Thematically very appropriate since Dune is a series all about setting in motion things much much greater and more terrible than you could have ever realized
This annoys the hell out of me. I know Lynch hates director's cuts and working on 84 Dune was such a miserable experience he swore off blockbusters but if he went back and did a proper recut of the film we would have a Dune renaissance alongside the new films.
Lynch hates that he didn't have final cut. That's literally all there is to it.
You Villeneuve drones need to stop spamming half-truths and out-of-context quotes.
Lynch Dune had really bad pacing and basically skipped over the part where Paul actually integrates himself with the Fremen and becomes Lisan al-Gaib.
There's a reason that ᑐᑌᑎᑕ had to be split into two parts.
>basically skipped over the part where Paul actually integrates himself with the Fremen and becomes Lisan al-Gaib
Would it blow you away if I said he spent more time on it? I don't mean languid slow shots going nowhere spanning two tedious, drab episodes. I mean actual details.
Ah yes, I remember when Paul and Chani's relationship was developed in narration where we are told "Paul and Chani's love grew" superimposed over a fade in of Kyle Machlachlan and Sean Young awkwardly making out
This is delusion I've never seen before. Hate Dunc all you want but Dunc 2 actually has the first half be dedicated to Paul fighting with the Fremen while Lynch's Dune has narration over a few minutes of Paul teaching the Fremen how to use the Weirding modules and kissing Chani.
There are more details in a shorter span of time described in the 84 version. I get you disgusting leftist trash want this to go away, but here we are. Dunc is a shit movie. Above all it was directed by a fricking coward who cut out Alia knifing the Baron.
That's what you are defending. You will also never be women. The Bene Gesserit would consider you subhuman abominations. Just so we are clear.
This is delusion I've never seen before. Hate Dunc all you want but Dunc 2 actually has the first half be dedicated to Paul fighting with the Fremen while Lynch's Dune has narration over a few minutes of Paul teaching the Fremen how to use the Weirding modules and kissing Chani.
Wrong. You never even see how he's making his name known in the empire, it's all about Chani. Also, there's no chemistry between Chalamet and Zendaya. Null.
>You never even see how he's making his name known in the empire
The Harkonnen are afraid of him to the point Rabban books it when he sees him and the Emperor and Irulan have an entire discussion about what to do with him because of how dangerous he is. You can't make up complete bullshit when it's only been a month and everyone still remembers the movie.
I saw an entire discussion about how dangerous he is after he blew up so many spice harvesters they were all going dark over the map of Arrakis and he had even pushed up to Arrakeen. Genuinely, what schizophrenic point are you trying to make?
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Except the one we see gets blown up by Chaniqa, you eunuch dimwit.
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Paul doesn't personally blow up any of them you fricking moron but he's leading the entire operation. Was that not made obvious by him overlooking the lasering of one of the harvesters and Chani saying that the Fedaykin count his victories? Was him leading the charge against Rabban's attack just sitting around doing nothing? I don't know if you have a sub 80 IQ or if you're this desperate to shitpost.
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We don't see him command troops either (before meeting Gurney again). Keep defending the cuckoldry, cumgobbler.
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I'm convinced that literally every person who's angry about DUNC is some kind of right wing incel and/or a nostalgia baiting moron
Right wing incels are the future. Your freak show of a political ideology literally only attracts the weak and sterile.
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>We don't see him command troops either
He's the one who's commanding the attack against Rabban. Once again, the movie is 1 month old. We all remember it.
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>Right wing incels are the future. Your freak show of a political ideology literally only attracts the weak and sterile.
>I am strong and virile, says the virgin angrily misrepresenting a film because he's upset that the lead actress is a mutt and the film is more popularly regarded than the shitty movie he watched as a toddler
2 weeks ago
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> popularly regarded
pleb
2 weeks ago
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There are more details in a shorter span of time described in the 84 version. I get you disgusting leftist trash want this to go away, but here we are. Dunc is a shit movie. Above all it was directed by a fricking coward who cut out Alia knifing the Baron.
That's what you are defending. You will also never be women. The Bene Gesserit would consider you subhuman abominations. Just so we are clear.
I'm convinced that literally every person who's angry about DUNC is some kind of right wing incel and/or a nostalgia baiting moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes. And this makes you irrational and angry. It was a good win.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm convinced everyone slopping DUNC up has to be artistically moronic and can't recognize terrible writing.
>You never even see how he's making his name known in the empire, it's all about Chani.
You are either an excellent b8er or completely, clinically insane/moronic. There were multiple scenes purely dedicated to the imperial reaction of Paul making his name known. Characters talk about it fricking constantly. Chani just has a different role now as an audience surrogate criticizing Paul more than a love interest, which you can say whatever you want about but she was very very clearly not the focus of the story. You are a fool, and I could probably kill you in hand-to-hand combat IRL.
The reaction to nothing we see, you absolute libtard. Why even teach you people how to read and write if you remain functionally illiterate anyway. Dumb.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>libtard
can you stop bringing your own political and sexual insecurities into this argument for even one second?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>insecurities
I'm good (having a fully coherent worldview), unlike your identity issues driven ilk.
2 weeks ago
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We SEE him lure Rabban into a trap after blowing up the spice reserves, pick off a bunch of his soldiers one by one and then lead the charge against him while the Fremen are shoting Muad'Dib. Please do the gene pool a favor and off yourself.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fine. One short scene where you can barely see him but at least he isn't upstaged by Chani. Granted. My overall point still stands. Villeneuve confirmed it.
2 weeks ago
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>Oh, I was wrong, let me keep shitposting
Concession fricking accepted
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Keep choking on those schlongs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not doing anything of the sort, I haven't brought up politics once in this discussion unlike you and some of the morons arguing on my side. I said your claim that Lynch's Dune showed more of his ingratiation with the Fremen was wrong, that's fricking it.
2 weeks ago
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>pic
must be a diversion tactic because if you actually consider something your secret weapon you don't announce it in advance.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Let's adapt this blue book >But let's make it all red
I will never understand. >But it doesn't work on film!!!!!
Money hungry homosexuals
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The scene where the Emperor and Irulan discuss how to deal with Muad'dib is immediately preceded by a scene where Paul bombs Arakeen's main spice depot, lures Rabban into a trap, and then he and his men completely wipe the Harkonnen force.
Did you even actually watch the movie or are you entirely operating on secondhand info from other angry virgins in your right wing incel circlejerk echochamber?
I mog the both of you easily. Keep seething, impotent libtards.
2 weeks ago
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post body
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Anonymous
No. In that teeny-tiny, deeply buried part of your demented mind, the part that has remained sane, you know I'm speaking true and it makes your blood boil. Seethe until your head explodes for all I care.
2 weeks ago
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yes I am truly envious of the schizo arguing authoritatively about a movie he clearly hasn't seen then going on grandiose monologues about his inherent superiority like an anime villain when caught. Clearly this is a sane and well-adjusted individual who has meaningful employment and has sex
2 weeks ago
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>and has sex
You banging a below mid chick like every other month isn't the achievement you pretend it is. I have to turn women down.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I find it curious that you didn't deny the accusation that you haven't seen the movie. What are you even trying to prove at this point?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What a dumb thing to say.
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Anonymous
The scene where the Emperor and Irulan discuss how to deal with Muad'dib is immediately preceded by a scene where Paul bombs Arakeen's main spice depot, lures Rabban into a trap, and then he and his men completely wipe the Harkonnen force.
Did you even actually watch the movie or are you entirely operating on secondhand info from other angry virgins in your right wing incel circlejerk echochamber?
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Anonymous
Alright you win, you got my (you). You're prob pasty as frick and out of shape though homosexual
And when then, Dunc part 2 suffers from pacing problems and too many cut out scenes as shown by the faxr that theres a scene. Dune should have been a 3 part movie.
Lynch Dunk is only cool in retrospective because of how theatrical it was making it have potential to become a cult hit but it's overal an absurd fever dreamesque experience.
At least compare the equivalent scenes and then say Dunc is shit.
>99.99% of people there can't see what's happening, just have to wait and cheer or yell based on what the people in front of them do
Stupid way to set up for a meeting. Fremen are aware of the technology that is "raised platforms"
Actually this is the more appropriate equivalent shot since this the actual preamble to the attack on the Imperial tent. Your scene is from when Muad'Dib claims leadership of the Fremen, which I don't think ever actually happens in LynchDune
It looks like shit.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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David Lynch Dune is untouchable.
It's perfect on every level, unquestionably.
Nudunc is a weak Women's Studies seminar.
Let's be real, only like 60 people heard Paul's weak effeminate voice and the other 200k cave dwellers were like 'SHHH I CAN'T HEAR SHIT WHAT HE SAYS???'
Actually this is the more appropriate equivalent shot since this the actual preamble to the attack on the Imperial tent. Your scene is from when Muad'Dib claims leadership of the Fremen, which I don't think ever actually happens in LynchDune
man imagine the line for the bathroom in that place and imagine the smell of a bunch of people that don't shower and shit in their pants all sitting in the same room
what happens to their poop, they walk around with smelly shit in their pants? even if they had some magical dehydration device to get all the water out, what happens to the dried poop husk? do they just take them out of their ass and throw them in the sand? or do they turn it into turd jerky to completely conserve all resources?
do they have a colostomy bag sort of apparatus, or do they just shit out of their buttholes and somehow the shit magically gets recycled? no shit smooshing around their buttcheeks? what happens to the poop smears as the shit comes out of their ass in the suit? does the fabric not absorb any odors? wouldn't their skin meaning they all constantly smell like feces outside of the suit?
unironicially do the books answer any of these questions?
