>It was revenge for Blasphemy and a lot of other things. >And that's that. There was nothing we could do about it. >Herod was a king and Yeshua wasn't. >We had to sit still and take it. >It was among the Hebrews. It was real israeliteball shit.
It really doesn't look good for your ideology that 12-year-olds can see through its logic as soon as they develop independent thought. This is the weirdest christian apologetics.
>dude read Aquinas
I have, the Bible is still Hebrew mythology.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Five minutes and then stopping because it gave you a headache doesn't mean you read it.
What's an example of 'serious theology'? From what I understand, the only piece of literature I should need to read is the Bible to understand that Jesus is Lord, etc.
>From what I understand
Stop listening to protestants.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Give me an example, christcuck. I read all the time and I'm happy to read some shit that I fundamentally have no attachment to.
11 months ago
Anonymous
etienne gilson being and some philosophers
pascal pensees
piers plowman
leibniz monadology
confessions augsutine
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'll pick one of these up at the library next week. Can you explain to me why the so called word of god, bastardized through multiple translations as it may be, is not in itself sufficient?
11 months ago
Anonymous
when did I say that? and >woah ancient texts were transmitted differently
isn’t an own to anyone who knows shit about historiography. you can doubt 99% of human history being this facile
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not doubting it due to the mistranslations, I'm asking that in spite of translations, why isn't the Bible the only thing that's necessary?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>why isn't the Bible the only thing that's necessary
Why would it be? It's not that Christians claim the book fell straight from Heaven, like muslims do.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fair enough, I have a feeling that I wont be swayed by these authors, but thanks for giving me something.
11 months ago
Anonymous
because most people are too dumb to properly interpretent it
11 months ago
Anonymous
Herbert McCabe
11 months ago
Anonymous
christianity is a judean superstition and no amount of european effort can change the rotten core. its like building a beautiful building on a disgusting swamp
11 months ago
Anonymous
right so all european architecture and literature and art for like the past 1800 years needs to be destroyed. how trad and based
11 months ago
Anonymous
So what is truth?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Atheism.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nihilism then? Of which the logical conclusion is?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nihilism =/= Atheism. Nihilism is closer to Absurdism that any religious ideology. Modern Atheism is near exclusively just a refutation of Modern Christianity
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, that's just cope. At the end of the day you're a coward, not commiting to anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm committing to us being evolved apes on a rock in space, when we die we mix with the dirt. I'm fully committed to this
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm fully committed to this
There's no meaning in there. That's nothing. You are commited to nothing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong man, I'm committed to the fact that we're fundamentally nothing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So nihilism.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Of which the logical conclusion is?
11 months ago
Anonymous
So nihilism.
Brothers, I'm saying that 'we' as a species of apes on the planet earth, are nothing. Life itself can have immense personal meaning and I think it's up to the individual to define that. If that meaning is following a doctrine or having faith in a higher power than that's great. I'm not a nihilist, or an atheist, I think the closest descriptor I'd accept is agnostic, but I don't adhere to that or allow it to define my experiences. I think that we've all been given a very beautiful opportunity to experience life, which above all is the thing I cherish. If I'm wrong, and I end up in Hell, than I guess I just have to deal with that, but I will not live my life in any sort of permanent cope preparing myself for an afterlife that's ultimately based on faith.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know, man, you don't seem to be bad faith, so why not look into it more? Explore Catholicism. You can easily start with something like Introduction to Christianity (Lewis) or Orthodoxy (Chesteron).
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm going to take a read, I really don't think I'm going to be swayed to joining any single sect, but I'm certainly open to finding a sort of personal relationship with God
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Introduction to Christianity (Lewis)
Mere Christianity. My bad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
explain his distinction between universals and particulars in the intellect right now then if you’ve read him
What's an example of 'serious theology'? From what I understand, the only piece of literature I should need to read is the Bible to understand that Jesus is Lord, etc.
Are you not a slave? A slave to your lack of intellect, to your urges, a slave to your dying flesh?
11 months ago
Anonymous
a literal slave...it is infantile morality, the morality of a child that expects to have unconditional support and praise for doing nothing "wrong", such as:
the baby didn't hurt anyone, therefore it must be cared for by society etc etc.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ayo, Neetch. Why don't you go catch Syphilis and go rot somewhere?
Animals literally can auto abort if conditions aren't right for their young to develop. That's literally all that's happening. If we lived in a world of hope and opportunity and everybody had access to housing and a positive life then abortion would plummet.
>Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in not accepting the lord and savior. I have been a israelite and I have been God's prophet. And I choose God's prophet every frickin' time. Because, at least as God's prophet, when I have to face my problems, I show up on a crucifix, wearing a crown of thorns and a spear in my rib.
Scorsese already made a Christian film in the time of the current zeitgeist and that did not apply at all so no you’re not observing objective reality.
And I'm sure you'd be ex communicated if you told any church congregation about your opinion on Black folk and israelites.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The black churches would be cool with it
11 months ago
Anonymous
You think?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>a telegram channel
homie, go to church.
11 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
https://t.me/classicaltheist/141
No one cares about your edgy alt-tech sedevacantist "BASED(tm)" fake appropriation of Catholicism homosexual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He's not sedevacantist or anything edgy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>JEWS SHOULD BE BARRED FROM OFFICE because of an out of context excerpt from this centuries old Spanish bull
That's pretty fricking edgy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
look at the world today, israelites shouldn't be allowed anywhere near any sort of administrative position.
