they dubbed him.
I know that there is a barrier in mandarin. But they have been working with it since their golden age.
Sure, so we bring them to a real country, completely release them from any censorship, then tweet the link for our new "Chinese language" streaming service to the Chinese Foreign Ministry.
It's going to be fricking hilarious I'm telling you.
I liked Three Kingdoms until Cao Cao died.
Black Coal, Thin Ice
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cool handheld photography
Lol I think this is from a Canadian Eskimo settlement
Black Coal Thin Ice and Wild Goose Lake are both excellent neo noirish movies.
the assassin is beautiful
>directed by Taiwanese director
oh wait
The Warrior Wolf movies are good if you liked over the top action films, like Rambo, Delta Force or Commando.
They're garbage when compared to those. I honestly want a fricking movie where a retired chicom goes ape shit hunting down militiamen in the Congo a la Rambo, but with a proper R rating. Or maybe even a North Korea movie but without the large scale bullshit, but instead one of them hunting down GIs behind enemy lines in an hour of intense commando kino.
Warrior Wolf two is all about him gunning down Western mercs and African rebels. it has a bit more sentimentality than Western films but the action is good.
as shump fu goes it isn't bad at all.
Why don't you people like the tomb adventures franchise
Or the Xiuzhen fantasy
They make plenty of stuff, the leaders today are mostly tencent, bilibili and iQiyi. Bear in mind eastern media is a lot different from media from the west so you might not like it.
Not since Red Cliff and the Gang Jiong, Tai Jiong comedy movies by that bald guy. Xi has completely neutered the industry. We should have started getting political intrigue kino by now and instead we have garbage teen wistfulness and propaganda films.
China makes like 1 good movie every 3 years. China is probably the least creative country in the world.
Are you moronic? Chinese films have been in the top 10 highest grossing lists every year for the last decade. Hell, most of the big name films you see today are even financed by chinese money.
You're moronic, Chang.
1) Nobody trusts numbers from China. China is the most disreputable country in the world when it comes to statistics.
2) Popularity is not a good measure of quality. Chinese movies are shit. Only Chinese people watch them.
>Popularity is not a good measure of quality.
Maybe not to neckbeards on Cinemaphile or criterion consumers but if that many people go to watch a film that it makes it to the top 10 grossing I think its pretty fricking moronic to say that movie is not "good". I'd advise you to take your elitist attitude and go frick yourself 🙂
You can watch all the Chinese movies you want when you go back home to your motherland, Chang. The rest of the world doesn't give a damn about Chinese movies because they suck.
I'm actually white, I just find chinese culture interesting. That being said, 你妈的,白痴。
>I'm actually white
OK Chang.
You got any actual original insults or you just want to say chang again burger boy? How about ching chong? You guys love that one don't ya? Kys you unoriginal frick.
Chang is the only insult I need.
你妈的,白痴? Did you put this shit in Google translate after the village slag you're fricking didn't help out, Mr ESL?
>The rest of the world doesn't give a damn about Chinese movies
I do, there are some goods ones. I enjoy the colour and vibrant visuals that the Western industry seems to hate. There are some good martial arts movies made by extremely talented actors. The "China numba one!" propaganda is less offensive and much less disgusting than Hollywood's homosexual propaganda.
poor bait
You're both moronic
Is this a fricking joke? Their home audience is the equivalent of an entire continent. Of course they gross higher when the government bans alternatives, freely markets, and subsidizes box office for "patriotic films".
> 1 good movie every 3 years
That's actually an acceptable rate to me
The Wandering Earth is the only kino chinsect film I've seen.
hero
>the land of Xi
You mean the years of Xi, 2012-present, right?
So movies before 2012 should be excluded. In fact I think movies in 2012 and 13 should be too, because those were still made without Xi's influence.
It's generally believed, that between 2001 China's entry to WTO and 2012, China was in its pro-western and pro-liberalism honeymoon. It was also a time when Chinese entertainment industry grew exponentially.
Since 2013 Xi enhanced patriotism theme and censorship. Xi cracked down on several genres that were popular back then: reality shows, talent shows, time-travel themes, horrors etc.
I think they made a boys band kid join a Korean War movie. Not sure if it's really that different though.
Joy of Life, Night Fall are pretty good. Hell, anything that is chink dynasty military drama or xianxia and wuxia is dumb fun
I enjoyed Big Soldier, Little Soldier recently. It was fun. There is also:
The Taking of Tiger Mountain
The Sacrifice
Hero
Red Cliff
Tsui Hark and Tony Leung doing their tricks.
Tony Leung in hunchback makeup looks great.
The Chinese American kid is cringe though
since you didnt exclude it, everything from Hong Kong
People should try The Sacrifice. It's about the Chinese getting bombed to shit while trying to cross a bridge in the Korean War. There is a non-linear plot structure that builds up the climax very well and the American pilot character is a badass.
Is Cinemaphile the only board that loves china? Look at how people itt gush about Chinese cinema
if you can't seperate politics from kino then you're a fricking moron who probably spends too much time in /misc/
>Look at how people itt gush about Chinese cinema
I don't like China all that much but Hollywood can't even make the "Man Hits People with Sword" movie.
>Brotherhood of Blades
>Brotherhood of Blades II: The Infernal Battlefield
>God of War
>Is Cinemaphile the only board that loves china?
Kek no. They're Changs.
> Look at how people itt gush about Chinese cinema
if this is gushing, then chinese cinema is worse than I thought
I like plenty of Chinese swordfighting/fantasy movies. You don't get much of them elsewhere.
>Saving General Yang
>Double World
>Big Little Soldier
>The Curse of Turandot
>Rise of the Legend
Shadow could have been a 10/10 movie but then the ending turned into a comical farce of moron fake martial arts and stunts.
Tsui Hark's stuff is fun.
Hero is kino movie both thematically and visually.
Chinese is a really ugly language.
Agreed, after a handful of SEAmonkey languages I'd say Chinese is the hardest to listen to. Waaay worse than Korean and Japanese.
I worked with some Indonesian guys, their language is strange but after a while you get used to it, even when you don't understand it there is some kind of logic and rhythm to it
Working with Chinese and listening to them is hell, noises angry monkeys make are more pleasant to listen than their conversations
I meant more like Vietnamese and Thai
So is Japanese when its not in your fricking cartoon shows you fricking weeaboo. There are far more ugly languages than pleasant ones
Calm down, Chang.
Well, to the few people ITT who actually wanna discuss movies, I recommend my favorite Chinese movie.
It's on youtube right now. I think I like it so much because it's an indie movie and not one of those stupid formulaic big budget Chinese movies. Some of those are alright, but I don't really like 90% of them.