In the book, Feyd represents that there is no heroism in the israeli capitalist death cult, they can only offer a glib facsimile. Feyd is a coward, he's not particularly skilled, just underhanded and good at manipulating people. he's in no actual danger when he fights the slave in the book, and when the slave starts winning, Feyd gets pissed off this lowly Atreides slave is kicking his ass and then he cheats, because all Harkonnens are cowards.
Austin Butler's Feyd actually IS that guy, who is Muad'dib's equal and opposite and willing to fight to the death. He's an incredibly entertaining character, but I understand why book purists might find him a bit disappointing or less complex.
>He's an incredibly entertaining character, I understand why book purists might find him a bit disappointing or less complex.
I agree with you, and ultimately, I can't really fault Denis for wanting to try something different, as the second half of the book isn't really as interesting as the first.
I'd say Dunc Harkonnens are a blend of the book Harkonnens, Space Navigators (monstrous aesthetic), and Count Fenring (unpredictable "almost" Kwisatz Haderach). It wasn't necessarily a good idea to do the Harkonnens this way, but I did find it very interesting to watch.
It's part of why altogether, I think DUNC 2 is a much better movie than DUNC 1. Part 1 has no appeal if you haven't read the book (and it's not even that good if you have), but with DUNC 2, Denis grew some balls and struck out on his own. Does it cut a lot? Yes, but I think in the end, Dune's a thing where the setting is more interesting than the actual plot, and Denis gives a fairly compelling take on the setting.
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am I the only one who never read the books and really likes DUNC 1? to me Dunc 1 is a good movie and Dunc 2 a great one. my biggest fears after part 1 were that part 2 would either >try to deliver on the tension built by part 1 and fail because it's just incoherent action bombast where the plot goes nowhere
or >try to just keep going with the slow world building and never deliver on what part 1 promises
Dunc 2 delivered on absolutely every expectation I had. my main complaint about Dunc 2 is the repeated "Harkonnen's mistreat their underlings to remind you they're really evil" scenes. I would cut basically all of those. and then I would cut about half of Chani's scenes, or cut the scenes themselves in half, whichever way works best for the pacing. that's it though, no other flaws. I'm even okay with Florence Pugh being cast as the princess because imagine if they cast a 9/10 hot girl in that role. it would be impossible to believe that Paul is going to stay attracted to Zendaya (bit of a stretch to begin with) once he's married to a model.
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I don't think DUNC 1 is a bad film, but I'm curious what you liked about it if you didn't read the book. The only emotional draw in the film is that it constantly alludes to the inevitable jihad, but this is not conveyed with any clarity at all; I think Paul's visions only make sense if you already know what they mean. Hinging the audience's only emotional connection on something so vague and unintuitive seems like a very poor choice. >imagine if they cast a 9/10 hot girl in that role. it would be impossible to believe that Paul is going to stay attracted to Zendaya (bit of a stretch to begin with) once he's married to a model.
Good point. I did wish they went with Debicki or even Taylor-Joy for Irulan, but you're right. There's also a narrative benefit in Irulan not being inherently desirable as a person, just as a political tool, so although the book describes her as beautiful and all, Pugh's look is overall an acceptable adaptational change.
I think Zendaya has the sort of face that benefits greatly from makeup, but it would be inappropriate to give Chani makeup, so it didn't really work.
I recall the Paul vs Feyd flight being so underwhelming in the book (although that was sort of the point). I get why they couldn't take that route in the film, but they do need to take measures to establish just how overpowered Paul is in the Messiah adaptation.
I don't have high hopes for that based on how much they set up the Chani drama.
Yeah. If Denis isn't doing the sequels, he's probably not doing Leto, so he'll probably not have Chani come back to Paul, and in fact he'll probably have her kill him. It's notable he made the Fremen a lot more sympathetic to contemporary audiences in 2, which raises the question of how he'll handle the mass genocides in 3, but the payoff is probably going to be in Chani just killing Paul. "Secret weapon" indeed.
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Anonymous
Chani will blind Paul with a knife while Paul kills her
No way Denis will miss out on having Paul walk into the desert at the end
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Anonymous
I wonder if Edric will be less of a bullied little b***h. Or maybe that comedy element will be played up and he'll straight up be accompanied by Looney Tunes sound effects and the other plotters pulling pranks on him all the time. I'm excited to see Scytale and his cool moves.
Chani will blind Paul with a knife while Paul kills her
No way Denis will miss out on having Paul walk into the desert at the end
Agreed, Paul walking into the desert was probably a solid 20% of Villeneuve's motivation to film these in the first place.
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>Dunc 2 delivered on absolutely every expectation I had.
Having low expectation doesn't make a film good.
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Anonymous
I recall the Paul vs Feyd flight being so underwhelming in the book (although that was sort of the point). I get why they couldn't take that route in the film, but they do need to take measures to establish just how overpowered Paul is in the Messiah adaptation.
I don't have high hopes for that based on how much they set up the Chani drama.
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>Dune's a thing where the setting is more interesting than the actual plot, and Denis gives a fairly compelling take on the setting.
It's not perfect but it's got the perfect baron. Both of the movies try to make him into some kind of supernaturally evil character, but in the books and miniseries he's just a flamboyant old poofter who gets in over his head. The costumes were kino as well, but the pacing is almost as bad as the Lynch movie.
However, if you said I could only watch one again it'd probably be 1984 version. The set pieces, the bombastic music, non-Zendaya Chani, the tone in general, I love it.
Normie "men" have developed women brains via social media brainwashing and lack of coherent worldview. Oversocialized like crazy. They just repeat what the institutions put out.
this mutt b***h is beyond fricking ugly and can't act, so fricking tired of seeing here everywhere, find a prettier brown girl for fricks sake, give us some fricking variety if you refuse to cast white people
Are the Harkonnen automatically Roman because they hold marches and have a Colosseum? just because something borrows cultural ideas does not make it the culture itself. Nice room temp deductions.
Do the Harkonnens have Roman names and have a leader called a consul while talking about imperium sine fine? For frick's sake in the book their holy war is literally called a Jihad. Stop being obtuse.
Because they are brown and Muslim for the most part. Did Lisan al-Gaib and Mahdi not tip you off?
the arab oil country parallels were obvious all along in the books. of course they're arab and therefore muslim inspired. they're a desert people sitting on an incredibly important natural resource needed for TRAVEL ffs. making them anything other than arab muslim types would be hacky, like you're pretending to be original, trying to distract from your obvious inspirations.
They are all of the slaves of humanity who survived. Everything below the equator is what fremen are. Chani is mixed. She's not white. We know how she looks because of some descriptions of her, the fremen and her parent Zendaya is pretty much right on but she's a little too tall.
To make her white is utterly insane. But it's lynch his shit was way off source material. The sci version got closer to chani. Red hair, slender, oval face high cheek bones brown but not arab or black or white. She's supposed to be pretty but goes feral in battle.
Zendaya was right on. Paul same. Baron should have been john Goodman and had hair. Feyd minus the hair by was perfect. Walken was a little old but he did well. Duncan was right.
Irulan was bad. That made no sense. Maybe she got fat on accident. They kind of toned Jessica's beauty down.jessica is supposed to be drop dead gorgeous.
>Ancient genomes from North Africa evidence prehistoric migrations to the Maghreb from both the Levant and Europe
Genetic data from present-day populations suggests that North African ancestry has contributions from four main sources: (i) an autochthonous Maghrebi component related to a back migration to Africa ∼12,000 y ago from Eurasia; (ii) a Middle Eastern component probably associated with the Arab conquest; (iii) a sub-Saharan component derived from trans-Saharan migrations; and (iv) a European component that has been linked to recent historic movements.
The Tuareg Berbers are of the same stock as the (eurasian) North African Berbers. The difference is they migrated southwards and had much more interactions (trade, marriage, slave trade) with black Africans who were living in the Sahara and the Sahel for thousands of years, which would correlate with a higher amount of West African components in their DNA
literally european dna in them
the lebanese? remember the crusades? lol
>remember the crusades
Because the only time white people have been in Asia minor and north Africa was during the crusades you stupid frick
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>the only time white people have been in Asia minor and north Africa
in large numbers, fricking everything that moved?
yeah. a little more during WW2 probably.
Yeah, sure, there's some European DNA in there and many north africans and middle easterners in the levant could well be meds but this sure as hell isn't northern European anon. Either way a qt actress like this would be a good Chani too.
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She wasn't white. Chani was never and has never been white. It's openly stated. She's half wild fremen. Her "tribe" is basically berber and her dad was more or less a blonde "Hispanic". He's mixed.
It is very clear what her skin color was
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>It is very clear what her skin color was
Northern Italian at the absolute darkest
I was in love with a Moroccan woman once, trust me that some of them can be very very light. And I've never even met one with a blond father before.
2 weeks ago
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>Chani was never and has never been white. It's openly stated
Quote it now motherfricker or your mother will get blacked by a pack of wild Blacks tonight
>toned Jessica's beauty down
In Dunc?! Rebecca Ferguson is one of the most attractive women in the motion picture industry IMO. Absolutely regal and fit for a Duke's near-wife, unlike Miss Piggy helping her father rule the universe. I'm more upset that they made Jessica a bit of a crybaby in the first movie and then didn't give her much to do in the second but wander around talking to herself like a schizo.