11 months ago
Anonymous
israeli deicide is real, the second vatican are heretics
11 months ago
Anonymous
The entire basis of your religion depends on deicide. It was literally the israelites killing Christ that redeemer mankind from sin and gave you salvation. How do you reconcile with this? Jesus'execution was the single greatest thing to ever happen.
11 months ago
Anonymous
very israeli response
11 months ago
Anonymous
Very israeli deflection.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You think?
https://t.me/classicaltheist/141
11 months ago
Anonymous
Again, go to church with real life christians. Protip: your tithes are being used to fund a mission to Africa.
Is it going to be intentionally blasphemous like The Last Temptation?
Reminder that Scorsese has identified himself as a shabbos goy and is proud of it.
Why? Venerating the self-appointed administrators of a religion is something even the most deeply devout people shouldn't accept. Christ is king, the Pope is just the appointed president of his fan club. He doesn't automatically deserve respect just because he's the pope.
I don't understand how anyone can believe that god and religion are real. Science completely destroyed the Biblical narrative.
People who think that science doesn't contradict fate are just delusional.
the guy who lead the human genome project is christian. it just sort of comes across as you being more low IQ than the people you call delusional when you literally do not have the powers of abstraction available to understand that human beings experience reality differently. the existence of transcendent realities was self evident to people for 99% of human history and still is for most even today. yet you’re happy to judge them all because you personally don’t get it
11 months ago
Anonymous
Peter wasn't the Roman Catholic pope
Who do you think compiled the Bible, you absolute fool?
The original bible was compiled by israelites. I don't care about the fanfictions that came after
11 months ago
Anonymous
You need to grow up. Protestantism (as the name implies) is for bratty children throwing a fit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>muh team sports
I'm not LARPing 17th century culture war in which both "sides" are moronic revisionist homosexuals like you. Like I said, I don't care about fanfictions that came after the original bible.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, yeah. You're above it all. Until you're deep under getting barbecued.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why would man-made fanfictions invented centuries after the bible change what counts as sins? The bible already told us what sins are. Everything else is state propaganda for useful idiots
11 months ago
Anonymous
You literally just don't have any clue what you're talking about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the guy who lead the human genome project is christian
Who?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Francis collins
11 months ago
Anonymous
He's just delusional. Evolution contradicts the very fundaments of Christianity.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Evolution contradicts very fundaments of Christianity
No, it doesn't. You have no clue what you're talking about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Of course it does. Survival of the fittest, death, mass extinctions are facts. And if Garden Eden wasn't real then the fall also wasn't real, which means that god created humans with sin and created a terrible world full of suffering from the beginning.
Meanwhile Christians claim he's a loving father. Well, he's obviously not if you accept that evolution is real.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you gonna fit here and tell me that God making man from clay and woman from man's rib is actually some esoteric big-brained occult metaphor and not an origin myth?
don’t you literally think life somehow spontaneously developed from inanimate matter?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Molecules coming together and creating protein bonds have literally been observed. That's not even relevant to the point of how Christians reconcile evolution with The Bible's account of creation.
11 months ago
Anonymous
abiogenesis has never been recreated you cope artist
11 months ago
Anonymous
I agree that it doesn't but it does bring forth really hard to questions to more fundamentalist/literalist views.
11 months ago
Anonymous
if anyone who disagrees with you, even if they have specialised knowledge you don’t, is delusional, that just means you are incredibly closed minded and not as inquisitive or scrutinising as you believe yourself to be. rationes seminales has been part of christian (and pagan) discussion for literal millennia and accommodates itself to evolution just fine
11 months ago
Anonymous
Christians can't even explain why god created predators.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Worse yet they think that animals were vegetarians before the flood. Predation wasn't even a result of the fall.
11 months ago
Anonymous
what the frick does this have to do with my post?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You confronted him with the fact that one of the most specialised biologists in the world is a christian and also provided philosophical precedence for the idea of evolution going back centuries. Neither of these notions fit his existing stock of reddit gotchas so he just pivoted to one. Midwits can’t respond to novel arguments because they lack original thought, it’s just rote memorisation of various strawmen.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Muh evolution
You mean that horseshut that explains nothing, was invented by israelites (look it up) and has associations with Sigmund Freud (israelite). You know nothing about what you think you know about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Noah takes 7 of each "kind" of animal into the Ark
How do you get all the different species moron? Christians have to accept evolution too, just a way more moronic time scale where you're getting 40 new types of animals every fricking day.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>omnipotent being >knows the past, present, and future >creates innocent life >somehow permits a sinful lying Angel to just walk around a sinless sacred innocent new creation >shocked when its innocent creatures fall for an ancient evil's professional lies >punishes its new creation for falling to the trickery of an ancient expert evil to eternal suffering, and so are their children punished, and the rest of humanity because "original sin" nonsense but somehow Satan was tolerated >ops, I forgot how the israelite-God loves to play with its faithful by allowing Satan to harm them in every way possible so long as he doesn't kill him (look up the story of Job) because it makes him feel good that they're still 100% faithful despite all the abuse, and yet somehow God is all loving...
11 months ago
Anonymous
>allowing Satan to harm them in every way possible so long as he doesn't kill him (look up the story of Job)
A lot of Job's family was murdered by Satan just to frick with Job
11 months ago
Anonymous
Worse yet, god has the audacity to replace them with new children, as if that fixes anything...
11 months ago
Anonymous
Peter was not a pope. Read Acts. You’ve been a damn fool up to this point in your life, but trust in Jesus and the Bible was the word of God.
Lol, the Prot vs Cath war will never cease to entertain me. "I worship this israelite HARDER than you!!"
Go back to your white roots while you still can
every single time someone tells me to go back to my white roots they’re an amerimutt who is hardly white and certainly not european. my christian ancestors are people like shakespeare, bede, and charlemagne. i’ll take them over the little boy rapers
Reminder that the most Christian thing you can do is become an atheist because the West became secular.
11 months ago
Anonymous
remember the most atheist thing you can do is become a gay childless troony since atheists became gay childless trannies
11 months ago
Anonymous
As long as you see what blithering moronation your original point was. >actually if you're so trad you should be a feminist because your great-grandfathers gave women rights
11 months ago
Anonymous
it goes both ways. if the modern world is to blame on christians (which has always been a gigantic cope when you view the pozz to secularism ratio) then the christian world is to blame on pagans, and the pagan world is to blame on animists or whatever. at some point you have to accept that beliefs and ideologies that emerge in reaction to other ones aren’t codependent or mutually inclusive
11 months ago
Anonymous
>trad
Trad is largely a meme. It needs to be about being right (Catholic), not about following false traditions.
God, what a stupid ass drawing. This is the white mans version of those corny Native American shirts that only come in size XXL and above with the three wolves on it.
>founded transparently because of politics >completely disregards the Church Fathers >completely disregards the sacraments themselves >80 million denominations that can't agree on anything >produces nothing but tacky shit like megachurches and God's Not Dead >they are still weirdly belligerent against Catholics and Orthodox and larp about how they are the only real Christians
Protestantism is so tiresome.
We're talking the guy who made a movie that denies the divinity and sinlessness of Jesus and another one where the message was "apostasy is no biggie bro". I wouldn't get my hopes up. Now PoTC 2 on the other hand...
I don't understand how anyone can believe that god and religion are real. Science completely destroyed the Biblical narrative.
People who think that science doesn't contradict fate are just delusional.
no, frick off. he’s one of those jungian atheists and he’s what varg is to pagans, ie, not pagan. why the frick go to peterson when you’ve had aquinas and augsutine for centuries? even fricking CS lewis is better than peterstein
It doesn't matter. It's nothing more than cope. It's much easier to explain the world without a loving god.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's much easier
And somehow it's a good thing being a lazy slob?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's better to listen to hours of meaningless philosophical cope.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yes people who read philosophy and educate themselves about it are usually way more coherent and erudite thinkers, so it is better to do that. even gaytheist philosophers spend hours and hours reading the pagan and christian ones because they all have valuable things to say
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, but like painting and writing and whatever are also copes. Copes actually produce the greatest artistic and philosophical kino that man has ever created. So stop seething about it
It really doesn't look good for your ideology that 12-year-olds can see through its logic as soon as they develop independent thought. This is the weirdest christian apologetics.
>12 year olds are da smartest peeple in da worlds
Man, you are a moron
Animals literally can auto abort if conditions aren't right for their young to develop. That's literally all that's happening. If we lived in a world of hope and opportunity and everybody had access to housing and a positive life then abortion would plummet.
>literally >literally
You argue like a midwit gay
Christianity is bullshit but the bible does NOT support easy believism or even perseverence of the saints.
>if you chop your dick off you're a woman >if you dont kneel before blacks 24/7 you are racist >we're 3 more lockdowns and 20 vaccine boosters away from ending the pandemic
believe in science chud
Your brain has been fried by memes in an autistic culture war. You're not actually religious, you're just a contrarian lashing out just like fedora edgelords were doing a decade ago.
He can be religious and still righteously pissed off at how gay and stupid the world has gotten. So, quiet your mouth about things you know nothing about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If your response to the natural sciences contradicting the Bible is to rant about Black folk, you are 100% a reactionary moron.
Syrian government shills have been posting on /misc/ since /new/, long before the Syrian Civil War.
But that's a Palestinian flag, to show his allegiance with murderers, akin to his desire to abort babies.
>Syrian government shills >/new/
We got a genuine out of touch boomer. I'm guessing you still believe that Russian shills hacked the 2016 election too?
for muslins more than once.
FOR THE LAST FRICKING TIME THEY WERE NOT MUSLIM YOU FRICKING RABBI THEY WERE CHRSTIANS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST WHO FLEE THE WAR YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBFRICK RAGGING WAR WITH YOUR FUNNY GREEN QUOTATIONS I HOPE YOU FRICKING DIE IN YOUR SLEEP YOU DUMBFRICK INBRED POSTER
I look forward to his new film. And it's funny to me that we got to the point that someone being publically religious is how I can tell they're based or not
this is literally what they say about atheists. so at best you’re equivalent to them. also, Cinemaphile always fricking sucked and anyone intelligent discusses religion, philosophy and history on Cinemaphile
Martin: >Your Holiness, forgive me for I have sinned. I decided to open my Bible and read it on my own. I don't understand what Jesus meant by: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Pope: >Yes my child there are countless mysteries in the Bible. You were foolish to open it instead of reading 50 commentaries about this highly debated passage. Even now this passage perplexes me.