Villeneuve Dune is kino and I am tired of contrarian morons pretending it wasnt for (you)s
Do you guys think Feyd was turned on by this woman having more hair above her upper lip than he had on his head?
Top: >original, utilitarian, tawny warm sunset of dune
Bottom: >moronic design that would never work, based on insects instead of birds, cold washed out colors
Can't pinch the lynch
>SEE!!!!!! ITS LIKE A BUG THATS WHAT IT MAKES IT SO COOL!!!!!
This but unironically, technology inspired by nature is cool, simple as
why can't they do a lightweight, organic, elegant bird inspired design
Probably because it would need a lot of flexible surfaces, probably the entire fuselage would have to be canvas over a rigid skeleton, which could look cool but it wouldn't give off that heavy duty/long range image that the dunc thopters have.
There's also the hover function. Some birds can do it but it would probably look weird on such a large machine
>Dunc has terrible casting (chani
That's it. Pugh is *okay*. Walken is fine. The real star of the show is Bardem to little surprise. His Stilgar more than makes up for dogshit Chani, and then some imo. Easily both the most entertaining and the most competent performance in the movie, followed by Butler's Feyd probably. And Timmy isn't too terrible, you can see he tries at least half-heartedly.
>And Timmy isn't too terrible, you can see he tries at least half-heartedly.
you're tripping. there are very, very few actors who could have delivered his "I'm taking over the Fremen" monologue and have it not turn into a joke. I couldn't believe my ears. it's incredible that he has that voice in him when he talks like a limp wristed vocal fry homosexual irl. he's actually a great actor, no hyperbole. I was still skeptical about him after part 1 but I'm sold.
It would have been impossible to believe the Fremen would be led by this twink in the third act if not for that scene, it's not hyperbole to say it was the make or break scene of the movie. Timmy did a great job.
well they could have buried the footage and had his mom's propaganda campaign be the thing that tips the scale instead. convert over 10% to strongly believe in a cause and the rest of a population will flip to support it as well. would have been redpilled in its own way. but I'm glad it worked out this way. it's exactly where the movie goes from good to great.
Yeah he has good voice that he knows how to use well, that I won't argue, and the council scene is probably his best acting on screen to date. But still, let's not overpraise the lad, he still has a long way to go. And a third movie to deliver. He can't seem to shake that slight awkwardness in his step yet. Maybe it's time for different haircut too, mr kangaroo mouse?
>He can't seem to shake that slight awkwardness in his step
that's just how an untrained skinny man walks. he weighs like 55 kg, I bet. there's no way to make that look imposing. he would need several years of training and eating big to just reach 75 kg without too much fat which would be the typical contemporary hero look at his height. if this was ever the goal they would have cast someone else.
They have the subs, it's just all shit and unstyled. And lines like at the opening that have a pause in the hard subbed releases just show the full line straight away in the soft subbed releases. Maybe there will be something passable when the blurays hits.
1984 is way better for what they made in a 2 hour film
Plus giving a bunch of crybaby mutt monsters that were expelled from other planets complete control of the most valuable resource in the universe seems far fetched
I like Alec Newman but he is by far the least accurate Paul when it comes to looks. Even Kyle MacLachlan was better even if he looked a little too old.
Uh, but don't you see, I saw Lynch Dune when I was 11 and it was a bonding experience with my dad, therefore, DUNC is garbage and you're just a woke DEI shill
I just watched Dunc 2 last night. I think it was good, but just like in Dunc the first I felt that Zendaya's characterization of Chani is weirdly offbeat. She's a catty high school girl half the time and a supposedly badass warrior the other half, but is constantly fricking up. I like that they dwelled on the development of her and Paul's relationship and eventual rivalry, but I felt like she had no real reason for her antipathy toward Paul. He basically promises to give her everything she wants, a Dune ruled by the Fremen and the destruction of the Harmon end, and she still rejects and mocks and berates him. All she had to do was follow literally the most powerful and extraordinary man she has ever met and be a little humble and it felt like you could see her seething with rage in every scene because of it.
because Paul is manipulating the Fremen for his own interests and their getting caught up in the wars of Muad'dib leads to genocide on a galactic scale and eventually leads to the extinction of their culture
Yes but Chani doesn't know any of that. Maybe she has an inkling because Paul tells her his visions and dreams. My point is that Zendaya's Chani is a c**t in almost every scene. She's always storming in or storming out or picking a fight. Her performance just felt out of place to me.
the character seems to have been rewritten to be a current year strong feminazi atheist progressive wymyn of color that don't need no white man
can't have a love interest for a white man that doesn't tell him how stupid and worthless and wrong he is.
That's the sense I get as well. The great irony of course is that unlike the book where Chani uses her feminine wiles to become Paul's concubine and retain her primacy, relegating Irulan to second place, in Dunc she just fricks off into the desert and Paul gets to be emperor and rail the princess who is clearly hotter.
I'm wondering if she will pop back up in the third movie fighting against Paul.
She's none of those things. Really she's a Fremen nationalist above all, she loves Paul but she will always think of him as outsider. And she would rather have the Fremen take back their planet and chill but Paul takes the emperorship and then basically says "btw you're my personal army now, come invade a bunch of random planets with me and worship my Great House." As a blood and soil Fremen I'd be pissed too.
Maybe a good analogy would be neocons hijacking patriotic American's sentiments and myths to use them to conduct a ruthless GWOT to topple the enemies of Israel.
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Sure, let's go with that. Although I think the issue is more that Paul is an outsider eventually accepts manipulating outsider myths to push her people into being his new Sardaukar. She doesn't fully leave him until he moves beyond retaking Arrakis and turns the Fremen into a crusading army.
while that's an option, there are two issues
one, it was just as possible to have her see him as a messiah. sure, her happening to be one of the few who don't idolize him isn't impossible, just statistically improbable because most suck his dick by the end. The only reason to pick her as an "unfaithful" is to not have the main fem character be a simp for the main male character, which isn't a good reason in itself. Female simps are much rarer than male simps,we need some.
Two, in some ways, she's too catty/modern in her attitude.
It doesn't take rocket appliances to see that the Voice from the Outer World is a myth planted by external forces to get the Fremen on board with imperial interests
>b-b-but the rest of the Fremen believed in him!!!!
But as we see in Dune Messiah, a lot of them didn't, too.
If Dunc Chani is smart enough to see through the Bene Gesserit propaganda, then she also ought to be smart enough to see that Paul has no choice but to become the Lisan al-Gaib. What alternative was there?
>They fly now? >They fly now!
Seriously though, is this what reddit does to people's brains? That they've come to believe that something that looks outright ridiculous and cheap is actually great because "muh memes"?
The movie was so good, the moment I saw the webrip, i immediately booked imax tickets for the following day. unironically i dont think you guys appreciate how this was an absolutely historic film that will live in years and decades to come. an absolutely immaculate film rendition of the most successful scifi book ever.
lol it's probably the other way around. Cinemaphile is full of edgy redditors that just love to meme about popular shit. but it's shit that you don't actually care about. that's why im saying you guys probably can't appreciate this is pure once in a decade kino extract.
Do you guys think the worm's mouth in this poster should have been made blue? It would make it stand out more and highlight its connection to the spice
>Throwing away >Zendaya and Timmy are arguably half of the reason why the movie made so much money in the first place
This is why you'll never be a director
Nah I don't find her particularly attractive or a good actress and imo she's definitely overhyped but at least I'm not a completely brainless moron and understand that big names attract big numbers of watchers
The one that exists in my head and is perfect and would take a billion dollar budget (I pocket half immediately and spend it on private affairs and interests and use the rest to make a multipart series)
Dunc has some technical elements that are incredible. The thopters and how you feel in the theater when they roar is amazing. But it lacks storytelling intricacy. Little details like the sandworm control in 84 override the quality difference as the shot cuts from Paul anchoring to the worm pulling a scale open, then back to the worm as it spins in response.
Added non Dune details in the book like heart plugs, weirding modules, etc...act as subtext details that add to the story. Culminating in amazing lines like, My name is a killing word. But the module is a physical manifestation of the power of religious zealotry, as heart plugs help the harkonnens horror.
Dunc veers off with Chani, let's her hijack the story, and it's ugly and meaningless in the end. The very opposite of what dune 84 does to enhance the story.
Dunc is un fricking watchable. We all sat there in the fricking theater, brand new, and exited to see it. And multiple points we were like, frick me get on with it.
Now, take that feeling, remove any sensation of wonder and novelty from it being the first time you see it. Then imagine sitting down and watching these movies over a weekend, add a theoretical 3rd movie that finishes it off.
Are you in total and complete hell. You fricking bet you are. Now do it again 3 times. Man made horrors beyond human comprehension.
Or you can go watch 84 for the 20th time, and enjoy the frick out of it like always.
Dune 84 wins by miles and hindsight will reveal this too all deniers.
I think the most disappointing aspect of the DUNC adaptation is the erasure of the material aspects of the story
The spice doesn't have as much meaning or purpose and the guild is an afterthought
CHOAM and the Landsraad are utterly absent and not factors within the story
Each iteration (barring the scifi channel show) completely erases the feudal and oligarchic conditions put forth in the novel
And it reduces the idea of religious hope and the material basis of the fremen's trust/fanatacism in Paul to MERE religious dogmatism
It's a literal marvelization of the story and setting and aside from individual scenes it fricking sucks
The only thing I can really say is positive is that it's almost objectively better than most other large budget american productions right now
I want to blind Greg Frasier and dump him in a forest though, that man is possibly the worst cinematographer in scifi today and Villenueve should've stuck with Deakins
Zendaya ruins the new ones. They are impressive in effects, atmosphere, and most of the other actors are good. But she is just awful and her part sours the whole experience.