Martin: >Surely, Jesus isn't telling his followers that the only way to heaven is through him?
Pope: >Indeed, you may be right.
it's honestly bizarre seeing people on this site have the same moronic debates about religion that you'd see here 10+ years ago
the libertarians have now gone full neo-nazi racist and moderate left leaning people have gone full troony moron socialist but people still have the same low IQ views on religion here
There aren't many new developments when it comes to religion so there's nothing to really discuss other than continually educating younger people who are new to it and don't understand what they're talking about. Politics and culture war shit on the other hand are always topical.
From a Christian point of view, isn't abortion actually a merciful thing?
I'm not even saying this to be an edgy atheist. I'm going off of Christian logic
>abort baby >it automatically goes to heaven
>don't abort baby >odds are, that baby won't be grow up to be christian and will therefore go to hell
>the entire world ending, the wicked, including all the demonic host being damned for eternity, and a new everlasting kingdom being established is just about the Catholic church
>Scorsese doing fantasy now too
How is Tarantino the last director with any pride in the art form that is cinema. I guess making 17 movies where the plot is "a skinny Italian tries to kill a fat italian while this other Italian kills a different italian" drove him to traditional capshit. This medium is dead
Scorsese has to keep "exploring" spirituality + faith, cos he's so preoccupied with CRAFT. He is superb, even "supreme". But spiritual matters are BEYOND technique. He also doesn't ask questions everyone wants to seek answers for. He's a confused lil man.
Dreyer, Bresson, Bergman, Kurosawa's illusion vs. the real, Tarkovsky, even Hitchwiener/Clift + Ford/Fonda in Mexico...Do we really "learn" anything new/more from Marty?
dead jobber
>the pope
>It was revenge for Blasphemy and a lot of other things.
>And that's that. There was nothing we could do about it.
>Herod was a king and Yeshua wasn't.
>We had to sit still and take it.
>It was among the Hebrews. It was real israeliteball shit.
the baby didn't hurt anyone
but it will
slave moralism
Nice buzzword, midwit.
those are two words
>a word or phrase, often an item of jargon
not him but without looking the word up I can understand it's meaning
you are a slave to your morals despite it not being in your best interests
>your best interests
Which are?
You've never read serious theology, otherwise
*otherwise you wouldn't make such braindead claims.
>dude read Aquinas
I have, the Bible is still Hebrew mythology.
Five minutes and then stopping because it gave you a headache doesn't mean you read it.
>From what I understand
Stop listening to protestants.
Give me an example, christcuck. I read all the time and I'm happy to read some shit that I fundamentally have no attachment to.
etienne gilson being and some philosophers
pascal pensees
piers plowman
leibniz monadology
confessions augsutine
I'll pick one of these up at the library next week. Can you explain to me why the so called word of god, bastardized through multiple translations as it may be, is not in itself sufficient?
when did I say that? and
>woah ancient texts were transmitted differently
isn’t an own to anyone who knows shit about historiography. you can doubt 99% of human history being this facile
I'm not doubting it due to the mistranslations, I'm asking that in spite of translations, why isn't the Bible the only thing that's necessary?
>why isn't the Bible the only thing that's necessary
Why would it be? It's not that Christians claim the book fell straight from Heaven, like muslims do.
Fair enough, I have a feeling that I wont be swayed by these authors, but thanks for giving me something.
because most people are too dumb to properly interpretent it
Herbert McCabe
christianity is a judean superstition and no amount of european effort can change the rotten core. its like building a beautiful building on a disgusting swamp
right so all european architecture and literature and art for like the past 1800 years needs to be destroyed. how trad and based
So what is truth?
Atheism.
Nihilism then? Of which the logical conclusion is?
Nihilism =/= Atheism. Nihilism is closer to Absurdism that any religious ideology. Modern Atheism is near exclusively just a refutation of Modern Christianity
Nah, that's just cope. At the end of the day you're a coward, not commiting to anything.
I'm committing to us being evolved apes on a rock in space, when we die we mix with the dirt. I'm fully committed to this
>I'm fully committed to this
There's no meaning in there. That's nothing. You are commited to nothing.
Wrong man, I'm committed to the fact that we're fundamentally nothing.
So nihilism.
Of which the logical conclusion is?
Brothers, I'm saying that 'we' as a species of apes on the planet earth, are nothing. Life itself can have immense personal meaning and I think it's up to the individual to define that. If that meaning is following a doctrine or having faith in a higher power than that's great. I'm not a nihilist, or an atheist, I think the closest descriptor I'd accept is agnostic, but I don't adhere to that or allow it to define my experiences. I think that we've all been given a very beautiful opportunity to experience life, which above all is the thing I cherish. If I'm wrong, and I end up in Hell, than I guess I just have to deal with that, but I will not live my life in any sort of permanent cope preparing myself for an afterlife that's ultimately based on faith.
I don't know, man, you don't seem to be bad faith, so why not look into it more? Explore Catholicism. You can easily start with something like Introduction to Christianity (Lewis) or Orthodoxy (Chesteron).