Nothing in the 80s one left me with that disappointed and exasperating feeling. And I liked the aesthetic more of the 80s one. Also, the absence of the Navigator was a let down.
Just watch the 1984 scene when they first go into the desert in an ornithopter and tell me DUNC is better I dare you. Brian Eno’s theme is a masterpiece and the debate between the 1984 Dune and DUNC is the most perfect example of Soul vs Soulless
This movie is unironically fricking awful and anyone stating otherwise is a pathetic homosexual.
You don't have to like dunc, but pretending like the 80s movie is anything but unmitigated garbage is preposterous. They fly through the second half of the book in a single goddamn scene and turn the voice into a projectile. Its fricking stupid and ugly as shit. The internal monologues are fricking hilariously awkward and bad.
Look at this shit. Look at this horrid garbage of a visual effect cluttering the scene and choreography.
This movie is barely watchable.
Anyone that unironically prefers this movie has got to be pushing 50 and has nostalgia from childhood or some other moronation. The rest of you are contrarian Black personhomosexuals just shitting on current year Hollywood schlock.
I wish I beat you to death with a spade just for have to sift through your stupid opinions.
It's absolutely bizarre to me that people will get autistic about DUNC changing Alia or cutting the timeskip for not being book accurate, but then dickride the Lynch movies despite Lynch having no interest in being faithful to the book at all
>Lynch having no interest in being faithful to the book at all
This is complete bullshit.
Every single change from the book (and all of those were minor) was greenlit by Frank Herbert himself.
You're confusing him with his son, Brian Herbert. Who, by the way, was involved in the production and writing process for DUNC (1&2) and called them the "best adapatation". That should make you think.
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Anonymous
well it's convenient that Frank is dead and can't offer an opinion on DUNC so you can just live in whatever delusions you want that the version with voice guns, milking cats, and completely speedruns the 2nd half of the book is the more "faithful" adaptation somehow, and I'm sure your reasoning has something to do with Chani being played by a white actress
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it's convenient that Frank is dead and can't offer an opinion on DUNC
He already gave his opinion on Lynch's Dune. That's more than sufficient to tell what he'd have thought of the antithesis of it.
Again, you're agreeing with Brian Herbert here. >voice guns
Explicitely greenlit by Herbert, because desert Kung Fu would have looked ridiculous. Which Villeneuve has now proved. >milking cats
I fail to see the problem here. >completely speedruns the 2nd half of the book
Yes, we all know that it was ruined in the edit. Which is what Lynch has a massive problem with as well.
Yet, it was still able to give a better and more accurate presentation of that part of the story than DUNC2 did, hillariously.
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Anonymous
>because desert Kung Fu would have looked ridiculous. Which Villeneuve has now proved.
Literally anyone who thinks the voice guns are superior to the desert kung fu of DUNC is not arguing in good faith, sorry that the movie you watched as a toddler while your dad beat your was surpassed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Literally anyone who thinks the voice guns are superior to the desert kung fu of DUNC is not arguing in good faith
Yeah, I guess Frank Herbert really was arguing in bad faith. What does he know about Dune anyway?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that scene looks silly but you're going to argue that the Fremen doing CQC during the Harvester attack wasn't cool? You're going to argue that the anemic Paul vs. Feyd of 84 is better than that one in DUNC2?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>wasn't cool
No, redditor, it wasn't "cool". >anemic Paul
Wut? >better than that one in DUNC2?
Yes, because Lynch actually knew how to shoot a scene from more than one angle.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>le r*dditor xD
You have no opinions of your own, you just believe in the opposite of whatever perceived boogeyman exists in your head
Please have sex
i le reddit spaced this post just for you big guy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You have no opinions of your own
Funny, coming from a redditor, in the process of shilling "muh newest big blockbuster thing" (or what you take for it).
Lynch. End of. No discussion. If you dare to even think otherwise, please commit suicide. I mean it. Commit suicide for you are not worthy of the gift of life since you are not human able to feel the soul of the art that you witness.
The idea of personal shield made of prisms was interesting, but the technology to portray it wasn't there yet. It works for the fortress walls later on, tho
>instead of Paul saluting the Fremen before the final attack
You mean
Actually this is the more appropriate equivalent shot since this the actual preamble to the attack on the Imperial tent. Your scene is from when Muad'Dib claims leadership of the Fremen, which I don't think ever actually happens in LynchDune
?
A shot that is 80% low-quality CGI and doesn't even try to add depth to the background?
You really think this compares favourably?
>is that the latest bone chilling, old = good, SOVL casting a 30 year old as a teenager, rain dabbing on the shai halud kino disavowed by its own director kino?
Funny how you need to alter a scene from Lynch's Dune to ridicule it, whereas every single webm from DUNC is posted unaltered in here and way more ridiculous.
>t. actually thinks that the Harkonnens are very dry and very serious and very down to earth characters
No wonder you loved the completely unemotive and sterile depiction in DUNC.
Filename my man I haven't been on any social media everything on my hard drives is from Cinemaphile or e621/paheel/rule34. Occassional things from LL and Nexus. But you seem to know the sources of things so keep going back so you can post topic-related memes in Cinemaphile threads so I can repost them, because Cinemaphile is an image board so it's always best to post images with your shit opinions.
Cinemaphile is a Lynch board
Lynch himself hates Dune 84.
Thematically very appropriate since Dune is a series all about setting in motion things much much greater and more terrible than you could have ever realized
This annoys the hell out of me. I know Lynch hates director's cuts and working on 84 Dune was such a miserable experience he swore off blockbusters but if he went back and did a proper recut of the film we would have a Dune renaissance alongside the new films.
I've seen this, and it's good, but it's not the same as what Lynch would have access to if he decided to recut it.
That would destroy denis and expose him so much he would have to Lord Jim at least, maybe even Sudoku
I like Dunc too homosexual so you're not going to see me agree with your us vs them sportsball tier shit.
moronic centrist
Lynch is wrong
"Believe it or not, Dune is actually my most hated film."
It's the sound track.
Lynch hates that he didn't have final cut. That's literally all there is to it.
You Villeneuve drones need to stop spamming half-truths and out-of-context quotes.
All real artists hate their own work.
And that's why I like it even more.
yeah but the people praising these new dune movies are tourists from twitter so they don't know that
This.
Frick you.
DUNE 1984 > DUNC
Keyed
This is a Denis board.
I pick the good one.
So none
>Muh Most flattering shot vs most unflattering shot so I win
Literally babby tier argumentation on the level of "you're onions, I'm Chad"
Dune most unflattering shot > Dunc most flattering shot
DUNC, easy
Lynch Dune had really bad pacing and basically skipped over the part where Paul actually integrates himself with the Fremen and becomes Lisan al-Gaib.
There's a reason that ᑐᑌᑎᑕ had to be split into two parts.
>basically skipped over the part where Paul actually integrates himself with the Fremen and becomes Lisan al-Gaib
Would it blow you away if I said he spent more time on it? I don't mean languid slow shots going nowhere spanning two tedious, drab episodes. I mean actual details.
Ah yes, I remember when Paul and Chani's relationship was developed in narration where we are told "Paul and Chani's love grew" superimposed over a fade in of Kyle Machlachlan and Sean Young awkwardly making out
are Lynchgays on the spectrum?
There are more details in a shorter span of time described in the 84 version. I get you disgusting leftist trash want this to go away, but here we are. Dunc is a shit movie. Above all it was directed by a fricking coward who cut out Alia knifing the Baron.
That's what you are defending. You will also never be women. The Bene Gesserit would consider you subhuman abominations. Just so we are clear.
On the chad spectrum.
This is delusion I've never seen before. Hate Dunc all you want but Dunc 2 actually has the first half be dedicated to Paul fighting with the Fremen while Lynch's Dune has narration over a few minutes of Paul teaching the Fremen how to use the Weirding modules and kissing Chani.
Wrong. You never even see how he's making his name known in the empire, it's all about Chani. Also, there's no chemistry between Chalamet and Zendaya. Null.
>You never even see how he's making his name known in the empire
The Harkonnen are afraid of him to the point Rabban books it when he sees him and the Emperor and Irulan have an entire discussion about what to do with him because of how dangerous he is. You can't make up complete bullshit when it's only been a month and everyone still remembers the movie.
>You never even see how
Read again, you dummy.
I saw an entire discussion about how dangerous he is after he blew up so many spice harvesters they were all going dark over the map of Arrakis and he had even pushed up to Arrakeen. Genuinely, what schizophrenic point are you trying to make?
Except the one we see gets blown up by Chaniqa, you eunuch dimwit.
Paul doesn't personally blow up any of them you fricking moron but he's leading the entire operation. Was that not made obvious by him overlooking the lasering of one of the harvesters and Chani saying that the Fedaykin count his victories? Was him leading the charge against Rabban's attack just sitting around doing nothing? I don't know if you have a sub 80 IQ or if you're this desperate to shitpost.
We don't see him command troops either (before meeting Gurney again). Keep defending the cuckoldry, cumgobbler.
Right wing incels are the future. Your freak show of a political ideology literally only attracts the weak and sterile.
>We don't see him command troops either
He's the one who's commanding the attack against Rabban. Once again, the movie is 1 month old. We all remember it.
>Right wing incels are the future. Your freak show of a political ideology literally only attracts the weak and sterile.
>I am strong and virile, says the virgin angrily misrepresenting a film because he's upset that the lead actress is a mutt and the film is more popularly regarded than the shitty movie he watched as a toddler
> popularly regarded
pleb
I'm convinced that literally every person who's angry about DUNC is some kind of right wing incel and/or a nostalgia baiting moron
Yes. And this makes you irrational and angry. It was a good win.
I'm convinced everyone slopping DUNC up has to be artistically moronic and can't recognize terrible writing.
>You never even see how he's making his name known in the empire, it's all about Chani.
You are either an excellent b8er or completely, clinically insane/moronic. There were multiple scenes purely dedicated to the imperial reaction of Paul making his name known. Characters talk about it fricking constantly. Chani just has a different role now as an audience surrogate criticizing Paul more than a love interest, which you can say whatever you want about but she was very very clearly not the focus of the story. You are a fool, and I could probably kill you in hand-to-hand combat IRL.
The reaction to nothing we see, you absolute libtard. Why even teach you people how to read and write if you remain functionally illiterate anyway. Dumb.
>libtard
can you stop bringing your own political and sexual insecurities into this argument for even one second?
>insecurities
I'm good (having a fully coherent worldview), unlike your identity issues driven ilk.
We SEE him lure Rabban into a trap after blowing up the spice reserves, pick off a bunch of his soldiers one by one and then lead the charge against him while the Fremen are shoting Muad'Dib. Please do the gene pool a favor and off yourself.
Fine. One short scene where you can barely see him but at least he isn't upstaged by Chani. Granted. My overall point still stands. Villeneuve confirmed it.
>Oh, I was wrong, let me keep shitposting
Concession fricking accepted
Keep choking on those schlongs.
I'm not doing anything of the sort, I haven't brought up politics once in this discussion unlike you and some of the morons arguing on my side. I said your claim that Lynch's Dune showed more of his ingratiation with the Fremen was wrong, that's fricking it.
>pic
must be a diversion tactic because if you actually consider something your secret weapon you don't announce it in advance.
>Let's adapt this blue book
>But let's make it all red
I will never understand.
>But it doesn't work on film!!!!!
Money hungry homosexuals
I mog the both of you easily. Keep seething, impotent libtards.
post body
No. In that teeny-tiny, deeply buried part of your demented mind, the part that has remained sane, you know I'm speaking true and it makes your blood boil. Seethe until your head explodes for all I care.
yes I am truly envious of the schizo arguing authoritatively about a movie he clearly hasn't seen then going on grandiose monologues about his inherent superiority like an anime villain when caught. Clearly this is a sane and well-adjusted individual who has meaningful employment and has sex
>and has sex
You banging a below mid chick like every other month isn't the achievement you pretend it is. I have to turn women down.
I find it curious that you didn't deny the accusation that you haven't seen the movie. What are you even trying to prove at this point?
What a dumb thing to say.
The scene where the Emperor and Irulan discuss how to deal with Muad'dib is immediately preceded by a scene where Paul bombs Arakeen's main spice depot, lures Rabban into a trap, and then he and his men completely wipe the Harkonnen force.
Did you even actually watch the movie or are you entirely operating on secondhand info from other angry virgins in your right wing incel circlejerk echochamber?
Alright you win, you got my (you). You're prob pasty as frick and out of shape though homosexual
And when then, Dunc part 2 suffers from pacing problems and too many cut out scenes as shown by the faxr that theres a scene. Dune should have been a 3 part movie.
Dunc 1 > Dunc 2. There are no other Dune films.
Dunc 2 at least wasn't fricking boring like Dunc 1
Lynch Dunk is only cool in retrospective because of how theatrical it was making it have potential to become a cult hit but it's overal an absurd fever dreamesque experience.
> but it's overal an absurd fever dreamesque experience.
So a Lynch movie
>"OP no longer needs the shitposting module"
At least compare the equivalent scenes and then say Dunc is shit.
fortunately there are no mulatos in the 1984 version so they can't be compared very well
Soulful background character design
>99.99% of people there can't see what's happening, just have to wait and cheer or yell based on what the people in front of them do
Stupid way to set up for a meeting. Fremen are aware of the technology that is "raised platforms"
Actually this is the more appropriate equivalent shot since this the actual preamble to the attack on the Imperial tent. Your scene is from when Muad'Dib claims leadership of the Fremen, which I don't think ever actually happens in LynchDune
>that disgusting cgi
I hate modern hollywood.
It looks like shit.
Thanks for clearing that up.
....
David Lynch Dune is untouchable.
It's perfect on every level, unquestionably.
Nudunc is a weak Women's Studies seminar.
>David Lynch Dune is untouchable.
Yeah, as in "I wouldn't touch that shit with a stick"
Whoa WHOA WHOA
Easy with the antisemitism chud
he's not gonna frick you anon you can stop sucking lynch's dick
the majority of people there are in total darkness
some people are blinded by Dune's harsh sunlight
I love this place, it's perfect.
>no support columns
>ceiling collapses, killing your entire army
Let's be real, only like 60 people heard Paul's weak effeminate voice and the other 200k cave dwellers were like 'SHHH I CAN'T HEAR SHIT WHAT HE SAYS???'
>Paul's weak effeminate voice
Let's hear anon's powerful booming voice then
This movie was so kino.
man imagine the line for the bathroom in that place and imagine the smell of a bunch of people that don't shower and shit in their pants all sitting in the same room
>fremen
>bathrooms
what happens to their poop, they walk around with smelly shit in their pants? even if they had some magical dehydration device to get all the water out, what happens to the dried poop husk? do they just take them out of their ass and throw them in the sand? or do they turn it into turd jerky to completely conserve all resources?
do they have a colostomy bag sort of apparatus, or do they just shit out of their buttholes and somehow the shit magically gets recycled? no shit smooshing around their buttcheeks? what happens to the poop smears as the shit comes out of their ass in the suit? does the fabric not absorb any odors? wouldn't their skin meaning they all constantly smell like feces outside of the suit?
unironicially do the books answer any of these questions?
Yep. Dune is still superior
yes choose
Harkonnens were easily the weakest part of Dunc (relative to LynchDune) tbqh
If you want to make a good case for Dunc post the ornithopters
Maybe when it comes to Vlad but Butler's Feyd was honestly pretty great.
>Butler's Feyd
>le highly intelligent sociopath skinhead
Total midwit drivel.
Try that again without the buzzwords.
Buzzword is a buzzword, midwit.
In the book, Feyd represents that there is no heroism in the israeli capitalist death cult, they can only offer a glib facsimile. Feyd is a coward, he's not particularly skilled, just underhanded and good at manipulating people. he's in no actual danger when he fights the slave in the book, and when the slave starts winning, Feyd gets pissed off this lowly Atreides slave is kicking his ass and then he cheats, because all Harkonnens are cowards.
Austin Butler's Feyd actually IS that guy, who is Muad'dib's equal and opposite and willing to fight to the death. He's an incredibly entertaining character, but I understand why book purists might find him a bit disappointing or less complex.
>He's an incredibly entertaining character, I understand why book purists might find him a bit disappointing or less complex.
I agree with you, and ultimately, I can't really fault Denis for wanting to try something different, as the second half of the book isn't really as interesting as the first.
I'd say Dunc Harkonnens are a blend of the book Harkonnens, Space Navigators (monstrous aesthetic), and Count Fenring (unpredictable "almost" Kwisatz Haderach). It wasn't necessarily a good idea to do the Harkonnens this way, but I did find it very interesting to watch.
It's part of why altogether, I think DUNC 2 is a much better movie than DUNC 1. Part 1 has no appeal if you haven't read the book (and it's not even that good if you have), but with DUNC 2, Denis grew some balls and struck out on his own. Does it cut a lot? Yes, but I think in the end, Dune's a thing where the setting is more interesting than the actual plot, and Denis gives a fairly compelling take on the setting.
am I the only one who never read the books and really likes DUNC 1? to me Dunc 1 is a good movie and Dunc 2 a great one. my biggest fears after part 1 were that part 2 would either
>try to deliver on the tension built by part 1 and fail because it's just incoherent action bombast where the plot goes nowhere
or
>try to just keep going with the slow world building and never deliver on what part 1 promises
Dunc 2 delivered on absolutely every expectation I had. my main complaint about Dunc 2 is the repeated "Harkonnen's mistreat their underlings to remind you they're really evil" scenes. I would cut basically all of those. and then I would cut about half of Chani's scenes, or cut the scenes themselves in half, whichever way works best for the pacing. that's it though, no other flaws. I'm even okay with Florence Pugh being cast as the princess because imagine if they cast a 9/10 hot girl in that role. it would be impossible to believe that Paul is going to stay attracted to Zendaya (bit of a stretch to begin with) once he's married to a model.
I don't think DUNC 1 is a bad film, but I'm curious what you liked about it if you didn't read the book. The only emotional draw in the film is that it constantly alludes to the inevitable jihad, but this is not conveyed with any clarity at all; I think Paul's visions only make sense if you already know what they mean. Hinging the audience's only emotional connection on something so vague and unintuitive seems like a very poor choice.
>imagine if they cast a 9/10 hot girl in that role. it would be impossible to believe that Paul is going to stay attracted to Zendaya (bit of a stretch to begin with) once he's married to a model.