I'm going to take a read, I really don't think I'm going to be swayed to joining any single sect, but I'm certainly open to finding a sort of personal relationship with God
>Introduction to Christianity (Lewis)
Mere Christianity. My bad.
explain his distinction between universals and particulars in the intellect right now then if you’ve read him
What's an example of 'serious theology'? From what I understand, the only piece of literature I should need to read is the Bible to understand that Jesus is Lord, etc.
>despite it not being in your best interests
We'll see if you still feel that way when you're burning in hell.
no, it's morality of a slave.
Are you not a slave? A slave to your lack of intellect, to your urges, a slave to your dying flesh?
a literal slave...it is infantile morality, the morality of a child that expects to have unconditional support and praise for doing nothing "wrong", such as:
the baby didn't hurt anyone, therefore it must be cared for by society etc etc.
Ayo, Neetch. Why don't you go catch Syphilis and go rot somewhere?
The baby won't ever exist after I punch the b***h in the stomach a bit.
What if it was black?
Cuck mentality
a rape baby is a product of an unholy union of violence and shame and is an abomination.
this is perfectly put
According to?
it literally hurts you just by existing, a constant reminder of how you got cucked, if I was that baby I'd want to be aborted
Animals literally can auto abort if conditions aren't right for their young to develop. That's literally all that's happening. If we lived in a world of hope and opportunity and everybody had access to housing and a positive life then abortion would plummet.
A positive life is a life without Black folk and spics, I eagerly await your homosexual counterpoint
>"As far back as I can remember, I wanted to be be the messiah." (cue Rolling Stones Sympathy For The Devil)
>Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in not accepting the lord and savior. I have been a israelite and I have been God's prophet. And I choose God's prophet every frickin' time. Because, at least as God's prophet, when I have to face my problems, I show up on a crucifix, wearing a crown of thorns and a spear in my rib.
>film about Jesus in 2024
They're gonna turn him into a black woman screaming about reparations
>DUDE WOKE LEFT AMIRITE
You ever get tired of these inane observations?
Being correct can be tiring at times, but it's still not good to lie.
Scorsese already made a Christian film in the time of the current zeitgeist and that did not apply at all so no you’re not observing objective reality.
They are pushing it not me
You're literally on a website with a multiple gay porn communities.
I am sure you are instantly banned if you post some bible verses
And I'm sure you'd be ex communicated if you told any church congregation about your opinion on Black folk and israelites.
The black churches would be cool with it
You think?
>a telegram channel
homie, go to church.
No one cares about your edgy alt-tech sedevacantist "BASED(tm)" fake appropriation of Catholicism homosexual.
He's not sedevacantist or anything edgy.
>JEWS SHOULD BE BARRED FROM OFFICE because of an out of context excerpt from this centuries old Spanish bull
That's pretty fricking edgy.
look at the world today, israelites shouldn't be allowed anywhere near any sort of administrative position.
israeli deicide is real, the second vatican are heretics
The entire basis of your religion depends on deicide. It was literally the israelites killing Christ that redeemer mankind from sin and gave you salvation. How do you reconcile with this? Jesus'execution was the single greatest thing to ever happen.
very israeli response
Very israeli deflection.
https://t.me/classicaltheist/141
Again, go to church with real life christians. Protip: your tithes are being used to fund a mission to Africa.
The lack of capitalizations is telling.
>it doesn't exist
>but it's a good thing
>Announces film about jesus
Didn't he already make that?
No please
Why doesn't God stop evil?
I wish scorsese just dies before he can make another movie shitting on Christianity.
He already did a film about Jesus.
There is always a place for yet another Our Lord and Savior-kino
>Waits until he's 80 to make another movie about Jesus so he doesn't have to listen to the kvetching for too long
Based
Is it going to be intentionally blasphemous like The Last Temptation?
Reminder that Scorsese has identified himself as a shabbos goy and is proud of it.
>CHRIST IS KING!
Why did this particular expression become associated with incels/the alt-shite?
What happened to Deus Vult?
>alt-shite
It's America First shit.
Deus Vult is a cringe attempt at making your own Allah Snackbar.
Christ is King is better because unlike the other this one isn't violent.
scorsese is one of the most overrated hacks in hollywood, his entire career is really just glorifying sociopath israelites and italian criminals
Amen brutha.
Black trans jebus when?
>he can’t be the fricking king of the israelites! I am! Off with his fricking head!
Bryson is so so (protty) but he's right on this one.
Is it gonna be blasphemous trash again?
im sure they agreed about alot of things such as
>christ is kang!!
>frick white people
https://decentfilms.com/articles/lasttemptation
>hollywood pedo met with catholic pedo to make movie about Jesus
Unholy shit.
Come on. I don't like Scorcese one bit but at least show some respect toward the Pope.
Why? Venerating the self-appointed administrators of a religion is something even the most deeply devout people shouldn't accept. Christ is king, the Pope is just the appointed president of his fan club. He doesn't automatically deserve respect just because he's the pope.
You'll have to repent or burn for those posts.
How come you proclaim to be adults posting here, yet can't into basic hierarchy?
Disrespecting the pope is not a sin. The pope is not in the bible dumbass.
I don't care about your protty heresy.
Cool well I'll stay adhering to the bible, not shit (You) made up. Thanks
Who do you think compiled the Bible, you absolute fool?
https://www.gotquestions.org/catholicism.html
>bratty child can't into hierarchy
Yeah, totally not a Pride problem.
Truly you are a fool.