Good point. I did wish they went with Debicki or even Taylor-Joy for Irulan, but you're right. There's also a narrative benefit in Irulan not being inherently desirable as a person, just as a political tool, so although the book describes her as beautiful and all, Pugh's look is overall an acceptable adaptational change.
I think Zendaya has the sort of face that benefits greatly from makeup, but it would be inappropriate to give Chani makeup, so it didn't really work.
Yeah. If Denis isn't doing the sequels, he's probably not doing Leto, so he'll probably not have Chani come back to Paul, and in fact he'll probably have her kill him. It's notable he made the Fremen a lot more sympathetic to contemporary audiences in 2, which raises the question of how he'll handle the mass genocides in 3, but the payoff is probably going to be in Chani just killing Paul. "Secret weapon" indeed.
Chani will blind Paul with a knife while Paul kills her
No way Denis will miss out on having Paul walk into the desert at the end
I wonder if Edric will be less of a bullied little b***h. Or maybe that comedy element will be played up and he'll straight up be accompanied by Looney Tunes sound effects and the other plotters pulling pranks on him all the time. I'm excited to see Scytale and his cool moves.
Agreed, Paul walking into the desert was probably a solid 20% of Villeneuve's motivation to film these in the first place.
>Dunc 2 delivered on absolutely every expectation I had.
Having low expectation doesn't make a film good.
I recall the Paul vs Feyd flight being so underwhelming in the book (although that was sort of the point). I get why they couldn't take that route in the film, but they do need to take measures to establish just how overpowered Paul is in the Messiah adaptation.
I don't have high hopes for that based on how much they set up the Chani drama.
>Dune's a thing where the setting is more interesting than the actual plot, and Denis gives a fairly compelling take on the setting.
lol, nibba doesn't even show the spacing guild
He was DAMAGED cringe
He was not. He was embarrassingly bad. He spoke and looked like Jared Leto's Joker. Sting is the one and only Feyd-Rautha.
The Dune miniseries is the best and most faithful adaptation ever.
Don't even @me, plebs.
It's not perfect but it's got the perfect baron. Both of the movies try to make him into some kind of supernaturally evil character, but in the books and miniseries he's just a flamboyant old poofter who gets in over his head. The costumes were kino as well, but the pacing is almost as bad as the Lynch movie.
>Both of the movies try to make him into some kind of supernaturally evil character,
what is wrong with this, exactly?
When you don't do it in a fun and memorable way like Lynch.
THE RIDICULE OF THE SHILLING OF THE NEW DUNC AND ITS ABSURDITY WILL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM
THANK you
>mfw "I am beyond your power"
>mfw "My name is a killing word"
So the emperor was really worried about those killer megaphones?
My Paul
Top. Nostalgia and it's closer to the the plot of the book.
Ah yes my favorite part of the books were the voice guns, Paul literally making it rain on Arrakis and Thufir being forced to mlik a cat
I said it's closer. I didn't say it was a word for word translation of the book.
tbh the OP should've put the sci-fi channel miniseries in there. I would've chosen that one instead.
I like Dune 1984
I like Dune 2021 + 2024
However, if you said I could only watch one again it'd probably be 1984 version. The set pieces, the bombastic music, non-Zendaya Chani, the tone in general, I love it.
>I like Dune 2021 + 2024
Go back.
>Frumpy mulatto with the body of a 12 year old boy
I don't see why normies are gooning over her
Normie "men" have developed women brains via social media brainwashing and lack of coherent worldview. Oversocialized like crazy. They just repeat what the institutions put out.
Chani in dunc is a better character.
this mutt b***h is beyond fricking ugly and can't act, so fricking tired of seeing here everywhere, find a prettier brown girl for fricks sake, give us some fricking variety if you refuse to cast white people
i want to like dunc but every time i see paul and chani i immediately turn it off
Chani was better in the first one. Second one she was insufferable and her hair was shittier.
Chani from the lynch version is legitimately gorgeous.
watch The Hot Spot (1990)
>good, weird movie in its own right
>prime madsen
>prime connelly
>Chani from the lynch version is legitimately gorgeous.
>Young Sean Young
No shit moron
oh shit, I thought you were talking about the princess (who was way hotter than Chani).
why did Villainueuvevueuvehueve make them so brown and Muslim and boring? Atleast Lynch made them more mysterious and unique in his adaptation
Because they are brown and Muslim for the most part. Did Lisan al-Gaib and Mahdi not tip you off?
Are the Harkonnen automatically Roman because they hold marches and have a Colosseum? just because something borrows cultural ideas does not make it the culture itself. Nice room temp deductions.
Do the Harkonnens have Roman names and have a leader called a consul while talking about imperium sine fine? For frick's sake in the book their holy war is literally called a Jihad. Stop being obtuse.
moron, they're literally brown desert people that initiate a Jihad.
the arab oil country parallels were obvious all along in the books. of course they're arab and therefore muslim inspired. they're a desert people sitting on an incredibly important natural resource needed for TRAVEL ffs. making them anything other than arab muslim types would be hacky, like you're pretending to be original, trying to distract from your obvious inspirations.
They are all of the slaves of humanity who survived. Everything below the equator is what fremen are. Chani is mixed. She's not white. We know how she looks because of some descriptions of her, the fremen and her parent Zendaya is pretty much right on but she's a little too tall.
To make her white is utterly insane. But it's lynch his shit was way off source material. The sci version got closer to chani. Red hair, slender, oval face high cheek bones brown but not arab or black or white. She's supposed to be pretty but goes feral in battle.
Zendaya was right on. Paul same. Baron should have been john Goodman and had hair. Feyd minus the hair by was perfect. Walken was a little old but he did well. Duncan was right.
Irulan was bad. That made no sense. Maybe she got fat on accident. They kind of toned Jessica's beauty down.jessica is supposed to be drop dead gorgeous.
>Maybe she got fat on accident.
>red hair
>not white
Lebanese and north african berbers can all have natural red hair bruh
>Muh Lesbians, muh hairdressers.
Sit down, chud.
this post is so based it turned me into a 1960s basketball coach who just wants to get through his day without any hassles from whitey
>Ancient genomes from North Africa evidence prehistoric migrations to the Maghreb from both the Levant and Europe
Genetic data from present-day populations suggests that North African ancestry has contributions from four main sources: (i) an autochthonous Maghrebi component related to a back migration to Africa ∼12,000 y ago from Eurasia; (ii) a Middle Eastern component probably associated with the Arab conquest; (iii) a sub-Saharan component derived from trans-Saharan migrations; and (iv) a European component that has been linked to recent historic movements.
The Tuareg Berbers are of the same stock as the (eurasian) North African Berbers. The difference is they migrated southwards and had much more interactions (trade, marriage, slave trade) with black Africans who were living in the Sahara and the Sahel for thousands of years, which would correlate with a higher amount of West African components in their DNA
literally european dna in them
the lebanese? remember the crusades? lol
>remember the crusades
Because the only time white people have been in Asia minor and north Africa was during the crusades you stupid frick
>the only time white people have been in Asia minor and north Africa
in large numbers, fricking everything that moved?
yeah. a little more during WW2 probably.
Yeah, sure, there's some European DNA in there and many north africans and middle easterners in the levant could well be meds but this sure as hell isn't northern European anon. Either way a qt actress like this would be a good Chani too.
She wasn't white. Chani was never and has never been white. It's openly stated. She's half wild fremen. Her "tribe" is basically berber and her dad was more or less a blonde "Hispanic". He's mixed.
It is very clear what her skin color was
>It is very clear what her skin color was
Northern Italian at the absolute darkest
I was in love with a Moroccan woman once, trust me that some of them can be very very light. And I've never even met one with a blond father before.
>Chani was never and has never been white. It's openly stated
Quote it now motherfricker or your mother will get blacked by a pack of wild Blacks tonight
>toned Jessica's beauty down
In Dunc?! Rebecca Ferguson is one of the most attractive women in the motion picture industry IMO. Absolutely regal and fit for a Duke's near-wife, unlike Miss Piggy helping her father rule the universe. I'm more upset that they made Jessica a bit of a crybaby in the first movie and then didn't give her much to do in the second but wander around talking to herself like a schizo.
Do you guys think Feyd was turned on by this woman having more hair above her upper lip than he had on his head?
DUDE LE SOVL xDDD
Top:
>original, utilitarian, tawny warm sunset of dune
Bottom:
>moronic design that would never work, based on insects instead of birds, cold washed out colors
Can't pinch the lynch
Acceptable bait, you earned my (you)
Dragonfly thopters are kino, frick you
Top makes sense
Bottom is moronic
why can't they do a lightweight, organic, elegant bird inspired design
both are trash, the first one is goofy, the second one is reddit tier
>SEE!!!!!! ITS LIKE A BUG THATS WHAT IT MAKES IT SO COOL!!!!!
pic related
>SEE!!!!!! ITS LIKE A BUG THATS WHAT IT MAKES IT SO COOL!!!!!
This but unironically, technology inspired by nature is cool, simple as
Probably because it would need a lot of flexible surfaces, probably the entire fuselage would have to be canvas over a rigid skeleton, which could look cool but it wouldn't give off that heavy duty/long range image that the dunc thopters have.
There's also the hover function. Some birds can do it but it would probably look weird on such a large machine
Dunc has terrible casting (chani, irulan, emperor) and suffers from extremely boring set design
>boring set design
Yeah because the dune novel has so many rich descriptions of ornate set pieces
Tell me. What is the name of the book?