Noticed your phone autocorrected “pride” as “Pride”. I take it your excited to celebrate Pride month at your gay little popey club?
I capitalized it because it's a Capital Sin.
You capitalized it because you are a gay queer, and likely a nonce like your Popey
please show me a single verse that uses your terminology
>muh sola scriptura
More like sola brain cell.
But peter was in the bible
the guy who lead the human genome project is christian. it just sort of comes across as you being more low IQ than the people you call delusional when you literally do not have the powers of abstraction available to understand that human beings experience reality differently. the existence of transcendent realities was self evident to people for 99% of human history and still is for most even today. yet you’re happy to judge them all because you personally don’t get it
Peter wasn't the Roman Catholic pope
The original bible was compiled by israelites. I don't care about the fanfictions that came after
You need to grow up. Protestantism (as the name implies) is for bratty children throwing a fit.
>muh team sports
I'm not LARPing 17th century culture war in which both "sides" are moronic revisionist homosexuals like you. Like I said, I don't care about fanfictions that came after the original bible.
Yeah, yeah. You're above it all. Until you're deep under getting barbecued.
Why would man-made fanfictions invented centuries after the bible change what counts as sins? The bible already told us what sins are. Everything else is state propaganda for useful idiots
You literally just don't have any clue what you're talking about.
>the guy who lead the human genome project is christian
Who?
Francis collins
He's just delusional. Evolution contradicts the very fundaments of Christianity.
>Evolution contradicts very fundaments of Christianity
No, it doesn't. You have no clue what you're talking about.
Of course it does. Survival of the fittest, death, mass extinctions are facts. And if Garden Eden wasn't real then the fall also wasn't real, which means that god created humans with sin and created a terrible world full of suffering from the beginning.
Meanwhile Christians claim he's a loving father. Well, he's obviously not if you accept that evolution is real.
Are you gonna fit here and tell me that God making man from clay and woman from man's rib is actually some esoteric big-brained occult metaphor and not an origin myth?
https://www.catholic.com/tract/adam-eve-and-evolution
don’t you literally think life somehow spontaneously developed from inanimate matter?
Molecules coming together and creating protein bonds have literally been observed. That's not even relevant to the point of how Christians reconcile evolution with The Bible's account of creation.
abiogenesis has never been recreated you cope artist
I agree that it doesn't but it does bring forth really hard to questions to more fundamentalist/literalist views.
if anyone who disagrees with you, even if they have specialised knowledge you don’t, is delusional, that just means you are incredibly closed minded and not as inquisitive or scrutinising as you believe yourself to be. rationes seminales has been part of christian (and pagan) discussion for literal millennia and accommodates itself to evolution just fine
Christians can't even explain why god created predators.
Worse yet they think that animals were vegetarians before the flood. Predation wasn't even a result of the fall.
what the frick does this have to do with my post?
You confronted him with the fact that one of the most specialised biologists in the world is a christian and also provided philosophical precedence for the idea of evolution going back centuries. Neither of these notions fit his existing stock of reddit gotchas so he just pivoted to one. Midwits can’t respond to novel arguments because they lack original thought, it’s just rote memorisation of various strawmen.
>Muh evolution
You mean that horseshut that explains nothing, was invented by israelites (look it up) and has associations with Sigmund Freud (israelite). You know nothing about what you think you know about.
>Noah takes 7 of each "kind" of animal into the Ark
How do you get all the different species moron? Christians have to accept evolution too, just a way more moronic time scale where you're getting 40 new types of animals every fricking day.
>omnipotent being
>knows the past, present, and future
>creates innocent life
>somehow permits a sinful lying Angel to just walk around a sinless sacred innocent new creation
>shocked when its innocent creatures fall for an ancient evil's professional lies
>punishes its new creation for falling to the trickery of an ancient expert evil to eternal suffering, and so are their children punished, and the rest of humanity because "original sin" nonsense but somehow Satan was tolerated
>ops, I forgot how the israelite-God loves to play with its faithful by allowing Satan to harm them in every way possible so long as he doesn't kill him (look up the story of Job) because it makes him feel good that they're still 100% faithful despite all the abuse, and yet somehow God is all loving...
>allowing Satan to harm them in every way possible so long as he doesn't kill him (look up the story of Job)
A lot of Job's family was murdered by Satan just to frick with Job
Worse yet, god has the audacity to replace them with new children, as if that fixes anything...
Peter was not a pope. Read Acts. You’ve been a damn fool up to this point in your life, but trust in Jesus and the Bible was the word of God.
Frick you and your glow pope.
Begone, foul demon, along with your foul demon pope
latinx hands typed this post
south american mutts are all neopagan now, they’re always 5 years behind on the larp meta
100% white. Cope and seethe.
>basic hierarchy
All are equal in the eyes of God.
Equal in a sense of human dignity, not societally. People are smarter, taller, stronger, etc. Can't just dismiss that.
>the Pope.
Francis? Frick that Black person and homosexual loving beaner, he's not the legitimate pope and I hope he burns in hell.
I would push the pope down a flight of stairs. Catholicism is not Christian. Not even a little bit.
Lol, the Prot vs Cath war will never cease to entertain me. "I worship this israelite HARDER than you!!"
Go back to your white roots while you still can
>LARPagan
>perennial
105 IQ and feverishly proud. Brutal.
Truly spoken like someone who lacks a foreskin.