>Dunc has terrible casting (chani
That's it. Pugh is *okay*. Walken is fine. The real star of the show is Bardem to little surprise. His Stilgar more than makes up for dogshit Chani, and then some imo. Easily both the most entertaining and the most competent performance in the movie, followed by Butler's Feyd probably. And Timmy isn't too terrible, you can see he tries at least half-heartedly.
>And Timmy isn't too terrible, you can see he tries at least half-heartedly.
you're tripping. there are very, very few actors who could have delivered his "I'm taking over the Fremen" monologue and have it not turn into a joke. I couldn't believe my ears. it's incredible that he has that voice in him when he talks like a limp wristed vocal fry homosexual irl. he's actually a great actor, no hyperbole. I was still skeptical about him after part 1 but I'm sold.
Agreed. One of maybe 2 or 3 good scenes in the flick.
A israelite controlling a bunch of Black folk?
checks out
It would have been impossible to believe the Fremen would be led by this twink in the third act if not for that scene, it's not hyperbole to say it was the make or break scene of the movie. Timmy did a great job.
well they could have buried the footage and had his mom's propaganda campaign be the thing that tips the scale instead. convert over 10% to strongly believe in a cause and the rest of a population will flip to support it as well. would have been redpilled in its own way. but I'm glad it worked out this way. it's exactly where the movie goes from good to great.
Yeah he has good voice that he knows how to use well, that I won't argue, and the council scene is probably his best acting on screen to date. But still, let's not overpraise the lad, he still has a long way to go. And a third movie to deliver. He can't seem to shake that slight awkwardness in his step yet. Maybe it's time for different haircut too, mr kangaroo mouse?
>He can't seem to shake that slight awkwardness in his step
that's just how an untrained skinny man walks. he weighs like 55 kg, I bet. there's no way to make that look imposing. he would need several years of training and eating big to just reach 75 kg without too much fat which would be the typical contemporary hero look at his height. if this was ever the goal they would have cast someone else.
Lol, I will never take that effeminate twink seriously
Chani -> Dafne Keen
Irulan -> Ayyna
Emperor -> jared harris
Not even Lynch like his own movie
wrong for the 35154684th time
>tfw all 4k rips have shitty ass soft subs
subscene. learn to use it. took me all of 5 sec to find a sub for it that had everything but HI
They have the subs, it's just all shit and unstyled. And lines like at the opening that have a pause in the hard subbed releases just show the full line straight away in the soft subbed releases. Maybe there will be something passable when the blurays hits.
1984 is way better for what they made in a 2 hour film
Plus giving a bunch of crybaby mutt monsters that were expelled from other planets complete control of the most valuable resource in the universe seems far fetched
This guy actually sold the character being an insane genius warlord prophet. Timmy just ain't it.
I like Alec Newman but he is by far the least accurate Paul when it comes to looks. Even Kyle MacLachlan was better even if he looked a little too old.
every dune thread I think I find the worst opinion but wow this takes the cake for best contrarian
Lynch's and it's not even close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGamew5-CW8
Villeneuve Dune is kino and I am tired of contrarian morons pretending it wasnt for (you)s
Uh, but don't you see, I saw Lynch Dune when I was 11 and it was a bonding experience with my dad, therefore, DUNC is garbage and you're just a woke DEI shill
Villememe just can't make movies and the cast sucks.
I love Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, and Twin Peaks but Lynch's Dune is unwatchable
This shit got me diamonds in the visions in Part 1 and I knew it was going to deliver here.
idk I think she's cute
I just watched Dunc 2 last night. I think it was good, but just like in Dunc the first I felt that Zendaya's characterization of Chani is weirdly offbeat. She's a catty high school girl half the time and a supposedly badass warrior the other half, but is constantly fricking up. I like that they dwelled on the development of her and Paul's relationship and eventual rivalry, but I felt like she had no real reason for her antipathy toward Paul. He basically promises to give her everything she wants, a Dune ruled by the Fremen and the destruction of the Harmon end, and she still rejects and mocks and berates him. All she had to do was follow literally the most powerful and extraordinary man she has ever met and be a little humble and it felt like you could see her seething with rage in every scene because of it.
Harkonnen*
I'm also trans, by the way.
because Paul is manipulating the Fremen for his own interests and their getting caught up in the wars of Muad'dib leads to genocide on a galactic scale and eventually leads to the extinction of their culture
Yes but Chani doesn't know any of that. Maybe she has an inkling because Paul tells her his visions and dreams. My point is that Zendaya's Chani is a c**t in almost every scene. She's always storming in or storming out or picking a fight. Her performance just felt out of place to me.
the character seems to have been rewritten to be a current year strong feminazi atheist progressive wymyn of color that don't need no white man
can't have a love interest for a white man that doesn't tell him how stupid and worthless and wrong he is.
That's the sense I get as well. The great irony of course is that unlike the book where Chani uses her feminine wiles to become Paul's concubine and retain her primacy, relegating Irulan to second place, in Dunc she just fricks off into the desert and Paul gets to be emperor and rail the princess who is clearly hotter.
I'm wondering if she will pop back up in the third movie fighting against Paul.
She's none of those things. Really she's a Fremen nationalist above all, she loves Paul but she will always think of him as outsider. And she would rather have the Fremen take back their planet and chill but Paul takes the emperorship and then basically says "btw you're my personal army now, come invade a bunch of random planets with me and worship my Great House." As a blood and soil Fremen I'd be pissed too.
Maybe a good analogy would be neocons hijacking patriotic American's sentiments and myths to use them to conduct a ruthless GWOT to topple the enemies of Israel.
Sure, let's go with that. Although I think the issue is more that Paul is an outsider eventually accepts manipulating outsider myths to push her people into being his new Sardaukar. She doesn't fully leave him until he moves beyond retaking Arrakis and turns the Fremen into a crusading army.
It's called "religious fervor" and the Fremen who conducted the jihad did so because they believed their cause was righteous and just.
while that's an option, there are two issues
one, it was just as possible to have her see him as a messiah. sure, her happening to be one of the few who don't idolize him isn't impossible, just statistically improbable because most suck his dick by the end. The only reason to pick her as an "unfaithful" is to not have the main fem character be a simp for the main male character, which isn't a good reason in itself. Female simps are much rarer than male simps,we need some.
Two, in some ways, she's too catty/modern in her attitude.
It doesn't take rocket appliances to see that the Voice from the Outer World is a myth planted by external forces to get the Fremen on board with imperial interests
>b-b-but the rest of the Fremen believed in him!!!!
But as we see in Dune Messiah, a lot of them didn't, too.
If Dunc Chani is smart enough to see through the Bene Gesserit propaganda, then she also ought to be smart enough to see that Paul has no choice but to become the Lisan al-Gaib. What alternative was there?
SyFy Channel Miniseries > Lynch >>> video of Nikkokado Avocado taking a shit on a Dune novel >>>>>>>>>> Dunc
Second one
I hate le funny goofy movie
I have decided
Trash.
Too bad they're jobbers
You never once see a Harkonnen kill a fremen in hand to hand.
Kino
a woman sitting next to me in theater said, "aw cute" in reaction to this shot
>simple wire trick
>somehow ends up being KINO
what's the secret?
>They fly now?
>They fly now!
Seriously though, is this what reddit does to people's brains? That they've come to believe that something that looks outright ridiculous and cheap is actually great because "muh memes"?
No thanks. I want a Malazan series on HBO instead.
There's only 1 dune movie
The one that's actually good, so bottom
The movie was so good, the moment I saw the webrip, i immediately booked imax tickets for the following day. unironically i dont think you guys appreciate how this was an absolutely historic film that will live in years and decades to come. an absolutely immaculate film rendition of the most successful scifi book ever.
>t.
lol it's probably the other way around. Cinemaphile is full of edgy redditors that just love to meme about popular shit. but it's shit that you don't actually care about. that's why im saying you guys probably can't appreciate this is pure once in a decade kino extract.
You are fricking moronic and in a decade you will be embarrassed for yourself
Delusional.
>t.
Do you guys think the worm's mouth in this poster should have been made blue? It would make it stand out more and highlight its connection to the spice
The connection of the worms and the spice is a secret that very few people know
DUNC is conventionally better movie, Lynch Dune is more interesting movie
Villenueve is so dishonest
and im not just talking about this films
he calls himself Denis (the knee), when his name is just Dennis, homie is canadian
Dune Part 2 was the best movie I've seen in theaters since Avatar 2
If you don't agree guess what I don't care, you're gay lol
*guitar solo*
original with picard
then the 2001 version that was tv mini series, havent seen since it aired but i liked it'
no other dune movies exist thankfully
imagine throwing away 355 million dollars
>Throwing away
>Zendaya and Timmy are arguably half of the reason why the movie made so much money in the first place
This is why you'll never be a director
>$.02 Zendaya buxx have been deposited into your account
Nah I don't find her particularly attractive or a good actress and imo she's definitely overhyped but at least I'm not a completely brainless moron and understand that big names attract big numbers of watchers
non-whites are too poor to go to the cinema
it's all money laundering
I don't think either is a particularly good adaptation.
The one that exists in my head and is perfect and would take a billion dollar budget (I pocket half immediately and spend it on private affairs and interests and use the rest to make a multipart series)
Dune 1984 > Dunc any day every day.
Dunc has some technical elements that are incredible. The thopters and how you feel in the theater when they roar is amazing. But it lacks storytelling intricacy. Little details like the sandworm control in 84 override the quality difference as the shot cuts from Paul anchoring to the worm pulling a scale open, then back to the worm as it spins in response.
Added non Dune details in the book like heart plugs, weirding modules, etc...act as subtext details that add to the story. Culminating in amazing lines like, My name is a killing word. But the module is a physical manifestation of the power of religious zealotry, as heart plugs help the harkonnens horror.
Dunc veers off with Chani, let's her hijack the story, and it's ugly and meaningless in the end. The very opposite of what dune 84 does to enhance the story.
Choose SCI FI channel Dune miniseries
Dunc is un fricking watchable. We all sat there in the fricking theater, brand new, and exited to see it. And multiple points we were like, frick me get on with it.
Now, take that feeling, remove any sensation of wonder and novelty from it being the first time you see it. Then imagine sitting down and watching these movies over a weekend, add a theoretical 3rd movie that finishes it off.
Are you in total and complete hell. You fricking bet you are. Now do it again 3 times. Man made horrors beyond human comprehension.
Or you can go watch 84 for the 20th time, and enjoy the frick out of it like always.
Dune 84 wins by miles and hindsight will reveal this too all deniers.
Frick yes.
I think the most disappointing aspect of the DUNC adaptation is the erasure of the material aspects of the story
The spice doesn't have as much meaning or purpose and the guild is an afterthought
CHOAM and the Landsraad are utterly absent and not factors within the story
Each iteration (barring the scifi channel show) completely erases the feudal and oligarchic conditions put forth in the novel
And it reduces the idea of religious hope and the material basis of the fremen's trust/fanatacism in Paul to MERE religious dogmatism
It's a literal marvelization of the story and setting and aside from individual scenes it fricking sucks
The only thing I can really say is positive is that it's almost objectively better than most other large budget american productions right now
I want to blind Greg Frasier and dump him in a forest though, that man is possibly the worst cinematographer in scifi today and Villenueve should've stuck with Deakins
The worst thing about dunc is it has absolutely no soul. It's sterile, empty, materialist, the polar opposite of what the novel is all about.
These two are on their way to burning man, not galactic jihad
>These two are on their way to burning
The fire rises, brother
80s.
Zendaya ruins the new ones. They are impressive in effects, atmosphere, and most of the other actors are good. But she is just awful and her part sours the whole experience.
Nothing in the 80s one left me with that disappointed and exasperating feeling. And I liked the aesthetic more of the 80s one. Also, the absence of the Navigator was a let down.
80s.
The Riddick movies have better set design for a desert planet.
False dichotomy. The SyFy mini is superior.
bottom one
Lynch. And it isn't even close. Denis really let me down.
DUNC forever
Okay listen Al Gayeev
Westwood RTS games > SyFy Dune > Jodorowsky Dune > Lynch Dune = Denis Dune
Behind The Dune > Westwood RTS Games > SyFy Dune > Jodorowsky Dune > Lynch Dune = DUNC
>Jodorowsky Dune
Jodorowsky Dune isn't actually a thing that exists, anon.
Take it up with the post I corrected, wasted water.
Just watch the 1984 scene when they first go into the desert in an ornithopter and tell me DUNC is better I dare you. Brian Eno’s theme is a masterpiece and the debate between the 1984 Dune and DUNC is the most perfect example of Soul vs Soulless
The scene where they first go into the desert in an ornithopter is better in Dunc because it's not laughably bad looking.
Soulless pleb
Tell me youre a dickless zoomer without telling me
Delete your post again, you missed the apostrophe in "youre"
>looking shitty and low budget is LE SOUL
i think they're both shit
The SciFi Channel version is the only good one.
Here
DUNC is cute but can you HEAR any of the scenes?
*moronic guitar riff*
Lunch was a hack.
This movie is unironically fricking awful and anyone stating otherwise is a pathetic homosexual.
You don't have to like dunc, but pretending like the 80s movie is anything but unmitigated garbage is preposterous. They fly through the second half of the book in a single goddamn scene and turn the voice into a projectile. Its fricking stupid and ugly as shit. The internal monologues are fricking hilariously awkward and bad.
Look at this shit. Look at this horrid garbage of a visual effect cluttering the scene and choreography.
This movie is barely watchable.
Anyone that unironically prefers this movie has got to be pushing 50 and has nostalgia from childhood or some other moronation. The rest of you are contrarian Black personhomosexuals just shitting on current year Hollywood schlock.
I wish I beat you to death with a spade just for have to sift through your stupid opinions.
Cool it, idubbbz
It's absolutely bizarre to me that people will get autistic about DUNC changing Alia or cutting the timeskip for not being book accurate, but then dickride the Lynch movies despite Lynch having no interest in being faithful to the book at all
>Lynch having no interest in being faithful to the book at all
This is complete bullshit.
Every single change from the book (and all of those were minor) was greenlit by Frank Herbert himself.
Frank Herbert was likely just happy to be getting paid
You're confusing him with his son, Brian Herbert. Who, by the way, was involved in the production and writing process for DUNC (1&2) and called them the "best adapatation". That should make you think.
well it's convenient that Frank is dead and can't offer an opinion on DUNC so you can just live in whatever delusions you want that the version with voice guns, milking cats, and completely speedruns the 2nd half of the book is the more "faithful" adaptation somehow, and I'm sure your reasoning has something to do with Chani being played by a white actress
>it's convenient that Frank is dead and can't offer an opinion on DUNC
He already gave his opinion on Lynch's Dune. That's more than sufficient to tell what he'd have thought of the antithesis of it.
Again, you're agreeing with Brian Herbert here.
>voice guns
Explicitely greenlit by Herbert, because desert Kung Fu would have looked ridiculous. Which Villeneuve has now proved.
>milking cats
I fail to see the problem here.
>completely speedruns the 2nd half of the book
Yes, we all know that it was ruined in the edit. Which is what Lynch has a massive problem with as well.
Yet, it was still able to give a better and more accurate presentation of that part of the story than DUNC2 did, hillariously.
>because desert Kung Fu would have looked ridiculous. Which Villeneuve has now proved.
Literally anyone who thinks the voice guns are superior to the desert kung fu of DUNC is not arguing in good faith, sorry that the movie you watched as a toddler while your dad beat your was surpassed
>Literally anyone who thinks the voice guns are superior to the desert kung fu of DUNC is not arguing in good faith
Yeah, I guess Frank Herbert really was arguing in bad faith. What does he know about Dune anyway?
that scene looks silly but you're going to argue that the Fremen doing CQC during the Harvester attack wasn't cool? You're going to argue that the anemic Paul vs. Feyd of 84 is better than that one in DUNC2?
>wasn't cool
No, redditor, it wasn't "cool".
>anemic Paul
Wut?
>better than that one in DUNC2?
Yes, because Lynch actually knew how to shoot a scene from more than one angle.
>le r*dditor xD
You have no opinions of your own, you just believe in the opposite of whatever perceived boogeyman exists in your head
Please have sex
i le reddit spaced this post just for you big guy
>You have no opinions of your own
Funny, coming from a redditor, in the process of shilling "muh newest big blockbuster thing" (or what you take for it).
They dick ride it because of the videogames.
You can keep both of them. However, I am pleased that this more or less signals the end of Villeneuve.
Lynch. End of. No discussion. If you dare to even think otherwise, please commit suicide. I mean it. Commit suicide for you are not worthy of the gift of life since you are not human able to feel the soul of the art that you witness.
i am a contrarian loser so im going to pick the old one
>Choose your Dune movie
I prefer the film, actually.
this scene filtered me
The idea of personal shield made of prisms was interesting, but the technology to portray it wasn't there yet. It works for the fortress walls later on, tho
>showing mittchani instead of Paul saluting the Fremen before the final attack in DUNC
Dishonest trolling.
>instead of Paul saluting the Fremen before the final attack
You mean
?
A shot that is 80% low-quality CGI and doesn't even try to add depth to the background?
You really think this compares favourably?
old one was fricking dogshit but I'll pretend I prefer it cos I'm a contrarian fricking gay
>is that the latest bone chilling, old = good, SOVL casting a 30 year old as a teenager, rain dabbing on the shai halud kino disavowed by its own director kino?
Funny how you need to alter a scene from Lynch's Dune to ridicule it, whereas every single webm from DUNC is posted unaltered in here and way more ridiculous.
I don't have to alter anything, pic very much related
can't get any more ridiculous than this
>pic very much related
Not really. What's your problem with it?
it's extremely ridiculous, literal cartoon tier reaction to poison. show that scene to 10 people and 9 of them will laugh at it
if DUNC had a scene executed in the same exact way you'd make fun of it non stop
>t. actually thinks that the Harkonnens are very dry and very serious and very down to earth characters
No wonder you loved the completely unemotive and sterile depiction in DUNC.
Reminder that posts that invoke outside sites are always migrants from them, and ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>posts that invoke outside sites
>literally posts a twitter meme
Maybe you should go back there to get more then?
>literally posts a twitter meme
Filename my man I haven't been on any social media everything on my hard drives is from Cinemaphile or e621/paheel/rule34. Occassional things from LL and Nexus. But you seem to know the sources of things so keep going back so you can post topic-related memes in Cinemaphile threads so I can repost them, because Cinemaphile is an image board so it's always best to post images with your shit opinions.
Soijack avatar posters all need to be gassed.