Your Semite lord and his followers thank you for your sacrifice.
My member is uncut.
every single time someone tells me to go back to my white roots they’re an amerimutt who is hardly white and certainly not european. my christian ancestors are people like shakespeare, bede, and charlemagne. i’ll take them over the little boy rapers
Reminder that the most vikang thing you can ever do is convert to Christianity
The weakest vikangs died like shit eating dogs worshipping ~~*Odin*~~ or some stupid shit. We tried to save them but you just can’t win em all.
Reminder that the most Christian thing you can do is become an atheist because the West became secular.
remember the most atheist thing you can do is become a gay childless troony since atheists became gay childless trannies
As long as you see what blithering moronation your original point was.
>actually if you're so trad you should be a feminist because your great-grandfathers gave women rights
it goes both ways. if the modern world is to blame on christians (which has always been a gigantic cope when you view the pozz to secularism ratio) then the christian world is to blame on pagans, and the pagan world is to blame on animists or whatever. at some point you have to accept that beliefs and ideologies that emerge in reaction to other ones aren’t codependent or mutually inclusive
>trad
Trad is largely a meme. It needs to be about being right (Catholic), not about following false traditions.
God, what a stupid ass drawing. This is the white mans version of those corny Native American shirts that only come in size XXL and above with the three wolves on it.
Not even much of a good one. Then again, LARPagans have zero sense for aesthetics.
Repent while you can, pagan.
Go back to the Church Fathers, you mean.
White women frick dogs, and your men get their limbs blown off for Israel, then come back and die from fentanyl. What a sad, cucked race.
Protestantism wouldn't exist if the israelites, dutch and brits weren't so greedy
>founded transparently because of politics
>completely disregards the Church Fathers
>completely disregards the sacraments themselves
>80 million denominations that can't agree on anything
>produces nothing but tacky shit like megachurches and God's Not Dead
>they are still weirdly belligerent against Catholics and Orthodox and larp about how they are the only real Christians
Protestantism is so tiresome.
Jesus would chase your pope out of his golden temple.
didn't he already do that
We're talking the guy who made a movie that denies the divinity and sinlessness of Jesus and another one where the message was "apostasy is no biggie bro". I wouldn't get my hopes up. Now PoTC 2 on the other hand...
>PoTC 2
Confusing situation.
Only took Jesus a few days.
oh is this the part where the “right wing” “””””pagans””””” side with the left again because someone did a heckin belief in God
Spoilers: It's a multiverse movie where Willem Dafoe and the guy from the Gibson movie meet up and fight each other.
Unironically don't understand how there are still religious people in the West in 21st century.
Do you mean religious in the sincere sense, or "religious" in the contrarian anti-gay/tradwife fantasy sense?
The former are generally very well-adjusted.
I'm both
I don't understand how anyone can believe that god and religion are real. Science completely destroyed the Biblical narrative.
People who think that science doesn't contradict fate are just delusional.
Start with Jordan Peterson lectures. It's so obvious once it clicks.
no, frick off. he’s one of those jungian atheists and he’s what varg is to pagans, ie, not pagan. why the frick go to peterson when you’ve had aquinas and augsutine for centuries? even fricking CS lewis is better than peterstein
It doesn't matter. It's nothing more than cope. It's much easier to explain the world without a loving god.
>It's much easier
And somehow it's a good thing being a lazy slob?
Yeah, it's better to listen to hours of meaningless philosophical cope.
yes people who read philosophy and educate themselves about it are usually way more coherent and erudite thinkers, so it is better to do that. even gaytheist philosophers spend hours and hours reading the pagan and christian ones because they all have valuable things to say
Ok, but like painting and writing and whatever are also copes. Copes actually produce the greatest artistic and philosophical kino that man has ever created. So stop seething about it
He's an okay introduction. But yeah, Chesterton and Lewis are good addresses.
>Jude Petersen
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're young, that's all it is
It really doesn't look good for your ideology that 12-year-olds can see through its logic as soon as they develop independent thought. This is the weirdest christian apologetics.
>12 year olds are da smartest peeple in da worlds
Man, you are a moron
>literally
>literally
You argue like a midwit gay
Your mother is bullshit for raising you so poorly
wow rude
>if you chop your dick off you're a woman
>if you dont kneel before blacks 24/7 you are racist
>we're 3 more lockdowns and 20 vaccine boosters away from ending the pandemic
believe in science chud
Your brain has been fried by memes in an autistic culture war. You're not actually religious, you're just a contrarian lashing out just like fedora edgelords were doing a decade ago.
He can be religious and still righteously pissed off at how gay and stupid the world has gotten. So, quiet your mouth about things you know nothing about.
If your response to the natural sciences contradicting the Bible is to rant about Black folk, you are 100% a reactionary moron.
>The former are generally very well-adjusted
Yup.
a lot of it is a reaction to how much of a social failure secularism is
That just means you’re stupid. I wouldn’t brag about being stupid anon…
We can't all be good goys like you anon.
It's basically counter culture, we've gone full circle.
Yes and it will shift back when these religious morons take power again and people remember how psychotic they are.
Do drugs? DEATH
Woman? STONE TO DEATH
VIolence in videogame? BANNED
The key is balance. Reject the leftist israelite commie and the right wing religious zealot
>lolbert in 2023
ngmi
Only people that can't handle the dialogue is protestants (heretics).
That would be awesome if we could wipe out all you waste of space drug users.
>Bateman
>Syrian flag
>gods chosen goiym
Jesus christ /misc/ has gotten so fricking cringe
/misc/ is just shitskin larpers and a few incel hicks
That's a pali flag but other than that yes
don't forget that the average pol user is either 14 because of le based patrick bateman tiktok edits or 40 because of qanon
Syrian government shills have been posting on /misc/ since /new/, long before the Syrian Civil War.
But that's a Palestinian flag, to show his allegiance with murderers, akin to his desire to abort babies.
>Syrian government shills
>/new/
We got a genuine out of touch boomer. I'm guessing you still believe that Russian shills hacked the 2016 election too?
It’s the non-American internet, baby. Time for you guys to accept that ESLs aren’t human.
>ESLs
So like Dutch people who IIRC have the highest IQ among white nations? Lol
If the pope is involved then it is going to suck. That jesuit commie will make the most woke trash.
>The Pope
Oh you mean the the anti-Christ?Top kek
Dude did more damage to Chrstianity than the pedo priests.
>Dude did more damage to Chrstianity
Based on what?
You're just saying this stuff as if it made any sense.
>The nonsense of gray/troony priests spread when he shows up
>Kneel for muslins more than once.
>This bullshit
>gets filtered by Resurrezione
>calls thing nonsense then proceeds talking about it as if it was real
>Brings back art
All counter argument dismissed
for muslins more than once.
FOR THE LAST FRICKING TIME THEY WERE NOT MUSLIM YOU FRICKING RABBI THEY WERE CHRSTIANS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST WHO FLEE THE WAR YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBFRICK RAGGING WAR WITH YOUR FUNNY GREEN QUOTATIONS I HOPE YOU FRICKING DIE IN YOUR SLEEP YOU DUMBFRICK INBRED POSTER
I look forward to his new film. And it's funny to me that we got to the point that someone being publically religious is how I can tell they're based or not
>someone being publically religious
You mean blasphemous in Scorcese's case?
Christian larpers became so obnoxious I started to genuinely dislike Christianity (I was neutral before). They pretty much ruined Cinemaphile.
this is literally what they say about atheists. so at best you’re equivalent to them. also, Cinemaphile always fricking sucked and anyone intelligent discusses religion, philosophy and history on Cinemaphile
new atheists created this new plague of trad caths, its truly a shame.
last temptation of christ had a kino soundtrack
Rather Turkish than Papist
His first flick about Jesus suck arse.
Let's talk about beautiful monsters.
Turn to Jesus Christ while you still have the chance. We live in a fallen world and malevolent forces are mobilizing. Don't risk your soul.
Christianity is bullshit but the bible does NOT support easy believism or even perseverence of the saints.
Martin:
>Your Holiness, forgive me for I have sinned. I decided to open my Bible and read it on my own. I don't understand what Jesus meant by: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Pope:
>Yes my child there are countless mysteries in the Bible. You were foolish to open it instead of reading 50 commentaries about this highly debated passage. Even now this passage perplexes me.
Martin:
>Surely, Jesus isn't telling his followers that the only way to heaven is through him?
Pope:
>Indeed, you may be right.
>muh "christcucks" /misc/gay
>irrelevant twitter screencaps
you are the cancer that's killed this site
unironically have no idea what to do in this situation and would probably blue screen and flee the country
it's honestly bizarre seeing people on this site have the same moronic debates about religion that you'd see here 10+ years ago
the libertarians have now gone full neo-nazi racist and moderate left leaning people have gone full troony moron socialist but people still have the same low IQ views on religion here
There aren't many new developments when it comes to religion so there's nothing to really discuss other than continually educating younger people who are new to it and don't understand what they're talking about. Politics and culture war shit on the other hand are always topical.
dubs and he dies
Yeah right!
The Chosen is already the perfect and most accurate Christ Kino
From a Christian point of view, isn't abortion actually a merciful thing?
I'm not even saying this to be an edgy atheist. I'm going off of Christian logic
>abort baby
>it automatically goes to heaven
>don't abort baby
>odds are, that baby won't be grow up to be christian and will therefore go to hell
Catholicism is not true Christianity. The books Daniel and Revelation in the Bible are about Catholicism.
Your goofy cult is like 500 years old and was founded on the urges of horny men.
Nice cope. Who compiled the bible, by the way?
>the entire world ending, the wicked, including all the demonic host being damned for eternity, and a new everlasting kingdom being established is just about the Catholic church
Protties actually think this way...
Scorcese is a known blasphemer. DDL is israeli as far as I'm aware. What's the point of this clip?
>Scorsese doing fantasy now too
How is Tarantino the last director with any pride in the art form that is cinema. I guess making 17 movies where the plot is "a skinny Italian tries to kill a fat italian while this other Italian kills a different italian" drove him to traditional capshit. This medium is dead
Scorsese has to keep "exploring" spirituality + faith, cos he's so preoccupied with CRAFT. He is superb, even "supreme". But spiritual matters are BEYOND technique. He also doesn't ask questions everyone wants to seek answers for. He's a confused lil man.
Dreyer, Bresson, Bergman, Kurosawa's illusion vs. the real, Tarkovsky, even Hitchwiener/Clift + Ford/Fonda in Mexico...Do we really "learn" anything new/more from Marty?